-Elena-
Quote: an_domini

And I have a question about juicers: on which one can you put whole apples with seeds and drive the juice continuously?
When I was making juice on Zhuravinka, where I had to cut apples in half, I realized that it was necessary to do this, because very often apples with worms. And they definitely need to be removed. So, there are Bork and Philips juicers for whole apples, but imported ones, where there are no worms. Hence the conclusion: such juicers are needed if you have an exemplary garden with trees processed from livestock. But that's just my opinion ...
Olgushechka81
Juicer (selection, discussion, reviews)

I have such a model of a juicer, our family really likes it, we are happy. The cake is almost dry, even from tomatoes.
Summer resident
With juicers for a couple of glasses of juice, everything is more or less clear, but for giving, who will advise what besides Zhuravlinka?
Lydia
Summer resident, with advice I have tight, but that's what "Zhuravinku" I will not recommend, so that's for sure. I remember her with a shudder: both roar and jumping on the table ...

And I also have a question. What to look for when checking a juicer in a store? Completeness and does not work? The fact is that I am going to order from / to Panasonic in an online store, my daughter will be picking up from the pick-up point, and she requires exact instructions. With HP it's easier, now I myself can instruct anyone, but here I get lost like a savage in front of a gramophone ...
Scarecrow
I want an Angel juicer. I want her for two months. It stands like a bomber (finally, some unrealistic figures of 45 thousand), but everything is so great in the video. Discourage me. This is ruin. Otherwise, I will want her further and will raise money for such a miracle of technology.

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Tell me anything: that fruits are healthier with your teeth, that you don't use juicers. well, at least something, because for that kind of money you can hang yourself.
Tanyusha
Scarecrow before discouraging you, tell me how often you will make juice?
fugaska
Scarecrow, I have a juicer, even two (one regular, and the second citrus). juices are a useful thing, BUT! when you chew with your teeth, you need to wash the actual fruit itself, and then throw away the stub. I will keep silent about the usefulness of massage for the gums. now a juicer: collect this miracle, wash the fruit, cut it to the size that will fit into the hole, hum (the most pleasant thing in principle), and then the most interesting thing - you need to wash this infection! and not only her, but also the dishes from which they will drink (after all, you will not only enjoy vitamins, the crowd will also come running). And if the toad starts to crush, what is in the cake (well, what remains after the juice) is a bunch of useful things? smart thoughts will begin to swarm in the brains, on the subject "how to dispose of the leftovers and make waste-free production?"
Well, has the process of giving up the desire to buy started?
IRR
Well, girls! ; -D Have a conscience, do not dissuade quite from juicers - natural juices, not juices from tetra packs - that's a lot !. Dissuade from the dear who Scarecrow dug. I have Moulinex - for 100 bucks - with a wide throat - you can shove apples entirely, but I don't do it - they still need to be peeled. We do not drink juices all the time, but when the season is now, for example, apples, pears, grapes, quince - everything goes! Natakha Scarecrow!! And why is she so remarkable? What kind of money!
Rina
For that kind of money, she has to peel the fruit herself, cut it, squeeze the juice, pour it into cups in portions, then wash herself and sort herself out. And one more thing ... you will spend the takin 'amount, and there may not be any money left for fruit juice.With an ordinary juicer (well, you can find a really good one for 100-170 bucks), you will also be provided with fruits for a year or two with this amount, either ordinary or exotic.
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I watched part of the advertising video.
1. There is nothing to cost that kind of money.
2. If this thing is so cool, then in half a year or a year there will be analogues for more reasonable money.

And one more thing ... in the same cake that contains fiber (and here it is thrown away), which accounts for at least half of the usefulness of the same apple.
IRR
Quote: Rina72

