pljshik
Olya good morning! You read on the Smorgon forum, they just write about cooking. The main thing is to properly warm the pan, then grease it with oil (vegetable or olive) a little more, and then lay out the products. The most important thing is correct heating, and not boil immediately, but allow a crust to form. I used to have problems with washing off burnt oil on the walls of pans, and after studying the forum on the Smorgon site, servicing the dishes takes a minimum of time and detergents, for me this is very important, since my hands are very sensitive. New pans are generally super, steel pancakes fly like clockwork (I don't even know what to compare the process of making pancakes, except for this expression). No carbon deposits form on the walls! And of course we hope that Ilya Nikolaevich will open an online store in Moscow. Yes, the dishes are not cheap, but count, if once a year you do not buy another so-called "novelty" with a super coating, but buy one worthy frying pan, then the savings will be real!
Sibiryachka123
Quote: cvezu
This saucepan is a complete disappointment. The enamel on the walls peeled off very quickly. Moreover, it did not break off, but it exfoliated, in some places the shells
Thank you so much. for answer. I almost bought it yesterday. I was stopped by doubts that before the Soviet Union did everything reliably, but here it seems like China. I won't buy it. Although she looks so tempting.
Chef
I did not delve much into it, I caught only lengthy bickering. Participated in them adviser, mr.Catlery, vedmacck and pljshik in this thread until the New Year it is not allowed to write.
olga0101
I am catastrophically unlucky with pans (((
advise, eh?
now I have 2 large ones, one made of stainless steel, the other with a ceramic coating ..
in the first it is annoying that it needs to be very hot in order to cook without problems and without sticking.
I don't like the second, although damn it was so expensive

decided that I needed a frying pan with a good quality non-stick coating.
tell me which companies to pay attention to.
nuance - I have an induction cooker.
Wit
Olya, the answers to your questions are given in this topic exhaustive. I understand that it is tedious to shovel 60 pages. However, there is a nuance. This topic can be read like a book. You will learn a lot of interesting things for yourself. And about pots, and about pans, and about coatings. After all, you have asked questions: "Why, in fact, is" Ceramic ", is there clay? And" stone "is how?" Mr. Catlery, who was banned from writing here before the New Year, is the head of the production of metal dishes. Here he is unlikely to appear. Yes, and I will not go here again. I don't want to voice the reason. And you flip a couple of pages back and I think you will be interested in the topic. She is very informative, somewhere with humor, somewhere ... You will not get bored. Good luck to you!

Take a look here: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=186131.40 ... The link is active. That would not shovel the whole topic. And always remember that the Zavlekalovs call "ceramics" GEL, the main component of which is polyorganosiloxane. It has only silicon in common with ceramics. And even then not in pure form, but its oxides. SiO. I don't want to write anything about "marble". Read the link above.
And already as a little fun: About brands. Be careful.


About brands
xxx: Mainly the same tableware manufacturers are represented on the Russian and Ukrainian markets. They have become familiar in stores, they are heavily advertised on TV and in culinary and near-culinary magazines.These are the firms Gipfel, BergHOFF, Vinzer, Vitess, Bergner, Rondell, etc. All these firms claim that they have a long history, they are world famous, their dishes are very high quality, made in Germany, Belgium, France, Switzerland, etc. n. And I wondered if this is really so. If you enter the name of Vinzer in Google, the very first link to the site will be 🔗... We go in and see that the site is in Russian, there is an opportunity to view the site in English, the slogan says "In the best traditions of Switzerland", and in "Contacts" we find the coordinates of commercial firms of the post-Soviet space and the CMEA countries, and the coordinates of some Austrian firm. I have a question: where is the Swiss website of the company? I think that it does not exist at all and the Swiss have not even heard of such dishes. Searching for Rondell leads directly to 🔗, in contacts Moscow, Berlin, Kiev. There is a Ukrainian site, a Russian one, but where is the native one - German? Believe it or not - I found it, I think I was mistaken, I was wrong that I suspected the manufacturer of deception. I go to the site 🔗 and I see ... car tires. In short, a search on all the other dishware companies had the same results - no trace of German, French or other foreign company websites was found. Although maybe I was looking badly? Probably, you just need to come to terms with the fact that all the dishes on our market are made in Russia, Ukraine and China. Most likely in China. On the other hand, why cheat the buyer so impudently? The switch changes the language of the Russian site from Russian to English or German. Google for Röndell only finds sites in Russian praising this wonderful German dish. Only for some reason in the German segment of Google no one knows about this wonderful tableware.
Left July 13, 2010
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After reading this amusing information and connecting her advanced husband, an IT specialist, to the search, I found out that the author of this post did not lie in a single word: of all these well-known brands, only BergHOFF and Moneta really exist where they are declared - in Belgium and Italy. Dishes of all other "brands" are made at best in Russia or Ukraine, at worst in China.
Somehow I felt sad
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BergHOFF and Moneta
Having looked at several options of various manufacturers in stores, after looking, touching and sniffing, they opted for the German company Rondell. It seems to be made beautifully, thoughtfully and very soundly, a nice box and all that (while it is difficult to say something more capacious - only two days from the purchase).
After the purchase, of course, I went to the Internet to study the issue of "German quality for professionals."

