Which bread maker to buy?

they had a website in the net .... look if interested ...

Black_cat, sent a test email
Do you have HP? if yes, which one?

See the mailbox, I sent you two letters
can be a little later, how to mix with pictures? Do pdf files have something to open?

I had enough money to choose an expensive HP. but I came across a good boy manager in the store, who helped me choose ... one of the cheapest domestic HP. and no regrets!
in his words, almost all HP have a set of bread, dumplings, pastries, jam. but service centers in our city are not represented by all brands. therefore, in the event of a breakdown, I would have to contact neighboring cities. and the price of consumables strongly depends on the brand. here's your first benefit.
many people take HP, indulge in a month or two or three, and then throw it on the mezzanine. Since it was also my first CP, there was no confidence that I would not repeat the fate of such comrades. all the same, abandoning inexpensive equipment is less offensive than one into which a lot of money has been piled. here's your second benefit.
if all goes well, then you will pick yourself up on Panas or go, like many here, to baking in the oven, when HP is used only for kneading dough.
I never take out a spatula, but I bake with it. nothing terrible happens.
so take HP simpler and cheaper. for a start there will be it.

[Nastenka]

Nastenka
Actually sweetka gave good advice - to begin with, find out which company the service you have in the city ... here we do not have any service, so the choice was due to the fact that in the city there is a representative of only one online store, which then you can contact with a problem ...
So which HP did you choose?

still in thought ...
I will definitely ask about the sevisa !!!

probably Mula 3011, although the girls here do not speak badly about Phillips
in general, SC will be the decisive factor!

[Nastenka]

Nastenka Did you mean Moulinex OW3101 Uno? I did not find the manufacturer of this device, on the sites 🔗 this model is not
Only there is a description and not accurate here 🔗

yes, this is the model I meant

in the store stands next to other mules ...

Please help me to cope with the throes of choice. You need a bread maker with rye bread baking and optionally a cupcake.
I hesitate between Kenwood BM366 and LG HB-206CE.
What do you advise?

Hello, dear forum users
Help me in my choice, as such I do not need HP, but I need the ability to knead dough (any: for pies, charlotte, pizza, dumplings ...) and bake it myself in the oven or on the stove.
Preferably not very expensive. Thanks to everyone who will respond to my request

Hello, thanks for responding
I live in St. Petersburg. The house is full of technology: AG, and MV, and an oven, a pressure cooker, a multicooker ... There is an oven where, but I don't really want to mess with the dough. There is a desire to throw everything together, turn it on ... and get the finished dough. And then do whatever you want with him
What do you advise ?

[INEXPENSIVE.]

What do you advise ?

I have Delfa like this, there are 4 types of dough in it - yeast, pasta (dumplings), biscuit and shortbread. I keep it for kneading, although the bread is good in it. Exceptionally, she is able to knead the dough - quickly, powerfully and there is a lot of output, because there are 2 mixers.



You, in Russia, have an analogue to it Erisson BM-250, look for this or similar face to mine. They are riveted at the same plant in China, only different brands are molded on the face.

here is erikson



should be INEXPENSIVE.

Hello everyone! I have already chosen a multicooker, now I will settle here! )) my husband fired up ideas for homemade bread and looked after this model of the moulinex ow200036 bread machine. if on our site there has already been a discussion of this model, I will be very grateful for the hint! husband is interested in baking bran, whole grain bread.

[Lana]

Lana, in the same section you can see subsections for different brands https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=21.0
Check out other brands too. The fact is that mulinexes suffer from frequent breakdowns (let's say, of all brands, this one has more complaints). Find your way around which brands and models you can actually buy in your region, and choose from them.

[Lana]

Lana, in the same section you can see subsections for different brands https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=21.0
Check out other brands too. The fact is that mulinexes suffer from frequent breakdowns.

+1. I also just recently went into the service (by mobile phone) and there these mulinexes and buckets to them (at crazy prices). Rinka, let's crawl away! schA owners of these we are castrated

Lana , when you choose a stove, look carefully at the pictures of breads from it. It often happens that the upper crust is lighter than the sides (or, more simply, white) - this is the stove that is not baking and there is no buzz There are methods of struggle. But you need it? : secret: when you can initially buy a good one and: secret: inexpensive.

[sandwich-Italian-sweet bread]

Can you please tell me which stove has all of the following modes at once ?:
-sandwich
-Italian
-sweet bread
These are required.

Also very desirable, but not super required
-cake
-superfast (which is done in an hour, sometimes very necessary)
Well, if there is also "rye" with "dumplings" ("pasta", in general, something for a tough dough) - then generally a dream
The rest are not so important, the main programs are the same in all.

I dug up the whole topic according to the brands of bread machines (I've been digging for two days already) - I just can't figure out the right one. Maybe someone came across such a combination of programs? Of course, it is desirable that this stove can be bought in Russia.

In a dream!

Note: I am aware that Italian, sweet, toast can, in principle, be baked in any bread machine, especially in a Panasonic one, but you need an oven with a set of these ready-made programs.

modes ?:
-sandwich
-Italian
-sweet bread
These must

and how is Italian different from French?

which stove has all of the following modes at once

most likely Kenwood BM 450 is a pity that Panasonic does not have a programmable program ...

