Mar_k
Quote: Ninelle

Marina, and in Moulinex you can fall asleep everything in the evening, and in the morning you took out some bread?

You can, but I have never baked. There was no need!
Ninelle
Mar_k, you're lucky, and I leave the house at 8.30, at 18.20 at home, and there is a lot of business ... So I want one more assistant.
Ninelle
sazalexter, Bork somehow does not impress me ... I had an iron from this company, and not for 500 rubles, but almost five (they bought it 5 years ago), after a while it dripped with rusty water, which they didn’t do, was carried back to store, the manager calmly changed to another, with the words "and Bjork, it dripped with rust, right? Well, choose any other." .... I certainly understand that the principle of operation is different, but the company is one.
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Ninelle
sazalexter, and you are a real technical Guru! But tell me please, CP not produced in China live in our time ?!
svetlanna
Ninelle, don't run for a long time, jump.
We came to the store, sent the sellers home, at what glance they lingered, my heart skipped a beat "I want", my hand stretched out - that is yours.
Ninelle
svetlanna, Here at my Shtebu missed, the current is not in the store, but here, on the forum, in the store they are not.
sazalexter
NinelleAll HP that is on the market are made in China even by Zojirushi, it's just that China is different, there is a branded one produced at the factories of developers (Panasonic, Zojirushi), and there are ODMs assembled under contracts https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=26545.0
svetlanna
Order. And you will be the best assistant.
Ninelle
It is clear, that is, there is Chinese-China, and there is a brand-controlled one, it is just that there are purely Korean KuKu cartoons or Panasonic's meat grinders are purely Japanese, Bosch dishwashers and washing machines are naturally nonmetrical.
Ninelle
Quote: svetlanna
Order. And you will be the best assistant.
I have time until the 20th
Mar_k
Quote: Ninelle

Mar_k, you're lucky, and I leave the house at 8.30, at 18.20 at home, and there is a lot of business ... So I want one more assistant.
I always put it on at night, just as I prescribe I'm going to pull it out! , so as not to damp, but by the morning it has cooled down!
sazalexter
Ninelle, There are factories that are built in a single copy and only on the territory of, for example, China or Japan. There are precedents when a large Japanese firm (Seiko-Epson-Orient), having built an assembly factory in China, closes it, completely transferring production back to Japan.
Ninelle
Marina, while I buy, I will become a specialist in HP, with consultants like you and sazalexter
Does anyone have a Stadler Form by chance? I read it, it seems beautifully written, outwardly cool ..
Mar_k
Quote: Ninelle


Does anyone have a Stadler Form by chance? I read it, it seems beautifully written, outwardly cool ..

Aha, looks like a printer-scanner !!!
Ninelle
Me or Panas in size. I'll put it on the windowsill, Moulinex, it's also possible, or this one, against the wall, in the company of Shtebik.
sazalexter
Ninelle, Strange company on the official website not a word about HP and multicooker 🔗 full in Russian 🔗
Forum discussion https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=179321.0
Ninelle
sazalexter, thanks, already reading, there is a problem with the bucket jumping out. Eliminated. They seem to promise that the company is Swiss, but I bought a Swedish meat grinder and a juicer ..
lisa567
Asazalexter, Can you tell me about such a Bomann CB 593 bread machine

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sazalexter
lisa567So what to say about her ... the usual HP, there are many https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=26545.0
lisa567
As I understand it, it's better not to get involved ?!
sazalexter
lisa567It depends on what priority when choosing HP, for many the price is a decisive moment.
lisa567
The price is of course important, but I would like some more reliability and good work. I understand that for 2000 thousand there is little reliability, but all the same, among everything, you can find decent copies. We have it alone in the store for a very long time at a price of 1560 rubles. and discounted due to instructions (at least that's what the seller said). Next time I'll look at it inside and feel it. But I am already more inclined to scarlet, although it is almost 1000 more expensive, but somehow there is more trust.

And I will add these similar models to the catalog.
Ninelle
Please tell me, does the REDMOND RBM-M1900 bread maker say anything to anyone?
Ninelle
Dear bakers, ayy! Can you advise me! And in any bread maker you can bake Borodinsky, rye, wholemeal bread, or only those with such programs?
sazalexter
Ninelle, On the floor, manual mode in any.
Ninelle
sazalexter, oh, and this is you ... but tell me please about the LG bread makers, current if possible without links, I already went there and read, and in a language accessible to a blonde ...
Ninelle
Oh, and more about yeast, I've read that they are of some two types ... which ones should I buy so I can start baking right away ?!
Mar_k
Ninelle, In my baking on the main program, wheat rye, where per kg of bread weight up to 200-250 grams of rye flour! Baking! Pekla Borodinsky, but they did not show much love for him! But now I do not experiment, I prefer a mixture of different flours: premium, rye and whole grain! For example, the main one for my family is 300 w / s, 200 whole grain, 180 rye and 500 ml of water! The bread is very decent! I bake it without any additional intervention - set it on, the bun was made and left!

Yeast bought Saft the moment red, and now sometimes I indulge in pressed ones! I started the leaven, but until I was ripe for it, it's troublesome for me! I also bake on an old dough - Read and see the Admin topic!

Something like that!

