IRR
Quote: DenRassk


I may not understand what, but Binaton 2170 this is (in my opinion) a multicooker I was not mistaken - this is a multicooker + a bread maker, and Orion is a bread maker and somehow it is not entirely correct to choose between them - the devices are completely different.
+1. If you choose a bread maker, then such a tandem as a multicooker + a bread maker loses to two devices separately. At least from ours - Dopplet did not advise. And for that kind of money, you can buy normal HP, even 2. budget, but tasteful.
Waist70
Quote: DenRassk

After reading many topics and reviews, I first tuned in to Binaton 2170, but soon changed my mind and decided to opt for Orion OBM-24
I may not understand what, but Binaton 2170 this is (in my opinion) a multicooker I was not mistaken - this is a multicooker + a bread maker, and Orion is a bread maker and somehow it is not entirely correct to choose between them - the devices are completely different.
You write better than what you are going to do with them ... and perhaps then it will be easier to advise something.

Binaton is a more functional apparatus than Orion, but will you use it all ...? And how convenient it is ...
Here is a topic about her https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=128998.0

Externally and functionally, Orion is similar to my Supra 355 (even the dispenser is the same), so check out this thread:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=120774.0
we drove it there in all positions and posted a lot of photos of the resulting bread with recipes, I think Orion will get something similar.
(do not think that I advise mine ... but it's worth a closer look)
Nevertheless, the topic about this Orion is here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=97097.0
Waist70
Quote: tanyuxa

Thanks for answers. I will also read the Temki indicated by you.
I tuned in to the bread maker to eat delicious and beautiful bread.
Buy BINATON BM 2169 Girl claps watch the video on yandex about her
tanyuxa
On the e-catalog I read reviews about 2169 - not very good, but better about Orion. Although Orion itself makes me suspicious
Tomorrow I'll read about 2169 again.
Waist70
Quote: tanyuxa

On the e-catalog I read reviews about 2169 - not very good, but better about Orion. Although the Orion firm itself makes me mistrust
Tomorrow I'll read about 2169 again.
The choice is yours then, for interest, watch the video about BINATONE on Yandex video .. very informative. they cook right in front of our eyes in various bread makers of this company. GOOD LUCK
Rina
For the money that is asked for a hybrid HP + MV, you can buy the same Orion and HP and MA, but with separate units.

As the owner of a hybrid (albeit of a better quality), I also support that the first should be a separate full-fledged bread maker and a separate multicooker. By the way, I advise you to pay attention to the DEX trademark. At least for a multicooker.
tanyuxa
Thank you. So I first tuned in to a hybrid, and then, after reading many negative reviews, I decided to buy a bread maker for now, and then beg for money for a multicooker.
And what about the quality of Dex's bread makers?
Celestine
All bread makers in this price category are absolutely the same in quality. Buy whichever design you like best
*** yana ***
The choice is yours then, for interest, watch the video about BINATONE on Yandex video .. very informative. they cook right in front of our eyes in various bread makers of this company.
not an indicator, just like reviews about equipment on the market ... now, if it were videos and reviews about equipment that worked for at least a year, then they should be guided by ..... but this is only in discussions on the site ...
Waist70
Quote: tanyuxa

Thank you. So I first tuned in to a hybrid, and then, after reading many negative reviews, I decided to buy a bread maker for now, and then beg for money for a multicooker.
And what about the quality of Dex's bread makers?
And I, on the contrary ...I thought about a bread maker and stopped at a slow cooker ... I just bought myself a PANASIKA SRT MH 18 LTW from the store ... AND THE FIRST AND SECOND AND DESSERT ... My three daughters and my husband love cupcakes ... BUT THE BREAD Maker WILL BE NEXT! !!
klepa_nata
Now the roof will go down ...
I don't know which one to choose.
It seems like this is what fits
Delonghi BDM 125 S
Gorenje BM1400E
Binatone BM-2169
Daewoo DI-9154
like that different shapes. it is convenient for me (for bread for every day)
that they can knead a large enough volume (and I plan to use it as a kneader for a while).
What do you recommend? where is the possibility of programming, so that, for example, the proofing time is set to 0?
Uncle Sam
I understand your worries.
Let's try to help right now.

