Choosing a dishwasher

And yet, when the machine was first started, salt was poured, but water was not poured into the compartment beforehand. If you open the tray now, then the salt is dry, should it be?

No, it is necessary to fall asleep in the water !!!
And then also mix!

It seems to me that the smell depends on the detergents used. There are powders with a very vigorous odor. Conclusion - change the detergent. Then use a dishwasher cleaner periodically, after this procedure it smells very fresh in the dishwasher. I will also suggest an option - - pour less detergent powder, there will be less odor and perhaps the soap residue on the dishes will not be felt.

I do not wash my dishes with powder, but with tablets, so I cannot pour the powder. changed different manufacturers, but everyone has a smell of chemistry. now I use Filtero tablets made in Germany.

And yet, less need to get hung up on looking for dishwasher flaws.

I don’t get stuck! only somehow thoughts are present, what to eat the remains of soap and how will it then respond? we are all trying to eat healthy food

I don’t get stuck! only somehow thoughts are present, what to eat the remains of soap and how will it then respond? we are all trying to eat healthy food

Those who are concerned about the presence of a large amount of chemistry buy eco-products, about the middle of this Temka they wrote about them.

No, it is imperative to fall asleep in the water !!!
And then also mix!

And now I just gently pour from the top to the top and mix? Or how?

And why mix?

Well, to get wet probably

it seems to me enough water from above, but probably pouring slowly

[Stafa, ksusha, mowgli]

And why mix?

Stafa, ksusha, mowgli, I answer how it was. There was salt in the compartment, right up to the neck. Dry. I began to pour water, the salt darkened and got wet, then I took a spoon and began to stir, all the salt fell inside. No water or salt is visible. I have topped up some more water (probably about a glass was gone). She reached the top, poured salt, also to the top. So in my case it was necessary to mix.

Irin, how did it happen that the salt was dry? When I fell asleep for the first time - in the instructions it was written - pour water (a liter, it seems) and pour salt down the neck.

pour water (a liter seems to be) and pour salt down the neck.

yes .. you need to pour 1 liter of water ...
I did this .... first 1 liter of water .. then salt .... I first got 1 kg of salt .. then I clarified the girls - they said you could pour more ... as a result, only 2.5 kg of salt was included. .. I even got it over the edges ... I mixed it with a spoon - and it settled a little ...

[TYRON]

Girls, I want to write about the powder TYRON... Full G ....., scratched all my dishes, so cool, as if they scratched with sandpaper. The powder does not dissolve completely; undissolved granules remain, which scratch the dishes and dry on them. Do not buy!
Now, so as not to throw it away, I dissolve it in water and filter it through a dense cloth. Here is such a hassle.

Girls .... well, do not wash my "drops" from the dishes .. well, I understand what's the matter?

Green dishes (luminark) ...
The rinse is at 5 (out of 6), salt at 4 out of 5 ... I pour the powder at the 15 gram mark .. Claro powder (here he was praised), Bravix rinse .. Mine at 60 C .... What could be the problem ? Should I change powder or rinse aid? Or change the settings? Who has any considerations on this score?
PySy .. went to reread the topic from the beginning ...

Reduce rinse aid, set to 1 or 2.

Reduce rinse aid, set to 1 or 2.

So I started washing dishes with a rinse aid value from 1 and gradually increased to 6 .. the result is the same everywhere!

I also had drops, but I reduced the salt - set it to 2, although the water is more suitable for 3 levels. And I pour just a little rinse aid, I don't even see it up to what mark it is, I count to five and that's it.

I also had drops, but I reduced the salt - set it to 2, although the water is more suitable for 3 levels. And I pour just a little rinse aid, I don't even see it up to what mark it is, I count to five and that's it.

I'll try to reduce the salt ... .. So the rinse aid is dosed out of the container / reservoir ...

So it turns out ..... I wasted every time I pour the rinse aid ....... How do I know when it's finished?

....... How do I know that it is over?

I have a display with salt and rinse aid indicators .. when they run out, the indicator should "light up" .. if there is enough (salt and rinse aid), then the indicators do not light up .. well, I have something like this ...

I bought these pills, I really liked it, there is no smell, they wash clean, there are no streaks.