I have Panasonic, but none of the listed modes (the first three) are in it. Perhaps it is in the European version, but you cannot buy it in Russia.

[Alexa13]

Alexa13then you are already an experienced baker, you need a programmable bread baker .... you yourself will come up with programs for yourself, according to your requests ...
she has a program "Nome made I just miss this program. but I can't say anything about the quality of the stove ...
of programmable more
Daewoo DI-9154
Gorenje BM 1400 E.
Delonghi BDM 125S -
Kenwood BM 450
Bork BM500 -.
Binatone BM-2169 -

[yana]

yana, Thank you so much! A programmable stove is also a good option!

After all, Christmas tree-sticks! In the European version of Panasonic, there are definitely all three programs that I wrote: sandwich, Italian, brioche (butter, sweet) + everything from our 255/257, except for jam and dumplings.
Why can't you make a stove that has ALL of these modes at once ?!
In general, the price would not have been such a stove!

[Alexa13]

After all, Christmas tree-sticks! In the European version of Panasonic, there are definitely all three programs that I wrote: sandwich, Italian, brioche

Alexa13, for those who are deep in the tank, and what kind of Italian regime is this? And how does it differ, for example, from fr?

In general, the price would not have been such a stove!

where next? It is still more expensive than all stoves.

the only thing that Panasonic lacks is the ability to program your recipe there ... then when he will have very few competitors .....: yes: we now have Kenwoods more expensive than Panasonic ...

[Alexa13]

Alexa13, for those who are deep in the tank, and what kind of Italian regime is this? And how does it differ, for example, from fr? where next? It is still more expensive than all stoves.

and how is Italian different from French?

IRR, *** yana ***, I will definitely not say the difference in technology, but since there is a separate program, it means there are differences in time, temperature. An earlier Panasonic model had an "Italian" program.In European Panasonic, as I wrote above, it also exists, along with "sandwich" and "French", since Europeans respect these types of bread very much. For our market, the programs "pelmeni" and "jam" were made, and those two were removed. "To the heap" and "sweet bread" (aka "brioche") disappeared.
Italian has a specific structure and a special program seems to be desirable.

Regarding "more expensive than all stoves" - that's the point!

In general, I dug up a lot of information. I found out that the "Italian" program is quite long (4.5 hours), has a long proofing, and apparently there are differences in temperature. The result is a special crumb and crust. Judging by the recipes on the internet, Italian bread is baked on completely different programs, for lack of a special one: on the “basic”, and on the “French”, and on the “dietary”, and even on “rye.” Whoever adapts how.
I was just looking for a stove as a gift to one very good person for an anniversary. He loves just such breads - toast (sandwich), Italian, sweet and savory. And I would like to have ready-made programs. And I would have bought one myself!

for example, "sandwich" and "sweet bread" (I suspect that the same brioche ") is in one of the clathronic models. But, as far as I understand, this does not help.

[Rina]

Rina , Thank you! Most likely, you will have to choose among stoves that have two of these three programs, since all three are, apparently, only in stoves sold in Europe. And for the upcoming anniversary, manufacturers will hardly have time to release a new model that meets all my requests.

for example, "sandwich" and "sweet bread" (I suspect that the same brioche ") is in one of the clathronic models. But, as far as I understand, this does not help.

no, a good man doesn't need a clathronic ...

with the Italian mode, I did not find decent stoves ... but without it you can pick up a good one ...

no, a good man doesn't need a clathronic ...

shl. I will change in the sense of a joke, I'm not talking about the stove. And Cho there, it seems, in the clathronics decent breads are baked and the price is average.

like, in clathronics decent breads are baked and the price is average

disposable ..... the bucket lasted for 1.5 years .... and they do not cure it ... they say it is cheaper for you to buy a new one .... it feels energetic spruce (bread at night turns out to be 5 centimeters higher), it works loudly (in comparison with Panasonic and false), the worst thing is that the signatures to the programs are quickly erased on the panel ..... you must then either sign them all the time or hang a piece of paper next to it .. .. and the display is hard to see, it is without backlight .... vot.
the advantages include low cost, ease of management, a good set of programs. there are baked goods separately. timer with a delay, a loaf of 900 grams ...

disposable ..... the bucket lasted for 1.5 years ...

and in expensive Kenwoods - the bucket (at Susley's) did not last a year. And buckets are not treated anywhere. if you mean leaks. They don't even want to listen: nea: simply, they order new ones from the service. And each oven has a separate program for baking, only it can be called differently. For example, Scarlett and Perfezz are called. heating, but this is all, like, it works loudly and the signatures are erased and the display is without backlight - this is all inconvenient, but not critical. The main thing is that it bakes well, without jambs. purely IMHO.

just order new ones from the service

Not a single service offered me a bucket on my clathronic ... and now they refuse to use Panasonic too, they say it is not in stock ...
and epiploons are short-lived now even on branded models (they probably agreed to break faster) ...
in general, the best is the enemy of the good ... now, having extensive experience in baking, I would buy an inexpensive one, but with the ability to install 2-5 of my programs.

