I choose a harvester, blender, processor

[annnushka27]

annnushka27, An, 1 kg. he probably won't knead flour, if I'm not mistaken, the instructions say - 700-800 gr.

[Kinglet]

Kinglet, Vika, well, yes, that's what I meant, the place where the whisk is inserted (I'm also that techie) just in the foxtrot, when they were convinced that you need to buy Kenwood, they asked to pay attention to the metal fasteners, saying that it is more reliable, and here is Boshik, this particular model, I have not seen. At Bosch, the price suits me more and the dimensions. Vika, as a meat grinder for this model, you have not used it yet?

[Irina]

Irina, the meat grinder has already been honestly tested, I personally have no complaints, the only drawback is that it is located low, you can only substitute a not very deep bowl, but I have just one for minced meat, so it did not bother me. I ground minced pork (neck) and chicken (fillet), there were no special ones in it, so I didn't see any difference with just a separate electric meat grinder

[Kinglet]

Kinglet, Vika, thank you very much, you helped me a lot, I'm almost ready to make my choice

[Abricosca]

Abricosca, yes, no reason, Ira, I wish you good luck and an unmistakable choice. In any case, when ordering from an online store, you can always look at it, touch it and refuse if it seems flimsy to you (I just read such reviews here). I think that the preferences in technique are very individual, but personally, I have already safely forgotten that I once rushed between Kenwood and Bosch P.S. And what kind of pancakes are obtained in his blender

[Kinglet]

Kinglet, Well, you, Vika, know how to be convincing! :

[Kinglet]

Kinglet, girls, Thanks to everyone who helped with advice, looked closely at the Browns and Filiks ... I was tormented! But, in the evening a friend came and with a generous hand gave me a Panasonichek :-) :-) :-). 600 W, just a "leg", as I wanted - for pates and sauces (milk mayonnaise can be made)! Hangs on the wall, there is a bracket. And, more NOTHING superfluous. For the rest I have FSE in Redica :-). I am glad to present! Tomorrow I will try chicken pate :-)!

[mamusi]

mamusi, congratulations, you are lucky with your friend))) Let it work and make you happy, making your life easier Get well soon

Tell me who has a Viter 3404 blender? How is he?
I am looking for a blender with a cube cutter and a whisk. Maybe you can advise an acceptable price? Do I need a gift?

And who has such a combine? Bosch MCM 62020 I would like Mum of course, but the toad is strangling something. Of course, there is no meat grinder on this, but I have a separate Panasonic electric meat grinder, so it's not critical.

[anneta21]

anneta21,

By MCM 6 ... there is a branch https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...=com_smf&topic=311888.200

And there is also a branch on Bosch MCM 68885, but there other models discussed a little https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=302589.0

In my opinion, MSM6 ... are more or less similar. (I have a Bosch MCM 64085)
They may differ in color, power and configuration.

MCM62020 - 1000w (your choice)
MCM64051 - 1200W
MCM64085 - 1200W
MCM68840 - 1250W
MCM68885 - 1250W

Power is important at high speeds, rub-shred at first speed, so these functions are the same

What they have the same:
- body size, comfortable suction cups
- bowl and pusher
- blender
- mount for discs
- two sticks on which knives and a circle for discs
- two knives (for meat and dough)
- whisk
- two double-sided discs - shredder (coarse / fine), double-sided disc - grater (coarse / fine)

All add. disks are interchangeable, you can buy separately. It seems that cubes are not suitable for everyone, but it is better to check with the service center

What is different in the original configuration:
MCM62020 - White Color Citrus Press
MCM64051 - white, citrus press, centrifuge juicer for hard vegetables and fruits, third disc for potato pancakes (raw vegetable grater)
MCM64085 - white, dicing attachment (with an extra special stick), handy bag for storing discs and other parts, third disc for French fries
MCM68840 - Gray, Citrus Press, Parts Storage Bag
MCM68885 - Gray, Dice Cutter, Parts Storage Bag, Third Julienne Disc
Usually, the owners of any MSM6 ... buy an average grater, because it is not enough. Although julienne and medium grater + - are similar, in the branches that gave the links above you will find comparisons. Well, they also buy in addition over time what was not in the kit - disc-fries or cubes, a chopper, etc. But, about cubes it is better to clarify before buying at a service center.

