Coffee. Additives (types, varieties, producers)

How to find out whether the coffee is processed or not, it is in an airtight pack

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The flavored one always says that it is "flavored" or "with a scent XXXXXX" 🔗
By the way, Star, What kind of coffee did you ruin the machine with? Ground or grain?

Thank you Aunt Besya Now I understand and I will be careful when choosing

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Grain ... and I also tried the wrong ground ...
a lot depends on coffee ..... here, read here
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Nut !!!Your president even Lavazza jumped in quality ...

How to tell good from fake coffee
Unscrupulous producers have learned to counterfeit coffee or pass off cheaper coffee beans as high-quality and expensive. The most common trick is dyeing the grains with food coloring, which will give them a richer, noble shade.

But identifying a coffee substitute is very easy: put a couple of beans in a cup of cold water and shake it after a few minutes. With quality coffee, the water will remain colorless, and the tinted beans will give it a light green, brown or blue tint.

The easiest way to fake ground coffee is that under the guise of an expensive product, manufacturers sell a cheap mixture consisting of ground coffee beans, chicory and even roasted barley. You can understand that you have purchased a counterfeit only after you have brewed a cup of coffee: a drink with low taste will give out a fake, but visually, such a mixture is no different from high-quality ground coffee. But in this case, you can experiment: put a spoonful of ground coffee in a glass cup with cold water. The coffee will float to the surface while the impurities settle to the bottom.

Experts recommend buying coffee from manufacturers you have verified in order to reduce the number of unpleasant moments in life.

Based on the materials of IA "Kazakh-Zerno"

Good morning gourmet coffee lovers! :) Just a good mood, which is what I wish for you !!!

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Nut !!!Your president even Lavazza jumped in quality ...

Hello!
I want to share my experience with the public, albeit not great, but still the same experience.
Background: I have been drinking instant coffee all my adult life. He started with the Soviet, then the Brazilian "Pele", then Nestle, Chibo, etc. He inherited the Soviet electric geyser coffee maker (aluminum such), tried to cook ground coffee a couple of times and threw it away without regret. Sometimes I brewed ground (I didn't really look at the varieties of coffee) in a Turk and it seemed to me that this is happiness. Everything was fine, but this summer, while on a business trip, I tried coffee from a coffeemaker. I realized that I hadn't drunk real coffee yet.
I returned from a business trip and started pre-processing my wife for buying a coffee maker. She agreed surprisingly easily and I started choosing a coffee maker. I chose it according to the principle - not very expensive, so that if something happens, I do not regret the lost funds from a well-known manufacturer.
I will not name the company and the model, so as not to be accused of advertising. But...
/ End of prehistory.
Only then did I realize that coffee can be different - aroma, taste, aftertaste ...
The first was the Jockey ground coffee, in a red pack. After the instant it seemed magical, but ...
The second was brought by his wife from Moscow saquella bar italia espresso. And I realized that only at the first stage of the path to perfection.
A millstone coffee grinder was purchased.
The third is a "coffee house on shares" arabica. Friends tried and started asking questions: How much is a coffee maker, coffee grinder?
The fourth is Lavazza qualita oro golden (so far the best for me and my wife). Thanks to you, I learned about the red Lavazza. We will try.
The fifth is Paulig President. A separate song. The aroma, taste, aftertaste is 5+, but it seemed rather weak to me, but our 14-year-old son liked it very much. Before that, he did not drink coffee at all. This one drinks and praises. But when he drank my cup of mixture No. 1 and 2, he did not sleep midnight. But now he asks what is in the cup?
All these varieties gave excellent foam, some higher, some lower. But the taste, color and strength of all markers are different (C).
P.S. I tried to cook all varieties in a Turk. Didn't get even half of that aroma and about the same taste. Perhaps it's in my hands?

Thanks for the interesting story !!!!! But it's not about the hands .... it's just that a Turk cannot create a pressure of 15 barrels !!!! Although real coffee is brewed in the sand ... but that's another story !! I am very glad that there are more coffee lovers !!!!!

format_ct, and you have not tried to buy freshly roasted coffee, and not in vacuum bags, you will immediately feel the difference in taste.

format_ct, and you have not tried to buy freshly roasted coffee, and not in vacuum bags, you will immediately feel the difference in taste.

Sorry, did not understand the question at all?
I can quite clearly feel the difference in taste between the varieties that I have listed.
All this is quite drinkable.
Ground coffee is sold in vacuum bags, and I already have a coffee grinder.
If I knew where freshly roasted coffee is sold in our city, I would try it with pleasure.
In those places where they sell the so-called. "freshly roasted coffee", coffee for some reason does not smell. It is much more fragrant from the package.

And you do not indicate which city you are from ???

And you do not indicate which city you are from ???