If you want creativity by manipulating not only the composition of the bread, but also the time to complete each action - Delonghi BDM 125 S is in your hands. The site has a whole topic for fans of this model. They do THAT with her there. :-)

If I had chosen it myself, I would have settled on the Gorenje BM1400E. A new model for our site from a respected brand. And design is something! (the only one I did not find mention of creating programs in it)
klepa_nata
thanks, I found it on the internet:
Daewoo DI-9154 and Gorenje BM 1400 E programmable bread makers are twins. They are very similar in design and have exactly the same functionality and specifications.
While I decided to go around to see what is in the city, it may be possible to see live
Waist70
Quote: klepa_nata

Now the roof will go down ...
I don't know which one to choose.
It seems like this is what fits
Delonghi BDM 125 S
Gorenje BM1400E
Binatone BM-2169
Daewoo DI-9154
like that different shapes. it is convenient for me (for bread for every day)
that they can knead a large enough volume (and I plan to use it as a kneader for a while).
What do you recommend? where is the possibility of programming, so that, for example, the proofing time is set to 0?
AND I AM DREAMING ABOUT Binatone BM-2169 .. WITH TWO MIXERS WITH TWO BUCKETS ONE OF THEM IS DUAL. AND THE PRICE IS NOT EXCEEDED ... HERE I CAN'T FIND ANYWHERE
saika
Waist 70, so Daewoo DI-9154 and Gorenje BM 1400 E are also with 2 buckets and functions are almost the same as binaton 2169. I am very "tormented" I cannot decide Daewoo DI-9154 or 202 or Binatone BM-2169. And the panel is in Russian and the backlight, etc.: girl_cray: I have a Mulya5002, but I don't want to buy a bucket for 5 years of operation. I decided to buy HP with 2 buckets and a complete stupor. Where to stop the choice?
sazalexter
saika Daewoo DI-9154 and Gorenje BM 1400 E are one and the same, they are produced at the same plant in China, only the label is different, what is tormented See who has a normal service in your city and buy that.
saika
sazalexter, Daewoo DI-9154, as I already wrote the panel in Russian, but Gorenje BM 1400 E does not. If not right, correct.
sazalexter
saika This is not such a significant difference.
klepa_nata
I'm upset, there is nothing in the city, I decided Gorenje BM 1400 via the Internet, it seems that everything is ok in terms of money and terms, so no, they said delivery is more expensive by 120 rubles, I say without problems, current check and confirmation also provide why the price from the site is discounted, they said take off the order, and hung up.
Remains Daewoo DI-9154, but I don’t like the store there, that I didn’t buy from them - all the defects.
Everywhere it is written that this is one and the same, you can take the same recipes even, but I already tuned in to that one, and she seemed to be more helpful, but by Saturday, all the hope was for her
Waist70
Quote: saika

Waist 70, so Daewoo DI-9154 and Gorenje BM 1400 E are also with 2 buckets and functions are almost the same as binaton 2169. I am very "tormented" I cannot decide Daewoo DI-9154 or 202 or Binatone BM-2169. And the panel is in Russian and the backlight, etc.: girl_cray: I have a Mulya5002, but I don't want to buy a bucket for 5 years of operation. I decided to buy HP with 2 buckets and a complete stupor. Where to stop the choice?
Gorenje BM 1400 E has touch-sensitive control buttons and they often stick ... I prefer normal buttons
wwwika
Dear!
There is a west BM701W bread machine.
Where can I get instructions? Preferably in Russian.
*** yana ***
Quote: wwwika

Dear!
There is a west BM701W bread machine.
Where can I get the instructions? Preferably in Russian.
your stove is an analogue of clathronic, daewoo, liberton, cameron.
look here, it can help .... answer number 6
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=26545.0.html
Steel pie
Hello.
tell me which of these stoves is more reliable / better?

