Vacuum packing machine

Girls, I read half of the topic. Realized that I want ProfiCook 1015DS.

Read the reviews carefully and more!
I used it only a couple of times, the Teflon bottom "foamed", the contacts began to emit a burning smell - I passed it back to ozone, took it without a sound, and immediately returned the money in cash

[Tanechka]

Tanechka, you messed up. It's about a vacuum sealer, not a soup cooker.

[Admin]

Admin, what is brother then? Chinese is also not ice, proficouk is also ... So the dream in koryu will wither away

[Tanechka]

Tanechka, you messed up. It's about a vacuum sealer, not a soup cooker.

Sorry! Someone has something that hurts, but I'm talking about a soup cooker

I saw it on Ozone.

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Girls, in the Metro Profi Cook PC VK 1015 - costs 3899
but, apparently, you need to call your addresses about the availability
I saw on Kosygin, in St. Petersburg

bags and roll are also available

On Amazon - 52 euros. But you have to order it and go to Finka to pick it up.

On Amazon - 52 euros. But you have to order it and go to Finka to pick it up.

A little off ... Anna, will you teach me how to order in Lapu? I will leave, take it away (you still need to roll back the visa)

A little off ... Anna, will you teach me how to order in Lapu? I will leave, take it away (you still need to roll back the visa)

If you order in online stores, nothing new. I myself do not understand anything, the youth have prepared everything for me, I am only taking the last steps on my own, and even that was a year ago. I started a Kukuruza card for payment, I need to look at the postal index in Lapa in Google, I don't remember now. Well, create an account, throw it into the basket, etc. It's better to order what Amazon itself delivers. then everything will come at the same time. The post office is located in the Arcada shopping center, on Saturday it works only until 14.00. Received by your passport. Say posta restant (on demand). They keep it for a week. Even if you go by bus, you can catch everything. I'm alone in the car, and you won't question your son. The parcel takes two weeks, sometimes less.
I will probably get ready in 2 months - while on vacation, while I get a visa - by November, rather. We can together.

Anna, abruptly fell for a week at sea, I will come, I will definitely write to you.

I choose a packer, I am in Irkutsk, there is practically no choice in stores, there are many Chinese and Korean. I am thinking of ordering via the Internet from the capital, who can advise what, what details are worth looking at?
It is mainly needed for packing fish, the father often dried and smoked the fish, occasionally for harvesting and freezing berries.

Thanks in advance for any help!

[Zhenya]

Zhenya, read the topic, there are not so many pages in it, this will help you make your choice.
I have a Pro Cook, everything suits me.

I also ordered ProfiCook from Germany.
Packer + 2 packs of bags + shipping cost as one packer with us

[Lyalya Toy]

Lyalya Toy, and ordered the ProfiKuk 1015DS model? Please share a link to the seller ...

Model 1015 and Model 1015DS were discontinued.

And in this model, it is possible to evacuate in a container (where to insert the tube)?

The pipe is not there, the girls wrote that the pipe can be bought separately.
I haven't got mine yet. I can specifically answer about its capabilities
after receiving and after trying it at work.

Yes, there is a ledge for the tube and a pump down button. And the pipe can be purchased separately, as well as containers. Chinese aperts fit.

[Zhenya]

Zhenya, read the topic, there are not so many pages in it, this will help you make your choice.
I have a Pro Cook, everything suits me.

I saw Proficuk at my neighbor's, confused by the fact that there are no holders for the film, the quality of the plastic is strange to the touch, and judging by the reviews there are problems with the locks.
There are also different opinions about Koreans, although we used to have a Korean Food Gard, they bought it in Korea, but when they bought it, they immediately warned that in Korea the electricity is different, and in Russia it would not work for a long time, and that is what happened, after 2 years it stopped pumping. and the master said that it was in hertz, in Korea 60, and in Russia 50.

Yes, there are no problems with the latches, just someone there, out of caution at first, so as not to break, was afraid to press the cover properly. And that there is no holder for the film, then I, for example, use ready-made large packages, cut them into 2, or even 4, so it turns out cheaper with us than from a roll. In general, the prices for packers are too high. The ribbed film is also not getting cheaper. If it breaks, I will generally buy an omnivorous simple Chinese packer, like Sergei Kornilov's (only so that he still works with wet products), so that I can take any film, the simplest and foil. Only it does not work with containers. And I won't even bother. I have already played enough with containers. It's just that at first, when the packer was not there, I really wanted everything to be in one at once. But in fact, most often you just need to solder it, but cheaper, so as not to think about consumables. And it is very important for someone that he must work with containers.