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And it would not be bad to indicate the gender in the profile.
It's easier to communicate this way.

format_ct, I just do not drink coffee from packages for a long time, sorry, I don't want to offend anyone, I just think it's not coffee. Fresh coffee is when coffee is roasted no more than 2 weeks ago and a certain variety of Ethiopia or Kenya, when I get green coffee, I buy it myself.

In those places where they sell the so-called. "freshly roasted coffee", coffee for some reason does not smell. It is much more fragrant from the package.

it's the same in my small town! In packages (in stores), coffee is much better than what is offered as elite and freshly roasted. In large cities, apparently, there are problems of choice, but we have a problem in general to find coffee beans on sale

green coffee, then I buy and fry myself.

By the way, during the Soviet deficit there was a moment when roasted coffee disappeared from sale, and green coffee appeared. Well, we were not sophisticated people then were very puzzled and could not accept it in any way, as well as green tea (I remember how my father tried to brew it so that it would "look like tea" - in his words). So this is all a digression, but the point is that none of my friends coffee lovers, and myself, have never learned how to roast coffee. It turns out just not tasty. somewhere not overcooked, somewhere overcooked. And in general, in factories it is fried somehow there in a vacuum, well, I don’t know ... the technology is such that you cannot repeat it at home ...

format_ct, I just do not drink coffee from packages for a long time, sorry, I don't want to offend anyone, I just think it's not coffee. Fresh coffee is when coffee is roasted no more than 2 weeks ago and a certain variety of Ethiopia or Kenya, when I get green coffee, I buy it myself.

So I do not pretend to be true. He told me about his still poor experience in the business of coffee addiction.
I don't know the varieties Ethiopia or Kenya yet. I suspect there are significantly more than two of them.
In my life, I saw green coffee only once in my life, and even that was Vietnamese. I tried to fry it in the oven of a gas stove and I will tell you, I have never tasted more nasty things in my life. Beee ...
If it's not difficult, tell me where you can find the right green coffee, how and where to roast it?
I would like to try.
And further. I'm not looking for caffeinated coffee. I'm afraid it might kill me. Not very sour taste, aroma and pleasant aftertaste are important to me.
Thank you in advance.

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By the way, during the Soviet deficit there was a moment when roasted coffee disappeared from sale, and green coffee appeared.
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the bottom line is that none of my friends coffee lovers and myself, never learned how to roast coffee. It turns out just not tasty. somewhere not overcooked, somewhere overcooked. ...

There are two of us with similar problems.
We ask for a master class on the extraction of the right green coffee and its competent roasting.

Well, unfortunately, we have only one type of green coffee in Moscow, this is Nicaragua, I fry it in an electric oven, although this is not correct, I need to stir constantly in the pan, I don’t fry much, because I don’t like deep roasted coffee, but I don’t like Vietnamese coffee also did not like it is not tasty. I keep my green coffee in the freezer so it doesn't go bad. On weekends I will try to fry and take pictures. I buy coffee in a specialized cafe-coffee shop Cafein.
format_ct, Rina05 write in which city you live.

Well, unfortunately we have only one type of green coffee in Moscow, this is Nicaragua, I fry it in an electric oven
What about Ethiopia, Kenya?
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Vietnamese coffee, I didn't like it either, it's not tasty
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You said it very politically correct. Acorns or chicory are better.

... I keep the green coffee in the freezer so it doesn't go bad. On weekends I will try to fry and take pictures. I buy coffee in a specialized cafe-coffee shop Cafein.
Thank you, we'll take a look.
format_ct, Rina05 write in which city you live.

So, in the profile indicated. Well, it's not a problem to repeat: Russia, Kaluga.

format_ct, Ethiopia and Kenya I have not seen green on sale, I buy it fried, in general Ethiopia is a common name, it comes in different varieties I like Irgochif more, it is softer and softer.

format_ct, I just do not drink coffee from bags for a long time, sorry I don't want to offend anyone, I just think it's not coffee. Fresh coffee is when coffee is roasted no more than 2 weeks ago and of a certain type of Ethiopia or Kenya, when I get green coffee, I buy it myself.

Sorry for the tediousness. From your subsequent answers, I realized that it is problematic to buy green coffee from Ethiopia and Kenya. Who, when and where fries it? How does it get to Moscow, except in packages? Why are you sure the coffee was not roasted more than 2 weeks ago? How long should it take from customs clearance to sales in stores, for example, in Kaluga?
How can I buy freshly roasted coffee? Green from Nicaragua? How does this relate to Kenya and Ethiopia?
Yeah ... questions, questions?
This is not a run over you personally. I'm looking for the answer to simple, seemingly questions.

Why are you sure the coffee was not roasted more than 2 weeks ago?

I'm not Tanya, but I will answer for myself. When I buy freshly roasted coffee, I focus only on the roast date on the bag.

Rina05 write in which city you live.

