EVA_
Quote: Irina166

Come on "you". Irin, can you buy this miracle device (thermometer) in the economic department?
I'm not Irina, but I can add. You can also buy an aquarium thermometer in pet supplies. Choose shorter. Remove the suction cup and you get a streamlined one and nothing more. I sterilize by pouring boiling water over. Measuring the pace at the bottom of the yogurt maker is of course convenient, but I prefer to dip it to the bottom in one of the cups and leave it that way until the end. And I see the current product temperature, not the maximum bottom. This is especially convenient when using cold milk.
irysska
EVA_
A good idea! The only thing that is not recommended is to dissolve the starter culture in cold milk, since this is not a very comfortable environment for baciliks and, as a result, the final product will be more viscous. It's better to put lukewarm milk all the same, but with a thermometer it's cool
EVA_
Quote: irysska

The only thing that is not recommended is to dissolve the starter culture in cold milk, since this is not a very comfortable environment for bacilli and, as a result, the final product will be more viscous
wow, I didn't know. True, if you look at it this way: bacilli are also from the refrigerator, and you just dilute them with milk of the same temperature .. Maybe they are just uncomfortable with temperature changes?
irysska
Quote: EVA_

wow, I didn't know. True, if you look at it this way: bacilli are also from the refrigerator, and you just dilute them with milk of the same temperature .. Maybe they are just uncomfortable with temperature changes?
but who knows, these bacil
they recommend it, I do it myself
EVA_
And I just recently began to strain the fuss of boiling / cooling. I went lazy with UHT milk. Even heat break. But today I will heat up and compare
irysska
Quote: EVA_

And I just recently began to strain the fuss of boiling / cooling. I went lazy with UHT milk. Even heat break. But today I will heat up and compare
And I don't strain
I use pasteurized milk, but I never boil it. I just pour the milk into jars, heat it up in a micron, then add a working starter to each jar (this is in the case of over-culture) and go. If I make it from powdered sourdough, then I pour the milk, for example, into a liter jar, heat it up in a micron, and in a separate jar I dilute the sourdough culture in lukewarm water, then it is warmed up into milk, then pour it into cups and forth.
EVA_
Quote: irysska

I use pasteurized milk, but I never boil it.
oh, I confess, and I did so, just while I'm experimenting, now this way, then this way ...
and in your ugh what is the shelf life of your pasteurized - also a week?
irysska
Quote: EVA_

oh, I confess, and I did that, just while I'm experimenting, now this way, then this way ...
and in your ugh what is the shelf life of your pasteurized - also a week?
Zhen, on the milk I use, the shelf life is 72 hours, which means 3 days
Irina166
Quote: irysska

I raise the milk to 38 C, I also mix the working starter culture in such heated milk (or dry in the same warm water). Or you can cut a circle from a plump silicone hot stand to the bottom.
I went for a walk with the child, and immediately went to the store. I bought a hot stand made of silicone. In my Severin fit perfectly. But with a thermometer strained. I read about the pet store later. And in the shops they offered me water. But there is only up to 30 degrees. I'll go tomorrow. I generally keep quiet about dimmers. I open America to them (sellers) !!!! They look at me as if begged. Not Moscow, but a general store like
Oh it's hard to be a mom
Irina166
Girls, can you tell me what consistency should yogurt have? For the first time I cooked it from dry Evitalia, it turned out this way ... In a thick jar. Sits firmly when the jar is turned over. And you mix it to become more liquid and a little grainy. And if you leave the floor of the jar for later, then a little moisture is released. I certainly understand. that it shouldn't be like the store. But how should it be?
irysska
Ir, it's not hard to be a mother, but a user of imperfect technology (almost all yogurt makers are like that now).
You test with silicone - everything will be fine.
irysska
Quote: Irina166

Girls, can you tell me what consistency should yogurt have? This is the first time I cooked from dry Evitalia, it turned out this way ... In a thick jar. Sits firmly when the jar is turned over. And you mix it to become more liquid and a little grainy. And if you leave the floor of the jar for later, then a little moisture is released. I certainly understand. that it shouldn't be like the store. But how should it be?
Ir, with this question you need right here
In general, it should be more or less thick, with stirring it will in any way become more liquid, BUT HOMOGENEOUS, without grains.
irysska
Lara_
How is your "Smile" doing? Have you overcome her harmful nature?
Irina166
Quote: irysska