Mar_k
Ninelle, And my mother LG has been baking for five years with faith and truth! She likes it, but she has a maximum mass of 750!
Ninelle
Marina, Thank you! It is a pity that you have no dispenser, otherwise I read in the Panas topic that the dispenser does not close automatically there, now I am slipping, yesterday they convinced me to Panas, but it was not available in my favorite store. Can this be a sign of fate and buy Moulinex? ..... I wonder how it is with the dispenser ..
Ninelle
Quote: Mar_k
Ninelle, Even at LG's mother - she has been baking for five years with faith and truth! She likes it, but she has a maximum mass of 750!
Marin ... so I just stayed a little with Lyzhik ... and you again
Mar_k
Ninelle, No, well, my model's moulinex are now on sale with the dispensary! Well, if the meaning of how he is in action, you need to ask the girls in the topic about Mulinex what they will say, since they already have such HP there! But the absence of a despenser does not bother me!
Maybe fate, of course! It happens the same way, when I start digging, replaying, then in the end there is no that, then there is no third, and I buy what I chose at the beginning !!!! But this HP immediately sunk into my soul, I bought it, I didn’t look at anything else - while it pleases me! And Profikuk chose, first him, and then from Dobrynya to Zuber, just a little on Orson-KM not the temptation of fins, but in the end Proficuk stands and pleases!

And I can't say anything about skiing, I used to want to, when my mother bought it, yes, I chose a model with yogurt and butter whipping, but Moulinex won!

Ninelle, I'm not trying to persuade in any case, I just share my opinion !!!
sazalexter
Ninelle, The dispenser does not close automatically in any HP! There are models without it Panasonic 2500 for example. On "skis" I will not say anything ... who "goes" who does not, how lucky Moulinex never got rid of childhood diseases associated with a bucket and weak oil seals.
Ninelle
sazalexter, in my opinion, all equipment is a lottery, especially the one that is assembled in China.
Quote: sazalexter
The dispenser does not close automatically in any HP!
Doesn't it interfere with raising and baking dough? Forgive me for amateurish questions, I just don't know what it is, but I can't go to see it yet - I'm sick.
Mar_k
I can't say anything bad about the bucket! No damage, but so far we have only a year of active exploitation (plowing for 5 family members). And the oil seals are what's in the buckets? If yes, then my husband smeared it with silicone grease and after baking not mine, but I do it just before baking! That is, I will rinse and that's it, without fanaticism! Works like a sweetheart and nothing sticks or leaks! Yes, I did jam, but the field was smeared again - it pleases and does not create problems!
Ninelle
Quote: Mar_k
Ninelle, I do not try to persuade in case, I just share my opinion !!!
So there is a thirst, and there is no one to persuade, yesterday Vasily (the manager in the store) convinced Panas, but they were not there ... I like Mulya with gadgets ... and outwardly, Panas 2502 looks like it and now convince ... At least take two. .. Now the question is ... WHAT IS THE FIRST ?!
Ninelle
Marina, if there are no Panas again, then I'll take Mula ... exactly! And if Panas is, then as a second!
sazalexter
Ninelle, Panasonic does not interfere, and it is rarely used as a rule. HP are all going to China.What is there to watch one call and she is already at home 🔗 and it is more useful for health
Ninelle
But not all! Skiing in Korea Oh, I have become such a constant, but in my favorite store they were not available yesterday ..
sazalexter
Ninelle, The baguette holder in the mulinex has one name, that for a baguette the size of a pie, and the HP does not make them on the machine, you still have to form a dispenser for raisins and nuts, good for Easter. A yeast dispenser is not needed at all.
Ninelle
sazalexter, so I'll go now to choose again .... Well, anyway, Panasik 2502 and Mulya 613 are more suitable in design, white does not channel, everything is black and steel, but I will not hide it.
Why is yeast not needed? And if you put bread on the night?
sazalexter
Ninelle, Yeast to the bottom of the HP, flour on top, then water, nothing will happen to them. I've been baking at night for 5 years already, probably without any problems. If live yeast is simply crumbled into the water from above.
Ninelle
that's all ... after dinner I call the store, if not, then tomorrow we can live and go to MVideo and feel both with my hands.
Ninelle
Quote: sazalexter
Yeast to the bottom of the HP, flour on top, then water, nothing will happen to them.
And what about the phrase "do not mix salt with yeast" ... here I bake bread with my hands, I generally, if the yeast is dry - mix it with flour, then everything else, I bake bread and buns and kuliabaks and cakes like that!
sazalexter
Ninelle, Salt, sugar on top of flour, water on top and go. I have not taken anything in stores for a long time, especially from your beloved one only via the Internet
Ninelle
And I'm in my favorite online store and take it, MVideo is like a showroom for me. went, looked, felt and ordered from Vasily! In general, I make 90% of purchases only through the Internet, and for a child - from strollers to overalls! Because as soon as we saved 16 on the wheelchair! thousand (you can buy a stroller for such a difference). There are about 10 thousand on the refrigerator ... and so on. And I have not even seen many products in retail.
sazalexter
NinelleHappy shopping
Ninelle
Thank you! I'm calling, it seems like it is ...
Mar_k
I'll tell you about the baguettes, even if they are small, but convenient for children! I cut them one, the rest do not touch! Yes, sometimes I will do it with cheese, so one time they take and well-fed, no need to break it with a lot, cut it! I bake on the road (we drive a car far away in summer), it's very convenient - it turns out in portions!

In Moulinex, the load of products is the other way around - water first ..... And yeast is the latest! Although I now bring to the wash, that it is absolutely not important !!!

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