Which bread maker to buy?

Fotala bucket of my x \ n after two years of use, now I can show after three years, no changes by eye, that the spatula, that the bucket are all covered with strong Teflon.

Oh, isn't she the 4th year

[Bread maker Domus 100]

Bread maker Domus 100
Brand: Domus
Power: 610 W
Dimensions: 638x358x370 mm
Weight: 5.8kg
Case: stainless steel
Control: electronic (LCD)
Bread weight: 0.5 / 0.75 / 1 / 1.5 kg
Automatic heating
Cooling system
10 operating modes
6 modes for bread, baking, dough
3 modes for crusting bread
European quality standard
Saving settings for 13 hours

Dear forum users! In the bakery team, I am nothing at all: today is the sixth day. And even then, one might say, I was looking for a gift for my parents by chance, but I got carried away so much that I still can't stop. As a result of searches, doubts and anguish))) still settled on Panasonic (I want to say that I am very happy with the stove and I do not regret the choice) But, if you answer the question: what exactly influenced my choice? I can hardly give an absolutely clear answer ... Probably, a little bit of everything: both popularity, and a small% of breakdowns (I judge, of course, only by reviews and based on a comparative table on this forum), and so to speak tactile sensations - I went to shop and touched, felt almost everything that was in stock. By the way, if I chose only on the basis of the latter factor, then most likely I would have bought a Kenwood 450 or Bork .... well, they seemed very pleasant to me ... and beautiful (although I understand that this is a purely female "quirk" - to judge about beauty technique))) But this phrase:

I can draw an analogy with a photo.
There are DSLRs for Kenona, Nikona, Panasonic, Samsung, Pentax, Olympus (we won't talk about Leiki and Hasseli - this is another niche).
So, not a single normal commercial photographer will work with Panasonic, Samsung, Pentax, Olympus. And not because show-off, but because the result is important ..

made me look at the choice of stove from another side. Now I choose a phone for my husband)) And I know that he only needs Nokia .. In stores they ask me: why ??? And indeed .... I, a 100% adherent of Sony Ericsson, cannot explain this. That is, even within the same family, we have completely different preferences. And to say who is more right is impossible! It's just a matter of taste, habit, feeling of "one's own thing" or something .... What can we say about such a large family as our forum! Yes, probably, just like in the case of DSLRs, phones can also be chosen among more recognized manufacturers, and among the unpopular brands, the main thing is to find the correspondence of all factors that will suit you optimally. In my opinion, this applies to bread makers in full ...
Sorry that I wrote so much I just want to "try on the irreconcilable" paraphrasing the classics: "all ovens are good, choose the taste!"

[Sherly]

Sherly,! Do not pay attention - we have here from time to time all sorts of hostilities about the Panasonic Forever, everything else is nothing !, we get our sabers out of the scabbard to wave for adrenaline, anyway then we put up, but everyone remains at his own opinion. annoying * delicious bread from Panasonic * ... and only from it

Here came across the network
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Breadmaker efficiency
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[Bread maker Domus 100]

Bread maker Domus 100
Brand: Domus
Power: 610 W
Dimensions: 638x358x370 mm
Weight: 5.8kg
Case: stainless steel
Control: electronic (LCD)
Bread weight: 0.5 / 0.75 / 1 / 1.5 kg
Automatic heating
Cooling system
10 operating modes
6 modes for bread, baking, dough
3 modes for crusting bread
European quality standard
Saving settings for 13 hours

Here is her clone 🔗

And all the same, I express a humble IMHO, without pretending to be true in the final instance

They chose the same way. Although we went for a certain brand and model.
We examined, touched the inside and outside, and sniffed everything that was available (and this is a media market and the choice was very large)
And they left with exactly what they were driving for.
That is, with Panasonic
But this is IMHO (my personal opinion, I do not consider it the ultimate truth and I do not impose on anyone)
Almost 2 months have passed - we are happy with the choice.
Excellent baking results.
True, ready-made mixtures are beyond the power of even Panasonic.
Better to stir yourself, then a good result is guaranteed-fell asleep-turned on-opened-cooled-eat-blooper !!!!!!!!!
But ready-made mixtures - alas, not that!
But not only with us.
As for the shape of the bread machine itself, it is also ++++++ -very convenient and compact.
About the "priests"
I read the forum. gave it to my wife to read.
Impressed by the number of Panasonic users.
Now we have this and our friends are quietly talking about it.
They do not seek from goodness.
If we are convinced that there is a multi necessary and constantly used thing in the household, then we will go for KUKU 1054F or that there will be the following.
Initially, there was no doubt that baking is a necessary thing on the farm.
and therefore was chosen based on the parameters
Guaranteed baking result
Reliability in work
Compactness in placement in the kitchen
Value for money

[COOLER]

Better to stir yourself, then a good result is guaranteed

COOLER, I'm sorry, but how is it?