Ir, with this question you need right here
In general, it should be more or less thick, with stirring it will in any way become more liquid, BUT HOMOGENEOUS, without grains.
Irina, thanks for sending !!! I went to another branch. I will study. I'm a beginner
irysska
Quote: Irina166

Irina, thanks for sending !!! I went to another branch. I will study. I'm a beginner
Yes, not a question, if necessary, then I'll send it to the right place in another branch
Contact
vyt
Quote: Irina166

Girls, can you tell me what consistency should yogurt have? This is the first time I cooked from dry Evitalia, it turned out this way ... In a thick jar. Sits firmly when the jar is turned over. And you mix it to become more liquid and a little grainy. And if you leave the floor of the jar for later, then a little moisture is released. I certainly understand. that it shouldn't be like the store. But how should it be?
this is normal. I make this ready-made yogurt in the refrigerator for an hour, then I take it out, put the sugar on it. I mix powder, or jam, or fruit, and for another hour or two in the refrigerator, then you can eat it, and it is thick without whey
Murzonya
Quote: shira

Can you ask about the thermometer, what is it and where do you put it in the yogurt maker? [
Already answered in the topic, I'll show mine (I have alcohol for an aquarium on a suction cup from a pet store):
Yoghurt maker - selection, reviews, questions about operation (1)
I lower it to the bottom, or straight into the jar, now it is raised for a photo, or that it would be better to see the degrees through the fogged lid.
irysska
Quote: Murzonya

Already answered in the topic, I'll show mine (I have alcohol for an aquarium on a suction cup from a pet store):
Yoghurt maker - selection, reviews, questions about operation (1)
I lower it to the bottom, or straight into the jar, now it is raised for a photo, or that it would be better to see the degrees through the fogged lid.
Well, you are great - you seriously tuned the yogurt maker
Murzonya
Quote: irysska

Well, you are great - you seriously tuned the yogurt maker
Thank you, child-inspiring!
Risa
Good day to all). Can you please tell me whether it is worth buying Dex Dym-108, does it overheat much?
rusja
Risa
one of the rare types of yogurt makers that DOES NOT OVERHEAT AT ALL or extremely rarely, in especially hot cases of summer. She is here at half of the forum (which are from Ukraine), you will not regret.I tell you, as an authoritative user, even by inheritance she passed on from me, nurses the second generation
Risa
rusja, thanks a lot. My husband is going to Kiev on a business trip, I will ask him to buy it if he finds it). Please tell me whether it will be possible to put one liter or two half-liter glass jars instead of glasses or a bowl for cottage cheese?
rusja
Quote: Risa
will it be possible to put one liter or two half-liter glass jars in it instead of glasses or a bowl for cottage cheese?
One liter is definitely possible, I even put an almost two-liter jug ​​for ryazhenka, but then my own lid will not close, I solved this issue with a light blanket on top - if this is summer and a blanket - if in winter. But two half liters, I think it will not rise, it is wide, but not so much. Girls manage to put jars of some kind of shit, if you have time to look, one time irysska and mona, they were actively discussed
Risa
I understood everything, thank you very much.)
irysska
Yes, we discussed, there was such a thing. Instead of glasses, there will be 7 jars of marinado horseradish or mustard, so you can buy it along with the yogurt maker.
As a user of Dex 108 I confirm - does not overheat
Feniks
Hello everyone living on the forum. I have a Clathronic yogurt maker without jars, old, really. I never wondered what quality she makes yoghurts. Then I decided to please the kids and at the same time measured the temperature - 50 degrees. Oh-la-la .. I got off my hands, looking for a thermostat on the Internet .. We have soooo prices in Moscow - about 1300 rubles, and that's for warm floors. Dimmer, after going through several shops, did not find - there are only built-in ones. I read that the user "The Hedgehog's Wife" ordered a thermostat by mail - if you read my letter, then write how long did you wait for it and how did you pay? And if you do not need it, because there is a timer in your yogurt maker, then I will buy it with pleasure. I really want to feed my family with live food, not dead bacteria ..
irysska
Quote: Feniks