And each oven has a separate program for baking, only it can be called differently

in Ski no

signatures are erased and the display is without backlight - this is all inconvenient, but not critical

once a week our granny always comes with news - the stove is broken! but it turns out again she did not finish what program she put up ... she will have to give away the LV, there is a little red light, it can be seen well ...

*** Yana ***, and what kind of clathronic you have, there were buckets in Moscow, I can call and find out.

[Tanyusha]

Tanyusha : hi: still the same, the last time you called, my clathronic 2605 had no 900 grams (to be more precise, it never happened), and which bucket from some other stove fits, I never got to the bottom ... ...

*** Yana *** There were definitely such buckets, I personally bought them, but then they disappeared, unfortunately I just called the service and they told me that there is not and will not be.

and they told me that there is no and will not

This is what I have heard this for the second year already ... but the handy ones, like on the Ukrainian branch of the masters, did not find ...

that's it and that's it, I've heard this for the second year already ...

I have a second scarlet stove - there is a maximum of 900 g bucket - it is an analogue of a small moulinex (I saw them next to each other in Comfi - they stand together like 2 twins) can there be such a bucket? I'll look for bread - I'll throw it out of mine, compare, is that your bucket?

only, it is necessary to look for analog, and not moulinex, because somehow out of curiosity I asked the price of a bucket for a mule, it's easier to buy a velvet stove for 60 bucks, use it until you drop in a year and a half, and then change it.

[IRR]

IRR, and what do you have in the background for a pretty bloomer? A cartoon?

[IRR]

IRR, and what do you have in the background for a pretty flowery guy? A cartoon?

rice cooker, my very first. Comfort from the Metro. One-button, but (y) I was bored with it for half a year, while I was looking for a cartoon * JOKINGLY *, we can say, thanks to her, I got to this site. And stayed here, thanks gypsy posts-educational program, it is about her. And then HP, slow cookers, steam generators, etc., etc.

there is a bucket for a maximum of 900 grams - it is an analogue of a small moulinex (I saw them next to each other in Komfi, they stand together, like 2 twins) can, is there a bucket?

and there is the whole chip, in the very part of the bucket, which is inserted into the blade rotation mechanism ... they are somewhat different on all models ...
although at first glance it seems like one to one ..... look at the side-buckets from clathronic and Panasonic twins, I was delighted ... but they don't fit from below

.. they are somewhat different on all models ....:

happens, but not always. In my great. The Delphi bucket from Liberton 05 fits like a poured and expensive mule. Although, of course, everything should be done empirically. I usually come in stores and start pans from multicooker, which one would go where. And with stoves a little more complicated, but you can also: secret: little by little. Not yet

And with stoves a little more complicated, but you can also quietly. Not yet

: So last year I walked with my leaky Klatronikovsky one .... even in the METRO ..... it didn't work out .....

[mixers are unified]

i think if mixers are unified for a large number of different stoves, then the buckets can be unified. Surely there is information somewhere ...

rice cooker, my very first. And then HP, slow cookers, steam generators, etc., etc.

ahhh, is this the culprit of the device fever in your kitchen ?! So cute! Now cartoon characters from Viscount and Polaris with similar designs are doing.
With kitchen appliances like this - you buy one successful and it starts. And one multi is not enough, and one HP. What's interesting is that everything is at work, no one is idle! (at least for me)

... Surely there is information somewhere

if there is such an intelligent person, let him poke my nose there, I will be very grateful .....: yes: the clathronic model 2605 somehow stands apart ... there was a topic for comparable models, with pictures ... there is this model- one was in the row .... maybe that has changed .. but in services they are generally silent as partisans, especially if there is an opportunity to replace spare parts from a cheaper model - they will never say and such persons do

disposable ..... the bucket lasted for 1.5 years .... and they do not cure it ... they say it is cheaper for you to buy a new one .... it feels energetic spruce (bread at night turns out 5 centimeters higher), it works loudly (in comparison with Panasonic and false), the worst thing is that the signatures to the programs are quickly erased on the panel ...you then either have to sign them all the time or hang a piece of paper next to it .... and the display is hard to see, it is without backlight .... vot.
the advantages include low cost, ease of management, a good set of programs. there are baked goods separately. timer with a delay, a loaf of 900 grams ...

Baba Yaga is against! Not a fig like that, except that the display is without backlight, but everything is visible perfectly! Even me. A misfire can be in any expensive Brand !!!

[Alexa13,]

ahhh, is this the culprit of the device fever in your kitchen ?! So cute!

Yes, I have it. Only after 2 years of active yuzanya, tavos ... old lady. The pressure cooker is my favorite now. You can conventionally sit back all day, and then cook dinner for the whole collective farm in an hour. And you , Alexa13, I see, just want her? : spiteful: Well, you have willpower! When you need a kick, call!

... A misfire can be in any expensive Brand !!!

+1

for me today, for example, the revelation of the day - skiing without baking

mind me

for me today, for example, the revelation of the day - skiing without baking

by the way, yes, really no baked goods. I do not know exactly how in the new models, but in the old one I had no separate "baked goods"! Although the stove itself is smart.