Help with choosing a bread maker

[Maxim Maximovich]

Maxim Maximovich, The quality will be like everything from the whites, China, for the rye a shoulder blade will go for wheat

well, I don’t have everything from vitek, but from china it’s probably full XD
there are simply products that are a little more thoughtful, and sometimes they are completely garbage.
and what about the programmable mode, is it good for rye? and amaranth on the wheat program to cook, right?

[Maxim Maksimovich]

Maxim Maksimovich, ask about Vitka at Cure, on the previous page. He's a user.

about the programmable mode

It is also good if there is, but in principle it is not needed. Pure rye without the addition of wheat, heavy bread, rarely anyone can eat it for a long time, mostly rye-wheat is baked, and it goes well with any CP in the main mode. https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=262.0

I want to buy a kneader. Please advise which one is better.

[mora]

mora, Select kneaders here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=8100.0

Hello everyone. help with the choice of HP please.
mainly used for kneading pizza dough. dumplings, dumplings, pies
secondary for bread))
wanted a more budget-friendly, chose Maxwell MW-3751 but the reviews about the dough are so hot (

[Bereginya]

Bereginya, maybe you just look for a dough mixer if you are not going to bake bread.

[Albina]

Albina, I still want bread too)

I apologize if it was already discussed, but after looking through the last 5 pages I could not find the answer to my question. we choose HP there is a question about baking bread without yeast, only with sourdough, preferably 100% rye bread. From what manufacturers offer, you can choose more or less decent.

[vjymrf]

vjymrf, Topic of discussion https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=348427.0

[sazalexter]

sazalexter, Thank you!

Good day!! Help determine the choice of a bread machine. Polaris PBM 1501D, Brand 3801, Redmond RBM-M1907 or 1906.
Only Redmond can "touch it with your hands", the rest, if you order, only through the Internet.
I'm new to baking, but since the family eats a lot of bread, the oven will work often. I will hope for an answer. Thank you

[i.r.a]

i.r.aIt is better to immediately Panasonic, if money is difficult, Brand 3801 they even have a service, buy a bucket or a lost shovel.

Thank you! Yes, of course Panasonic is better, but ... So Brand will order.

Baker girls! I’m to you for help, this is my situation, at work everyone knows that I’m obsessed with kitchen appliances, they think that I’m not particularly normal for this reason, and now one lady wanted to buy a bread maker, she wants to wake up from the smell of freshly baked bread (not special lover of the kitchen). So, of course, she turned to me, you’re all here, they say you understand this! Choose a model for her, I can't screw up in front of the women's team (you understand!), I myself have Oursson BM1000, I'm very happy, although I never baked bread before, everything works out great, but I know they praise better than Panasonic, I didn't look at them when choosing, I'm limited in means was, the lady can afford any. It's just that I don't understand Panasonic models at all, or maybe not Panasonic, which models are in priority now, a couple of things to offer her, the main thing is that with a delayed start (although I think this is in the majority). Again, the budget is unlimited (within reasonable limits). I really look forward to your advice, otherwise you need to give her an answer, but I am silent ...

I apologize if it was already discussed, but after looking through the last 5 pages I could not find the answer to my question. we choose HP there is a question about baking bread without yeast, only with sourdough, preferably 100% rye bread. From what manufacturers offer, you can choose more or less decent.

I have an old Panasonic 253. I bake bread with sourdough and dough on it. Long enough. In principle, you can bake on any bread maker, but not in automatic mode due to the fact that the rise of the dough occurs each time at a different time. From 3 to 9-10 hours.
Everything is determined by the temperature and "the mood of the wild yeast."At first I use only the dough mode, then I wait for it to rise periodically checking and then only the baking mode. And I always get a stable result. Rye bread is different. We have to help the machine with "hands" when kneading.

[ksyusha1997]

ksyusha1997, Oksana, it is very difficult to advise anyone. Because if I can be satisfied with everything in things, and someone having tried even once, immediately groan. Therefore, it all depends on how the person himself is configured. For example, we like to use cartoons. And when you tell a person, he kind of lights up. But having bought and tried to do one thing, he immediately says that he wasted money in vain. I have had such cases. And in this case, you look like a "knocker" for an extra waste of money. And only not many adequately appreciate what is proposed. Therefore, one must be prepared for a turn of events in this way.
I have the first and third (now used by me) Hitachi, the second was LG, which I did not like. But I used it until the oil seal flew. And the oil seal was more difficult to buy. You could only buy a bucket at a cost of 1/2 HP
From the topic everyone praises Panasonic. And the choice is still made by the person who buys.

