Dishwasher selection (2)

Why additional time to dissolve the tablet? It seems to me that it dissolves in the same way as the powder dissolves in time.

Why dry longer ???

I do not have such a function in Electrolux, so even with a powder, even with a tablet, it washes everything the same way.

[Nikasa]

Nikasa - and with what means did you wash and wash badly?

julifera, so far I have used only those products that came with the machine - Finish powder and rinse, eonit salt. There were also 2 finish tablets, and they are still there. So I thought, maybe they can try it later ... (now the machine is turned off due to the renovation of the kitchen).
The result, which I more or less liked, was only on the Intensive 70 gr program. On the rest of the programs, I would rather wash it with my hands. At 45 degrees, even the fat did not wash off properly, no ..

[julifera]

julifera, so far I have used only those products that came with the machine - Finish powder and rinse, eonit salt. There were also 2 finish tablets, and they are still there. So I thought, maybe they can try it later ... (now the machine is turned off due to the renovation of the kitchen).
The result, which I more or less liked, was only on the Intensive 70 gr program. On the rest of the programs, I would rather wash it with my hands. At 45 degrees, even the fat did not wash off properly, no ..

For powder Finish I have already written - the worst of all.
It is not a fact that the tablets will be washed better, those Finish tablets that we have on sale may not coincide in quality with those sent as part of the PMM
You need to try another powder, ask in the thread:

Choosing a dishwasher
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=27350.1040.html#bot

There they will tell you which tools are better, taking into account the availability on sale at the place of residence.
I bought the German powder Domol and I'm happy so far, but you probably don't sell it.

I practically do not use the 45 C mode, I washed the glasses a couple of times and that's it.

The most popular programs I have: Rinsing for 15 minutes + after it I start a quick hour at 60 degrees - as a result, the whole wash takes 1 hour and 15 minutes - the quality of the wash suits me completely, so there is no sense in driving at 70 C for 2.5 hours.

I confirm! final grinding is better !!! I bought a finish powder on the occasion (to be honest - for the sake of a convenient bottle with a spout ...) - garbage ... after Domolovo 4in1 tablets I like the dishes more, and they wash cleaner than the finish, and the smell from the finish is vigorous, chemical ... the finish will end - I will buy the final grinding powder, I will test it. while I'm happy with the pills (by the way, at a price they are more profitable than the finish)

PySy Infa for Russians. my friend (Noginsk) uses Lotta pills - she said they are cool and they wash perfectly! As I understand it, the pricing policy is similar to finishing ...

[I express my gratitude to the members of the forum for their help in choosing!]

Hello everybody! I express my gratitude to the members of the forum for their help in choosing!

but I somehow feel fine Finish, I have already used two large cans. And laundered normally like. The only thing Somat gel did not wash off the plaque on the cups. And now I use German DenkMint, also a normal powder. I also bought Finish tablets somehow, so I divided them in half, in order to save

I once had that the machine washes poorly, set the salt to maximum and everything worked out. True, she now eats 2 packs of salt a month.

I already have the salt at the maximum - the test gave out all five cells, I even worry that this R5 will not be enough. We should have put in a filter, but it hasn't worked out yet ...

We don't have a filter either. Buy tablets for heavily soiled dishes. Still, they wash better.

And I realized that if the water is hard, you can't use tablets - there salt is designed for medium hardness, and in tablet mode, the machine does not use salt from the tank. Or have I misunderstood something?

I do not have a separate pill mode. Therefore, I can wash with a tablet on any long program. I have an Electrolux.

When I use pills, I leave them on the usual mode. no one forbids, but in the end there will be more salt

In general, my rinse aid is set to 1 or 2.

Girls, for whom am I experimenting? The tablet does not survive until rinsing. You can forget about the rinse aid. It is not there.

And also in the lids from the pans under the handle there was a cloudy water with a powder or rinse aid - I don't know, is it necessary to spin them every time?

