Elena Bo
Quote: astin2007

Didn't find a comparison between Brand and Khurom there
And what about hard fruits / vegetables - what can you advise?
Well, if you are satisfied with the price of Hurom, then you can take it and not bother. I'm not ready to pay that much.
It's too early to talk about the longevity of Brand 9100, since it has just appeared.
The horizontal ones seem very cumbersome to me. The vertical ones are very neat and take up little space.
astin2007
For the price, the upper limit is 14,000 rubles
And the occupied space is not an important criterion for me
Rita
Quote: astin2007

Didn't find a comparison between Brand and Khurom there
And what about hard fruits / vegetables - what can you advise?
I have - Coway - an exact copy of Khurom. Judging by the reviews of Brand users, it does not differ from my Kovey. Therefore, from Khurom.
Iruta
Quote: astin2007

Didn't find a comparison between Brand and Khurom there
And what about hard fruits / vegetables - what can you advise?
I already wrote somewhere that one of our compatriots asked an American company that produces Omega screw juicers (vertical and horizontal) the question of what is better to make carrot juice in large quantities? He was told that to make a large amount of juice it is better to use a centrifugal juicer (y) Of course, my Omega will grind a couple of carrots (cut) without any problems, but the juice will be with pulp, and not everyone likes this: (This should also be taken into account when buying . From different varieties of apples you get either juice or puree ...
Iruta
By the way, the Champion was highly praised from the horizontal augers. It has been released for a long time, Pakata there is such a juicer.
Verina Natalia
And what, everyone is amicably tied up with juices? It seems to be the season itself.

If anyone is interested - Philips 1871/10 (with a power of 1000 watts) appeared on sale

I made juice from a couple of apples with a medium-sized orange. Almost full mug. Despite the fact that behind the hectic working day, sweltering heat, and the box with the juicer had to be dragged quite far, the eyes opened, the energy boiled. Probably, closer to the night it was necessary to build some kind of carrot thread.
Oca
Quote: Verina Natalia

And what, everyone is amicably tied up with juices? It seems to be the season itself.
Duc apples at a price 2 times surpassed oranges In winter and spring, you could buy 20 rubles, but now ... A small scatter can only be put on a charlotte, the juice from it is nonexistent, but I’m curing carrots anyway))
Verina Natalia
Oca yes God is with them, with expensive fruits. Are carrots and beets, too, with price tags in diamond chips? Yesterday my girls thrashed vegetable juice just on the way!
Yesterday in the instructions I found a plate on the content of vitamins / trace elements in vegetables and was impressed. Fruits and berries will have poorer lists.
The same beet is a good source of folic acid, fiber, Vitamin C and potassium (and also normalizes cranial pressure in folk medicine), Brussels sprouts - vitamins C. B, B6, folic acid, fiber. Cabbage - Vitamin C, folate, potassium, vitamin B6, and fiber. Carrots - vitamins A, C, B6 and fiber. Celery - Vitamin C and Fiber. Tomatoes - Vitamin C, Fiber, Vitamin E, Folic Acid, and Vitamin A.
Well this is just lovely!
lemusik
How is it, how is it - tied up with juices?
Despite the high cost of fruit, I make juice every day).
Today there was little time in the morning, so I didn't bother peeling the oranges, I made juice from apples and cucumbers with ginger.
Very tasty!

My daughter and granddaughter have moved away from me, and now I press the juice into a glass, not into a jug. And I drink, accordingly, with all the foam. Very happy)))

By the way, I have already bought my daughter a juicer - 1869/31, power 900, the lower part of the case is white). She dealt with her yesterday, stinging orange juice for her beloved)))
So we already have two Filki working daily)))
Verina Natalia
Oh, and I don't peel the oranges. I first rip off the zest from them with a grater, since hot days are standing - dry, then I leave for baking.
lemusik
I will try this without scraping. But the white layer seems to be bitter too ... Right now, I'm just making juice for myself - I'll conduct an experiment.
Although this will not speed up the process, of course - it is very convenient to peel oranges with a Berner vegetable peeler. But the cucumber is still faster - washed it and press yourself)))
innaell
Girls (and boys), help me make a choice!
Before the season of tomatoes, I look at the juicers to close the tomato juice.
Tell me which models to look towards? What is the best way to accomplish this goal?
I would like to get thick juice, without skins, and not just twisted tomatoes or pink water and a bucket of wet cake
And which model is best for large volumes of work? After all, a glass of juice for lunch and 50 liters for the winter are two different things ...