Please help me with choosing the best bread maker! Ease of use, convenience and deliciousness of bread are important :-) I want to take Kenwood BM450, I also liked Gorenje BM1400E and bork, but too expensive, especially with a growing rate ... I don’t know what I’ll bake yet, but I’m definitely planning whole grain bread and muffins, and I will not cook jam there, if it is important. There are a lot of reviews about Kenwood, both good and bad, that's why I doubted, or maybe something better has already appeared?

I would like to buy another bucket over time, and I want the container to be with a ceramic coating (like in a multi-war cuckoo), do they even exist?

I want the container to be with a ceramic coating

I have not even heard that there are bread makers with such a coating of a bucket. And you do not need it, the usual non-stick is safer.

and maybe something better has already appeared?

Any HP will bake you bread, but many on our forum consider HP Panasonic to be the best brand. So do not worry and buy what you can afford for the money - Panasonic has several options, anyone will bake high-quality bread, the difference is in minor "mulks".

Thank you, Panasonic, unfortunately, does not fit into the kitchen at all in design, I would take it, I like them in terms of functions.
Now I settled on Kenwood BM450 and Gorenje BM1400E, the price difference is almost 2 times, does it make sense to overpay?

do not fit into the kitchen design at all

As I’m not familiar with this, take what fits into the design of course, Kenwood BM450 and Gorenje BM1400E are the same thing, from the same factory

Thank you, the price now for Panasonic and Kenwood is almost the same, but I read not good reviews about burning here ... so I'll take Kenwood all the same.

[olinali]

olinali, About Kenwood https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=1169.100

And which is better from Panasonic? Is the Panasonic SD-ZB2512KTS bread maker a good option?

[olinali]

olinali, Beautiful. No less good than 2511. It differs only in the color of the case (11 is just white plastic, 12 is "stainless steel") and the presence of a second dispenser for yeast (IMHO, an interesting thing, but not particularly necessary) ...

Well, that's it, I gave up Kenwood and bought a Panasonic SD-ZB2512KTS, ​​now don't write anything bad about him, I will try to bake bread
Thank you very much for your advice

[olinali]

olinali.Good choice move on to topic https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=130117.0 and here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=197192.3980

Good day. Please help with the choice of a bread machine. Some experience already exists:
- 2 years ago, my mother was presented with a Panasonic 2501, and she always made bread with "Hurray".
- then when my husband and I began to live together, we bought Moulinex ow 1101 for a stock. What can I say - completely different bread. The crumb structure is always dense, the crust is fried, and the taste is different. As a result, she was placed in other hands.
Now I am again on fire with the idea of ​​a bread maker. I am looking for a h-ku that is close to Panasonic in terms of baking quality, but at a lower price. I am considering options up to 4 tons.
What can you advise? Redmond, Oursson, LG or something else?
There is also a desire to knead in a bread maker, and bake in a multicooker, since my model copes with this with a bang.

There is also a desire to knead in a bread maker, and bake in a multicooker

Then what's the difference what x / n to buy? Any mixes.

There is a desire, this does not mean that I plan to constantly bake in a multicooker. So, sometimes indulge
I believe that each device should do its own thing - a bread maker to bake bread, a slow cooker to cook.

[gabiana]

gabiana, many praise Rolsen 1160, read about it, there is also a photo of loaves.
And I had an LG, it turns out very good bread in quality (probably, like in Panasonic), but I did not like the fact that there was never a crisp in the lie, it was soft all the time, although it got out immediately after baking.
And also x / misty 1202 stove, it is also not expensive.

There is also a desire to knead in a bread maker, and bake in a slow cooker, since my model copes with this with a bang

I see no reason to buy a bread maker for these purposes. Buy a planetary harvester, it kneads the dough with a hook, and there are a lot of additional functions.