For that kind of money, she has to peel the fruit herself, cut it, squeeze the juice, pour it into cups in portions, then wash and sort out herself.
Namesake! You've described my most explicit sexual fantasy now

shl. get better, druhh - do not hurt! Drink juice
Gypsy
Quote: Rina72


And one more thing ... in the same cake that contains fiber (and here it is thrown away), which accounts for at least half of the usefulness of the same apple.
therefore it is better to shove fruit into a blender
k.alena
Personally, I am in all these devices sold through TV advertising, but non-brand, except for the fabulous price (which does not include the cost and profit for development, but also the entire promotion of goods "without a name") is greatly strained by the lack of service. Maybe it will last 1000 years and not break ... what if? Well, all these arguments that this spin is better than that are somehow not very convincing. Where is there in the centrifugal that gets so hot to destroy vitamins? Still, one can agree that juicers with a wide mouth are more convenient (although as I noticed IRR, somehow the whole does not really want to shove there). And here IMHO IMHO - a divorce for money, pure water
fugaska
Now imagine if this golden juicer suddenly breaks down? you can immediately in the loop ...)))))))))))))))))))))
Little scarecrow, did you make a little excuse?
Scarecrow
Quote: tanya1962

Scarecrow before discouraging you, tell me how often you will make juice?

I bought a centrifugal and expensive one, immediately started using it actively, but ... bullshit. A bunch of juice in the cake. This is wasteful and pointless. I'd rather eat them this way. And on this one (she's Korean, by the way), I read the reviews. They say that the cake can be set on fire. It is completely dry. Squeezes out everything. Even from pine needles.
IRR
I watched the video - the usual blah blah blah ... live juice, etc.
Quote: Scarecrow

They say that the cake can be set on fire. It is completely dry. Squeezes out everything. Even from pine needles.
Well, if you are going to drink pine needles, then yes ... although, Natus, wait a minute! I have a forest strip nearby, maybe mine is squeezing out, but I don't know .... In short, they position such a price - like, it will pay off on raw materials. I do not believe! More power, dry cake - more more squeezing out nitrates.
Hairpin
Scarecrow!
1. The fact that natural juices are useful is a philosophical question. All fiber will be left behind in the cake. And you will set fire exactly to the fiber.
2. To wash the juicer - this is almost the whole dishwasher ...
3.45 thousand ... This is a technique for life ... And your children will use it ... And grandchildren ... We will buy new models here (a juicer combined with a noodle maker and a bread maker), and you will sit with yours, because you paid 45 thousand for it ... Yes, with this money you could buy two cuckoos in those days ... or 5 Panasonic bread machines ...
4. Did you look at the weight? Well this is EVERYTHING !!! Get it from table to table ... Muscle training, however ...
fugaska
Quote: Hairpin

Scarecrow!
3.45 thousand ... We will buy new models here (a juicer combined with a noodle maker and a bread maker), and you will sit with yours for decades, because you paid 45 thousand for it ... Yes, this money could be bought in those two cuckoo times ... or 5 Panasonic bread machines ...
a great reason to refuse such an expensive purchase !!! Hairpin, 5 points !!! )))))))))))))
Scarecrow
IRR

Forest belt, you say? I'm coming to you with a juicer !! What kind of forest belt do you have? I can offer you acorn and oak juice!

Hairpin

Yes, yes. They say that a lot of juices are also harmful (I forgot why).The best product is whole, along with fiber. And she needs a stationary place, she is heavy.
And the impossibility of buying something else and new for a long time (my husband will knock) is a very strong argument, because I love everything new and bigger.
Gypsy
Quote: Scarecrow

Yes, yes. They say that a lot of juices are also harmful (I forgot why). The best product is whole, along with fiber.
there is a lot of acid, the stomach eats away at the teeth. When you chew fruit, saliva is released, everything is mixed in the mouth and the digestible mass enters the stomach. And juices - a bunch of concentrated acid in the stomach .. and you digest. The human stomach is not adapted to such food, it is not natural .. there is no fruit juice in nature
fugaska
Scarecrow, and haven't you tried fresh mushrooms yet? they can even be shoved into a blender !!! )))))))))))))))))))))))))
IRR
Quote: gypsy

The human stomach is not adapted to such food, it is not natural .. there is no fruit juice in nature
Gypsy! I do not understand? Are you against juices? But what about juice treatment and recommendations for small children to juice to saturate the growing body with microelements? And for the binding of free radicals, i.e. prevention of cancer, etc.? Don't eat so many apples - it will swell! And a glass of juice - squelched in itself and order! I'm not saying that 3 times a day and not every day. I agree that there is a lot of conflicting information on juices. But, when in moderation, is it possible? A Scarecrow, wants too much Buy a juicer for one and a half pieces! Our deuce cost - 2 such squeezers and we drove it!
Quote: Scarecrow

ABOUT! Many thanks to all who participated! I was seriously relieved.
Yes, not at all! You are ... come, if anything!

