Niarma
yes, in the photo there is a Miracle Stove, but maybe the seller just did not understand the difference. Let's hope you get lucky. But in any case, it has 2 heating elements and although the power is adjustable: 400, 600, and 1000 watts, only one surface heats up - the lid (or, if you turn it over, the bottom - it can be turned over, unlike Miracle).
Bridge
🔗
Girls, do you think this is the same? They write that TEN is in the lid. I haven't seen two alive, my Soviet friend had one, in the lid. I want it just for baking.
Albina
Natasha, I have such a hard worker Pekla in it with pleasure. Now I'm playing with a new oven.
Mirabel
Elena, Brilliant! Only this is where to find the duralumin grille
gala10
Quote: Bridge
They write that TEN is in the lid. I haven't seen with two
Natasha, behold with two heating elements. True, non-Soviet.
Svetta
MirabelI think it's not about the duralumin, but about the device of the lattice # 2 itself - contact with the bottom of the Miracle along the edges of the lattice, that is, less contact area and more ventilation.
And I do not think that the grille number 2 is made of duralumin, although ...
Mirabel
svettaIt is quite possible ... I will try to bake according to your method today. The heat is approaching, they are used to homemade bread, and they do not want to turn on the oven at all.
Svetta
Mirabel, bake, do not hesitate, I have already filled my hand, everything turns out clearly!
Mirabel
svetta,
zuma1
Mirabel, I think any lattice will do, just not a solid top (so that it does not take heat)
Mirabel
Elena, Thank you! Let's try.
alfa20
And I just put my Miracle on the grill of the gas stove during baking. If you want a rounder bottom (it's actually not soggy), then I just kindle a weak fire under it for a while.
irman
I never have a white bottom. This morning for breakfast I made pies with cottage cheese from puff pastry, turned one pie, here ...

Electric frying pan
Ligra
irman,

Plain wheat bread on yogurt and hop sourdough, baked for 40 minutes.
Electric frying pan
Sindi
Ligrochka, such a crumb is super! I sit hungry at work, from here I smell bread
dopleta
I, too, always bake the bottom perfectly. Moreover, both on the new and on the very old Miracle.
Ligra
Sindi, thanks, at least you can practically sing. The taste is very different for the better when it is made on hop sourdough.
Sindi
Yes, I remember this taste ... As a child, my grandmother baked bread in the village early in the morning, she never ate anything tastier
Ligra
Mirabel
svetta, Svetochka, thank you tremendous for sharing your baking experience with our favorite. I have baked loaves and buns several times already. Perfectly baked bottom!
and you can ask for a recipe for your beautiful buns, which you treat your neighbors in the country.
Niarma
Olga VB, did you manage to buy "The Miracle"? And now there are used ones on AVITO, but good 🔗 and the second 🔗 - new, but there is a photo "Miracle" from the Internet
kortni
Girls, I read the whole topic yesterday. So I wanted to get hold of the "Miracle" oven again!
Not even a day has passed and now she has already arrived!
There was once, about 30 years ago, but with the move I was lost somewhere.
I have two questions: it is the same size as it was before, who knows / remembers?
It seems to me that the modern one is more compact.
(Maybe just then "the trees were big"?)
And the second question, or rather the answer: many write that the handles are loose and the heating element rattles
(I remember, he thundered then) and was already mentally ready for a "flimsy construction",
but they brought quite a decent thing.
The handles are tightly screwed on, nothing "rattles" in the lid.
And a saucepan, I would not say that it is thin at all.
I have a "Miracle" of the Chelyabinsk plant.
Now I'll see how the trial period goes!
Thank you all for your sincere generosity - thank you for sharing wonderful recipes!
selenа
kortniwhere did you get it?
Ligra
kortni, congratulations on your purchase, when you prepare something, share your impressions.
Mila56
Quote: kortni
The handles are tightly screwed on, nothing "rattles" in the lid.
kortni, Irina, congratulations on a useful purchase! That the handles don't dangle is good. I had a "Miracle" from the 80s and the pens did not dangle at first. and over time ... but did not fall off, you can use it. As for
Quote: kortni
heating element rattles
and it rattles with me. Recently, the spiral burned out again. Once again I fixed it. And I wondered, why do I always turn this cover over when I take it off. After all, it is not necessary and even not necessary to turn the lid, but the heating element (a spiral with insulators inside the lid) will say thanks for this .. After all, ceramic insulators can collapse (they rattle like rattles) during these lid flips (they knock every time on the case cover).
So girls, and especially those whose lid is rattling, do not turn it over.
dopleta
kortni, I have an old one, from the 70s, and a Chelyabinsk one. They are the same in size, except in height, maybe they differ by a centimeter. And the handles on the Chelyabinsk in a heated state bend (((.
kortni
selenа, Nadezhda, here took: 🔗
But the price has surprisingly grown by 100 rubles per night.
Apparently a "new party"!
Ligra, Thank you for your congratulations! I will definitely share my impressions!
Mila56, Lyudmila, and thank you for your congratulations and such detailed practical advice!
My lid does NOT rattle, that's the surprise. The monolith is straight! Perhaps because it's new. In the old one it rattled!
But regarding the flipping of the lid - you gave professional advice! Heat and ceramics become brittle,
it is better to "not injure" once again.
dopleta, Larisa, and I had one in those same years, but this one seemed tiny.
Apparently perception also changes over the years
As for the handles: bend or not, I can't say anything yet. I haven't baked in it yet. But I will definitely unsubscribe!
musyanya
Girls, is there a budget option for an electric frying pan so that nothing is fried and does not stick? Basically, I would like to fry only fish there, all the other kitchen bells and whistles, it seems to me, are in full force. There is no stationary stove, there is only an old dream with snakes, I would not want to get it out of the closet at all.
In general, I liked the wok such as Lyi looked at myself 🔗, but it will not be convenient to fry fish in it, right?
MarinaK
musyanya, Ludmila, I have here so ... We have been using it for six months already, we are happy, I even cooked pasta in it. Mom now asks for a similar one, only with a flatter round bottom, her Soviet contacts began to recede, she really loves to fry everything on her - both fish and potatoes. So Lyudmila, if you are satisfied with the bottom area and coverage, then take
Niarma
Girls who need an electric fry, made in Chernivtsi (like Byak's temper) - catch 🔗 new and for only 1000r, but without a window
mur_myau
Niarma,
It seems that it is the top that heats up, and not the sides, like the model with a window.