Philips HD9020
Binatone BM-2068
Binatone BM-2169
Ariete 130
Ariete 131

or is there something better at this price point?
Allegra
Quote: saika

Waist 70, so Daewoo DI-9154 and Gorenje BM 1400 E are also with 2 buckets and functions are almost the same as binaton 2169. I am very "tormented" I cannot decide Daewoo DI-9154 or 202 or Binatone BM-2169. And the panel is in Russian and the backlight, etc.: girl_cray: I have a Mulya5002, but I don't want to buy a bucket for 5 years of operation. I decided to buy HP with 2 buckets and a complete stupor. Where to stop the choice?

I would take Daewoo, because I saw all the stoves you listed "alive".
Daewoo is much more compact (it will take up less space on the table), but Binaton is quite large.
Waist70
Quote: Steel Pie

Hello.
tell me which of these stoves is more reliable / better?

Philips HD9020
Binatone BM-2068
Binatone BM-2169
Ariete 130
Ariete 131

or is there something better at this price point?
You don't have to go far here on Binatone BM-2169 ... I didn't notice a single negative review
Steel pie
Quote: Waist70

You don't have to go far here on Binatone BM-2169 ... I didn't notice a single negative review
Me too, but there are still problems, for them there is a 5-page topic.
all the stoves listed by me have excellent reviews, but I want to find the one that is more reliable.
in yandex. I read that Ariete is not made in China ..
she has fewer reports of problems, although there are also fewer users. therefore the probability of breakage is lower.
difficult to judge.
Waist70
Quote: Steel Pie

Me too, but there are still problems, for them there is a topic of 5 pages.
all the stoves listed by me have excellent reviews, but I want to find the one that is more reliable.
in yandex. I read that Ariete is not made in China ..
she has fewer reports of problems, although there are also fewer users. therefore the probability of breakage is lower.
difficult to judge.
And if the bucket is just worn out or the oil seal needs to be replaced ...: doctor: then the service must be available in your area. And for non-common models, a problem may arise
berya
Please advise which bread machine to buy. The budget is 8,000 rubles. Requirements: reliability, convenience and ease of use, variety of recipes. In principle, the task is to bake normal bread without foil and towels.
Rina
the variety of recipes depends on the person. A large number of programs do not justify themselves in practice - only a part is used.

As far as I understand, the budget is sufficient. Take a Panasonic and you will not know grief. Model 257 is a hit. And also look at the topic about new models - there are already users https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=126137.0.
pimar
I am very pleased with the 257th model, I bought it just for 8000. I wish everyone the same happiness.
Waist70
Quote: gypsy

Lyi, look at this photo, this is typical of small loaves baked in a large bucket. On the sides, the crust will be tanned, while the top will be pale. It turns out this way because there is no top shade in the bread maker, and the high sides of the bucket do not allow the heat to reach the top crust of the bread.
Which bread maker to buy?Forgive it from what stove you have such a crocodile got out ???
*** yana ***
Waist70Why are you scaring people with such pictures? did you look at the date? and the joint is clearly not Pechkin's ... it is clear that the bread is sweet, it only needs a light crust ...
Waist70
Quote: *** yana ***

Waist70Why are you scaring people with such pictures? did you look at the date? and the joint is clearly not Pechkin's ... it is clear that the bread is sweet, it only needs a light crust ...
IN THE COMMENTARY ON THE PHOTO "that there is no upper shade in the bread makers, and the high sides of the bucket do not give heat" ... I want to know in which ovens !!!
Elena Bo
Quote: Waist70

IN THE COMMENTARY ON THE PHOTO "that there is no upper shade in the bread makers, and the high sides of the bucket do not give heat" ... I want to know in which ovens !!!
In stoves with a viewing window.
*** yana ***
and in which stoves there is still an upper ten? in Panasonic one, in ski one, in clathronic one ... everything is in the lower part, and in the last two there is a window ... but I have never had such bread ...
mowgli
And I've never had this ...
Rina
I don’t think the top is pale just because the loaf is low. I was faced with a situation "on the contrary" - too large a loaf in moulinex had not just a pale top, but also frankly unbaked dough in the window projection.