Gypsy
Quote: IRR

Gypsy! I do not understand? Are you against juices?
you need to dilute

in Israel, very often children in two years already have crowns on their teeth - from juices.
Scarecrow
Quote: IRR

Gypsy! I do not understand? Are you against juices? But what about juice treatment and recommendations for small children to juice to saturate the growing body with microelements? And for the binding of free radicals, i.e. prevention of cancer, etc.? Don't eat so many apples - it will swell! And a glass of juice - squelched in itself and order! I'm not saying that 3 times a day and not every day. I agree that there is a lot of conflicting information on juices. But, when in moderation, is it possible? A Scarecrow, wants too much Buy a juicer for one and a half pieces! Our deuce cost - 2 such squeezers and we drove it!

Stop shaming me in front of people. I have already dissuaded. I'd better buy a rumba for myself. With a scuba.

The main arguments were: constantly eating a lot of juice is still not useful, I will not buy myself another new toy; very heavy, she needs a permanent place.

And also you turned out very well in the photo. Fascinating.
lina
Juicer? It is necessary only if there are plantations and under the motto "fight against the harvest" you need to roll up juice from a couple / three hundredweight. Well, or tiny and quite inexpensive for pampering.
IRR
Quote: Lina

Juicer? Needed only if there are plantations and under the motto "fight against the harvest"
+1. If you also buy fruts (a juicer - buy, buy them, complete bankruptcy in the near future)
dopleta
Oh, well, with the last of her strength, she was silent so that they would not be written down as drunks. I used a juicer to turn apples into calvados! And I drank a lot of different fresh! And I won't let her hait! Is there no juice in nature? Does milk flow in the river? Both have always been mined. And in Soviet times, children’s teeth also deteriorated from an early age, although no one poured fresh juice for them! To whom acid is harmful - you can dilute or make mixtures, but in any case, the benefits of them are much greater.
IRR
Quote: dopleta

Oh, well, with the last bit of strength I was silent, so that they would not be written down as drunks. I used a juicer to turn apples into Calvados!
How useful it is to live in the country in the summer! And Calvados is bulging and there is no special supervision
Pakat
Scarecrow, Tusya, I already wrote, more than once, that centrifuges are not juicers, I myself have been using Champion for many years, but now there is better,
look - !
If I was buying now, I would buy this type ...
Ukka
Quote: Scarecrow

I want an Angel juicer.
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I went in and I watched the video about the Angel ...

My Gamma has such a nozzle, I haven’t tried hard vegetables and fruits, but it’s pressing berries and tomatoes at a run, no worse than an Angel ... And it costs 2,000 Russian rubles ...

Quote: dopleta

The juice is squeezed out and fermented, and you need to use special wine yeast and special "nutrients" - my husband bought all this from the St. Petersburg company "Doctor Guber", then the resulting cider is distilled twice (IRR almost right about moonshine), and then for several months it is kept in bottles with oak shavings, which are closed with a punctured rubber glove. It seems so. If you are not scared, I will find out everything from my husband thoroughly and put it somewhere in drinks.

When I had my own garden, we also made cider, there was no time left for the barrel ...
Scarecrow
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zvezda, this name is Hurom Slow Juicer, watch mulberries:

My mother is in skates on her bare feet! Pakat, I like that. I had no idea about such a simple and cool toy. She left to study.

Centrifuges are bullshit. Mine, at least. I do not like.