Girls! I use Kolganite 10 in 1 tablets .. But I don’t understand why my Electrolux washes not perfectly .. then there are some smudges on the dishes, it just seems that the powder is badly washed off and I have to rinse everything manually .. then food remains inside the cups or on the plates plaque, which is easily removed with a finger .. I put it on the sink for 30 minutes. Before washing, I clean all the dishes from dirt, the dirt is not dried on it .. The forks between the teeth often remain dirty, the spoons are covered with white .. Well, what's the problem? Why is the washing quality so high? in a tablet company? by the way, sometimes it happens that the detergent tablet has not completely dissolved or the pieces are lying on some kind of pan)) I don't understand anything ...

I will add that I tried to put on a sink and a long one, I put it on 1h30min .. the result is the same ((what can you advise? can anyone also come across this ..

[Aveskulova]

Aveskulova, if not a secret, where and for what did you take Frosch pills? I haven’t seen them yet, but I would like to try

avgusta24 certainly not a secret :) I bought 135 UAH 30pcs in Auchan. packaging, I have already seen them in the Amstor supermarket chain.

Rinse aid is at 5 (out of 6), salt at 4 out of 5 ... I pour the powder at the 15 gram mark .. Claro powder (here he was praised)

PySy .. went to re-read the topic from the beginning ...

But I did not like this powder, I didn’t wash the dishes well.

In my car, on short programs, the dishes are not washed, and the tablet does not have time to dissolve during this time. I have a 45 cm car - I use half a tablet.
And if there is a white coating, then the salt adjustments are incorrectly set.

thanks for the answer! and on large ones, too, everything sucks ((and I tried half of the tablet .. but how to set these salt adjustments correctly? I have such a small and stupid instruction ((((

In my car, on short programs, the dishes are not washed, and the tablet does not have time to dissolve during this time. I have a 45 cm car - I use half a tablet.
And if there is a white coating, then the salt adjustments are incorrectly set.

I was just about to get rid of the stains by adjusting the salt.

Girls ... yesterday I set the salt to 3 (out of 5) - the rinse aid increased to 6 - the result is the same .. again traces (white circles) are visible on the dishes .. 60 C program ...
Thinking of reducing the salt still?

There is still somat from the powder .. so when washing the dishes, I add either only Claro or Claro + Sanit (up to mark 15 - there are not many of my dishes)

* Anyuta *, go to the gel, there should be no streaks from it.

Reduce and rinse. Why is it at your maximum is worth it?

* Anyuta *, go to the gel, there should be no streaks from it.

And I have all in one from the Finish gel, just the stains remained ...

milvok, I only use Japanese gels, I don't have any streaks from them.

Reduce and rinse. Why is it at your maximum is worth it?

Damn, I've already got confused with these settings ... the instructions say in my opinion - whitish traces remain - increase the rinse aid ...
Girls ... I did the settings as Flaksia says ... only the salt values ​​were 4 and 5. Yesterday I reduced the salt by 3 .. I have no streaks .. but there are white traces of droplets.

My friend washes without rinse at all .. like it doesn’t taste good to her with rinse, she licked all the dishes and refused it and she didn’t have any drops.

[Flaksia]

My opinion is to increase the rinse aid, I am 100% sure of it

Agree with Flaksia ! I also had white droplets on the dishes, I added rinse aid and everything disappeared.

I understood with the rinse aid, but what to do with the salt? The water is hard .. what value should I put? Maximum or not?

[* Anyuta *]

* Anyuta * , set it to medium and see the quality of the wash, but not on the short program.

[* Anyuta *]

* Anyuta * , set it to medium and see the quality of the wash, but not on the short program.

yesterday the salt value was 3 out of 5, rinse aid 6 out of 6 ... washing for 1 hour at 60C. Or maybe fig powder?

By the way, smudges remain on the walls of the machine and on the door of the machine too .. Is this normal?

And my car is clean after washing. It can be seen in the settings.

