elka34
mowgli, Natasha, not yet, after a long debate with her husband, it was decided first of all to buy a refrigerator and a hob, PMM - on a leftover basis, since her husband weight more authority, I had to accept. In any case, we plan to buy it in early June, now there is nowhere to put it, the builders have not finished finishing it. 22-24 sput. This is also the price of the issue for me, I can no longer spend on PMM.
Sonadora
Quote: mowgli

elka34, have you looked after the thread?
I watched Bosch, Beko, Kandy, Ariston. Kandy, well, a copy of my Kaiser, I will not take it, I see one Chinese is releasing it, I would take Bosch, I’ll go the other day, if they give me a loan, I’ll take it. Bosh-24, Kandy and Beko-22 thous.
Mowgli, Natasha, did Siemens look? They are almost identical to Bosch, a little cheaper, the assembly is German. Mine is two years old, the flight is normal.

PS I here in the store PMM Miles liked, only "some" 150 thousand - and she's yours. Eh, even dream ...
elka34
Quote: Sonadora
PS I here in the store PMM Miles liked, only some 150 thousand - and she's yours. Eh, at least dream ..
My inner toad lies in a deep swoon. This "mile" in his free time from washing dishes plays Schubert's symphonies and embroiders with a cross ???
mowgli
And Chuchelka said that there is more name in Mila, but the quality, at least her washing machines are the same as others, so she said, do not bother with expensive
elka34
Looked at Siemens, we offer a full-size one for 54 sput., Two narrow models for 23 and 25 sput. Expensive, consider only full-size.
Olga VB
Quote: elka34
My inner toad lies in a deep swoon. This "mile" in his free time from washing dishes plays Schubert's symphonies and embroiders with a cross ???
Len, the one on which I laid eyes, staboutit 99,900, and before the whistle with prices it could be bought for 60tyr.
So let your toad move, so that mine lies next to ...
elka34
Quote: mowgli
And Chuchelka said that there is more name in Mila, but the quality, at least her washing machines are the same as others, so she said, do not bother with expensive
I believe Chuchelka, she is smart!
Erhan
Quote: Ninelle

Now I have Bosch, my mother says that she liked BEKO more ... Lottery?
Not a lottery. Just before, the quality of Beko-Arçelik products was much higher. What was acquired a long time ago still works great. My dishwasher of this brand is 16 years old, it works every day. I can't even imagine how old my mother-in-law was, but not less than 30 for sure. So she washes like a beast, I'm even afraid of her - she washed the stuffing from the fabric for me a couple of times.
Well, what is being produced in recent years, even their service workers criticize. So now, when I buy something, I don't even consider Beko as an option.
* Anyuta *
Quote: Ninelle
that she liked BEKO more ... Lottery
No, not a lottery ....
I fully agree with Svetochka Erhan,
Quote: Erhan
Just before, the quality of Beko-Arçelik products was much higher.

Now go in and read the topic of breakdowns .. that's all ...
mowgli
* Anyuta *, Hi! Which one did you take in the end? How's it work?
mowgli
Annutka, what kind of car did you take?
Annutka
Quote: mowgli

Annutka, what kind of car did you take?