I will not give a link here.

And why? What are the secrets? : girl-th: Of course, it doesn't matter to me, I can find it myself ... but we usually share everything here .... There may just be a situation when you really need something .. and they will answer in the same way ...

My wife now calls me a vacuum maniac.
I pack everything. Regular packages or packages in which products are sold.
- Groats, flour were opened - they were poured into a saucepan, and the leftovers were packed so that the bugs would not start
- All dried fruits that have been dried this year
- Store dried fruits
- All the spices are packed in the closet, you open the package, pour it into the food, then you pack the rest into the locker
- The coffee was opened, poured into a coffee grinder for grinding, and the residues in the same package are evacuated
- The washing powder in a huge package was opened, poured into a small container - the rest was sealed so as not to stink.
- We washed the carrots for the winter, dried them and packed them all in ordinary bags, let's see how they will be stored this year.
- Now I looked after large bags in the store, I want to pack 3-4 sacks of potatoes, let's see how they will be stored until spring, maybe they won't grow, there is no air there, but does the sprouts need it?

[Sergey Kornilov]

My wife now calls me a vacuum maniac.

Sergey Kornilov, You have infected us too! I studied the whole topic for your packer. I'll take it!

Yes, there are no problems with the latches, just someone there, out of caution at first, so as not to break, was afraid to press the cover properly. And that there is no holder for the film, then I, for example, use ready-made large packages, cut them into 2, or even 4, so it turns out cheaper with us than from a roll. In general, the prices for packers are too high. The ribbed film is also not getting cheaper.

I meant the bag holders, this is when you can fix the bag and then close the lid, I tried to vacuum it with a full bag at a neighbor's office, it did not work the first time, because the bag did not lie flat.
Here we had one, like a trifle, some kind of plastic stuff, but very convenient: 🔗
We took in Korea for $ 80, the price in Russia is, of course, very high ...

Good Review of Sinbo DZ-280 Vacuum Sealer 🔗.

I decided to order everything at once so as not to pay for delivery several times. In general, I took the packer GOCHU VAC-470, rolls of 5 pieces of 2 sizes, a set of vacuum caps and a vacuum container. My daughter loves freshly squeezed juices, I saw somewhere that such juices can be stored in containers for up to 3 days, I'll try, otherwise I get tired of cleaning the juicer every day)
And I will always find use for the caps, I have a lacquered table in the kitchen, I think that it will be possible to stick directly to it) and store bread and everything that remains on the table half-eaten. In general, if I have time, I will definitely make a photo report))

What do you mean "with everything you can"? It only works with corrugated film.

Yes, they told me that, the film must be corrugated at least on one side, otherwise the air will not be completely or not at all pumped out, but corrugated film is suitable from any manufacturer.
In general, it was advised to avoid packing in ordinary bags, since the quality of air pumping is several times worse, and if the product itself does not allow air to pass through, then there is a high probability that air will remain on some side of the product. I understood that, that's why they came up with a special film so that the air was removed along the corrugated part.

Corrugated film was invented for this type of packer. And they just won't pump air out of smooth bags normally.
But this does not mean at all that there are no packers for regular packages. Above in the topic it is written about them.
Have you bought vacuum-packed sausages in a store? Were they in corrugated bags?
Vacuum packed coffee in regular smooth bags! Cheese, fresh meat, fish ...

Excuse me, of course, but I worked in a store and I know how to pack it. So for this they use huge, the size of a bedside table, vacuum apparatus, with a large vacuum container, into which they place the entire product together with the packaging and pump out air from the container, and not from the bag. It turns out that there is a vacuum in the container and in all the products that are there, after which the package is sealed right there, in a vacuum, and the sealed product is pulled out of the container. That is, it does not matter what kind of film there is, because there is a vacuum in the entire container, but you are pumping from one side of the bag, and if there is no corrugation on the bag for the passage of air, then it will most likely remain there.

I will not argue, everyone has their own opinion. Besides, until you try, you won't know. In any case, your packer is more functional and definitely worth the money. May it bring you pleasure.

Aperts containers received from YouTube 🔗

take it if anyone needs it. I would like to ask for advice on where to buy a tube for pumping out containers? I have a Profi Cook to fit?
Give a link, plz!

to buy a tube for pumping out containers? I have a Profi Cook to fit?

Also from Aperts will do. I won't give you a link - I didn't look for it

Will the hose fit the Proficuc?

Will the hose fit the Proficuc?