[exclusively with]

So .. salt at 3 (out of 5), rinse aid at 6 (out of 6) - before that - litter, mixed up, rinse aid was at 4 out of 6, washing - 2 hours at 70 C, powder ONLY Somat - wash quality - SUPER compared to previous attempts ... if a speck jumps where, then it is no longer critical (as it was) ... but the smudges on the door still remain

All the same, in order to set up the machine, you need to have patience ... and some more ... and you still have to play with the settings - so that "there is something to compare", that is, to see the quality of washing on different programs! But you shouldn't forget about detergents either ... Today I will try all the same settings, only now exclusively with Claro!

I bought the Italian-made Aquarius tablets all in one. There is no difference in washing dishes compared to other companies, the price is cheaper than the finish and myele, but the stench after washing the dishes with them lasted for 24 hours. And a pretty nasty chemical smell. It seems that my car does not want to be friends with Italian means.

Yes, and the dishes smell a little, I even have a husband who, according to him, "has no scent", smelled this smell. Now I will wash half a pill

I won't take anything Italian for the dishwasher. I bought an Italian-made molding agent for a sample, not cheap 250 ml 240 rubles, after washing the dishes the smell was just terrible, I will not experiment anymore.

Tanya, Italian pills also have a terrible smell, well, I didn't buy two packs for the promotion, I decided to try it first. The box says 3D effect, apparently it's about the stench Other means I use does not smell.

[Masya]

Girls a in the powder selection section Masya offered a homemade recipe for laundry gel, many of them wash the whole house, including dishes. And who ever tried to put it in the car?
Masya "I thought about writing or not. I will write. I make myself a liquid detergent for automatic machines. I found it on the Internet. Some do not approve of such experiments, but I have an old Vyatka, and two children, and therefore there is a need to wash several times a day ...
I rub 50 grams of soap (what I like, usually the simplest with a minimum smell) on a grater, pour boiling water (2-3 liters of water, depending on the required thickness of the product.). Then I add 45g of soda ash and stir. Everything dissolves well, and then thickens when it cools. You can blue it with blue if you wish.The agent is put into the drum itself (with a spoon for example), if suddenly it turned out thick. And that's all. It turns out the usual detergent, only economical.I have been washing them for more than six months, the machine does not complain of health. Chemists on the forum wrote that they used to wash in laundries with such a solution ... And for special linen or woolen clothes, you can buy a pack of ordinary powder."

[By Erin Hafstetler, About.com dishwasher detergent one part baking soda one part borax. You can use plain vinegar as a rinse aid. I'll try to make a translation, (unfortunately, I can't make a link correctly) Try this simple homemade detergent recipe: What do you need: 1 tablespoon Borax 1 tablespoon baking soda - We make a mixture of borax and baking soda together. Then add the dishwasher to the wash compartment and, as usual, start the desired cycle in the dishwasher. Why it works: Borax and baking soda are both natural, disinfectant and mild abrasives - exactly what you need to wash out food and germs. In fact, you might be interested to know that Borax is a common ingredient in many commercial detergents. Possibility to make your own dishwasher detergents: inexpensive non-aggressive chemicals does not emit chlorine like other commercial detergents effective disinfectant effective stain remover effective water softener environmentally friendly (no phosphate) Tips and Warnings: 1) Boers sells under the name 20-Mul-group, (this is for America). We can buy it in pharmacies or households. stores. 2) Save time by making up large batches of dry product containing equal parts borax and baking soda. 3) Keep prepared detergent out of reach of children and pets]

Girls Tatiana from St. Petersburg is what she writes, maybe someone will also try. I will definitely cook borax as soon as I find it.
By Erin Hafstetler, About.com

dishwasher detergent

one part baking soda
one part borax.
You can use plain vinegar as a rinse aid.

I'll try to make a translation, (unfortunately, I can't make a link correctly)
Try this simple homemade detergent recipe:
What do you need:
1 tablespoon Borax
1 tablespoon baking soda -

We make a mixture of borax and baking soda together. Then add the dishwasher to the wash compartment and, as usual, start the desired cycle in the dishwasher.
Why it works:
Borax and baking soda are both natural, disinfectant and mild abrasives - exactly what you need to wash out food and germs. In fact, you might be interested to know that Borax is a common ingredient in many commercial detergents.
Possibility to make your own dishwasher detergents:
inexpensive
non-aggressive chemicals
does not emit chlorine like other commercial detergents
effective disinfectant
effective stain remover
effective water softener
environmentally friendly (no phosphate)
Tips and Warnings:

1) Boers sells under the name 20-Mul-group, (this is for America). We can buy it in pharmacies or households. stores.
2) Save time by making up large batches of dry product containing equal parts borax and baking soda.