Natasha, now I have Siemens SN66M094, insert, 60 cm.
Delait
Quote: Annutka
now I have Siemens SN66M094, built-in, 60 cm.
this is considered one of the most successful models. When I was choosing myself, I shoveled a bunch of information. , and she came across everywhere in the recommendations, but we did not have this one on sale. I took the same Siemens, but a little different, very happy!
elka34
Quote: Annutka
now I have Siemens SN66M094, built-in, 60 cm.
Very good reviews on it, and it is very straightforward, but the cost is 53,400 rubles.
Sonadora
elka34, and there are no stocks in stores with equipment now?
* Anyuta *
Quote: mowgli
* Anyuta *, hello! Which one did you take in the end? How's it work?
Indesite. As for me, she washes not only by an order of magnitude, but by several orders of magnitude better than VEKO
notka_notka
mowgli, Natasha, bought a PMM? I have a Bosch 45 cm installation for 3 years.I like it very much :) Happy shopping for you
mowgli
notka_notka, thanks, next week I'm getting ready to buy
notka_notka
mowgli, Natasha, Boshika ??? What size? Our relatives just took a full-size Bosch inset .. She's soooooo cool !!! With blue backlight inside, with full digital and symbolic indication on the floor. What a miracle! Mine, too, with an indication, but only with a red ray on the floor, it's still convenient))) good shopping for you, let the assistant be only for joy
elka34
Sonadora, Man there is an action - "recycling" - hand over something unnecessary and you will happiness a discount, as many as 2 thousand, not an option, I think I'll take something budgetary, if anything, I'll change it in a couple of years, finish building a house, distribute debts, and then we'll see.
dili
Hello everyone! 2 weeks ago we bought a BOSCH 60cm installation. SMV 65M30Ru. The first pmm, I hope it will last a long time. Of course, a little expensive, 45 thousand. given with all sorts of bonuses together. With a ray, 1/2 load, the boxes can be rearranged. Washes well. So far I only use powder, rinse aid and salt. I haven't tried the pills. It's good that we didn't take 45cm rmm. There are 5 of us. the dishes are instantly assembled. I start to forget what it's like to stand by the sink and wash dishes for hours
louisa
dili, congratulations)) I have the same, at first I could not establish contact with her, then we understood each other and now I love her with tender love
dili
Quote: louisa

dili, congratulations)) I have the same, at first I could not establish contact with her, then we understood each other and now I love her with tender love
Thank you! What was wrong with you? Suddenly it will be useful to me Well, I washed the saucepans, shine, even changed my mind to throw it away. Do not wash yourself to a shine, forks "centennial" sparkle
dili
How do you feel about the chemistry used in PMM? I always have the feeling that it still remains on the dishes, there is a slight smell, but then, after cooling the dishes, it disappears. The dishes glisten and squeak. Maybe I'm winding myself up? I use Finish (powder), Somat rinse.
louisa
dili, this is because of the Finish, try another remedy and immediately see the difference
Quote: dili
What was wrong with you?
yes, like everyone else, while I got used to it, the quality of washing did not suit, then there were stripes, then there were smudges, while I set it up, while I picked up the product, now I am happy
dili
Quote: louisa