Or maybe in this case you can save money and buy a 2-in-1 device - a meat grinder with a juice attachment?
mowgli
And I have a juicer of Soviet times - in 84, my dad bought my mom for rehabilitation after cancer surgery, doctors said that the benefits of vegetable juices are 1000 times more than from black caviar. So my juicer drives the juice so that the cake is like sawdust, there is no phlegm at all !!!! I have never met such people! So much for the USSR at the dawn of decay
Verina Natalia
innaell Phillips definitely doesn't fit. Divides tomatoes into pink almost transparent water and cake. True, the water is unusually tasty. I will not say anything about the usefulness - everything is clear.

A small OFF for the topic: the second week my juice contains beets (carrots, apples) - my varicose "grape bunches" have decreased by half. Of course, I hoped, but did not expect such a quick result, honestly.
Svetta
Quote: innaell

Girls (and boys), help me make a choice!
Before the season of tomatoes, I look at the juicers to close the tomato juice.
Tell me which models to look towards? What is the best way to accomplish this goal?
I would like to get thick juice, without skins, and not just twisted tomatoes or pink water and a bucket of wet cake
And which model is best for large volumes of work? After all, a glass of juice for lunch and 50 liters for the winter are two different things ...

Or maybe in this case you can save money and buy a 2-in-1 device - a meat grinder with a juice attachment?
With so much tomato juice, the Soviet Mriya harvester produced by the Dnepropetrovsk plant YuMZ (rocket-building plant!) Will do the best, only a tomato nozzle is needed. They are still being sold in the market, the price of a new one is 1600-1800 UAH !!! I bought a full used set in excellent condition at the city forum for UAH 200.
Ukka
Quote: Verina Natalia

the second week my juice contains beets (carrots, apples) - my varicose "grape bunches" have decreased by half. Of course, I hoped, but did not expect such a quick result, honestly.
Natasha, can you write the proportions? We also have varicose veins ...
Verina Natalia
ukka what a recipe! The beets are medium-sized, the apple is medium, the carrots are quite large, sometimes I add a celery stalk, and sometimes beets, a large cucumber and carrots. Now a young beet has gone, the root is small - I fill it with the tops of the juicer.
In general, search the Internet with a search engine on the topic of "freshly squeezed juices". A fascinating thing, I can tell you. Just read not only about what is useful, but also about what is harmful!
olaola1
But in my opinion, the instructions do not say that SV is intended for small amounts of juice. Even if you squeeze the juice for 10 minutes and then 10 minutes. break - all the same clogged. It's not about the amount of time, but the amount of the product. On the face of some kind of design flaw (this is my purely personal opinion).
Asya Klyachina
Girls, I have Mriya somewhere in the attic lying around with a screw nozzle. Please tell me how the juice is closed for the winter so that it does not go bad, or stick it in the recipe, link. I have never prepared juices. And in this season, for example, plums are unmeasured.
Verina Natalia
Drain the extracted juice, boil, pour into sterilized dry jars and roll up. By the way, I have adapted to sterilize cans in an airfryer (cleanly washed cans, even with water droplets on the walls on the wire rack, 3 minutes at 240 degrees - and order)
You can mix it with sugar before boiling. You can "evaporate" - you get a concentrated juice.
Slastena
Girls, help me, I want to buy a juicer, now I found in my city on Avito Philips 1871 the seller used it very rarely and used it in winter, the juicer is miniature, so the question is if it can handle a bucket of apples or only 2-3 glasses.
julifera
Quote: Slastena

Girls, help me, I want to buy a juicer, now I found in my city on Avito Philips 1871 the seller used it very rarely and used it in winter, the juicer is miniature, so the question is if it can handle a bucket of apples or only 2-3 glasses.

