Multicooker Philips HD3060 / 03 Avance Collection

Thank you, Tanya, I'll try it with water (it's probably true, it's more correct - the heat is more even, and not just the bottom ...) Lena, I'm Shteba, only after 3-5 days will arrive (and in my other cartoons there is no temperature from 30 *). Yogurt, in Filka it comes out wonderful (well, there the pace is needed higher than for sour cream)

Today I was in Scarlet Sails on Begovaya and saw a silicone steamer, very pleasant, but at a very inhumane price. It looks small, but I don’t know if it will fit or not, because I don’t remember the internal dimensions of the Filipka bowl. If it were not for the price, I would have bought it anyway

Lena, the price is almost Filki ...

[petu]

petu, on yogurt I heard the temperature somewhere around 38-39, on sour cream we need 36, but we make sour cream in glasses, so yogurt is better for sour cream than 30 grams.

I am concerned about the question - is it necessary to boil the cream for making sour cream?
To prepare yoghurt, everything is clear: boil pasteurized milk and DO NOT boil ultra ... milk.
And with sour cream? and how does this affect the taste?

[Tanya-Fanya]

Tanya-Fanya, whichever, ultra-pasteurized is not necessary.

whether it is necessary to boil the cream to make sour cream

It seems to me not, because the shelf life of cream in bags is not 5 days, but several months.

[petu]

petu, here are those that do not need to be boiled for several months.

Sedne

That's what I wrote.

[petu]

petu, so I know, I confirmed

I buy cream in soft bags of local production 10% with a shelf life of 7 days. They have a pleasant natural taste.
They make yoghurt like ice cream. But I boil this cream before making yogurt.

The cream mentioned by Olya-Petu has a shelf life of several months, and it is ultra-pasteurized.
Sveta -Sedne says that you can't ultra ...

Oh, I understood, Sveta said that they should not be boiled!

I think it is very important to choose the right starting product.

[Tanya-Fanya]

Tanya-Fanya, those that are stored for 7 days must be boiled, ultra-pasteurized ones do not need to be boiled. Everything is like milk for yogurt

Can you really try the temperature of the yogurt? I just watched a video of sour cream in Maruchi47, and there the temperature on * yogurt * is definitely higher than in Fillet (I have such a cartoon - I compared).

Svetochka, I understand. Thank you!
I remember as a child in the summer at the dacha, I went to visit a cow for milk. The grandmother put the can of milk in the refrigerator and said that we would make sour cream from it :-) After a while, the "tops" were collected with a spoon, and they already pulled out. It was cream. Then (I don't remember how) they made sour cream from them.
And I will make from boiled cream? Okay, whatever you say. We will conduct another experiment on Filka today.
Thank you girls!

The price is stunned! but now everything will continue to rise in price, the rate is growing.

I buy Cream Krasnodar Plant of Children's and Treatment-and-Prophylactic Nutrition No. 1, very tasty and creamy to taste. Shelf life is short, soft package.
I can't insert a photo - the Internet is terribly slow
About the double boiler - it seems to me that it used to be 700 rubles each. It was dear to me too

[Tanya-Fanya]

Tanya-Fanya, the fact is that not boiled cream, I would be afraid to ferment, it is fraught with poisoning, 30-40 grams are loved not only by good bacteria, which ferment, but harmful, and ultra-pasteurization kills everything, everything, that is, there is nothing left there and making what we want and they will multiply.
Previously, they drank fresh milk and did not steamed, and now they do not advise not from a proven cow, which is absolutely kept clean, to drink milk without at least pasteurization.

The girls baked bread from 200 gr. flour 50 minutes and 130C, the top in AG blushed .....)))

Olya, I will make sour cream on "yogurt". I wrote earlier that I compared yogurt made from the same mixture in Filka and Panasonic181. The temperature in Fillet on "yogurt" is supposed to be 40 g. In Panasonic I choose the temperature myself (out of the possible), also 40 grams. So in Fillet, yogurt is more tender and not sour, compared to Panasonic. I tried (felt) the water with my little finger after 6 hours, in Fillet it is warmer than in Panasonic. This game for plus / min a couple of degrees gives a pronounced result.
Therefore, I think that we will get the 35 grams necessary for sour cream in Fillet on "yogurt", taking into account the error and a silicone mat, which will definitely "eat" one degree.

Wish us a successful experience with sour cream

Sveta, did you make sour cream yourself? How many spoons should I put for the sourdough?

marlanca! Aaaaaaaaa, this is bread
When it cools down, if you have time, show the cutter!

[marlanca]

marlanca, and can you insert the multicooker bowls into the airfryer itself? I just don't have a portable airfryer, but while you turn it over, you remember a little with a double boiler, and the bread becomes flat.
petu, I ferment sour cream with sourdough.