I'll tell you how I coped with it, it will work for you too)))
Unscrewing the lid infuriated me even more than washing dishes with my hands, and now .. I noticed that on the inside of the roof, on the piece of iron to which the handle is screwed, there is a very small hole on the edge ... and if you put the lid vertically (like plates in in general) with this small hole down, then the water does not linger there and nothing needs to be unscrewed after washing

At an intensive 70 degrees, the plaque on the cups also did not wash off, but! I ran my finger and he began to rub it off, I quickly rubbed the lukewarm ones with a washcloth and that's it! But the chopping board did not wash - it remained in "rags". Either this is a "protein bloom" about which I read about pots, or I did not put it correctly (at the very edge of the basket, it was also turned to the side - I just looked at it later when I took it out). And in the lids from the pans under the handle there was a cloudy water with powder or rinse aid - I don't know, is it necessary to spin them every time?

Rinse aid, by any chance, did not run out? This is either a lack of rinse aid or a lack of salt or an excess of powder. If the car is new. If it is old, then it happens that the glass reacts in this way to washing and becomes cloudy after a while. This is not a plaque from above (not your case, you have washed it off), but a cloudy glass. These cups are for throw away only

I began to indulge in Mila so much. I still can't figure out what to do: I have salt, I tried pills to make it even more, I have a rinse aid, different pouring, I changed the powder, only citric acid poured directly into the car before washing helps. I threw out Ariston. They could not do anything with her. All dishes became cloudy after each wash. Maybe the neutralizing resin is covered, I don't know.

This is either the absence of rinse aid or a lack of salt or an excess of powder. If the car is new.

Well, if only the latter, because I poured salt and rinse into a new one to the eyeballs and so far only did 4 washes

on the inner side of the roof, on the piece of iron to which the handle is screwed, there is a tiny hole on the edge ...

did not find

did not find

If there is no such hole, then it should be made. We have a lot of these glass lids and I've modified all of them. The handle needs to be unscrewed and a file to make a couple of small cuts on opposite sides. You need to screw it so that one of the cuts is opposite the steam outlet. Then you will not need to look at the lid every time for the correct location. We insert with a steam blower up or down and that's it.

Girls, for whom am I experimenting? The tablet does not survive until rinsing. You can forget about the rinse aid. It is not there.

Why do you buy tablets without rinse aid?
That pipka in the center of the tablet, when it gets into the water, should become something like castor oil in consistency. And evenly spread over the insides of the machine. The remnants of this "castor oil" survive right to the last rinse. It is quite natural that this drop in the sea cannot be seen with the naked eye.

Why do you buy tablets without rinse aid?

"castor oil" - do you understand how it is?
I take the pills because they will not bring the powder. And in the place there is nothing track. Except the finish under the sink, which I didn't like.

OK! Let's use the method "by contradiction": the manufacturer claims that there is a rinse aid in his tablets, but in fact it is not. And as a result, all dishes after washing are "in a dried droplet". The question is: how long will such a manufacturer stay on the market?

OK! Let's use the method "by contradiction": the manufacturer claims that there is a rinse aid in his tablets, but in fact it is not. And as a result, all dishes after washing are "in a dried droplet". The question is: how long will such a manufacturer stay on the market?

Well, the Finish powder somehow keeps on, although the manufacturer claims that the powder washes away, but the result is some dishes after washing into a "dried mud"
And the funniest thing is that a lot of people are happy after buying a PMM, to test it faster, they run and buy the most affordable in the nearest store, and this is usually our "favorite" complete finish.
I myself was so fussy, but I was all in repairs, there was no time to sit in the internet and read everything smart at once

And why is everyone so hayut Finish I do not understand, I used it for many years, everything is wonderful, but now I don’t worry at all that it’s cheaper and I take it. Recently I have been using Somat. It seems to me that all powders are from one "barrel"

Maybe in Russia from another barrel
What is the finish, what somat - they are sold not tightly packed.
And the finish is at least sealed.

And why is everyone hate Finish

1) Washes poorly
2) Costly
3) The smell is disgusting, even the one that should be "with lemon" and does not smell close to it ...
The barrels are clearly different ...

Well I do not know. Finish Quantum tablets are the best for me. Finish powder is slightly worse, Somat powder is very bad

1) Washes poorly
2) Costly
3) The smell is disgusting, even the one that should be "with lemon" and does not smell close to it ...
The barrels are clearly different ...

1) no difference
2) see point 1)
3) I don't smell, there are more interesting things

and I sniff! open the dishwasher and sniff! not on purpose, it turns out by itself - I'm breathing! and so from the finish line, well, a very vigorous chemical smell! the smell is stronger from the powder than from the tablets (I had two gift tablets, complete with a dishwasher). but there is no such smell from finishing! anyway he's not that vigorous
I'll clarify - almost everyone in my family is allergic, and I also have a heightened sense of smell ...