On ibey, it costs 16500-17200 without delivery. not a penny, of course, but not 45,000, like some.
Pakat
Scarecrow, zvezda, see the voltage of the juicer if you order, otherwise you will have to buy a transformer, the voltage in the Merck is 120 volts ...
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US $ 369.95 + US $ 96.25 to Russian Federation ~ 440 bucks ...
an_domini
Again about juicers! There are a lot of apples this year. The son made a furious cut of them for Sadovaya and bought Neptune (Stavropol) for the whole. I didn’t take the imported one not because of the money, but because they do not stand up to long-term work, well, they are not designed for a centner of apples: our friends have already broken two. Neptune weighs 10 kg and works like a beast, it has automatic self-cleaning. But! There is a lot of pulp in the juice, you have to filter and use the remaining puree for jam. There is an assumption that this is precisely due to the fact that the apples are placed whole so that the seeds do not break, the pressing is more gentle. Has anyone faced such a problem? I would like clear juice right away!
I'm afraid that juicers are somehow not visible in the "Juice cooker" theme. Maybe you should open a separate topic? Moderators, what do you think?
an_domini
Summer resident, about squeezing juice on an industrial scale is very important! With the help of Lika, I finally got on this branch, I have been struggling with the harvest for the whole September - there are a lot of apples this year!
Imported juicers, even if they are designed for a whole apple, do not work for a long time, and are also designed to get 1-2 glasses to drink at once, my friend has already broken two, one piece per season. The son bought Sadovaya first. It presses well, really fast and a lot, there is a waste of cake. But you have to cut the apples. After processing 80 kg, he went on strike and bought Neptune for whole apples. This is quickness! Throwing whole washed apples one after another, we got 18 liters of juice per hour without stopping. After an hour, it is supposed to take a break of 10 minutes. The instructions say 120 kg of apples per hour, but you can't put them into the juicer at such a speed. But it squeezes worse than Sadovaya, it is necessary to filter the juice, the leftovers went to jam. So I would like to consult with people who have the same problems - processing apples into juice on a large scale.
an_domini
Domestic centrifugal juicers are designed for long-term continuous operation and can process up to 60 kg of apples per hour, some of them can even chop vegetables for salad or make mashed potatoes. The only big advantage of these noisy and heavy units is their real performance and versatility.
Juicers of foreign production are absolutely not designed for the scale of Russian preparations for future use. They are geared towards daily use: squeeze and drank.
From personal experience:
on "Sadovaya" for 1 hour, 30 liters of juice was made from pre-cut apples, they did not filter, they removed the foam by boiling.
on "Neptune" for 1 hour 18 liters of whole apples.It could be faster, but Neptune gives juice with a lot of pulp, it was filtered through cheesecloth, the rest was used for jam. If you work very quickly on Neptune, there is more pulp in the juice. But apples do not need to be cut, for large volumes this is essential.
There is also "Rossoshanka", but it does not have an automatic discharge of cake, it must be stopped and cleaned. Has anyone tried it?
dopleta
I connect to the topic. There are two juicers (not counting the attachments for the electric mincer for citrus fruits) - Tefal for chopped apples and Daewoo for whole ones with automatic rejection and a cake accumulator. Daewoo has been working for more than one year, and apples are processed in buckets at a time. But the disadvantage is the same - the pulp is in the juice. It seems to me that this does not depend on the squeezer, since the holes in the sieve are microscopic, but on the type of apples - from the stronger ones and the juice is more transparent.
an_domini
dopleta , and what kind of drum does Daewoo have, cylindrical or conical?
Neptune has a conical, pulp in the juice more than Sadovaya. Sadovaya has a cylindrical one.
Of course, the quality of the squeezed juice depends on the apple variety. Antonovka's juice is clear, while the Autumn striped juice is cloudy and in a juicer.
magenta
Can't juice with pulp be canned or just don't like it?
Still interesting about Neptune. Is the cake not very wet after it? Has anyone seen her in Ukraine?
an_domini
magenta , of course, it is possible with pulp, but I don't like it. This is how I solved the problem: after squeezing, the juice is passed through cheesecloth, mashed potatoes settle on it, which can be boiled (with or without sugar) and closed in jars, it turns out like jam.
I don’t use cake, because juice is squeezed out of whole apples, it contains seeds. There is no point in distilling it the second time, the spin is good.
magenta
Quote: an_domini