Comments under the video:
We drive 20 liters of juice with "rest" in 1.5 hours
Two bags of autumn apples make a bottle of 20 liters of pure juice


Slastena
julifera impressed by the video, the speed is really excellent, she can handle a bag of apples and in winter you can eat vegetables and fruits in cups
Verina Natalia
By the way, with the same Phillips model I squeezed juice from red currants. I threw the berries right with the green twigs - it squeezes out perfectly, the whole twigs in the container from the cake. The grapes are excellent. I think maybe I can drive the sea buckthorn through it? I will mix the juice with sugar and in jars, and I will freeze the cake in winter for compotes-jelly.
In general, at work almost every day. Not idle.
Asya Klyachina
I read it, caught fire in some places, bought a Philips HR 1871. This is certainly a beast, not a juicer. Translated all the apples in the garden. I’m wondering where to get fruit for it in winter. : pardon: It's good that I looked at the model with a citrus attachment alive and didn't buy it. There are so many plants that you need to have your own citrus plantation. Yet this juicer is very big bandurina and powerful. For gardening blanks is the most, and in the winter it is somehow troublesome to drive it for two cups, it is better to buy a small auger. Yes, and advice to those who think what to buy, the power of 700 watts would be quite enough, 1000 and 900 are even superfluous. The 700-watt models are also cheaper and a little smaller, and they will process anything into juice just as well.
julifera
Asya Klyachina - Congratulations!

But here I disagree:

Quote: Asya Klyachina

Yet this juicer is very big bandurina and powerful. For gardening blanks is the most, and in the winter it is somehow troublesome to drive it for two cups, it is better to buy a small auger.

Bandurins are those with a half-size juicer, these are bandurins, and this one is very neat

Filps disassembles instantly, washes quickly, if the fruits are not hyper-sized, then you can not cut them, but load them whole - and this is a decent saving of time and effort.
Augers give a different type of juice, puree, so this is not for everybody.
We bought a Zelmer auger for dad - it doesn't understand the height, and you can't hide it in any closet (and Phillips is a multi-tiered one, once and again he shoved it).
And for the sake of 2 glasses of juice, there is even more fuss with the auger! Because everything needs to be finely chopped!
And the last point - the auger washes no faster.

So I do not agree at all that it is troublesome to start 2 glasses of juice with Filia

And I want a second one, because it makes mashed potatoes even from not very juicy products, for example, from dried apples, such mashed potatoes are very tasty and have a delicate airy consistency.
The auger does a good job with grapes, and on Fillet I'm afraid of him, because I read the reviews that plastic broke some with tight bones, and someone else bent the teeth on the centrifuge.

Quote: Asya Klyachina

Yes, and advice to those who think what to buy, the power of 700 watts would be quite enough, 1000 and 900 even superfluous.The 700-watt models are also cheaper and a little smaller, and they will process anything into juice just as well.

The lower the power, the more juice will go into the cake.
The fact that our Fillet has a power of 1000 W - this is what allows us to get more juice.
If you want half of the fruit in the cake and the juice is cleaner - then yes - the low-power will handle it.

Quote: Asya Klyachina

I’m wondering where to get fruit for it in winter.

She squeezes oranges, grapefruits, lemon perfectly without any citrus attachment.
Our favorite juice in winter is 3-4 apples, 1-2 oranges, plus a slice of lemon.
Apples are always on sale in winter (or your own apples from the cellar of someone who has a plantation).

Rita
Something I didn't understand. Philips HR 1871 lists 800W.
Quote: julifera


The fact that our Fillet has a power of 1000 W - this is what allows us to get more juice.
What is the 1000W model?
Verina Natalia
Rita Juicer PHILIPS HR 1871/10 - it has 1000 watts.
julifera plastic cut me a tail from a pear, but the centrifuge is intact, and the grapes fly away with a bang even on twigs. The twigs are then in the cake receiver.

By the way, even for the sake of one morning glass of fruit and vegetable juice, it is completely relaxed for me to wash it. And now the children will go to school - in general, the sacred thing for breakfast is an apple-carrot to them asleep.
By the way, do you know that carrot juice perfectly relieves sore throats? Drew attention to this.
Rita
Thank you for your answer, Natasha!
Boom search :).
Verina Natalia
Rita, absolutely not at all. This model deserves a permanent place on the table (but not in the closet). She, by the way, and so it washes quite easily (if the girls made the juice for a day, damn it, go back !!! and didn’t say. I don’t allow washing myself - they are 9-12 years old, and the graters are sharp), but if you finish the juice race with carrots ( if it is included in the recipe) - generally only touched the side perforation of the grater with a sponge, first from the inside, then from the outside, rinsed it - and cleanly.
Yes, I really liked making red currant juice (I load it right with the branches). I also squeezed the juice from sea buckthorn (cake portions in bags - and in the freezer until winter compotes-jelly). I like the tomato juice: it is so sweet, and if you load elongated tomatoes (like ladies' fingers), you get not pink water, but a full-fledged, viscous, tasty juice.
And from vegetable oilcakes in dog bowls. None of my madams have white teeth like puppies.
julifera
Quote: Verina Natalia

I don't allow washing myself - they are 9-12 years old, and the graters are the sharpest ... - in general, I just touched the side perforation of the grater with a sponge, first from the inside, then from the outside, rinsed - and cleanly.

