pljshik
A micro and mini grill was made for me in a frying pan Orchid (which is in the set, that is, holes and roughness together), And a pancake is made using a new technology, there is stainless steel, aluminum and stainless steel - trimetal, in short, a 3-layer sandwich made of metal ( I’ve done it!) I’ll make pancakes tomorrow, my granddaughter will come for the weekend!
Tanyusha
pljshik, and where can you buy these pans in Moscow?
Wit
Fuuuh! Less than a year later, the opupeya with frying pans ends happily. I consider my mission accomplished. What a fine fellow I am! Hello everyone, hostesses!
pljshik
Vit, you are wrong opupeya is just beginning! Progress does not stand still, so there are new Wishlist ahead! The new frying pan has now been prepared for tomorrow's test. I don't know, maybe these are my subjective feelings, but the inside of the pan seemed to me straight velvety, in short, I really liked it !!! Tanyusha in Moscow or at weekend fairs, at VDNKh where Belarus presents its products or call the IP Koroleva, there are very attentive girls! If you need to write the phone again !!! The main thing is to say the password - "I'm from the Breadmaker" !!!!
Song
Quote: pljshik
The main thing is to say the password - "I'm from the Breadmaker" !!!!

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pljshik
I made cottage cheese pancakes today in a new frying pan - they shot perfectly, the crust is crispy, the main thing is that nothing stuck !!!
thrift
pljshik, how you can call IP Korolev. I really want a frying pan. Thank you in advance.
Song
pljshik, Irina, can you show us a hybrid frying pan? pozyalistaaa
pljshik
Girls photo report on cooking pancakes
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Everything worked out great !!
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The frying pan passed the tests, I liked it. Usually the edges of the pancakes dry up, but here they are simply fried.
If you click on the photo, it will show with an increase in order to better examine the frying pan !!
pljshik
Anya, a photo of a frying pan on the previous page.
Song
Quote: pljshik
also they made a mini frying pan and a micro grill together.

I don't see any "holes" from the micro / grill / ... where have you gone? ...

pljshik
Anya micro and mini-grill were made together in a frying pan Orchid, and this is a completely new pan for pancakes (trimetal - steel + aluminum + steel), new technology (as I understood it)
Albina
pljshikHow much does such a frying pan cost? Can I use it on a ceramic surface?
vatruska
Girls, maybe I'm a fool - but why are there such large sides in a pancake pan?
selenа
vatruska, I would not call this frying pan a pancake either
Wit
Quote: selenа
I would not call this frying pan a pancake either.
ID's answer to yours and doubts on his home forum:

"Kuhmeister

Well, in fact, this universal-purpose frying pan (not only for pancakes), simply due to its shape of a container close to the so-called "Lyons", it became convenient to bake and pancakes on it (in contrast to the frying pan from the Lotus series with microgrill). Thanks to the "trimetal" construction, not only the bottom, but also the wall of the pan warms up well. In terms of its properties, this frying pan is close to the cast iron, but devoid of all its well-known drawbacks ... "


... decided not to stick in anymore! ...

Fysyo! Pokeda!
Ipatiya
Quote: Wit
I decided not to stick in any more! ...

Wit, it is very good that you "interrupt" and clarify unclear points. Thank you!
Wit
Then I ask here: 🔗 He supplemented this post with pictures of new pans.
Inusya
I am glad for your new thing! Super!

and I still live here ... without the desired pans. It did not work out either with Vitebsk or with St. Petersburg ...
But!...My neighbor, a Belarusian, is moving permanently to her historical homeland with her family next week. For the time being, I remain to look after the apartment (guess with what condition?) - right! - current in exchange for Kuhar! Now she will definitely not get out ... How long am I already suffering ...
Wit
Quote: Inusya
Dap I'm already suffering ...
Laaponka!

pljshik
Good morning everybody!! I answer in order, the height of the sides is 3.5 cm, the sides are beveled, so it is convenient to turn over and remove pancakes, it costs 3500.00 (I would like to be cheaper, but my nerves are more expensive for me), it is easy to wash, it does not burn - so there is no need to scrub the burnt-on fat deposits , but for me this is the main thing !! (we heat the pan correctly, and then everything goes fine). Many thanks to Ilya Nikolaevich for not disregarding my request and for sending me a frying pan by order (and everything else) !! If you still have questions, I will answer with pleasure!
marinastom
Quote: pljshik