The girls baked bread from 200 gr. flour 50 minutes and 130C, the top in AG blushed .....)))

Where's the recipe?

Tanya, please, you must definitely tell about * sour cream * later - it's just that I'm passing ...

you can insert the multicooker bowls into the airfryer itself

in Filka, such an airfryer is straight up by Plotnenko with shadows, and the glass edges hang in the air (I would rather put the bowl in a 4-6 liter multi bowl), on other multi it stands right on the sides ..

[Catwoman]

Catwoman,
Lenus, HERE , only I put all the wheat flour and poured a spoonful of fried onions, our husband only eats bread, so I almost always bake for this amount, either black or white ...

in Filka, such an airfryer is straight up by Plotnenko with shadows, and the glass edges hang in the air (I would rather put the bowl in a 4-6 liter multi bowl), on other multi it stands right on the sides ..

I say I don't have this, is it possible to insert a bowl into an ordinary ag. Nothing will happen to her?

(I would rather place the bowl in a 4-6 liter multi bowl),.

Aaaaa Ol, "..... thoughts converge" ....., that is exactly how I made a saucepan from Filipka, along with bread, put it in a large one, and put the AG lid on top for 10 minutes ...

Galya,

[Sedne]

Sedne,
Svetul, and what will happen to her? I and Easter cakes, everything that I baked in cartoons, together with a bowl, put a viduhovka under the grill for the upper beautiful crust ....., since the first Panas on the 18th .....

[marlanca]

marlanca, thank you dear! My daughter-in-law finally unpacked Filia.

If the simultaneous operation is multi and grill, then there are limitations of 150 *.

[marlanca]

marlanca, thank you dear! My daughter-in-law finally unpacked Filia.

Ooooo, the process has started ....., but mine is still missing ..... ((((

[Catwoman]

CatwomanWhy did it take so long to unpack? I also gave Shtebka to a person far from the cartoons, so there they themselves asked me to unpack, and show, and cook something simple.

Ooooh, the process has started

By leaps and bounds .....: lol: Lena, and what she said ...

[petu]

petu, Ol, I put sour cream: 200g. cream 10% "Clover" from Billa (the cheapest 17 rubles) and a dessert spoon of sour cream "House in the Village" 15% ...

Nadia, be sure ... I'm waiting ...

Maybe you need water in the bowl (I did it on a silicone mat)

I always do with water. The sour cream was normal.

I buy cream in soft bags of local production 10% with a shelf life of 7 days. They have a pleasant natural taste.

And I take these, only we have a hard package) and did it on long-playing ones. I never boiled it, never even heated it, I take cream and sour cream for sourdough at room temperature.
Everything works out well.

Irina, and the temperature ??

By leaps and bounds .....: lol: Lena, and what she said ...

Ol, I don't know yet, is studying the instructions.I don’t read them.

The girls baked bread from 200 gr. flour 50 minutes and 130C, the top in AG blushed .....)))

Super!!!

Irina, and the temperature ??

I did it on Yoghurt. Hours 5, if I'm not mistaken, was enough.

Here, even mixed on top, thick.

🔗

Thank you, Irina! I did at 30 * ---- obviously this is not enough.

[Antonovka]

Today I was in Scarlet Sails on Begovaya and saw a silicone steamer, very pleasant, but at a very inhumane price. It looks small, but I don’t know if it will fit or not, because I don’t remember the internal dimensions of the Filipka bowl. If it were not for the price, I would have bought it anyway

Antonovka, I recently watched such a steamer, as one of the girls wrote that it fits in Filya. Only here it is sold in the FISSMAN branded departments "Insert for steaming pot 17.5 cm" called.
I remember that just recently on 01/18/16 I looked, there was a price (not to be confused) 700 with something and FROM HER a 30% discount, this is, like, a sale in their departments in NN, I just thought about taking it, but I was in a hurry, and it was inconvenient (I went to get the keys, AAAA, urraaa, they gave me the keys to my apartment !!!). If you are interested to whom, I will look on occasion, if necessary, I can send it, but I will just clarify whether this sale is over and whether prices have risen, I thought, 500 something should come out ...
Girls, look in your branded departments, suddenly you also have the same

Anya! Uraaaaa !!!! Congratulations! I got the keys! I wish you happiness in your new apartment!

Girls, the sour cream turned out in 4 hours thick, strong, slightly acidic, for my taste it can be sour, but I decided that it would ripen in the process of cooling today I made it from cheap cream, tomorrow I will make it from those that are more expensive, I will write about the result

Nadia, great!
I flew by today with sour cream. Apparently, I have hefty natural cream, sour in 3 days of storage
Tomorrow I will buy fresh and will do it.

Girls, one more addition - I just put a paper napkin in 2 layers on the bottom of the bowl, it protects the bowl, and prevents heat transfer much less than a silicone mat and yes, no water