[COOLER]

COOLER, I'm sorry, but how is it?

And this is when not a mixture, with unknown components
and you take from the forum or from the primer (booklet to the oven) the recipe
add everything as indicated in the instructions, everything is in strict accordance with the recipe
exactly by weight, sifting flour through a mug (By the way, about a mug - in 7 hills there is a very interesting mug with two bottoms !!!!! Who has such a better than a cheap one with one bottom?)
you close - and an excellent result is guaranteed !!!!
Black is obtained only by recipes.
Ready-made mixtures - low breads are obtained - delicious - but very dense and sifting them dreary.
Is it really worth a drop of apple cider vinegar !?
What if it helps?

Ready-made mixtures - low breads are obtained - delicious - but very dense and sifting them dreary.
Is it really worth a drop of apple cider vinegar !?
What if it helps?

Better to Panifarin (gluten) and even better not to buy IMHO mixes, but to shop in Orange and stock up on flour, malt and fermipan

[u] delicious]

I have a bread maker for 4 months. Naturally I like it (after all, mine is). Bread bread bakes noble, delicious. Friends and relatives, having seen enough of my beauty, also bought Panasonyushek for themselves. Everyone is happy.
And here is an interesting case. I came home and sat down to supper. Sliced ​​bread is on a plate. I stomp, think about something and about God, what I'm chewing STE. Disgusting, sorry. I came to the conclusion that the stove has deteriorated, or the flour is lousy. I looked for a long time, smelled it, put it aside - I'll feed it to the birds. Upset, how terrible. But in the end it turned out that mama and a neighbor exchanged bread, boast of their achievements. I will not name the brand of the neighbor's stove, but the conclusion has been made!
Gypsy girl! Taki [u] delicious[/ u] Pani bakes bread !!! well ooooo!

Better to Panifarin (gluten) and even better not to buy a mixture IMHO, but to shop in Orange and stock up on flour, malt and fermipan

They bought us Panifarin, they haven't taken it yet.
You can in a personal advice how to bake normal bread from a mixture. And then we, like a few other people on this forum, foolishly stocked up with these mixtures.
And now we must somehow use them up

[u] delicious]

: uk is lousy. I looked for a long time, smelled it, put it aside - I'll feed it to the birds. Upset, how terrible. But in the end it turned out that mama and a neighbor exchanged bread, boast of their achievements. I will not name the brand of the neighbor's stove, but the conclusion has been made!
Gypsy girl! Taki [u] delicious[/ u] Pani bakes bread !!! well ooooo!

well ... the error on ingredients and crooked hands has not been canceled either.

Lika! not three, pleated! let him hang a little. the muzh have not swore yet.

They bought us Panifarin, they haven't taken it yet.
You can in a personal advice how to bake normal bread from a mixture. And then we, like a few other people on this forum, foolishly stocked up with these mixtures.
And now we must somehow use them up

Divide the mixture into 5-7 parts and add to the desired and similar recipe, it will not greatly change the taste of your favorite recipe.

Divide the mixture into 5-7 parts and add to the desired and similar recipe, it will not greatly change the taste of your favorite recipe.

Thank you!
This is an option !!!! And then so much good lies and you don't want to bake it.
Usually bread for two in 2 days. Potato really only lived one day.
And with the ready-made mixture, we cannot finish the day for 4 days.
After the black air, well, not ice at all!

That's it, for today the next military actions are stopped !!!

I went for a big broom.

Nooo! No broom!
Everyone loves their machine. To understand what is better what is worse is possible only in comparison. there are such reviews in this thread too
Everyone writes about their model and about what was the priority when choosing.
Newbies will honor and make their choice.
Guys! Let's live in peace!!!!!

I already have Alaska and LV without buckets.