... The height of the sides is 3.5 cm, ... costs 3500.00 ...
Each cm by piece ...
pljshik
Delivery is expensive, if there was a store like in St. Petersburg, I think it would be cheaper.
mr.Catlery
Microgrill on mini grill was made on a Magnolia series stewpan. Magnolia has a classic tank design (impact bottom). This is rather an experimental version than some kind of "new development". It is theoretically possible to make pancakes on this stewpan, but purely in terms of capacity (high sides and barrel-shaped form) it will be inconvenient. Microgrill expands the capabilities of the Magnolia stewpan in terms of dishes such as potatoes and scrambled eggs, and as you rightly noted, such a surface will also work better when frying meat. As for the serial production of such products, we ourselves have not yet finally decided on the appropriateness of this variety. If there is a favorable response from users, it is quite possible that we will make these products serial.
Inusya
Quote: Felice

I would need a set of pots of this Kuhar. And how can you get it to Ukraine? Can you tell me? The online store does not send them to us.

Heh, I'm already trying to get out of the way ... Ukraine, however ... You need to suffer them to see ...
Personally, I've already had two frustrations, bad luck is straight ... Now I again hope for a Belarusian neighbor.
Svetlana62
mr.Catlery, Ilya Nikolaevich, did you try to make a microgrill on a mini-grill on a trimetal? So I want a universal "unkillable" frying pan ... I have a trimetal Tupperware series "Mirage", I like it more than a five-layer "sandwich" of the "From Chef" series (specifically for cooking on an electric stove), but the bottom is even, and it does not always work without excesses, then I will underheat, then I will overheat before laying the products, sometimes it will burn. A microgrill on a mini-grill, it seems to me, would solve this problem. Somehow, this test for the pan's readiness for use with sprinkling of water and waiting for the "balls" seems dreary to me, like boiling jam syrup until a non-spreading drop. I would like to do without "dancing with tambourines" in everyday cooking.
Felice
Quote: Inusya
Heh, I'm already trying to get out of the way ... Ukraine, however ... You need to suffer them to see ...
Personally, I've already had two frustrations, bad luck is straight ... Now I again hope for a Belarusian neighbor.

My trip to Belarus is pecking. But you need to come, buy, leave. I won't have time to live there. Two days trip.
mr.Catlery
Quote: Svetlana62

mr.Catlery, Ilya Nikolaevich, did you try to make a microgrill on a mini-grill on a trimetal? So I want a universal "unkillable" frying pan ... I have a trimetal Tupperware series "Mirage", I like it more than a five-layer "sandwich" of the "From Chef" series (specifically for cooking on an electric stove), but the bottom is even, and it does not always work without excesses, then I will underheat, then I will overheat before laying the products, sometimes it will burn. A microgrill on a mini-grill, it seems to me, would solve this problem. Somehow, this test for the pan's readiness for use with sprinkling of water and waiting for the "balls" seems dreary to me, like boiling jam syrup until a non-spreading drop. I would like to do without "dancing with tambourines" in everyday cooking.

With any uncoated metal frying pan, the heating must be selected individually and there is always the likelihood of a "lumpy first pancake." Microgrill allows you to improve the surface without coating in terms of anti-stick effect, in terms of properties it works in approximately the same way as cast iron and is in no way inferior to it in durability. The very process of making such a material as trimetal does not allow you to create a mini-grill separately, only at the bottom of the pan. Therefore, for trimetal, only one microgrill is possible. This can be done without any problems on a traditional construction (bottom impact). As for the tests with water balls, described in the instructions, this is an entry level for an inexperienced user. Simply the instruction should give as much information as possible in order to any the potential consumer did not suffer a fiasco at the very beginning of his acquaintance with the new product. Dishes are a tool, if the tool is professional, and the user has good skills, then everything will definitely work out. If the instrument is bad, then no skill will help. Catching the optimum heat level quickly is also a special skill that can be learned through trial and error. The system consists of many variables, this is the stove with its features and the dishes and the person himself, and the products are also by and large. Even mood sometimes plays a decisive role. Cooking is no less complex and creative process than drawing or playing music. It all depends on how the person feels about it. Either as necessary and inevitable, or with pleasure and creativity ...
Svetlana62
Quote: Mr. Catlery
Cooking is no less complex and creative process than drawing or playing music. It all depends on how the person feels about it. Either as necessary and inevitable, or with pleasure and creativity ...