[programmable]

Hello dear bakers! I congratulate everyone on the New Year 2015, health, happiness, creative success and all the brightest and kindest in the coming year!
I ask for advice: Thanks to the forum, I am the 3rd year happy owner of Panasonic 2501, I am very pleased with my assistant, but I want to give it to my mother (61 years old, lives alone in the village, when we rarely go, there is stress with bread), because the stove is run-in and time-tested. I want to take in return programmable, the requirements are as follows: steep dough (dumplings, egg noodles), it is desirable to set not only the time of the stages, but also the temperature (I would like rye and sourdough, and also make yogurt in it, since there is a lot of fuss with a multicooker), even if would squeak softly, it would be great in general. Sometimes I bake with raisins, candied fruits (to the question of the need for a dispenser). Budget - up to 8 thousand
After reading the forum, I realized that Brand 3801 (there is a smokehouse of this company) and Polaris PBM 1501D (there is an iron) fit into the budget.
Polaris pluses: the presence of a dispenser (but not critical), a large loaf and 2 small ones; cons - 2 mixers (I doubt the reliability of mixing) and a viewing window.
In Brand, the lack of a dispenser and some other hitch is confusing, I don't remember ... Instructions and correspondence. I read the branches, but I still can't decide ...
A question for connoisseurs: a delayed start can be set on manual programs too, right? Which one will be quieter, I wonder ...
Maybe there are some other options? I would be very grateful for your help!

[you can bake on any bread maker, but not in automatic mode]

I have an old Panasonic 253. I use it to bake sourdough and dough bread. Long enough. Basically you can bake on any bread maker, but not in automatic modedue to the fact that the rise of the dough occurs each time at a different time. From 3 to 9-10 hours.
Everything is determined by the temperature and "the mood of the wild yeast." At first I use only the dough mode, then I wait for it to rise periodically checking and then only the baking mode. And I always get a stable result. Rye bread is different. We have to help the machine with "hands" when kneading.

Dear bakers!
And please tell me which Panasonic models are baked in "non-automatic" mode?

And please tell me which Panasonic models are baked in "non-automatic" mode?

any stoves can bake in a non-automatic mode - turn it on, turn it off, watch it, turn it on, turn it off, switch it on, too.

Which Panasonic models are baked in "non-automatic" mode?

Programmable Panasonic has not yet been invented, and in "manual" mode any Panasonic can bake.

Thank you!

All stoves are the same, only the name is different. And do not fill your head with different names and programs. The baking time is the same for everyone. Only the price is different. This is my personal opinion.

Everyone has the same baking time

your untruth. There are bread makers with two wrinkles and they have a longer baking time than bread makers with one wrinkle.

All stoves are the same, only the name is different. And do not fill your head with different names and programs. The baking time is the same for everyone. Only the price is different

I did not think that there are still such delusions.

I did not think that there are still such delusions

so why the delusion then? Take a dozen instructions with tables of modes - everything is like a blueprint.

[Newbie]

Newbie, well, they made fun

Olga Sanna, the harvester will never replace HP. Only she will be able to create the necessary temperature and conditions for proving the dough and, which is important for me personally, will not force me to constantly wash my hands of it.

Newbie, well, they made fun

laughter for no reason, as they say ...

laugh for no reason

Did I miss something? On our forum, such communication has become the norm ?!

Did I miss something? On our forum, such communication has become the norm ?!

Well, if you consider it the norm not to argue your answer, then yes - communication in the style of the bazaar.

[LiudmiLka]

LiudmiLka, maybe this is so, but in my HP the bread did not always rise well (I have a supra, the model is in "my technique"), but the dough mixed in the combine was perfectly baked in a multicooker.

[Newbie]

NewbieThe inventor of the automatic home bakery and the main holder of patents, Panasonic, does not sell production licenses, so the rest of the manufacturers get out of the situation as best they can. There are CPs made under two or three ODM agreements on Chinese developments, but they are similar and this has already been discussed. https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=26545.0

Olga Sanna, this is what confirms the fact that the bread makers are all different and the final product will also be different. And I can say for sure that very cheap models lose in this regard (first of all, from my own experience, and also after talking with an old good repairman).
My harvester smartly kneads any dough, but even for pasta I prefer HP, because washing the parts of the harvester from the dough is still a pleasure.
And the quality of the dough (I'm not even talking about yeast dough - only HP) in the bread maker is better, although longer, but if you add time for washing here, then everything becomes equal.

Novichok_ya, Inventor and the main holder of patents, Panasonic firm, does not sell production licenses, respectively, other manufacturers get out of the situation as best they can.

You will forgive me, but what is so unique about the Panasonic, except for the equalization of temperature (and for some it is like a lump in the throat).

so unique for a panasonic woman

The shape of the blade, the shape of the drive shaft, the gland and its installation method, the dough kneading algorithm, the engine, the drive design, the design of the bread machine ... etc.