Hand your girls a brush - and no sharp teeth are scary
Verina Natalia
julifera scary for children's hands. They are not very skillful.
julifera
Girls, I was kind of sleepy in the morning, I didn't go to check how many watts my Watt had, but I remember that there was some kind of inconsistency - everywhere on the internet there was one power, and on the juicer itself another was written - higher.

There is also one more thing in my memory - I remember that half a year ago I came across information that Philips is releasing a new juicer 1873 with even more power - 1200 W, and the people with the 1871 model were perplexed - they say ours is 1000 W and so already takes off, much more.

And now I look in the internet - the new 73 model is everywhere listed as 1000-Watt, and ours as 800 W
Verina Natalia
julifera you need to look at the marking of the model. 1871 /00 - 800 W maximum, and 1871 /10 - 1000 W maximum. I bought 1871 /10
julifera
Quote: Verina Natalia

julifera plastic cut my tail from a pear, but the centrifuge is intact, and the grapes fly away with a bang even on twigs. The twigs are then in the cake receiver.

Fortunately, I always cut off all the tails, both from pears and apples.
In general, there was a sea of ​​pears this year, we were carrying buckets from the dacha, the pear is small, but very sweet, but the juice turned out to be tart, thick - it was hard to drink.
And the grapes are different, the seeds are also different, sometimes such bricks come across, which is scary.
We have 5-6 grape varieties at our dacha, and the smallest, most fragrant grapes have the most evil seeds.Well, there is a lot of it - it is completely entwined with a veranda and a balcony on the 2nd floor, we no longer risked and turned everything on the auger.
Quote: Verina Natalia

julifera you need to look at the marking of the model. 1871 /00 - 800 W maximum, and 1871 /10 - 1000 W maximum. I bought 1871 /10

Now I realized that I had exactly 1000 W
Svetta
Quote: julifera


The lower the power, the more juice will go into the cake.
The fact that our Fillet has a power of 1000 W - this is what allows us to get more juice.
If you want half of the fruit in the cake and the juice is cleaner - then yes - the low-power will handle it.
Julia, let me argue.
I had a juice extractor Rodnichok plant from Alexandria Kirovogr. region with power 200 watts. I processed a bucket of apples on it in 20 minutes !!! The cake was so dry that it was useless for further processing, I threw it away. I have been using this juicer since 1996, in 2011 it broke (some kind of plastic figurine inside). I bought a Scarlett juicer at 600 (or even 800 ???) W. FIGURES !!!!!!! The cake is so wet that I can squeeze out more juice with just my hand, I scroll it again after squeezing out the juice. And even after that, the cake is such that you can weld it and roll it up (but I throw it away).
So it is not power that affects the degree of juice extraction, but the number of revolutions per minute and especially the design of the sieve. On a cylindrical sieve, the juice yield is noticeably higher!
It is possible that the overall design of the Philips juicer is so successful that it produces dry cake.
julifera
There are only a few juicers like the Spring. I will even name one of the modern models - Panasonic MJ-M171 with a power of 230 W.

But I didn't mean them a little when I answered. The idea was a SV park with a modern design, convenient and easy to maintain, and that the same Philips with a reverse sieve, but with a power of 700 W, would give a wetter cake.

Here is a friend of mine at work - with his wife he set his sights on the Zelmer 377 Julita, he thought my Philips was huge and very expensive. I wanted a smaller SV and cheaper - well, I got it - he is not satisfied with the squeezing of the juice, the cake is very wet.
julifera
Quote: svetta

I had a juice extractor Rodnichok plant from Alexandria Kirovogr. region with power 200 watts.

By the way, my parents have an analogue of Rodnichka - a Belarusian-made SVPP-301 juicer, with shredders, with suction cup legs, 250 W. At the time when they bought it, she was the hardiest and could drive juice continuously for 8 hours or even more.
But they took it in reserve, because the main work was carried out on the Mriya with a centrifugal nozzle, and this Belarusian miracle has been worthless for many years already, they also bought the Zelmer screw ...