I agree entirely. I will wait for the appearance of a "pancake" frying pan on sale, I really liked it.
Inusya
and I am already rubbing my hands, making a list for my Belarusian neighbor. I'll check my luck one more time. Can it grow together this time?
And who will say that if she lives in Vitebsk, she will be able to order dishes from Minsk by some courier service? (in Vitebsk this dish is not available, have already checked) I hope there is an online store in Belarus?
We have nowhere to rush, a neighbor will come back already in the spring, so I clarify in advance (so that she does not get away with it))))
Svetta
Quote: Inusya

and I am already rubbing my hands, making a list for my Belarusian neighbor. I'll check my luck one more time. Can it grow together this time?
And who will say that if she lives in Vitebsk, she will be able to order dishes from Minsk by some courier service? (there is no such dishes in Vitebsk, already checked) I hope there is an online store in Belarus?
We have nowhere to rush, a neighbor will come back already in the spring, so I clarify in advance (so that she does not get away with it))))

Innusya, she broke off my wings too ... My friend also lives in Vitebsk, I have already soaped up her order for the summer to do on dishes. Keep in touch here where and how you can buy these dishes in Vitebsk, I also want.
Inusya
Light, so I will "rape" her so that she can find out everything, even from Minsk, at least from where she wants to, but I will not let her go home until she finds the dishes there))) I will unsubscribe later - that I will find out ...
pljshik
Good Morning Bread Makers! Good news for the new pans! Ilya Nikolayevich brings to mind 24 and 26 cm. So you can get in line soon !!! The pan is really wonderful, I use it almost every day and not only for pancakes. I think that personally for pancakes I will order 26 cm, so that it is more convenient to make stuffed pancakes (they love me very much), and then you will need 24 cm. No more coatings needed - only steel ones !!
Sweetlana78
pljshik, The news is good, I still don't understand how to order it in Russia? This miracle dish? I already dream of these pans and my mother has been asking for a long time to buy her from a stainless steel ..Because our dad loves to cook breakfast himself, but he is old school and you can't explain to him how you can't scratch a frying pan with a fork .. For example, or turn it over with a knife while cooking, so I dream about these frying pans ... on the website of the online store St. Petersburg, the prices are somehow not encouraging compared to the official website of the manufacturer, the difference is at least 3 times
marinastom
... they said that it is not recommended to scrape with a fork-knife ...
And with these pans you will not have to handle anyhow.
pljshik
If you take just a steel frying pan, then of course you can use it with a fork and a knife, but your hand will not rise over trimetal! In Moscow, it turns out to be more expensive to buy than in the St. Petersburg store, since they are taken to order. We must ask Ilya Nikolaevich to open an online store in Moscow, I believe that the dishes will be in demand, and not only new frying pans. I have a set of pots Orchid, a double boiler, I also bought a new steamer for the pan, I took one kettle (and ordered it with a whistle)! Who comes - almost everyone asks - where did you buy such beauty !?
Sweetlana78
And if not made of trimetal, but just a micro grill, the one that has stainless steel and a grooved bottom, you can also scratch it down? What does a gourmet have to buy? The Moskovsky online store is needed only if the price there is lower than in St.
mr.Catlery
Microgrill is the same metal surface (there is no coating) only with the created microrelief and is slightly harder than a regular metal surface. If the instructions contain a restriction on the use of metal objects in this pan, then this is not due to a possible loss of its properties, but to the preservation of its appearance. The microgrill can only be removed by grinding the microroughnesses with an abrasive tool, vryatli someone at home will do this.
Olga VB
Girls-boys, someone came across Lion sabatier international granite cookware with a 4-layer non-stick coating Ilag granetec (Switzerland)
And then the 7th continent muddied some kind of action with this dish at the finish line, so I'm thinking about collecting chips or another scam on it.
As a result, the price can be from 800 to 1500 rubles, depending on the diameter of the pan, stewpan or saucepan.
Wit
I will not give a tip to the post at a glance, but in this topic, IN has already explained that it is optimal THREE layers. Anything with 4, 5, 120 layers is bullshit. The fourth layer may be a round piece of iron to make the vessel heavier to the detriment of heating. Go straight home to IN on his Smorgon forum. I gave the address somewhere recently or ask pljshik... She recently visited there.