And in my LV, after 8 years of use, there is not a single scratch, and sometimes I bake bread in 2 loaves, and at work they often ask me to bring home, and when I bring them they get a store one, and there is a queue for my bread on the "record" ... also what I like-NO ELECTRONIC SCALES !!!!!!!

And not only you, I could understand the personal dislike of the moderator, but why was it necessary to remove information about cheap HP Domus for me is not entirely clear, especially considering the information that is clearly not a flood, but could be useful to those who do not get to the topic "Maybe you shouldn't overpay for brands?"
But, it's like in life .... there are no prophets in their own country.

About dislike is your fantasy, keep it to yourself, please.
Here is your desired stove. Nobody deleted it.
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=3696.560

[Marusya29]

Marusya29, an inactive link, this is a regular link that will not stand out on our site with a blue ball. You can give any links to any sites, but not highlight them ... nothing is easier

"all ovens are good, choose the taste!"

I disagree. There is something to compare with. The first LG was purchased in 2000. It baked well, did jam, but at the 8th year of work the oil seals got old, leaked, the transmission belts burst. We decided to buy something cheaper. I took Clatronic for myself, granny Alaska. But neither one nor the other could compete with LG. Both worked for 2 years and the buckets were out of order. Both turned out to be sensitive to voltage fluctuations, and therefore good bread was baked only at night. Now Granny has LG again, I have Panasonic. It was unusual at first the long temperature equalization. But the quality of the bread is excellent. Claim only for recipe books - errors in proportions and at Panasonic at LG.

... I took Clatronic for myself, granny Alaska ...
Both proved to be sensitive to voltage drops, and therefore good bread was baked only at night ...

Another confirmation of the torment of choice.
How well you can adapt to bake decent bread only at night, and baking is cheaper when you still have two electricity rates in the apartment: day and night.

Vanya28
Yeah, I saved myself when, one by one, the stove went out of order and there was no bread in the house. You can't run into a store. How much bread do you need for 8 people? And I don't have a store nearby, I have to go ...And the stoves are not repaired ... And I don't want to buy a new one.

Vanya28
Yeah, I saved myself when, one by one, the stove went out of order and there was no bread in the house. You can't run into a store. How much bread do you need for 8 people? But I don't have a store nearby, I have to go ... And they don't repair stoves ... But I don't want to buy a new one.

I see!
So we try to objectively help others with the agony of choosing HP.
As the saying goes, they are all good when they sleep ... against the wall.

Saying "all ovens are good, choose the taste!" I generally meant (forgive me for this quote): "To each his own." What is good for one person (for example: I bake at night, it is so convenient for me, but the stove is inexpensive and I save electricity), for another, it’s bad at all (I’m used to sleeping peacefully at night, but I agree to pay for convenience and reliability). There may be many options, how many people. so many opinions)) For me, the choice of Panasonic occurred, in particular, for the reason that there are no illusions regarding the use of my "golden" pens and a bright head in the field of baking. Therefore, for the start, my assistant had to be "smart and reliable". And, having searched the Internet, for some reason there was no better in this regard.Perhaps over time, having reached heights in baking, I will change my priorities ... but so far for me, this is the most successful find .......

the owners of Panasonic open the secret that, in addition to * equalizing the temperature *, the oven does so special with the dough that it is so radically different from other bread makers, and that you don't even need to have basic knowledge in baking and throw everything into it and get the most delicious bread at the end *?

[Gypsy]

Gypsywhy lump everything together, it's not good!
Panasonic also has drawbacks, because of which I personally recommend to choose not only it, but also other models, and baking bread is not difficult, it is enough to read here on the forum.

gypsy, in order to tell this, you need to work closely with at least one Panasonic. I have not even seriously driven my hybrid as HP yet. But I like the quality of the bread there less, it turns out to be some kind of lumpy (do you doubt that I, after all, in almost three years learned to determine the consistency of the dough at the kneading stage?)

I have Klatronic for the fifth year, the flight is normal, the bread is delicious.

you don't even need to have basic knowledge in baking and throw everything into it and get * the most delicious bread * at the end?

delusion. Especially about "everything." By this principle, nothing will work. even in a super oven. Basic errors / misprints in the recipe book for the beautiful stove have confused many of its users. And vice versa, in a non-branded oven that baked so-so, it was possible to get excellent bread. But at the same time, of course, you need to know the whole process, its time intervals. It's easier with Panasonic. I chose a worked out recipe and I am sure of the result.

