sazalexter
patrold the error came out! 3h30min 🔗
patrold
sazalexter

If we use the French mode (6 hours) for baking rye bread, we achieve a significant increase in the rise time. In addition, the kneading time and the holding time (temperature equalization) will increase. The truth is, I don’t like to cook bread for so long.
Lady
Hello everyone.
Respected patrold Where did you see French bread in the K450 for 6 hours?
patrold
Lady

Carried away, moved away from the topic. We started with desire mr.Flasher have a real rye that needs 1 long rise, and then with sazalexter switched to Panas-255 with its modes.
Vadim 76
Is there somewhere a description of the BM 450 temperature modes? Who knows?
Vanya28
Quote: May @

Please tell me what programs does this bread machine have? ...
If you are looking at this stove and you like it, take it.
Everything she listed she does.
And including rye, it is very easy, both with yeast and sourdough. You can look at my topic - Rye custard bread.
I will not list the programs, you can download the instructions, there are 14 of them, more than enough for ordinary life. Plus 5 additional programs that you can record yourself from any recipe you like.
Egecihora
Quote: Mr. Flasher


I will not say anything about the dough for dumplings. Have not tried. This is not stated by the manufacturer!

I made dough on dumplings and dumplings in the "Dough" mode.
Even steep dumplings dough knead perfectly,
then for about 20 minutes I let him lie down, turn off the stove and roll it out.
In order to save money, the el-va can be turned off immediately after mixing
Myshanya
My stove does not tremble and the table does not shake (stands on the desktop). I am no longer afraid of the dispenser, but my girlfriend, who has Panasonic, was scared in earnest when my dispenser worked. But, as for me, the stove is not working loudly, it beeps quietly. For example, when I'm in the living room, I don't hear her squeak that bread is ready. I am very pleased with the stove so far, but I have been using it recently, so we will look at the Metal case. Plastic stoves very much reminded me of my children's pot
In almost a week, the marks on the plastic measuring spoon were erased - but I already remembered where that was. It is also better not to measure the vegetable oil with this spoon, since it is inconvenient to wash it later under the part that drives. It was also annoying that the set included three books with recipes (in French, Italian and Greek). If only they gave it in English !!! Thanks to my husband - I downloaded it in Ukrainian !!! In general, you can find fault with trifles, but in general, I'm very happy !!!
Crystal
Hurrah! I bought it. I am looking forward to my first bread, and I am very excited. I hope everything goes well. There is one question, not even from me, but from my daughter - where to glue the stickers supplied from the manufacturer? On the body or cover? And here's another question about a light bulb, the backlight of the camera lights up like that once, and the display always lights up ... Is this a marriage? Or can I just tighten a screw somewhere?
mr.Flasher
Do not glue on the lid! She heats up. (In the best case, you will not peel the glue from it later when the sticker is old. In the worst case, it can cause a fire.)
You are not the first person on the forum to say that the backlight does not always turn on. For me, it always turns on, at absolutely any moment. Hence it is marriage. ... Well, or in my HP marriage.
Crystal
I want to thank all the bakers, whom I tormented with questions when choosing my oven! Thank you so much for your responsiveness, patience and helpful advice! : flowers: I also want to express my deep gratitude to the FORUM! If it weren't for all of you, I probably wouldn't have bought a bread maker. Thoughts about buying wandered from time to time in my head, but disappeared.And when I got here, everything was decided by itself and I had no choice left, now I am a baker! : DAlthough it is not yet known which one. But I am sure that I will always find support and understanding here! Thank you very much!
Crystal
Quote: Mr. Flasher

Do not glue on the lid! It heats up. (In the best case, you will not peel the glue from it later when the sticker is old. In the worst case, it can cause a fire.)
You are not the first person on the forum to say that the backlight does not always turn on. For me, it always turns on, at absolutely any moment. Hence it is marriage. ... Well, or in my HP marriage.
So I understood that too, but the thought that I can give MY SUFFERED BABY to the service just freezes me. Maybe the contact is just poorly fixed, maybe you can twist it yourself? If anyone has tried, please respond!
Crystal
How long will it take to bake the next bread? I did not find anything about this in the instructions, and the pens are itching
mr.Flasher
Crystal, contact is possible, but it is very difficult to correct it yourself. The light bulb, as far as I know, is pulled out from the inside. You will have to disassemble all HP.
You can bake the next bread "as soon as possible". HP will allow you to bake the next bread when it cools down.
Elly
Quote: Crystal

How long will it take to bake the next bread? I did not find anything about this in the instructions, and the pens are itching