There is also "Rossoshanka", but it does not have an automatic discharge of cake, it must be stopped and cleaned. Has anyone tried it?
I subscribe to the question. I read that the quality of Neptune's pressing is worse than that of Rossoshanka because of the automatic rejection of the cake, that is, Neptune is more convenient, and Rossoshanka squeezes better. Has anyone used both juicers?
WILY
We had an apple year last year. A friend of mine made a device for chopping apples for an electric plane, and a press from an old washing machine. For himself, in 2 days he processed 400 kg of apples, and all the neighbors went to him and made juice.
magenta
In general, we bought "Rodnichok". From 6 buckets of not too good apples, the volunteers squeezed out 16 liters of juice, it took 4 hours, stopped and washed the strainer several times. The device is just a beast! Apples need to be cut in half, we did not peel the seeds. Disadvantages - noise, vibration, and cake, in my opinion, is too wet.
an_domini
Yesterday I squeezed juice with "Neptune", compared different varieties of apples:
1.a lot of pulp from Autumn striped (Streyfling, Shtrifel)
2. very pure juice from Antonovka, there is very little pulp when filtering through cheesecloth.
Conclusion: it is more profitable to squeeze juice from winter varieties of apples and much faster.
"Neptune" is a thing !!! very quickly and you don't need to cut anything, just wash the apples. You just need not to suffer with summer and dessert varieties, they are better in a juicer.
magenta
And I don't even know what kinds of apples we have, which ones are winter, which are summer ... We already got the house with the garden. In general, you are right, it will be necessary to analyze the apples from which trees are most suitable for juice. And I'm starting to think about the press ...
Lydia
Girls, I understand that I am not reporting anything new ... But I want to sing a short ode to the Panasonic juicer, share my new happiness (I only have it for a couple of weeks). I get a kick not only from juices, but also from how it works, how it is washed and disassembled and assembled. Before her, I once had Zhuravinka. True, comparing these two squeezers is like comparing a caveman's club to something made with nanotechnology. Special thanks to Anastasia - thanks to her, I figured out what's what and decided to buy.
LiudmiLka
Lydia, can it process a lot of hard fruits at a time? At least one bucket.The fact is that I have Zhuravinka, whom I am happy with and advised one of our members of the forum as a good workhorse. And I'm very worried that she won't like it. Moreover, it was bought from me for a long time, but I don't know about the current quality ...
Lydia
Somewhere in the subject was about it. Theoretically, this is not very convenient to do, since the cake is not thrown out, but remains inside (unlike Zhuravinka). But somewhere I read how a sack of apples was processed: they simply stopped the squeezer, cleaned the cake, collected it again and started it up. She had time to cool down during such breaks. And in general - if you like Zhuravinka - thank God, I was not lucky with her. But generally, Panasonic is not designed to process a large amount of vegetables and fruits. At least I understood so.
Lydia
By the way, I had a Zhuravinka not of "current quality", but 15 years ago.
Begemot133
Quote: LiudmiLka

Lydia, can it process a lot of hard fruits at a time?

True, I'm not Lydia, but I also have a Panasonic juicer. I can say that I processed a bucket of apples on it. Stopped when it was necessary to throw away the cake. Even last year, 20 liters of apricot juice was closed. True, it is problematic to make juice from apricots, since the juice turns out to be rather thick and flows poorly. Well, you can't stop us with that. The way out was found - we load apricots, then pour a little water, then again apricots-water. It turned out quite well. Slightly, of course, it flows down, but the motor in the Panas is well protected from this. After half a bucket, it is recommended to check
magenta
This year I closed 4 liters of apple juice on Tefal Eleo and 24 liters on Rodnichka. So, it is possible to process a bucket of apples on imported juicers, but the labor costs for disassembly-cleaning-washing are several times higher. And the quality of pressing on cylindrical juicers, in comparison with conical ones, is better. At the same time, in my opinion, domestic monsters are not intended for everyday use. Their purpose is seasonal preparations, for a glass of juice in the morning you need to have an imported one. IMHO.
I have a suggestion to post a photo of our juicers in disassembled form so that you can see what needs to be washed in them, and a photo of juice and cake in order to evaluate the quality of the extraction. When I was choosing my juicer, I missed such reviews.
Begemot133
Quote: magenta

So, it is possible to process a bucket of apples on imported juicers, but the labor costs for disassembly-cleaning-washing are several times higher.

As for labor costs - Panasonic has a very large one, as for me, plus - the mesh can be cleaned on the go without disassembling the juicer for this. There is a hole and a toothbrush type, but with a water tank.

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