Hello everyone living on the forum. I have a Clathronic yogurt maker without jars, old, really. I never wondered what quality she makes yoghurts. Then I decided to please the kids and at the same time measured the temperature - 50 degrees. Oh-la-la .. I got off my hands, looking for a thermostat on the Internet .. We have soooo prices in Moscow - about 1300 rubles, and that's for warm floors. I didn’t find the dimmer after going through several shops - there are only built-in ones. I read that the user "The Hedgehog's Wife" ordered a thermostat by mail - if you read my letter, then write how long did you wait for it and how did you pay? And if you don't need it, because there is a timer in your yogurt maker, then I will buy it with pleasure. I really want to feed my family with live food, not dead bacteria ..
So and you write to the hedgehog's wife in Personal messages - he will read it faster.
And so Pintusha also from Russia and bought a thermostat from Ukraine.
irysska
rusja-Olechka
and I have already sent an order for Lactina (though it will be 3 weeks later, since she will go to me with another parcel - well, so as not to pay for delivery 2 times), so I should still try this elusive Lactina
rusja
Quote: irysska

rusja-Olechka
and I have already sent an order for Lactina (though it will be 3 weeks later, since she will go to me with another parcel - well, so as not to pay for delivery 2 times),
CONGRATULATIONS
Are you expecting her from China?
irysska
Quote: rusja

CONGRATULATIONS
Are you expecting her from China?

well, almost .... I'm waiting for China, and Lactin I go there Lozja will put it in and send it to me - and while she stays with her, they still ordered together
rusja
Will sho tada come from China?
irysska
Quote: rusja

Will sho tada come from China?
yes the scales are small by 1 kg with an accuracy of 0.1 (this is the main one); up to a heap of earplugs (I will save myself from neighbors-tenants), an electronic timer for the kitchen (I already bought myself - a thing that is much more convenient than a mechanical one - and this is for a gift) and a pair of flashlights.
rusja
Absolutely Necessary Things
Have you tried to deal with lodgers (except for earplugs)?
irysska
Quote: rusja

Have you tried to deal with lodgers (except for earplugs)?
We tried - to all the answer "we are in our apartment - therefore we do what we want, we are not in your apartment - so do not fool your head." And the owner of the house is from the lads like, it's completely useless to talk to him - in any case, right in the face with a fist. Therefore, earplugs remain
Mona1
Quote: irysska

We tried - to all the answer "we are in our apartment - therefore we do what we want, we are not in your apartment - so do not fool your head."And the owner of the hut is from the lads like, it's completely useless to talk to him - in any case, right in the face with a fist. Therefore, earplugs remain
Do you remember, at Khazanov's: "Spray half a portion of the daily cabbage soup from our cafeteria around the apartment. And by the morning not only cockroaches will run away from you, ALL NEIGHBORS will run away from you"
irysska
Quote: Mona1

Do you remember, at Khazanov's: "Spray half a portion of the daily cabbage soup from our cafeteria around the apartment. And by the morning not only cockroaches will run away from you, ALL NEIGHBORS will run away from you"
This is exactly Very subtly noticed
azaza
Quote: irysska

We tried - to all the answer "we are in our apartment - so we do what we want, we are not in your apartment - so do not fool your head." And the owner of the hut is from the lads like, it's completely useless to talk to him - in any case, right in the face with a fist. Therefore, earplugs remain
Toffee, druh! .. unfortunately My neighbor is not one of the kruteliks, he is ... a schizophrenic alcoholic in one person. With help, by the way, and at the same time with deafness and insomnia. typesetter, right? The TV screams around the clock so that it drowns out the sound of my TV around the clock !!! Earplugs do not save - they are quiet, yes, but the head hurts from the pressure on the ears. Perhaps this is my individual intolerance. May God help you.
And my drunk (neighbor, do not think bad!) Also floods me more or less regularly, you swindlers! That once a year, then once a month. Because of him, I can't make repairs - it's no use, at best, I will only admire the beauty of the renovated walls and ceilings for a few months. And most importantly, there is no salvation from such neighbors! Its help overrides any of my actions. Our state very clearly protects the rights of such "unfortunate" from soulless (like me) neighbors.
rusja
Tan, some drunk relative had to move in there too .. Or cho, changed her mind
irysska
Tanyusha
I bought earplugs of about the same quality from our pharmacy (Mac's) 2 pairs of 40 UAH. - they help me a lot, they don't put pressure on my ears, and sound insulation is really expensive. And for the Chinese - a couple is obtained for 1 UAH. - and reviews about them
rusja
And new buyers of their apartments saved me from the brothel below, literally under me, on the first floor, one opposite the other, there were two apartments - a three-room apartment and a two-bedroom apartment, in one lived a woman with her teenage son, mother and constantly changing dads, and in the second mother with two adult daughters are all alcoholics. In the middle of the night they threw something or each other so that my walls were shaking and all the other delights of their life, I experienced for 10 years or so. Then, thank God, there were people on their killed, but in principle, good apartments, they settled this whole gop-company who where and told that even their life had changed, who died, who got married, and the lady was under me, who son, in general, in some kind of faith left
azaza
Quote: rusja