In my opinion, the pale top is related to the quality of the flour and the insulation of the lid of the bread machine. If there is no isolation, then a loaf, even a small one, even a large one, can turn out pale on top.
Elena Bo
In the photo, not bread, but how I understood the cake. When baking, due to the fact that the dough is sweet, it was necessary to set a small size and a light crust.Now the bread makers have a Sweet bread program. And at the time when the photo was taken, everyone was baking on the Main. Hence the tanned sides (not the light top).
Anna96
Hello!
I really hope for your experience and help!))
Please advise. please, a bread maker) A family of 4 people, you need a lot of bread)) Bread both white and black) And it is desirable that you can cook jam) A dispenser is simply necessary, mom loves all kinds of bread with seeds)

I just can't find something suitable, thanks in advance!
Rina
Anya, write how much you are ready to spend, and in your profile indicate where you live (the choice is different in different countries and regions).

As for the jam: the fact is that it makes no sense to cook jam in bread makers for blanks - the volume is too small and the bread jam quickly deteriorates. That is, the bread maker helps if in winter you prepare jam from frozen berries, that is, eat it quickly, and not store it.
Anna96
Well, they counted somewhere in 5000 rubles to keep within))

Thank you for informing) So we can do without this function)
Rina
many stoves have this function, even inexpensive ones. It's just that it is not really used much. And hot sugar syrup can kill the non-stick coating or stirrer assembly.
NatkaM
Good day! I want to give my mom a bakery for her birthday. But I don't even know which side to approach the choice:
1.what basic functions should be
2.which is the most convenient to operate
3.We often have power surges so that programs do not go astray
4. so that you can bake different types of bread
5. so that it can be used for kneading different types of dough (butter, for pizza, dumplings, dumplings)
6.to be able to bake cakes
7.that the price matches the available functions and the quality of the baked products and the bread machine itself (I don't want to just overpay for the brand name)
I have few friends who have a bread maker, so I turned to you for advice. I live in Ukraine in the Kherson region. Price category from 500 to 1300 UAH. Thank you so much. I really hope for your personal experience and I look forward to hearing from you.
*** yana ***
NatkaM even then it is necessary to take into account the volume of the stove (how much bread or dough is needed) and how much mom is friends with the equipment ... according to point 7 .. maybe then a multi-cooker bread maker will suit you right away?
NatkaM
Thank you so much. I can't find my bearings by the amount of dough, because I've never tried baking in a bread maker. We have a small family of 3 people, one of whom is a 3-year-old child. I think that the test should be not very small and not very much (this is probably somewhere around 700 UAH). And I prefer to buy the equipment separately a bread maker, and separately a multicooker. I never take 2 in one. I think it's better to take it separately, but of good quality.
*** yana ***
NatkaMWell, now it's clearer ... you need a stove with an average loaf, and I won't be original if I advise Panasonic or false .... I don't know how it is with you in Ukraine, but our new Panasonic 2500 is now cheaper than Kenwood 450 by 2 thousand rubles
NatkaM
Thank you. But unas Kenwood (900-1350 UAH) is still much cheaper than Panasonic (1850-2100 UAH). But judging by the reviews, the best thing I understood is to pick up the money and buy a Panasonic SD-257WTS Bread Maker or 255 model. Girls, please tell me what to do, who has already used these bread makers. Thank you!!!
lega
Quote: NatkaM

Thank you. But unas Kenwood (900-1350 UAH) is still much cheaper than Panasonic (1850-2100 UAH). But judging by the reviews, the best thing I understood is to pick up the money and buy a Panasonic SD-257WTS Bread Maker or 255 model. Girls, please tell me what to do, who has already used these bread makers. Thank you!!!

You can save a little and buy the 254 or 256th model .. they are no worse, but much cheaper ..
*** yana ***
Girls, please tell me what to do, who has already used these bread makers. Thank you!!!
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