3) Keep prepared detergent out of reach of children and pets

Do you have a question about the placement of dishes and / or why the quality of washing has deteriorated? Dark glass plates with high rims are available. I use them to heat up the first courses in the microwave. This picture shows their shape (right, top).

So, when placing such dishes in the dishwasher, they are on inclined pins or tilt too much and become upside down or (when flipped 180 degrees) they look up, like satellite dishes. As a result, the remaining fat, these "annual rings" on the walls, are partially washed away. How to set the plates correctly?
The dishwasher is 5 months old, yesterday the indicator of the lack of rinse aid came on, and the salt from the first filling. Bravix powder and rinse, the problem with fatigue has occurred only in the last few cycles. Can I add more salt to her?

I top up and fill up as needed: either when the indicator lights up, or if I need to leave for a couple of days and I worry that my family will not figure out when, where and what to pour and pour!
if one indicator lights up, then the second is about to suffer the same fate, so I would add salt too, in any case it won't get any worse

and with the plates I have to "dance" sometimes I have to put the plates along the back wall, deep bowls are generally the only way I install them. here it is necessary to determine "by place", because the baskets inside are all different ...

So, when placing such dishes in the dishwasher, they are on inclined pins or tilt too much and become upside down or (when flipped 180 degrees) look up like satellite dishes. As a result, the remaining fat, these "annual rings" on the walls, are partially washed away. How to set the plates correctly?

Such deep plates are the most favorite in my family. I always put them in the bottom basket in the first row. That is, a basket with forks and spoons is in the same row (on my right at the wall) then I put these deep plates, then large flat ones. The typewriter is 10 years old, the plates are ALWAYS perfectly washed, I have never seen any "annual" rings.I often use Finish (it is easiest to buy it from us), sometimes Somat (there were no problems either).
I put such large salad bowls between the rows of pins in the back of the lower basket. If the dishes are small - vertically, if there is a lack of space - at an angle, as it fits in .. the main thing is to "look" down to the rocker.


photo is not mine, from internet ..
this is how the basket stands, and through some pins I put the first plate with a slope towards the basket.

I also became the owner of the PM. Compact Delfa 3201. A bunch of programs. But there is no salt adjustment. I put everything in the container as it should be. How many funds have tried for 5 days of operation !!!!!. Since I wash clothes only with Dakos and very pretty. I use all means for both cleaning and washing. So I decided to use it in PM. But this is horror. Washes nothing. Glass horror. Plates are just washed. No raid. There are no spots. No divorces. But he can't wash cups of tea and coffee. I also bought a sonnet. The same thing, but a little better. The deflator is also a sonnet. And now the moment of truth has come. Bought Calgonite finish powerball tablets all in one. Class. My dishes shine. Shines. I licked, as they wrote here. There is neither salty nor bitter. I am very satisfied. All cups have been washed. They just sparkle. Purity. I washed everything that was in the house.

And if I put plates along the back wall, they are poorly washed. And in general (as I read) there is a zone in the PM where the dishes are poorly washed. I have wine glasses in the form of a tulip, that is, the edges are also bent outward, like on plates at Wasp. How to put them in a typewriter is unclear. The pins are not worn.
The message from milvok about an alternative to detergent was ignored. It is interesting to hear the opinion of other members of the forum about this. I heard about pouring vinegar instead of rinse aid, but not about powder. I think the reviews will be rather negative. in a whisper: I would also like to try ...

The message from milvok about an alternative to detergent was ignored. It is interesting to hear the opinion of other members of the forum about this. I heard about pouring vinegar instead of rinse aid, but not about powder. I think the reviews will be rather negative. in a whisper: I would also like to try ...

This is not an alternative! The alternative is if on the new moon the fruits of the soap tree are crushed in a mortar or something like that. And buy borax at the pharmacy - excuse me! This is the same far from edible chemicals, only with the complete absence of any additives designed to increase the efficiency of washing.