[*** yana ***]

Especially when there is no good thermal regulation and stabilization of work in HP at low voltage of the mains (for example, in a village), what are you talking about, *** yana ***, honestly and write above about some models, see Answer # 557.
5+

What the oven does, I can't say - I don't know ... The experience is only a week ... But at this stage, this is what suits me))) That is, the fact that with my minimal participation (I fell asleep strictly according to the recipe, closed and received delicious bread) - the result is positive. I, please note, did not write anywhere that in Panasonic the most delicious bread Probably. a good hostess will make porridge even out of an ax ... But, alas, this is not about me. I am just writing that these are my first experiments in baking in general and, thanks to the oven, they are successful. And this inspires - I want to try something new, there is enthusiasm and a certain certainty that everything will work out. If I bought, for example, Kenwood or Alaska, maybe I would write all this now about them. But it happened, as it happened ....

delusion. Especially about "everything."This principle will fail. even in a super oven. Elementary mistakes / misprints in the recipe book for an excellent stove confused many of its users. And vice versa, in a non-branded oven that baked so-so, it was possible to get excellent bread. But at the same time, of course, you need to know the whole process, its time intervals. It's easier with Panasonic. I chose a worked out recipe and I am sure of the result.

Recently I have been baking bread under the name "I blinded it from what it was", that is, I open the refrigerator and throw in all the leftovers, kefir, fermented baked milk, cheese, etc. The only thing that I will look at the bun is, if necessary, I add flour and I don't go to the stove anymore, there were no punctures, I haven't been weighing anything for a long time, but I do everything by sight.

[Vanya]

The theme is: "What kind of bread machine to buy?" Here you need to advise

Duc and please Vanya to name the flaws of Panasonic - I didn't pull his tongue, he said

And to tell about the pros and cons is the task of every good baker here.
Then I suppose everyone is here.

but is silent, like a partisan, sends it in a personal. It's good that no further. Or fears that the owners of Panasonic will ostracize him

Attacked!
Too lazy to go read!
I will write now.
Weak comb for rye bread - bends.
Water must be poured from above, otherwise water may flow into the oil seal with subsequent jamming of the blade shaft. It is difficult to unblock and clean after that, as it may start to leak after that.
The plastic is deformed at the hot air outlet.
Not programmable.
Temperature equalization is preliminary, I will not presume to comment, there is a lot of controversy here, but it works.
So it's enough for a start. All personal experience and experience of familiar with intensive use.

Water must be poured from above, otherwise water may flow into the oil seal with subsequent jamming of the blade shaft. It is difficult to unblock and clean after that, as it may start to leak after that.

And this is where and who happened?

Weak comb for rye bread - bends.

True, yours is bending (yes, this is a spatula for kneading rye bread) And after the first rye-wheat bread. Chas say, I thought I bought this, just overlooked

Water must be poured from above, otherwise water may flow into the oil seal with subsequent jamming of the blade shaft. It is difficult to unblock and clean after that, as it may start to leak after that.

By itself: immediately water or sweat, there is no difference .... but WHAT are the consequences !!! I am very glad that I read this now, I will be twice as careful. Thank you!

Water must be poured from above, otherwise water may flow into the oil seal with subsequent jamming of the blade shaft. It is difficult to unblock and clean after that, as it may start to leak after that.
The plastic is deformed at the hot air outlet.

Links to the studio !!!!!
Those cases that the scapula was bent are after "helping" the bread maker
Not programmable. She SHOULD NOT do that !!!!!!
This is not stated by the manufacturer !!! It's also like saying that Moulinex doesn't run to the store.

True, yours is bending (yes, this is a spatula for kneading rye bread) And after the first rye-wheat bread. Chas say, I thought I bought this, just overlooked

By itself: immediately water or sweat, there is no difference .... but WHAT are the consequences !!! I am very glad that I read this now, I will be twice as careful. Thank you!

This is our Vanya who got it from somewhere - about leaking buckets from Panasonic. In any case, I have not seen a single such described case on the forum (I do not exclude that it exists). But ... even if so, then this company offers a bookmarking order that contributes to the longer work of the bucket. For most of the rest (with a different order of the bookmark), just this unit with oil seals and other crap often fails.

Water must be poured from above, otherwise water may flow into the oil seal with subsequent jamming of the blade shaft.