I won't tell you this) Father says that Korean people all have the same pipes, but only practice will show whether it is suitable for European)

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Hello. Please help with advice. I read the whole topic, decided to buy Profiquk 1015 at Yulmart (delivery is only 1 day, at Ozone to wait a week). I go in to make an order, but there are no films and bags for Profiquk on Yulmart now, they are over. There is for Rommelsbacher and Steba. Tell me, can I use this film and bags on Proficuk or wait for the original packaging? (There is no way to read the topic again). Thank you.

Tell me, can I use this film and bags on Proficuk or wait for the original packaging?

Can. Any "Rough" will do!

- We washed the carrots for the winter, dried them and packed them all in ordinary bags, let's see how they will be stored this year.
- Now I looked after large bags in the store, I want to pack 3-4 sacks of potatoes, let's see how they will be stored until spring, maybe they won't grow, there is no air there, but does the sprouts need it?

That's something I doubt very much, a hundred potatoes and carrots will be well preserved !!! Although they are dry on the outside, and there is moisture inside, it will gradually come out and the product may deteriorate, even if you store it in the refrigerator !!!

Let's check it out.
I will tell you about the result in winter.

[Sergey Kornilov]

Sergey Kornilov, will wait!!!

Good afternoon, can you tell me who knows I live in Arkhangelsk wanted to buy a Hotter vacuum sealer with an adapter hx-yl-282. But a Hotter representative only sells grills with us. I wrote to several stores about delivery, they have been silent for a week. I called the hotter with her hands. Can you tell me online stores where you can buy, otherwise very much though. Thank you.

Do you know where you can buy it?

These packers are in Moscow, although they do not have containers yet, but I was told that they will come soon.

🔗

Ksyusha, did I understand that you have both vacuum sealers? My Korean is also dead. Yesterday, all swore. Now I choose between staff 6 and Proficuk. What do you recommend?

If you bought a Korean who was not adapted to growing networks, then this is no wonder. In Korea in 60 Hz networks, in Russia 50. If you buy from Korea directly, or here, but from those who again sell unadapted models, then transformers can "fly". Here is such a sadness :(

And what about what NOT worth it?
So I baked a layer in advance for a cake according to the recipe for "coconut meringue" and decided to pack it in a vacuum, like it will be better preserved for a week before the assembly of the cake. Well, what would you think, instead of a neat, flat cake, it turned out to be a kind of plate, it was ... uh, sucked in and flattened on one side
So I put this product on the "not worth it" list
Yesterday I went through all my medicinal herbs, dried berries, threw out all the boxes that take up a damn hole in space and closed everything in a vacuum, putting it inside a cardboard box with the name and method of application. This is real, I think it's worth it!
Homemade meat products are excellent, they are stored really longer
I also pack dog food. A large package of rice flakes can be infected with bugs, so I pack and pack. Here!

In the case of packaging fragile products or berries, it is advisable to use the forced vacuum stop function. And if you pack something wet, then it is better to freeze the product a little before packing in a vacuum, so that moisture does not interfere with tightly sealing the bag.

If you bought a Korean who was not adapted to growing networks, then this is no wonder. In Korea in 60 Hz networks, in Russia 50. If you buy from Korea directly, or here, but from those who again sell unadapted models, then transformers can "fly". Here is such a sadness :(

Buy from us, not directly from Korea? These packers are really interesting. I think not only to me. Only such advertising, on the contrary, repels potential buyers. Don't push them so aggressively.

Buy from us, not directly from Korea? These packers are really interesting. I think not only to me. Only such advertising, on the contrary, repels potential buyers. Don't push them so aggressively.

eeeeeeee, here I mean in Russia from companies who officially supply models for our networks.
now there are a lot of resourceful comrades offering to send goods from Korea, it may be cheaper, of course, but in this case, a model is bought from the domestic market, designed for an electric network with 60Hz.

forewarned is forearmed

[60 Hz, 50 Hz ... Enable or not enable?]

Regarding 50 and 60 Hz, to me (a pro-electronics student) your arguments seem unconvincing and, to be honest, they look more like marketing tricks of sellers who want to sell their goods. The same is most often said in cell phone stores about phones made in China for the Chinese market.

well written here

60 Hz, 50 Hz ... Enable or not enable?

Household appliances of foreign production are often designed to operate from an electrical network, the frequency of alternating current in which is 60 Hz. Naturally, the owners of such devices have a reasonable question - can they be used in Russia or other countries with a 50 Hz supply frequency? The answer is as simple as the multiplication table: you can! But taking into account that the equipment is designed to be powered from a network with a voltage of 220-230 Volts.