Well, how did you figure out the switches of your miracle girl?
Niarma
Elena, I figured out the switches. And in that brazier (previous post) Byaka-temper wrote that the top heats up and she is reactive
mur_myau
Niarma,
In Chernivtsi spirals instead of beads, the design is more reliable. But I’m still for the one with the window.
Niarma
Girls, congratulate me - today I received that very Chernivtsi brazier with a window! Purely by chance I saw it on Avito under the name Miracle Frying Pans, and even for a symbolic price. And a bunch of questions at once:
1 mine has a smaller diameter (34cm) than Natalishka wrote (38cm)
2- the spiral is located in the side of the bottom, and Natalishka wrote that in the side of the top.
3- the legs are screwed through to the bottom, that is, the heads of the screws are inside the pan. Therefore, it is possible to cook in it ONLY in forms! I don't know about her, but Natalishka wrote that she cooks only in uniforms. It seems to me that this is not a variant of Miracle or Miracle, but rather a variant of a round oven. And also - there are several small holes (for steam extraction?) Around the glass.
Ligra
Niarma, Congratulations. I have a usual Miracle, but in the forms it will probably be easier to cook - it will be clean inside.
Niarma
Yes, I think that's a plus. It would be nice Natalishka came here, told about her
Creamy
Niarma, show off your stove, educate the people - post photos of your beauty in all kinds. How interesting!
Natalishka
Niarma, Congratulations. Yes, I kind of told everything: girl_pardon: Read in this thread on 50 pages. there is a photo of a window with holes.
And here readhttps://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=404973.800pages 41 and 45
Electric frying pan
The ten itself is located in the middle, where the convex border is.
Niarma
Natalia, yes, the holes are like mine. and ten in the convex border of the lower part. Are the legs also screwed through to the bottom? Well, then definitely this model. And then I was misled by different diameters, for some reason I realized that your 38cm. Tell me, what did you try to cook in it? Which is better - baked goods or meat dishes?
Natalishka
Niarma, I only do baked goods.
Niarma
Natalya, do you make baked goods in "native" forms? Doesn't stick? They tried to bake bread in it, is there enough height?
Natalishka
Niarma, I bake bread in h. stove. And here there are mainly yeast pastries: buns, fenders, pies and also shortbreads, juicy, cheesecakes. Height allows up to 14cm. My pastries were the highest 12cm. I did not bake biscuits. And at the expense of, does not stick, well, it's like in the oven, when I grease, and when it does baking paper or a Teflon mat. In general, you have to watch yourself. Bottom and top browns evenly equally.
Niarma
Natalishka, thanks! But, as far as I understand, is it baked longer (5-10 minutes?) Than in Miracle? You also have Prumel - and which one do you like better?
Natalishka
Niarma, I like everything and I would not part with any one. In a prumel, it bakes faster, but the diameter is smaller, the height is good 12cm.) In a brazier, I like the size and capacity more and the height is even more 14cm., But it takes 10-15 minutes longer to bake. Everyone bakes evenly from all sides. In general, if you need a little something, then in Prumel, and if more and a little higher, then a brazier. In time in Prumel and in the Chelyabinsk Miracle it is baked the same way. Only sturdier aluminum, higher.
metel_007
The girls found a Miracle, likeNatalishka, ask for 700 UAH + shipping. Something the toad is suffocating, all in thought. You will either persuade me or dissuade me, otherwise, as if there is no great need, but I want
zoyaaa
Olga, yesterday at olx in the section I saw other kitchen appliances for 300.00, I never made friends with mine, it bakes for a very long time, I cover the window with foil on top when baking, although the rolls turn out very well in it, maybe I got such a copy.
Byaka zakalyaka
metel_007, do not rush through the ads, there are a lot of offers for 200-300 UAH.
700 in my opinion is sooooo expensive, given the fact that many sell new devices that still remember the Soviet regime
metel_007
Quote: Byaka zakalyaka
do not rush to view ads
Yes, girls, I will. Thanks for the advice
mur_myau
Quote: metel_007
700 UAH +
How much is 700 hryvnia in rubles or dollars? For the sake of interest, how much did they break.
And so from the great Hochikhochi I want one like Natalishka's. At the dacha, then! To the load for the prumel and the princess.
metel_007
Quote: mur_myau
How much is 700 hryvnia in rubles or dollars
About $ 30

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