Searching for Rondell leads directly to 🔗, in contacts Moscow, Berlin, Kiev. There is a Ukrainian site, a Russian one, but where is the native German one? After a little straining, I did find it ... Well, I think, in vain I suspected the manufacturer of deception. I go to the site 🔗 and I see ... car tires. In short, the search did not give any traces of exactly German quality.

Climbed to dig deeper - yes, in fact, very far and did not need to climb.
On the official website of RosNIIROS quickly broke through the domain. It turned out that the domain was registered at LLC Business Alliance. And the legs grow from the office of Golder Electronics ( 🔗), which makes the Vitek technique and whose owner is Mr. A. Derevyanchenko. There, even when registering a domain, the soap is indicated on and golder-

Here is the "German quality for professionals" ... More: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...tion=com_smf&topic=3127.0


Arinna
Quote: olga0101

I am catastrophically unlucky with pans (((
advise, eh?

decided that I needed a frying pan with a good quality non-stick coating.
tell me which companies to pay attention to.
nuance - I have an induction cooker.
Excellent Bergner frying pan with marble coating, for induction. The coating is super strong, it has been in the kitchen for two years already, it does not burn or stick, it is smooth to the touch. All is well, but I don’t see it anymore, I’m on sale anymore. If there is an equivalent one, I would definitely buy it. Can anyone advise !?
Song
adviser, don't start building the garden again ...
Quote: Chef

adviser, mr.Catlery, vedmacck and pljshik in this thread until the New Year it is not allowed to write.
selenа
olga0101,
Quote: olga0101
nuance - I have an induction cooker
if you can make friends with a cast iron frying pan, then you will be happy for many years induction and cast iron - forever
olga0101
Wit, yes I read)) and read the skirmish))
I just don't want any stainless steel or "ceramics"))
I want a non-stick coating, I really like the bowl in my head.
I think there are pans with similar coatings.
Quote: counselor
Tefal is not so expensive, Taormina will be more expensive. But these are very high quality and reliable coatings, time-tested.
It's not a problem to buy this tefal at all, it is sold at every intersection. Ballarini is more complicated, mainly in online stores.
thanks, I will take a closer look at these firms
Quote: selenа
if you can make friends with a cast iron frying pan, then you will be happy for many years induction and cast iron - forever
that is, is cast iron friendly with induction?))
I don't need much - I need a pancake one and for scrambled eggs)) everything else is prepared in the cartoon oven
selenа
Olga, cast iron is best friends with induction, if most modern pans have an iron-containing insert in the bottom, then cast iron is a "solid ferum" Ukrainian and Finnish are all equally good.
Rita
olga0101I don't know if you have a Hackmann? Their pancake pans are wonderful, I can't get enough of it. But I don't recommend ceramics from them.
selenа
I have a Hackmann cast iron pan
olga0101
selenа, and give me a link? I want to understand what kind of pans I'm talking about) otherwise I have an idea of ​​cast iron - memories from childhood)))
Quote: Rita
don't know if you have a Hackmann? Their pancake pans are wonderful, I can't get enough of it.
I can't find it for now.
adviser, thanks for the links, tomorrow I'll study it.)))
selenа
olga0101, Olya, look at their online store a lot of all sorts of different things, including cast-iron dishes and SNG, and any other, and there are also plenty of non-stick dishes.
olga0101
selenа, they have delivery only in Moscow (
But in general, tell me, are there any nuances in using cast-iron pans?
for example, do you need to anneal them or what else to do with them?
for example, I want to fry pancakes or scrambled eggs, what are my actions? heat it up first?
selenа
Olga, Ol, that's why I wrote "if you make friends with her." There are certain rules for its preparation (one-time) and care. And if you do everything right, then you just take a clean frying pan, put it on the stove, grease it with oil and you have a bunch of pancakes. if you decide to buy, read it. Buy a small frying pan for scrambled eggs for testing, they are usually not expensive, maximum 500 rubles, try it and you will be happy
olga0101
selenа, so I think I'll take tefalka and cast iron for a test, will we succeed in friendship or not))
I saw them on sale cheap, but did not dare to buy. Need to try.
My "ceramics" from vitesse for pancakes breathes in incense (
marinastom
Olga, here such found Temko. Maybe it will come in handy?
Chef
adviser, take a month off
Kuhmeister
BIOL began to make good cast-iron pans. (cm. 🔗)
Inusya
Have you read that there is this "Biol" in Ukraine too? .......
Yolki-sticks, if I understood correctly, is it made in Melitopol?
Strange, for some reason I never came across in the store ...
Albina
I have been using Neva cast iron pans for 3 years already. First I bought a deep one, and then a pancake. But when I fry pancakes, I still use both.
Bijou
How are you waving cast iron in the air so that the pancake spreads ?? Or is it just me so frail that I tear my pot of 24 cm off the table with both hands?