I apologize already, I indicated that I live in the Rostov region. And our conversation, in my opinion, boils down to one truth that not all that is gold .... or taste and color .... In short, everyone chooses for himself what he can or wants at the moment. It's just that I was personally somehow hurt here by one phrase that good coffee cannot cost less than N-sum of money there. I do not agree.

I'm not Tanya, but I will answer for myself. When I buy freshly roasted coffee, I focus only on the roast date on the bag.

I can't see the roast date on the bag. Expiration date only. Tell me where to look?

It's just that I was somehow hurt here by one phrase that good coffee cannot cost less than N-sum of money there. I do not agree.

In vain make a row.
It's just that everyone is looking for something different from coffee. There is no universally accepted concept of "good coffee".
Give me an exquisite taste and aroma.
Kazaku - more caffeine.
To many - the smell of coffee is okay.
There are other lovers of the strange.
Who are you arguing with now?

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I can't see the roast date on the bag. Expiration date only. Tell me where to look?

Format_ct, as I understand it, you are not buying freshly roasted coffee, but simply coffee beans in bags, therefore you do not see the roasting date.

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Format_ct, I understand that you are not buying freshly roasted coffee, but simply coffee beans in bags, therefore you do not see the roasting date.

It looks like it is. If it's not difficult, tell me how to buy freshly roasted coffee so that the roast date matches the date on the bag.
I already know how to buy coffee with the date of sale on the package.

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Format_ct, as I understand it, you are not buying freshly roasted coffee, but simply coffee beans in bags, therefore you do not see the roasting date.

I'm ready to buy a few kilograms of ready-made, good green coffee and slowly roast them. I will draw my date, at least on a printer, at least with a ballpoint pen. Are you ready to reveal to me those secret places of roasting and selling, not yet roasted, good Ethiopian, Columbian and other "just yesterday unroasted grains"?

Tell me how to buy freshly roasted coffee so that the roast date matches the date on the bag.

We have a huge O'key hypermarket next to our house, and freshly roasted, but already ground coffee (more often different types of Montana: Kenya, Ethiopia, Java, Sulawesi, Sumatra, Brazil, Colombia, Costa Rica, Guatemala, French, Vienna) lies on shelves next to vacuum-sealed coffee packages. Freshly roasted, packed in narrow bags with very bright labels. They have a single date for roasting and packaging (as it is written on the side of the bag, and the merchandiser in the market confirmed this) on the bottom border of the bag. The packet should be labeled "Ground Fresh Roasted Coffee". This coffee is 100-140 rubles more expensive than red Lavazza for the same 250 g, but it doesn't make much of an impression on me. I still prefer Lavazza. Freshly roasted, ground coffee is rarely sold in exactly the same bags. Basically, we sell it in a coffee boutique at the same hypermarket. The photo is not clearer due to the glare of the packaging.

On the packaging with freshly roasted coffee, it is recommended to store it in the freezer.

[Comrade coffee lovers! And in advertising they say that coffee brings you closer! If you clash from scratch, I will get angry !!!]

Comrade coffee lovers! And in advertising they say that coffee brings you closer! If you clash from scratch, I will get angry !!!

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in okay, by the way, lavazza gold 2 packages for the price of the 1st. in advertising it is not and on the price tags too. only the packs are twisted with tape at 2.so if someone wants to save 700 rubles per kg - welcome

Ground???

That's interesting, I want Lavazza 2 for the price of 1. We bought to try Turati Privileggio, I don't have a scent, and that's it. And yesterday I ground an ordinary real one - no fortress, but the aroma, as I like.

Ground???

beans

On the packaging with freshly roasted coffee, it is recommended to store it in the freezer.

Exactly. All coffee, including opened vacuum packaging, is best kept in the freezer and even better - no more than 2 weeks.

We have a huge O'key hypermarket next to our house, and freshly roasted, but already ground coffee (more often different types of Montana: Kenya, Ethiopia, Java, Sulawesi, Sumatra, Brazil, Colombia, Costa Rica, Guatemala, French, Vienna) lies on shelves next to vacuum-sealed coffee packages. Freshly roasted, packed in narrow bags with very bright labels. They have a single date for roasting and packaging (as it is written on the side of the bag, and the merchandiser in the market confirmed this) on the bottom border of the bag. The bag should be labeled "Ground Fresh Roasted Coffee". This coffee is 100-140 rubles more expensive than red Lavazza for the same 250 g, but it doesn't make much of an impression on me. I still prefer Lavazza. Freshly roasted, ground coffee is rarely sold in exactly the same bags. Basically, we sell it in a coffee boutique at the same hypermarket. The photo is not clearer due to the glare of the packaging.

Thank you very much!!!
You have answered almost all of my questions!
What does it look like? Where can I buy? Is it worth it - how much does it cost?
The moderators have the right to beat me for overclocking, but I do not see any extra words in this message.
Once again, Thank you, comrade Panevg1943!