mr.Catlery
Recently, the so-called "stone" non-stick coatings have come into vogue, to which the mentioned Olga VB ILAG Granitec coating (see. 🔗 ). Other well-known AP manufacturers - DuPont, Whitford, Wellburger - have this type of coating. The essence of these coatings is the same, they are all made on the basis of PTFE (as a rule, they are 3-layer reinforced coatings) and have a decorative layer imitating "stone" inclusions. The essence of such decoration lies in the fact that the "stone" appearance is associated by the buyer with the durability and reliability of the product as a whole. Any good coating must still be of high quality, observing the technology, applied to the pan, and the pan itself must also be of high quality, then such a purchase will delight the consumer. Any dishware can participate in promotions, sometimes with such promotions it is possible to buy a fairly high-quality item for a low price, what exactly this dishware is, it's hard to say ...
Sibiryachka123
Hello. Tell someone who used such a cast-iron saucepan. Enamel coating. firm VITESSE. Sooooo hard. Here's a link. Seemingly inserted correctly
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kirch
I have this only without coverage. Common cast iron.
Sibiryachka123
I know not by hearsay that cast iron is very good for cooking. When I was little I remember we had like a cast-iron saucepan, also with enamel.But in Soviet times, they did so that it was possible to use dishes for 20 years and not know grief. That pan served us for 15-17 years. Recently thrown out. I want to buy this Vitesse, but I'm worried about the quality of the enamel. So I'm thinking of taking risks or not? The thing is not cheap. 2,000 rubles
kirch
It says there is a non-stick coating. And such a coating, you know from the pans, is not durable. But it does not stick to it. And everything sticks to the enamel, you can only extinguish in it. That's why I bought pure cast iron, although certain actions are needed with it.
Olga VB
Wit, mr.Catlery, thank you so much!
Of course, if I get involved in this matter, I will carefully look, but experience suggests that not everything that looks good will justify expectations in the future.
However, it is quite possible to take a frying pan for a sample, especially since it seems that I will soon have to change just one.
pljshik
Olya good evening! I used to also periodically change pans, I also had a stone coating. But after last year I switched entirely to steel dishes, I realized that I used to throw money away, taking advertising on faith. Nobody before the respected Kuhmeister could explain how to use it correctly, how to operate
Olga VB
pljshik, thanks, I went to that site.
But there is a local site of some small Belarusian town and local production.
It is not very clear how much better this really is than some other "local production".
Moreover, as I understood, the prices are very high, and their products are not sold in Moscow either - neither look nor touch.
Or have I misunderstood something?
pljshik
Olya in this town produce Kuhar dishes. And on the site on the right there are discussed topics, there is "Cookware". It is there that they discuss this dish, and also shows the preparation of various dishes in it. Regarding local or non-local production, everything is produced somewhere, and where is the guarantee that it is not in the basement. I am not an agent for the promotion of Kuhar dishes, I had and still have good dishes from Germany, I also bought a Gourmet, I even have dishes from Tupper. But not a single manufacturer treats its customers as reverently as Ilya Nikolayevich, explains, shows and tells (man has enough patience for all of us). In order not to burn out in our time, companies do not need quality, they need to buy more, but how to make them buy - they need to invent and call new words everything that is already there! And to buy or not is already your decision and right !! I have already made my choice!
cvezu
Quote: Sibiryachka123
Hello. Tell someone who used such a cast-iron saucepan. Enamel coating. firm VITESSE. Sooooo hard. Here's a link. Seemingly inserted correctly
🔗 More details: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=186131.0

I have a saucepan of their company (only a smaller size), I wanted enameled cast iron for myself (my mother used to have a similar one, memories are the most rosy).
This saucepan is a complete disappointment. The enamel on the walls peeled off very quickly. Moreover, it did not break off, but it exfoliated, in some places the shells
were not up to metal. I even wanted to take it back to them (since they sold it with a guarantee), but I was too lazy.

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