If you bake a lot and do a lot of dough, then MUM is still better. On MCM dough is possible, but not as comfortable as in a bowl, due to a hole in the center and a different mixing method. But, with a batter (whisk) - with a bang, with a dough for dumplings there is an excellent recipe that is very simple and popular, many on the forum use it https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=283291.0 That is, if the dough is needed 1-2 times a week, then MCM is an excellent option, if every day, then you need to adjust or MUM.

I hope my answer will help you decide.

[Miranda]

Miranda, thank you very much! The dough is not so important to me. There is, firstly, a bread maker, and secondly, now I cannot pies, maximum biscuit. So, I will probably look at the MSM side. I went to study the branch.

[anneta21]

anneta21,

I don't think the color is the difference.

Power ... Well, maybe there is a difference between 1000 and 1200, but definitely not between 1200 and 1250.

Completion ... Here you need to look at what you need. And how much is what you want to buy later. In the threads about MSM there is a discussion of additional. disks. The most expensive are fries and julienne (800 rubles + -), the average is slightly cheaper (600-700), for potato pancakes the cheapest (450-550). Whether you need a citrus press or cubes. Cubes are the most expensive purchase.

Just figure it out and decide what is more profitable to buy right away or then buy in addition. Well, take into account that prices are now unpredictable.

And yet, I don’t know in what city you are, but my friend, after my stories, wanted to buy like mine (MCM64085), but in her city the oldest model (MCM68885) was unexpectedly cheaper by 2.5 thousand. And since she I wanted only with cubes, and they both with cubes, then I took it. That is, look at prices and models.

Or if you want with cubes, then look also Bosch MCM 5529. There are also compatible discs, but a different design and a different rim. On it, the branch is https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...ion=com_smf&topic=22259.0

Good luck with your choice!

Girls and boys, help me pliz, I can't read all Temko on combines, but ... They choose dough mixers and hang at one point, in the same price range, and many sites position themselves as analogous in functionality to Kitchens and Kenwoods, Pains, Electroux. .. But! The Kitchens have a power of 300 !!! I have not yet sober up after the New Year, or what's the trick here ?!

Kitchens are made entirely of metal. And they have a powerful drive.

[anneta21]

anneta21but pain, kenwoods and electric suites - isn't it ?! And in terms of power, the power of the Kitchens is 300 - it is positioned as the coolest, and for example, my Bosch cube has 800, not very ..

[Ninelle]

Ninelle,

I don’t know the details about Kitchen, although I’m looking closely at both Kitchen and Kenwood, I’ll study in more detail when the time comes to make a final choice between them. And then as I study, I will be tormented by the desire to urgently buy

But I can assume that there may be about the same difference as in blenders.

The popular Bamiks from 120 W, the most popular superbox 200 W and Gastro 350 W. My Element has 120W. And many other blenders write loudly on their boxes - 800W, 1000W, even 1200W.

But both Bamiks and Element have a different motor principle.
And for blenders the most important characteristic is the speed of revolutions - from 10-12 thousand to 15-17 thousand and for gastro Bamiks up to 22 thousand revolutions per minute.

Namely, it depends on the speed of rotation of the knife and how quickly it will chop something.And the design of the motor allows Bamiks and Element to reach high rpm with a different motor design. Therefore, they are quiet and can last 5 minutes of continuous action, while other blenders write in instructions from 30 seconds. up to a maximum of 1 min. continuously, otherwise the motor will burn out.

This, of course, is not an entirely correct comparison. Since in practice, combines can work for at least half an hour continuously, and are arranged differently than hand blenders. I wrote this to you to show that different designs of motors / drives (DC or AC, internal circuits) can give similar or better results with different powers.

[Ninelle]

Ninelle,
If I'm not mistaken, then I saw an indication that the Kitchens have this working power, while Bosch and the others have peak power. That is, it is incorrect to compare numbers.