Tan, some drunk relative had to move in there too .. Or cho, changed her mind
Should, Ol. I'm still waiting. The question is when. She received the right to inherit this apartment, but whether she dares to evict her sick uncle - that is the question. Perhaps it's not even her courage, but his notorious help. In general, I live in the hope that someday this nightmare will end. It seems that at one time I heard them from above, but now again this bastard is making noise
In general, more than once a thought flashed through my mind: maybe this test was sent to me from above? We lived in the same apartment - there was not an old woman above me, but again she was deaf. And I used to turn on the TV at full volume late in the evening - it was she who saved herself from loneliness. They moved here - here is a schizophrenic from above, and again deaf and with insomnia. So I think - maybe in my past life I was a terribly disgusting muck, harassing neighbors with a roar? For that I am suffering now?
azaza
Quote: irysska

Tanyusha
I bought earplugs of about the same quality from our pharmacy (Mac's) 2 pairs of 40 UAH. - they help me a lot, they don't put pressure on my ears, and sound insulation is really expensive. And for the Chinese - a couple is obtained for 1 UAH. - and reviews about them
Ir, I know how many have tried them? Any pressure. I may have the wrong ears
irysska
Quote: azaza

Ir, I know how many have tried them? Any pressure. I may have the wrong ears

I just use these:
Yoghurt maker - selection, reviews, questions about operation (1)
irysska
Girls
My girlfriend already owns a Dex DUM108 yogut maker (like mine). But then she was on fire to buy Vivo Thermomaster. We decided to look for more reviews about her, because I don't really want to throw out 400 UAH. into the wind. And here's what they read:
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"An elastic band from family panties should be included! "

Published on February 25, 2012 - 20:25
review from FallingStar
Advantages: the ability to select the temperature regime, simple and convenient to use, convenient compact form
Disadvantages: the lid does not fit snugly !, does not maintain the set temperature !, does not resume work with a voltage drop
An elastic band from family panties should be included! (see photo)
An elastic band from family panties should be included! (see photo)

The main selection criterion was the ability to adjust the temperature. As far as I understood from what I read about yoghurt makers, this is the first one in which there is such an option (and even against the background of a quite affordable price).
The question is of fundamental importance, since different products / starters require different fermentation temperatures. In general, this yogurt maker is specially designed for VIVO starter cultures, which, of course, does not interfere with using it for others.
I read reviews about other yogurt makers of well-known brands: how they overheat and need to adjust, experiment, then put something under the glasses, then, on the contrary, "insulate" the device, etc., etc.

Therefore, we decided to take a chance and take the Vivo ThermoMaster 201 (take a chance, since at the time of purchase, no reviews were found).

The yogurt maker has three possible fermentation temperatures:
30C, 36C and 42C.

Very easy to use. Detailed instructions "for fools" (in the sense that it is impossible not to understand;)

Volume: 1L (4 glasses of 250ml)

Additional functions:
- clock
- shows the time until the end of the program
- fast introduction of fermentation time
- delayed program start

Convenient shape (I can't imagine where we would have shoved the round Wink bandura).

Of course, the lack of preservation of the program during a voltage drop, as described in the first comment, is a serious drawback (although I do not know if other yogurt makers suffer from it).

Otherwise, the first impressions were very positive.