I fry pancakes exclusively in stainless steel, put two pans and go. And then the big hand gets tired. ((
Kuhmeister
Quote: Albina

I have been using Neva cast iron pans for 3 years already. First I bought a deep one, and then a pancake. But when I fry pancakes, I still use both.
Neva - this must be understood Neva metal dishes or what? So this enterprise only produces cast aluminum cookware with non-stick coating see So one of two things: either the pans are not cast iron, or they were not produced by the Neva ...
Svetta
Quote: Inusya

Have you read that there is this "Biol" in Ukraine too? .......
Yolki-sticks, if I understood correctly, is it made in Melitopol?
Strange, for some reason I never came across in the store ...

Innusya, here 🔗... We sell a lot of biolovskoy dishes, sooo good.

There is even such an interesting frying pan Oladnitsa 🔗
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And in the Dnieper they make "Seaton" cast-iron dishes, which are also wonderful!
Admin
Pot with partition and glass lid, diameter 26 cm, suitable for all types of hobs, including induction.
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dopleta
Oh, what a cool saucepan! Really want to! And the color of my countertop too! Thank you, buy! Previously I saw it with partitions only for fondue, aluminum, ugly, by no means like this:

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Admin
Quote: dopleta

Oh, what a cool saucepan! Really want to! And the color of my countertop too! Thank you, buy!

Larissa, FOR HEALTH!

I looked and thought - maybe I need to heap two soups, two porridges to cook in one bottle - cool
Katya1234
Admin, dopleta,

And then how to scrape the remains out of the corners? I would have preferred two saucepans.
Taia
Quote: Katya1234
And then how to scrape the remains from the corners?

The dishwasher will wash.
I mean, a car.
Admin
Quote: Katya1234

Admin, dopleta,

And then how to scrape the remains out of the corners? I would have preferred two saucepans.

How - a silicone spatula works well.
And in order to save gas or electricity - there is a difference to put two pots on two burners, or two different cereals on one stove
dopleta
Quote: Admin
in order to save gas or electricity
And places on the stove.
dopleta
Quote: Katya1234
And then how to scrape the remains out of the corners? I would have preferred two saucepans.
Not so sharp corners there. The dishwasher can handle even more difficult terrain. And we already have two saucepans, and twice two, and five we already have two, but we don't.
Sadness - delivery only in Moscow. There is a goal! Again, Tanya, thanks, otherwise I was already bored without the wishlist.
Rada-dms
Quote: Admin

Pot with partition and glass lid, diameter 26 cm, suitable for all types of cookers, including induction.

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🔗

Eh, you have to buy! I imagined that I was carcassing, for example, cabbage, one with a tomato. like pasta, I am with other additives, very convenient!
dopleta
Quote: Rada-dms
Eh, I'll have to buy!
Why doom and frustration in your voice? I would be happy if I were you, you have something close by!
Admin
Quote: dopleta


Sadness - delivery only in Moscow. There is a goal! Again, Tanya, thanks, otherwise I was already bored without the wishlist.

To your health!

Shcha, the bread maker will fall on the pots and the site will collapse again and the pots will run out in one go ...
Sadness that the site is on vacation until the 12th, the questions are not answered properly
Katya1234
Quote: dopleta

Not so sharp corners there. The dishwasher can handle even more difficult terrain. And we already have two saucepans, and twice two, and five we already have two, but we don't.

Yes, there is no such thing yet. But her price, of course, is biting. Twirl it in your hands.
Irina Dolars
Quote: Admin

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Nice saucepan for two courses!
Price yes ... biting
If any of you will buy, do it slowly so that the price does not rise even higher
vedmacck
Irina, is this from experience with Nordic forms?
Babushka
Yes, the saucepan makes sense .. I might have bought this. In one part, chicken-fish-meat, and in the other rice. Eat for one meal ...
dopleta
Quote: Babushka
Eat for one meal
For one? The saucepan is rather big! 26 cm.
Babushka
Will the grandchildren come from the next doorway? Rice lovers ...




And also Tom Yum and rice .....
dopleta
I have a frying pan with three sections, now I really wanted this saucepan ...
Irina Dolars
vedmacck, Tanyusha, our women of forum have more than once made "forays" to different trading "points", and now we can safely take the slogan: "experience is the son of difficult mistakes"
Admin
Quote: Babushka

And also Tom Yum and rice .....

Well, dreaming right now, let's run to the site
Babushka
But they don't send to us anyway ... as usual ...
Crochet
I look towards such a frying pan:

Frying pan Tescoma "I-Premium Stone"

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A massive frying pan with a unique non-stick coating that has the properties of unpolished natural stone, which allows dishes to be baked evenly, without burning, as well as to preserve their natural aroma and juiciness.

Suitable for all types of cookers: electric, gas ceramic and induction

Can be washed in the dishwasher.



My friends , nobody uses it?
Fofochka
Girls to all who need cast-iron pans and cauldrons. Come to Gardener 8line
Fofochka
Anyone interested in write in a personal.
Njashka
Hello everyone!
Interested in a review about brand name saucepans TRAMONTINA,
Does anyone have how they serve in their work?

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