As a result, dad says that he likes my Phillips more than any of the centrifuges

Svetta
Quote: julifera

By the way, my parents have an analogue of Rodnichka - a Belarusian-made SVPP-301 juicer, with shredders, with suction cup legs, 250 W. At the time when they bought it, she was the hardiest and could drive juice continuously for 8 hours or even more.
But they took it in reserve, because the main work was carried out on the Mriya with a centrifugal nozzle, and this Belarusian miracle has been worthless for many years already, they also bought the Zelmer screw ...

As a result, dad says that he likes my Phillips more than any of the centrifuges

I also have Mriya, I can compare my all 3. The fontanelle drives! a pity that I rested in the Bose.
julifera
Quote: svetta

I also have Mriya, I can compare my all 3. The fontanelle drives! a pity that I rested in the Bose.

Shine - and the new fontanelles are not like that? It seems inexpensive - around only 400 UAH
Svetta
Quote: julifera

Shine - and the new fontanelles are not like that? It seems inexpensive - around only 400 UAH
Julia, did not look new, now you can buy Kharkiv Rosinka, very similar. My former employee, a far from poor person, used only it, 3-4 years ago I changed the juicer ... for the same one !!!
But the amount is 400 UAH. for me now it is more than relevant, with my pension ... Therefore, I will use what is left, we make juices only for a large harvest of apples, but it is not every year.
Verina Natalia
Regarding Phillips 1871, if you want to look at a couple of links: a comparative analysis of Phillips and Zelmer, and Phillips 1871 are loaded professionally. English, but everything is very clear.
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Asya Klyachina
Oh, they scared about the bones. Yesterday I squeezed apples - OAK are simple and juicy, I have such a variety of winter ones that you can eat only by the New Year when they lie down. So the juicer roared and shook like a rocket at the start. So scary of what has become, everything is spinning there at a breakneck speed, so I think if the plastic scatters ... I already thought that she was trying to break somehow. But I checked on cucumbers, everything is fine. I cut the apples into 4 pieces. The juice squeezed out even from these.
julifera
I press apples at a lower speed, then it does not jump so much, although it is recommended to press the second.
AILIN
Oh girls, help me, I can't decide what to buy: Panasonic MJ-W171 or PHILIPS HR 1871/10. I know that I was not alone in this dilemma. Both are good, both are praised. I saw only PHILIPS live: a wide throat for serving, there is a jug with a skimmer, it can be disassembled and assembled easily, the design is interesting, well, maybe a little too high for me and due to the round shape it will not be everywhere, Panasonic has a narrow neck (I don’t know whether this is a drawback or not ) and there is no jug for collecting juice, but cheaper by $ 50 + a blender (but this is not important, since I already have a blender), but I could not see it live. Which one to buy ...?
julifera
Quote: AILIN

Oh girls, help me, I can't decide what to buy: Panasonic MJ-W171 or PHILIPS HR 1871/10. I know that I was not alone in this dilemma. Both are good, both are praised. I saw only PHILIPS live: a wide throat for feeding, disassembled and assembled easily, the design is interesting, well, maybe a little too tall for me and due to the round shape it will not be everywhere, in my opinion the knife is not replaceable, it is riveted tightly, some manufacturers have screws (probably there is a possibility of replacement) Panasonic is cheaper by $ 50 + blender (but this is not important, since I already have a blender), but I could not see it live. Which one to buy ...?

We can only suggest, but the final choice is still yours.
There is a video on Phillips on the previous pages, but look at how Panasonic disassembles and washes, and its power is 230 watts versus 1000 watts of Phillips, and it never jumps or takes off on the table like an airplane.
In general, Panas is monstrous and reliable! But for me, for example, tinkering with Phillips is much easier and faster.
AILIN
Can you please tell me if the skimmer is important, or not to bother?
julifera
Quote: AILIN

Can you please tell me if the skimmer is important, or not to bother?

As for me, it is not so important, I almost always mix it, and then pour it. If it is, it's nice, of course, but not critical.
Verina Natalia
Skimmer - if it weren't there, I wouldn't even bother. But there is - let it be. I consider a wide throat a much more necessary device, as well as ease of cleaning.
AILIN
Thanks for the skimmer, I understand. But in terms of the simplicity of washing, these SVs seem to be both convenient ...

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