Where did they come from?
The world began to electrify at the end of the 19th - beginning of the 20th centuries. In America, Edison and Westinghouse stood at its origins, Europe was "accustomed" to the electric power industry mainly by engineers of the German company Siemens.The standard frequencies of 50 and 60 Hz were chosen, in general, relatively randomly from the range of 40 ... 60 Hz. The range limits were not chosen by chance: at a frequency below 40 Hertz, arc lamps, which were at that time the main electric source of artificial lighting, could not work, and at a frequency above 60 Hz, asynchronous electric motors designed by Nikola Tesla, the most common at that time, did not work. ..

In Europe, the 50 Hz standard was chosen ("golden mean"!), The Americans got accustomed to the 60 Hz standard - arc lamps worked more stable at this frequency. More than a century has passed, arc lamps have become a rarity, but the standards have remained - and this difference of 10 Hz practically does not affect the performance of electrical equipment. The voltage in the electrical network is much more important - in many countries it is about half as much as in Russia! And the frequency ... in Japan, for example, a third of the prefectures have a 60Hz standard, the remaining two-thirds have a 50Hz standard. And nothing, they live - and, according to rumors, they live well! ..

Can? Can!
We can safely say that the performance of household appliances does not depend on the frequency of the mains supply. From the point of view of physics in general and electrical engineering - in particular, this is quite obvious: at the shaft of a 60 Hz AC electric motor connected to a 50 Hz network, the rotation frequency will decrease by only a few percent; the power of the electric motor itself will slightly decrease. In other words, it will work in a gentle mode - in the same, for example, screw juicers, this is only for the best.

In devices with DC motors, the frequency of the supply network does not play any role at all - the rectifier diodes installed in the power supply unit cope with voltage of any shape and "hertz". The difference in the values ​​of the rectified voltages arising from the change in the frequency of the supply network will be simply scanty; in addition, the rectified voltage is usually stabilized by the electronic "stuffing" of the device.

All of the above is absolutely true for household appliances that have a built-in or external switching power supply. The situation is even simpler if a conventional step-down transformer is included in the power supply unit - its output characteristics change slightly from a change in the voltage frequency in the primary winding. The performance of another type of devices - heating - does not depend at all on the frequency of the mains supply, for such devices the value of the mains voltage is much more important ...

Can! Just ... carefully!
Devices designed for power supply from a 60 Hz mains can be safely connected to a 50 Hz mains. This, by the way, is confirmed by one not too well-known fact: if you open some rather old device with an electric motor - a vacuum cleaner, hairdryer, mixer, juicer - and carefully read the inscriptions on the nameplate of the motor and its characteristics, you can see: “the frequency of the supply network ... 50-60 Hz "!

In fairness, it should be noted that there is still a type of electrical appliance that is better not to be included in the domestic power grid - this is electrical equipment that uses a single-phase asynchronous motor. And the point here is not even that the rotation speed of such electric motors does not depend on the frequency of the supply network, but on the load applied to the shaft - the fact is that, due to the principle of their operation, asynchronous electric motors are very sensitive to the frequency of the network when starting. Designed for 60 Hz, the "asynchronous" at 50 Hz simply will not start ...

This is what you must pay attention to when choosing a "bourgeois" technique for harsh domestic conditions - the requirements for the value of the supply voltage! In many countries (in the same Japan, for example) power grids have an operating voltage of 110 V, and not 220, like ours. You can turn on a 110 V device without an adapter transformer only once - the first and the last ... at best, the device will "burn out", at worst - it will explode right in your hands!

Regarding 50 and 60 Hz, to me (a pro-electronics student), your arguments seem unconvincing and, to be honest, they are more like marketing tricks of sellers who want to sell their goods. The same is most often said in cell phone stores about phones made in China for the Chinese market.

well written here

Sergei, I will not argue. Their devices work in our networks and let them work as long as possible.

The only thing, you gave information from the madeindream store, which also needs to sell Korean domestic goods that are not certified in Russia 🔗... Therefore, we can say that this is the same marketing ploy for those who still hesitate to take 60 or not. In general, you must agree that there would be no problems - there would be no subject of conversation - there would be no this article.

The opinion of madeindream is authoritative for you - it is your right.

My diploma major is industrial electronics engineer.
I gave an article ONLY because everything in it is well written in a language that is understandable for ordinary people.
Breakdowns happen to everyone - just if the equipment purchased from us breaks down, then everyone goes to the service center in silence and repairs it under warranty, and if they buy goods from abroad and it breaks down, then everyone immediately becomes a pro and decides that everything is broken. because the network is not of the same frequency. And the breakdowns are the same.