And why everyone is so hayut Finish I do not understand, I used it for many years, everything is wonderful, but now I don’t worry at all that it’s cheaper and I take it. Recently I have been using Somat. It seems to me that all powders are from one "barrel"

I have PMM for 10 years. I mainly use Finish, because it most often catches my eye. I also used Somat. I didn't notice any difference either. The only version is why everyone is scolding Finish, but we feel fine - maybe because our water is very soft?

- maybe because our water is very soft?

I didn't think about that. Although the water seems to be brought to the condition for everyone through an ion exchanger, that is, it is softened.

and my friend uses ONLY Amway powder .. she does not use salt or rinse aid !!!! (She has had a typewriter since July last year) .... So I think ... what will happen to her typewriter?! ... .... and our water, as I wrote above, is VERY HARD ... all five cubes showed on the test!

what will happen to her typewriter ?!

Why, "he will glue the flippers" and everything should already be washed badly, naive people believe in amway

yeah ... about amway for PMM bad reviews ...

Now I called the water utility .. I asked (clarified) the water hardness .. All the same, the strip did not lie .. they said that the value was 4.6 .. now I looked in the internet ... this is considered "medium hardness water" .. so what value should I set Salt?

yeah ... about amway for PMM bad reviews ...

yeah .. I just finished reading the topic about funds yesterday ...Well, what am I going to prove to her, if she is a distributor there .... She, to see another and did not try!

Well, what am I going to prove to her, if she is a distributor there ...

It is useless to do this. Religious fanatic can't explain

Now I called the water utility .. I asked (clarified) the water hardness .. All the same, the strip did not lie .. they said that the value was 4.6 .. now I looked in the internet ... this is considered "medium hardness water" .. so what value should I set Salt?

Trust the tester and don't trust what they say. There is also a lot written on the fence. Set the salt consumption depending on the tester readings.

Now I called the water utility .. I asked (clarified) the water hardness .. All the same, the strip did not lie .. they said that the value was 4.6 .. now I looked in the internet ... this is considered "medium hardness water" .. so what value should I set Salt?

There should be 4 squares on the test - This is R-4
You have 4.6 mmol / l. Everything is correct.

I realized that I would need to try a one-component tablet with glass to see the presence of droplets (dry). And then a three-part one. In general, more work

There should be 4 squares on the test - This is R-4
You have 4.6 mmol / l. Everything is correct.

look at my test .. it CLEARLY showed 4 integers and 1/2 fifth ...
But the test strip gave me such a result!

Thank you, I've already seen this photo. Unfortunately you are not on it. Having removed the verification errors, I will agree on 4 squares. R-4 from 4.1 to 6 mmol / l.

look at my test .. it CLEARLY showed 4 integers and 1/2 fifth ...
But the test strip gave me such a result!

How to understand this? Are you talking about two tests?

I was telling a story here not long ago on March 8, but there were triplets, and here 4 and a half

Good afternoon, everyone, I want to buy a HOTPOINT / ARISTON LFTA + 5H1741 X dishwasher, the reviews in the store and on the Yandex market seem to be good, can anyone say anything here? thank you very much in advance.

[P4elk @]

P4elk @ I would not buy a very mediocre manufacturer.

It is necessary to ask the Baker to "add" a questionnaire / vote who has what kind of PMM, as in the topic on AG ... That would immediately see the number of owners of this or that brand!

This is not an indicator, they will come to the 1st place of the CENTURY and only because of the budget.

This is not an indicator

And why is there a demonstration ... here the meaning will be that a person sees ... yeah ... someone has AEG ... or there is a Bosch ... etc. but no, for example, some something Smeg or Kaiser .. so he will wait for an answer .. IMHO .. this is my personal opinion! When choosing a PMM, such a questionnaire was VERY lacking for me ...

[P4elk @]

P4elk @ I would not buy a very mediocre manufacturer.

and what does an average manufacturer mean ?? I just choose such a thing for the first time, I looked at the price good for functionality, other cars with the same functions are off scale for 25 and this is at best, only here it is not available in the store, I have been waiting for a month