You need to wait for the bread maker to cool down. To speed up the process, you can leave the lid open.
Vadim 76
How do you get baked goods in accelerated mode (58 min) and mode 6?
I did not bake brioche in mode 6 (I made it according to the recipe from the instructions, only added the only raisins).
Then he baked bread in accelerated mode + in addition in baking mode for 10 minutes, as a result, the bread inside was not baked. (410 ml of water, 690 g of flour, milk powder 1 tbsp. L., Salt 1 tsp., Sugar 4 tsp. And 3 tsp. SAF yeast moment) The bread seems to have risen, but it is damp inside
Arkaim
Finally, I got a handsome man, although in the photo it is a little darker.
Made according to the Fugaski recipe - Milk with sesame seeds.
milk 310 ml (instead of milk I took Yagotynskiy Sourdough)
sugar 2.5 tbsp. l. (dimensional)
salt 1.5 tsp (dimensional)
butter 60 gr
wheat flour 500 gr (Wheat took coarse grinding / whole grain /)
yeast 2 tsp (dimensional)
sesame seeds 40 gr
Perhaps the taste did not suffer from my small changes, but even won, the family ate quickly ...
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Mellusina
Quote: Aiast

Well, here's the first call to the service. ......... In order not to walk twice, we immediately ordered a round bucket (thanks, members of the forum!). Total! Replaced the bucket with a new one! Replaced the blade with a new one. We gave away an old bucket and a shovel. In the bought round bucket, they found another new shovel. Now we have three of them! And three buckets! Upon arrival home, in a new bucket, a cupcake was instantly made according to a proven recipe. The cupcake was a third higher than usual. And the round cupcake somehow looks neater in shape. And the prepared muffin tasted better!
I have a question about a round bucket: how is it attached? on the bottom there are no fasteners. I was given it as a gift, I can't install it
Mellusina
Hello everyone and thank you very much for the advice. I am joining the ranks of the happy owners of Kenwood 450. So far I am mastering, everything is working out fine. except for the round bucket, I asked the question above.
there is an instruction in Russian, maybe someone will come in handy 🔗
emax
Hello everyone! yesterday at about 10 pm they brought me a 450th. The touch panel is something There is no limit to joy.
emax
Quote: Mellusina

I have a question about a round bucket: how is it attached? on the bottom there are no fasteners. I was given it as a gift, I can't install it
for 450 there is a form KENWOOD AW 51002, maybe by mistake they gave 51000 or 51001 (models 256 and 350)
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Bosco
Hello, here we are the owners of this Kenwood model.
I asked if an incident happened today, during the regulation of the kolobok I accidentally pressed the cancel button - stop. I turned it on immediately, BUT the whole process started from the very beginning! Doesn't this model save the program and continue from the moment where it left off? Is it only the program that is saved? but starts all over again ?!
First, I poured everything according to the recipe in the booklet and did not touch anything else. then I found out about the kolobok, and now I regulate it, so the roof stopped falling through. But even with the roof down, the bread was always delicious.
From the book we have tried only egg, with seeds and rural. I liked everything very much.
an_domini
Bosco, the program is saved when the power is turned off in the network for some time (see instructions). And your "incident" is really incorrigible, also came across several times, touch buttons often work from accidental touch, then you can combine from different programs to restore the process.
Elly
Bosco, at the beginning of my baking business, I had the same thing. I touched the buttons and the time went astray. I had to, if the time passed a little, start again, or if a lot - to program another program for the remaining process. I can only advise you to be careful not to accidentally touch anything.
Crystal
What is the difference between 10 and 13 programs? Are they the same, or is there a nuance? I want to knead the dough for a curl and just don't know what to choose?
mr.Flasher
Dear an_domini and Elly, please explain how, by touching the buttons on the BM450 Kenwood, you can bring down the running program? In this oven, there is only one way to bring down a running program - by holding down the stop button for a long time. That is, the program can only be knocked down on purpose!
Do not level all HP under one.
mr.Flasher
Crystal, yes, really not clear Identical. There may be a difference in temperature. If so, it is better to use you 10 program.
Crystal
I'll try at 10
mr.Flasher
Crystal, I make a curl from brioche) I just stop the HP with the power button after "Kneading 4". I quickly make the necessary manipulations with the dough. I take out the scapula. I put back the dough and turn on the power.

Good luck!
Crystal
Mr. Flasher, thanks for the tip. The power button is the one on the case? Everything needs to be done in 10 minutes, so that the settings do not fall off? Yesterday I baked for Brioche, everyone liked it, I had to repeat it separately for my mother, took it to my place. ... I'll try tomorrow according to your version.
Mellusina
Quote: emax

for 450 there is a form KENWOOD AW 51002, maybe by mistake they gave 51000 or 51001 (models 256 and 350)
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yeah, it is. just not by mistake. all models are given 51,000 as a gift. manufacturer's share. Well, thank you! apparently they have this shoe polish!