The cover is loose. However, during the first 2 weeks at the exit, they received a thickened tender bifivit, which was prepared for the baby as the first complementary food. And suddenly he stopped preparing ... This product must be fermented at a temperature of 36C for 6-9 hours. At first, 7 hours was enough.
And once again, after 7 hours, we got all the same liquid milk ... We added another hour ... then another 2 ... and more ... and more ... In the end, we got peroxidized rather from "old age "something ... On the next preparation, the situation repeated itself. Didn't know what to think.
Sinned on milk. Then they decided that the yogurt maker was covered. We were shocked, because 2 weeks had just passed when the goods could be returned / exchanged. And in most cases, service to technology does not benefit the same way as plastic surgery does to a person Wink
The first times everything turned out so wonderful that the relationship "lagging lid - temperature inside the yogurt maker" was blunt and for a long time reached.
In general, we finally measured the temperature. 32C at the bottom. The top glasses were generally cold!
They put on an elastic band and (lo and behold!) - exactly 36C!
I still don’t understand one thing: how the product fermented successfully for the first time when the lid was loose ...

If you do not have such a wonderful elastic band, as in the photo, an elastic band from old Wink family panties is quite suitable
For the manufacturer, I would recommend immediately adding it to the kit in order to forestall the fear and resentment of consumers. And so - they added a paragraph to the instructions, put in a rubber band - and everyone is happy and happy! Laughing out loud

In view of the above, I, nevertheless, am ready to recommend this miracle of Chinese folk art Wink
Happy cooking!
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P.S. Once again, I'm editing the review. ANOTHER PORTION OF TRANSLATED MILK AND SQUARE. BABY LEFT WITHOUT FEEDING AGAIN. RUBBER DOES NOT HELP. PEROXIDIZED BOTTOM AND NON-OXIDIZED TOP. THIS IS SOMETHING (IT DOES NOT TURN TO CALL THE LANGUAGE YOGURT) - MONEY TO THE WIND!
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P.P.S. And my husband went to the service center, which is nothing more than ... a room filled with new devices. At the checkpoint, the old woman half-questioning-half-affirmatively asked: "What, have you come to change again?" (!) And in "ss", without unnecessary questions, without looking at the warranty card, they simply issued a new cripple, which was enough ... for 2 successful preparations. Further - according to the previous scenario. Like this.
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Now the druzhbanikha is puzzled (scratching her turnips) - it seems like this Thermomaster hotzza, but even this review does not inspire. Well, I advise her - if you want a different cooking temperature - buy a thermostat and do not suffer from nonsense, especially since there is Dexik 108. But if there was no yogurt maker, then you could take the risk and buy.
Although I understand that this yogurt maker could have been caught by a person who was simply defective, or the whole batch is like that, but after reading this review (at least 1 review is certainly not enough), I don’t want to take responsibility and advise my friend to buy it. I decided so - let her head think whether she needs it or not.
Mona1
Well, I don’t know, my mom’s 3 months old, while the flight is normal, mmm, the lid does not lag anywhere, everything is fermented with a bang, an excellent yogurt maker, and the review that Irisha found looks very much like a custom-made review from competitors. Frightened, I suppose. I would not trust one review. The Internet is such a thing, if you want, even on the ideal you can find a negative opinion, I can explain everything ...
Pintusha
I have vivo too! I'm happy with her now (y) And at first there was also a problem, a peroxidized bottom, I corrected it on the advice of the members of the forum, put cardboard boxes from corrugated cardboard, and everything is ok.
Lozja
Mona1, a yogurt maker, in which you may still need to put a cardboard box, can hardly be called ideal.
Pintusha
I was surprised when I saw that the problem was really solved at the expense of the cardboard, I really like the yogurt in it how it turns out. Probably problems due to the design of the yogurt maker .. although my family will just get 250 ml jars, although I have already broken one, replaced it with a similar glass. Here I have Arietta, it is also worth it, but there are twice as many problems with it and it overheated and unevenly, I had to buy a thermostat, it does not irregular now, but it still does not heat evenly.
Aygul
More reviews on the Vivo yogurt maker. Real reviews. Our people. On our forum.
Mona1
Quote: Lozja

Mona1, a yogurt maker, in which you may still need to put a cardboard box, can hardly be called ideal.
Well, I didn't say that she was ideal. I said EVEN ON IDEAL. And, I think that not all yogurt makers can become at least approximate in VIVO about the temperature (and in VIVO there are already 3 of them), even if they are covered with cardboard from all sides.

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