This is where the dog rummaged, and so far I could not understand what kind of logic in Panasonic, first pour in then pour thanks for the ray of light

[wort,]

This is where the dog rummaged, and so far I could not understand what kind of logic in Panasonic, first pour in then pour thanks for the ray of light

we have so wort, Tanya is doing, her Kenwood bucket did not live up to a year. The lottery, however ...

[wort,]

we have so wort, Tanya is doing, her Kenwood bucket did not live up to a year. The lottery, however ...

And I pour it into my broken Chinese .. and it happens that it gets wet for 2 days ... 4 .. exactly 4 years old for him a bucket and a stove for $ 70 (our local prices, in your area it is cheaper)

and now they have some stoves .. sorry they are not being taken to Israel

the shoulder blades are not bending, but folding bread is mixed up, the stirrer to burn in the opposite direction spun and folded, there is nothing to get stuck in the bun.


there is also a small car clone of Supra and other brands (from one plant),
so buy and not be afraid of the cheap price the British buy them and use them safely for £ 49.99

Her shoulder blade does not fold, but lies on the bottom. The two older models also have two programs for personal recipes for 17 standard programs, 19 in total.
Proving dough without boning 120 minutes.

I have a question for you, is there a Panasonic service center where you live, if you suddenly want to buy some accessory?

So Panasonic was taken with the expectation that, according to reviews, a reliable model, I hope it will work for a long time (ugh, ugh, ugh). There are services, but the quality of work cannot be compared with Moscow ones. And they are expensive and lazy, the repair consists mainly in the delivery and replacement of spare parts.

pour water from above

And not fundamentally FOR ANY HP. It is much worse when dry sugar begins to scratch at the bottom of the bucket - this is unacceptable. I always pour water in ALL my HPs first.

Disadvantages of Panasonic

Yes, the price is a disadvantage, expensive. And mistakes in the recipe book, as I already wrote. Works almost silently. By my ear, I could determine the quality of the kolobok by my Klatronic ...

no programming

The home programming function is just nonsense (sorry). Those professionals who need it buy themselves professional equipment. And, I remembered one more drawback (rejoice). Here my granny does not see the arrows on the Panasonic screen when you expose the program. Her screen is highlighted in red on her LV. It can be clearly seen both day and night. And I forgot about the spatula for rye bread - I interfere with everything alone.

[far from idle talk]

"The programming function in the home is just idle talk,"
- far from idle talk.
You write down any recipe in memory and save time by not going to the bread maker once again. Do not combine with a set of programs and on-off HP, adapting to the recipe.

Good day!

We need qualified advice.
I am looking for HP that would satisfy the following needs.

1. First, the HP must be programmable. The more custom programs the stove supports, the better.

2. When programming the stove, it should be possible to disable any stage. Faced the fact that in some models, it is impossible to set the lifting time less than 20 minutes.

3. The oven should be good at kneading dense dough. Since this will be her main job.

4. Ideally, I would like two kneaders.

5. If there is an opportunity in the program to set the temperature at each stage - it will be super. This mode is required to mix the dough, heat it, stir it, heat it up (and so on several times).

Dear, help with advice, which stove best suits these requirements?

[Ffire]

Ffire According to your requirements, only Zorushi Search in the topic America and the USA

These are the requirements !!!
For example, I have never heard of HB with two kneaders ...

These are the requirements !!!
For example, I have never heard of HB with two kneaders ...

Duc is full of Moulinex 5002-5004-6XXX. Zorushi too

[Ffire]

Ffire Please Breadmaker BB-CEC20 https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/s-image/3128/products/bbcec
Delivery cost will be 18-20t.p + an adapter for it needs 220-110 volts.
But what a cool HP, Hi-End

I caught fire by buying a bread machine
but I don’t know where to stop my gaze ...

We don't have Panasonic ... or rather, there was only one for the whole city for 8999, but I'm not ready to pay that kind of money, or rather I'm not ready for my mother to give it to me (for the wedding anniversary), I still have conscience

full of kenwoods and muliks (all kinds from 1000 to 6002), there are supras ...
found phillips one today ...

I would like advice from everything that I saw interested in mule 3101 and phillips, as it looks like a panas, but it's easier than a mule at the same price (4360 rubles) ... but in phillips (judging by the reviews, the stirrers ALWAYS remain in shape)

it is important to know who bakes and kneads better, crust and all that

I ask how full the kettle is, since the oven will be the first
I would like for the next 5-10 years