I wonder why there are restrictions for "thank"? I would like many - but I cannot. ALL THANKS in an accessible way!
mr.Flasher
Crystal, yes, that's right, there is a switch on the case. And you need to be in time for 8 minutes.
emax
Quote: Mr. Flasher

Dear an_domini and Elly, please explain how, by touching the buttons on the BM450 Kenwood, you can bring down the running program? In this oven, there is only one way to bring down a running program - by holding down the stop button for a long time. That is, the program can only be knocked down on purpose!
Do not level all HP under one.
I agree! Without reading the instructions, I turned on the batch and for a long time could not understand why the stop button did not work. You need to hold it for a long time to stop. So the protection against the "fool" is reliable.
roman4all
Quote: Vadim 76

How do you get baked goods in accelerated mode (58 min) and mode 6?
...

I was not immediately lucky with the accelerated mode. The same story, not baked. Although everything was according to the recipe. Now I bake, not in a hurry, on regular and own programs. Almost no punctures! I don’t even think about 58 minutes.
Vadim 76
That I also thought about it. Well her this speed
Elly
Quote: Mr. Flasher

Dear an_domini and Elly, please explain how, by touching the buttons on the BM450 Kenwood, you can bring down the running program? In this oven, there is only one way to bring down a running program - by holding down the stop button for a long time. That is, the program can only be knocked down on purpose!
Do not level all HP under one.
I in no way equate all HP under one. But I had the same situation as an_domini, Exactly hurt the start button without pressing it. And neither did she hold back. The program itself remained the same, but the time was reset, that is, the program started working again. By the way, when it happened I wrote here.
mr.Flasher
Elly, amazing! Then I beg your pardon!

There is one more minus in the direction of Kenwood! Well this is an obvious marriage.
Elly
mr.Flasher Apparently a marriage. But the oven bakes and if knowing this feature of it does not touch the panel, then everything is in order.And I don't want to drag it to the service and wait a month. Here, my light is no longer on, but I seem to get around that way. And I have not yet matured to disassemble the stove and change it myself.
mr.Flasher
Elly, uh ... Interestingly, maybe HP has some kind of "Service menu", and there you can enable / disable it ?! Maybe google about it ...
Elly
Quote: Mr. Flasher

Elly, uh ... Interestingly, maybe HP has some kind of "Service menu", and there you can enable / disable it ?! Maybe google about it ...
Until I came across such information ... unfortunately ...
Egecihora
Quote: Elly

But I had the same situation as an_domini, Exactly hurt the start button without pressing it. And neither did she hold back. The program itself remained the same, but the time was reset, that is, the program started working again. By the way, when it happened I wrote here.

I had that too. In order not to spoil the bread, I programmed the stove in accordance with the interrupted program, but from the place when it turned off.
And when you specifically need to turn off the program, you have to hold the button for a long time
mr.Flasher
Egecihora, huh, but you have the opposite. It should be turned off with a long hold, and turned on with a light touch.
Nat_ka
So, which round bucket model fits the Kenwood BM450?
Mellusina
Quote: Nat_ka

So, which round bucket model fits the Kenwood BM450?
51002
Uncle Jenya
Good evening people! I want to join the 450's club. I ask for advice on what to look for when buying a 450th, sellers know how to ship. And no one was disappointed in it after the purchase? , shorter + and -
Vanya28
Pros and cons - read the whole topic, you will see.
There is also a lot in comparison here:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=9843.0
Of the difficulties, they often complain about a light bulb, but this is an expendable material, and it is not difficult for a person with hands to replace it on their own.
Read, and so - this HP is good.
mr.Flasher
Disgusting HP, don't buy!
It's just a flaw in the firmware. A light bulb cannot be replaced by a person with hands! For you will lose the guarantee! Only in the SC.
The bucket does not live long.
In general, I think this is the worst HP. Although bakes fine.
Carolina7
Quote: Uncle Zhenya

Good evening people! I want to join the 450's club. I ask for advice on what to look for when buying a 450th, sellers know how to ship. And no one was disappointed in it after the purchase? , shorter + and -
pay attention to the bucket (there should be no scratches, even small ones), how tightly it sits in the stove (the bucket is inserted at a slight angle and snaps into place with a slight turn to the right), even if they turn it on with you, make sure that it is working.
I am abusing my stove !!!! As for me, she's perfect !! but it looks in the kitchen - "song"
Easy choice and delicious bread !!!
mr.Flasher
The bucket does not snap into place! It simply locks in by turning. ... Of course, this does not change the essence, it is just that a person can persistently reject HP where he does not find a latching mechanism. )

PS Oh, except maybe beautiful ...
Carolina7
Quote: Mr. Flasher

The bucket does not snap into place! It simply locks in by turning.

PS Oh, except maybe beautiful ...
yes, sorry, everything is correct, the bucket is fixed by turning. There is really no click.

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