Bakers, help.
I am looking for a harvester with a planetary mixer and a meat grinder. First of all, I'm interested in a meat grinder for sausages, that is, for a decent amount of minced meat. But not wholesale, purely for your family of 3 people, well + treat friends.
And a kneader just to be comfortable and hands free. No claims for 1 kg of flour.

It seems to have stopped at Bosch. I rushed about that in the 4xxx series there was still not enough power for my sausages. It seems like I was going to take 5xxx.
But here the husband, a bad man, showed Klarstein.
99 euro, with meat grinder, planetary and blender. 1200w power.
And that's it, I have a stupor. Can you say something in essence? About the Bosch power comparison, about the Klarstein beast?

A new Philips HR7974 / 00 food processor has appeared. Average price 40,200 rubles.
General characteristics
A type
harvester
Power
1000 watts
Bowl capacity
4 l
Blender
yes, volume 1.2 l
Control
number of speeds: 7, pulse mode
Included
Juicer
for citrus
Meat grinder
there is
Miller
there is
Berry press
there is
Nozzles
utility knife, dough attachment, beater attachment
Execution
bowl: stainless steel steel, housing: plastic
Weight
7.64 kg

It seems to have stopped at Bosch. I rushed about that in the 4xxx series there is still not enough power for my sausages

MUM series 8XX or MAXIMUM https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=397246.0

MUM series 8XX or MAXIMUM

Nooo, I certainly admired these animals, but I limited my budget to 15-20 thousand. And they, well, do not fit.

[Obligaciya]

Obligaciya, look at Avito, Electrolux at a great price. Not used, online store is on sale. You can't give links, just enter "food processor" into the search engine ....

Found Kenwood 266 for 9990 rubles. Chet is suspiciously cheap
Electrolux has not yet found

About Kenwood 266 found only bad reviews. Klarstein is also scolded in the German Amazon. So I have to buy Bosch, I feel it.

Girls with Clatronic KM 3350? How do you like it?

[Ninelle]

Ninelle, thanks, I found the link Electrolux. Tomorrow I will call the Internet store asking about delivery to the region.

And I can't find ((Are there any other identifying signs? Figures from the model, metro?

[Obligaciya]

Obligaciya, look at the mail - I threw the link

As a result, I ordered Bosch Mum 48140DE in Germany. For some reason, we don't have such people at all. Well, let's see what kind of beast comes. I hope that the assembly for Germany will please me.

As a result, I ordered Bosch Mum 48140DE in Germany. For some reason, we don't have such people at all. Well, let's see what kind of beast comes. I hope that the assembly for Germany will please me.

So it is low-power, only 600 watts.

[Cirre]

Cirre, my kitchen has a power of 300 watts and does not plow anything normally.

[Obligaciya]

Obligaciya, I am sorry, did not see these messages. Well, since it is no longer relevant ... Share your impressions later?

So it is low-power, only 600 watts.

Well, the owners are happy. There is definitely enough for the dough. I hope there will be enough sausage meat too.

Obligaciya, I am sorry, did not see these messages. Well, since it is no longer relevant ... Share your impressions later?

Don't, don't, don't worry. They helped me find that Electrolux. Nice, but no meat grinder. And I should. At least for childish cutlets. For sausage on the edge I will take a separate meat grinder from a friend. True, she probably will take a bribe with sausage

Well, the owners are happy. There is definitely enough for the dough. I hope there will be enough sausage meat too.

Or maybe it was necessary to take the Bomann KM 379 or, if wanted, the Bosch MUM 4856, they are similar. I've sunk into the Clatronic.

[Obligaciya]

Obligaciya, but not a separate meat grinder is better?

Or maybe it was necessary to take the Bomann KM 379 or, if wanted, the Bosch MUM 4856, they are similar. I've sunk into the Clatronic.

Our German friend criticized these firms very much. Although I saw a lot of happy owners here.
I didn't quite understand what the essence of the order is mum 4856. It is also 600w. The price is higher, assembly for Russia.

Obligaciya, but not a separate meat grinder is better?

Perhaps better, but
A) takes place
B) I'll try Mum's, if I'm completely dead, I'll think about a separate one.