dili, this is because of the Finish, try another remedy and you will immediately see the difference, like everyone else, while she got used to it, the quality of washing was not satisfied, then there were stripes, then there were smudges, while I adjusted, while I picked up the product, now I am happy
Thank you! I'll try!
Galina Abr
Good evening. Your advice is very necessary. I was presented with PMM DSG 2637 45 cm. Can I install it in a kitchen set, is there a suitable compartment 50 cm wide, under the countertop and with a false panel? The furniture has already been installed, but the PMM came out separately and much later .. So I want them to somehow come together ... I really hope for your help. This is my first PMM.
gala10
Quote: Galina Abr
Can I install it in a kitchen set, there is a suitable compartment 50 cm wide
And my PMM is exactly so installed.
Gata
Galina, Indesite? It goes everywhere as a free-standing one, so that in extreme cases it can only be inserted under the tabletop, but it is unlikely to be closed with a panel. It does not provide a place for mounting a bezel. If the depth of the headset allows - only the door.
Galina Abr
Good evening, Yes, I have Indesit. And the depth of the headset is 60 cm. And the PMM is also 60 cm (according to the passport). It may still be possible to put it under the countertop and close it with a door. ? Huh, Gata? By the way, we are fellow countrymen, I am from the Tomsk region.
Ulitk @
Close the door is unlikely to work.
Yes, and why do you need it? If the machine is not designed for this, it will soak something ...
Gata
Galina, it has front panel controls, so the bezel definitely isn't.
Vinnitsa
Hello, members of the forum! I choose PMM, in thought between Bosch, Siemens and Neff, I want a full-size one ... I started reading information on the internet, on the Yandex market they write about Neff that the door stops closing after about a year, the holder flies (confirm or refute, because. did not understand, specifically in that model there is a defect or in all Neffs). I am also interested in the opinion of users, which arrangement of the control buttons is more convenient - on the front panel Dishwasher selection (2) or at the end of the door Dishwasher selection (2)
legulya
Vinnitsa, I have Neff for three years already, I use it every day. Great car, I'm very happy! And I think I'm even sure that Neff's technique is much better than Bosches, Siemens.I have an oven and cooking induction Neff too - beyond praise !! Highly recommend! And the control buttons at the PM at the end of the door! Good luck!)))
Vinnitsa
legulya, thanks, I also tend to the full-size Neff, I think that those reviews may be the intrigues of competitors, who knows ... I read in the subject that the Neff technique is at its best, and then suddenly ...
Vinnitsa
Girls, help !!! Watching used PMM from Germany, my brain is already boiling. I look at full-size ones (60 cm), I found good options at an affordable price
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If anyone is not lazy, take a look at the links, tell me what you think about these models, I will be very grateful
And more questions: is the cross-line shower icon half load (far right)? Dishwasher selection (2)
V-tina
Quote: Vinnitsa
And more questions: is the cross-line shower icon half load (far right)?
If I'm not mistaken - this is rinsing
Vinnitsa
V-tina, Are you online? I read the forum and see that I am a specialist.
Vinnitsa
V-tinamaybe this is an additional rinse?
Vinnitsa
V-tina, I also saw in some cars there is, as it were, a third tray at the very top. What is he for? Since there is no such thing in the models indicated on the links, I think now, is it critical?
V-tina
Quote: Vinnitsa
V-tina, are you online? I read the forum and see that I am a specialist.
no, not a specialist, but before buying PMM, I carefully studied the issue. It seems to me that this is an ordinary rinse
Quote: Vinnitsa
V-tina, I also saw in some cars there is, as it were, a third tray at the very top. What is he for?
I don’t quite understand what kind of tray I’m talking about, but it seems that in the subject someone wrote about three baskets in the PMM .. Personally, two are more than enough for me, the only thing is that sometimes I would like the upper basket to be removed to wash large dishes
V-tina
Vinnitsa, Elena, active links to third-party sites are prohibited, fix it, otherwise they will scold)
V-tina
Vinnitsa, I would personally take AEG or NEFF from the first two links, having previously talked, of course, with the sellers
Vinnitsa
V-tina, thanks, corrected
I also look at Neff more than others ...
V-tina
My washer technician praises AEG very much for the quality, I would rather take it if the condition is good. The used washing machine of this company has worked for me for more than 20 years and I left it with great regret .. Lena, you wait a little, people will catch up on the topic, maybe someone else will advise
Chamomile
The third, uppermost tray for spoons, forks, so that the lower baskets do not take up extra space under the basket with these items.
Vinnitsa
Chamomile1, oooh, thanks, there was such a thought too
Vinnitsa
Quote: V-tina
My washer technician praises AEG very much for the quality
I will probably agree, because I saw that the washing machines of this company are squeezed up to 1600 rpm, which indicates the power of the unit. In my LG 1000 (limit) - already strained, almost on takeoff
Mams
Quote: Chamomile1

The third, uppermost tray for spoons, forks, so that the lower baskets do not take up extra space under the basket with these items.

Oooh, this is very convenient! Last year I changed the dishwasher and this moment was one of the main ones. Some write that it is not convenient and unnecessary, I don’t know. I really liked this tray. Holds a lot of spoons, forks, not only for dinner, but also large, draft. True, the big ones are not put sideways, but these are the nuances of the layout. In addition, quite a lot of space in the lower basket is not taken up.

By the way, pay attention to the possibility of adjusting the middle basket (if the machine has three) or the upper one (if the machine has two baskets). It is very convenient to raise / lower it if there is something high below. By the way, it can be easily taken out, if it is something really big.
Sonechko1975
Quote: V-tina

Vinnitsa, Elena, active links to third-party sites are prohibited, fix it, otherwise they will scold)
And I would have looked at the links of Vinnichanka ... but it doesn't work, tell me how to be

It turned out to look, hurray

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