Kenya, Ethiopia, Java, Sulawesi, Sumatra, Brazil, Colombia, Costa Rica, Guatemala, French, Vienna

How beautiful and tempting it sounds ...

so it is written on the side of the bag, and the merchandiser in the market confirmed it on the bottom border of the bag.

What a pity that I have grown up already. I don’t believe in Santa Claus for a long time. And I will never take the word of a merchandiser in trade.

Thank you very much!!!
You have answered almost all of my questions!

No thanks, especially since your optimism dried up and a stream of skepticism began to flow.

What a pity that I have grown up already. And I will never take the word of a merchandiser in trade.

Your right. I have nothing else to help you with.

The fourth is Lavazza qualita oro golden (so far the best for me and my wife). Thanks to you, I learned about the red Lavazza. We will try.
The fifth is Paulig President. A separate song. The aroma, taste, aftertaste is 5+, but it seemed rather weak to me, but our 14-year-old son liked it very much. Before that, he did not drink coffee at all.

For some reason I could not find a red Lavazza in the nearest stores. Nothing, I'll find, I'll try.
Today I went to the tea-coffee shop closest to the house.
Sixth - I saw the package, read: "Madeo. Freshly roasted coffee. Plantation coffee. Nicaragua Maragogype. Large grains of excellent strong Nicaraguan coffee. The infusion is tart, with a bitter astringent taste."
The price is almost two and a half times higher than on Lavazza or Paulig. The girl - the saleswoman cheerfully reported that this variety is in great demand and, fortunately, they sell it by weight. I took 50 grams for a sample and ...?
Smooth grains of the same size, one, but some kind of gray-gray color. I ground, cooked, tasted.
My conclusion: he is clearly inferior to Paulig President and nifiga is not worth the money.
So far, Lavazza qualita oro rules for me.
Where else can you see?

[Maragodjeep]

Maragodjeep - very, very large grains, noticeably different from others. The type of roasting depends on the manufacturer, that is, the company that roasts. the variety name does not imply a specific roast.
All Maragodjeep varieties are sour, so I don't really like it, but so. decent grade

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Maragodjeep - very, very large grains, noticeably different from others. The type of roasting depends on the manufacturer, that is, the company that roasts. the variety name does not imply a specific roast.
All Maragodjeep varieties are sour, so I don't really like it, but so. decent grade

A decent variety, I do not argue with that.
I did not feel the sourness, the grains are really lovely for the eyes. The aroma is present, but somehow without a highlight or something? I cannot describe it in words. And the drink is somehow too weak and watery from this. And most importantly, it is not worth the money that is asked for it.
Paulig President covers it lightly and naturally.

I would not judge branded varieties by the weight of unknown companies, after all, it is not known how long ago they bought and fried this maragojeep ...

Paulig Prezident does not belong to elite brands, for example, it makes no sense to compare it with Lavazza. And it seems to me just incorrect to compare a sort of coffee with a brand. My personal opinion

I would not judge branded varieties by the weight of unknown companies, after all, it is not known how long ago they bought and fried this maragojeep ...

Paulig President does not belong to elite brands; for example, it makes no sense to compare him with Lavazza. And it seems to me just incorrect to compare a sort of coffee with a brand. My personal opinion

Excuse me, for God's sake! I didn't come here to swear.
I'm not trying to impose my opinion on anyone. I don't even know anything about brands in the coffee market.
Everything that I have written is my personal opinion. My taste and my aftertaste.
I'm not trying to judge anyone, I just express my IMHO.
Is it forbidden here?

I just expressed my personal opinion

I would like to warn against buying loose teas and coffee in all sorts of shopping centers and hypermarkets. For you will never know what exactly you bought by composition, and the origin of this something.

I would like to warn against buying loose teas and coffee in all sorts of shopping centers and hypermarkets. For you will never know what exactly you bought by composition, and the origin of this something.

and age too

and age too

I will not say about age, although most likely not the first freshness of the products, but the absence of 100% Arabica, the presence of a lethal dose of flavors, and sleeping tea - do not go to the grandmother here.

I won't say about age, although most likely not the first freshness of the products, but the absence of 100% Arabica, the presence of a lethal dose of flavors, and sleeping tea - don't go to the grandmother here.

Well, this is how my skepticism grows from this root. I bought the "Freshly Roasted Nicaraguan" today. Fuflo and scam. Come on, we'll fill in any coffee !!! The more attendants, the cooler the coffee !!!

I bought this coffee:



Oh, who would have known how I didn't like him !!! Neither aroma, nor taste, but that's not mine straight ... I can't imagine where is it now? The toad does not allow throwing it away, but my strength is no longer to drink, I have forced myself to "love" him for a week ... yesterday I finally bought Lavazza, which I love so much, so the second series "love me as I am" is canceled .. ...