Our German friend criticized these firms very much.

Very interesting why? They are not quality or anything else. It's just that the price, unlike Kesha, is attractive. And they don't seem to be scolded.

Very interesting why?

Well, here it is necessary to make a remark that he is a maximalist, making good money at the same time, he uses Millie and the like for his home. He had never heard of Bomann at all, but he said about Klatronic that it was a very cheap, low-quality Chinese technique, with which all stores were piled high. I repeat, after rereading the topics about Clathronic and Bomann here, I saw a bunch of satisfied users, but there were also a lot of dissatisfied users. In general, I did not dare for myself.

Well, I'll try too, I hinted at the cache, they said I'll survive, they agreed to Klatronic

We have Bosch MUM 4 *** (some kind) in our family for 10 years already. Little by little I bought almost all possible additions to the combine. In the fall, all the workpieces pass through it, before the appearance of the bread machine, I kneaded the dough for pizza (I like to cook pizza) - the dough is 600 g of flour with a squeak but I twisted it, I constantly use it as a coffee grinder (it grinds great on steel millstones), there is a meat grinder, but we use it extremely rarely, so I can’t objectively evaluate it - all the more there is nothing to compare with. In short, I like this harvester and I support the choice ...

[Ninelle]

Ninelle, after buying a nozzle, a meat grinder for my kitchen, Panasonic gave a separate meat grinder to the children, since it is very convenient for me with a nozzle, I screwed the minced meat into the bowl and immediately mixed it, changing only the nozzle.

[Ninelle]

Ninelle, after buying a nozzle, a meat grinder for my kitchen, Panasonic gave a separate meat grinder to the children, since it is very convenient for me with a nozzle, I screwed the minced meat into the bowl and immediately mixed it, changing only the nozzle.

I'm using Mom's Delongy's meat grinder right now. I probably won't pick up a harvester with a meat grinder, mix the dough, minced meat. There is also a Bosch Cube, Bernard, for vegetables and this is enough, for small volumes of whipping - a Bosche blender. In general, you need a quality kneader. The rest will be a bonus. Although today, when I was making the custard, I thought longingly about Kenwood with induction ... But I can’t buy it yet, unfortunately.

I probably won't pick up a harvester with a meat grinder, mix the dough, minced meat.

Bosch has naked kneaders. Or do we not? In Germany there are several models, 4xxx and 5xxx with plastic and stainless bowls.

[Obligaciya]

Obligaciya, I don’t want to order from Germany, it’s not a rag, but God forbid what .. With a return, you’ll mess up!

[Ninelle]

Ninelle, we have been choosing Kesha 020 for a present for a long time. While they were calving, he jumped in price. As a result, we bought Boshik MUMXL20C.
Wow! I still take off my laurel wreaths. I realized that I really like it.

[Rituslya]

Rituslya, and how much did Kesha 020 cost when you started to choose?
Has the price increased by much?

Here I caught fire again, but now there is so much spending, and last year I bought a lot of everything, but on the other hand, the rising price can become an argument, here the dollar was worth 75 on the stock exchange today, which prices after the holidays I cannot even imagine.

[Miranda]

Miranda, we began to look closely at Kesha from 28 thousand at the end of November. Then we slipped 30, 32900, and 36. Already when we more or less regained consciousness, then everywhere he stood with a price of about 40.
Well, in the end, such a Boshik was bought in the region of 25 thousand with bonuses and discounts.

[Rituslya]

Rituslya, I have been choosing since the year before last, I decided that as soon as I decide my housing, I’ll buy everything, a dough mixer and a carpetlock (there’s nowhere to put it!), but we ran into such a realtor that we barely got out! And then the dollar jumped, and the people dared to go shopping ... Now I am dashing again ...

but we ran into such a realtor that we barely got out!

Oooh, it's good that we got out! This is where the priest could be. And the harvester will follow

[Rituslya]

Rituslya, wow!
Thanks, okay. And then I did not follow at all, deciding that I would think about it with the new kitchen.But, apparently, such a time that you need to think in reserve and ahead.