tefteli
Miranda1980, I mean the build quality and reliability. In terms of the quality of washing, the same model, but of a different assembly, will practically not differ. Although it can be like with the powder of the same brand: from abroad, the powder is more concentrated and cleans better, and local (Russian-made) - less concentrated (diluted) and, as a result, the quality of the wash is worse. So in a typewriter, when assembling in Russia, something may not be completed, for example, to save on material for noise insulation and, as a result, there will be more noise than in a European assembly. And it is also bad to screw or connect parts, and sometimes replace parts with analog ones, and then such a machine will not last long. If you compare prices for the same model, but with a different build, they will be different. A European assembly machine will cost several times more. This begs the question why ?, but because even parts for the Russian assembly are made either in China or in Russia, saving on materials, respectively, the percentage of rejects is very high. Of course, you can take the Russian assembly, but how lucky. In general, before choosing a typewriter, look at the reviews, paying attention to which type of assembly machine.
Umka
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sazalexter
After 14 years of merciless operation, my ARDO TL800X washer died. there was a knock ...
Rotted silumin support (rotation support) 236004700

Washing machine: which one to buy


attached to a stainless steel drum Corrodes at first something like this

Washing machine: which one to buy



then the pieces just fall off.
and it looks like 236002300 at the same time the tank lid also breaks, with this malfunction, bearings and oil seals are usually changed ...
In short, the manufacturer has laid the place of the breakage in the structure, which occurs after 7-15 years, the silumin slowly collapses under the influence of the powder
The repair is time consuming, it was decided to buy a new Electrolux EWT 1066 TDW washing machine, I am testing
Umka
sazalexter, Alexander, if it does not bother you, then unsubscribe then how is it to you ??? !!! I really trust your comments and advice !!!
sazalexter
Budget vertical washing machine Electrolux EWT 1066 TDW
First impressions, made soundly, from an engineering point of view, outwardly thoughtful.
Stainless steel drum, carbonran tank. The main seal is located in the door, a definite plus.
There is a quick wash program (30 min)
The "Time Manager" function of the Electrolux wash chip allows you to change the wash cycle 2-2.5 times up or down.
Bright display showing the remaining wash time and the function currently being performed.
The pump filter is hidden inside the tank under a special door, a rather controversial decision, time will tell its correctness.
Snooze timer up to 20 hours.
The machine has been produced since 2013, it was replaced by EWT1066TSW, the main difference of which is the soft opening of the drum flaps
sazalexter
I continue testing Electrolux EWT 1066 TDW.
Washing a full tank of dark clothes, men's panties, socks, black T-shirts with a print ... Cotton, 40 * time reduced by the time manager to 1h30 minutes spinning 1000 rpm, additional rinsing. One Persil Duo-caps as a wash.
The result in comparison with the old Ardo: it is perfectly washed, but at the same time, the time spent is 2 times less. T-shirts had to be rinsed additionally, but this traditionally had to be done in Ardo.
Erases quieter than Ardo, two times, squeezes out in noise the same way, but the sounds of the spin moved higher in tone. The washing machine does not move on the floor, although there were doubts, the weight was only 56 kg versus 80 kg Ardo
tana33
sazalexter, do not wring out T-shirts for 1000, better 600 (with print) -800, this will keep them looking longer)))
sazalexter
tana33, Tatyana, thank you for your feedback, as I usually do, I just had the task of checking the washing machine at maximum spin speed. On knitwear and shirts made of bamboo viscose, somehow my hand did not rise.
Njashka
Quote: sazalexter
ARDO TL800X
She herself couldn't get enough of it.
I served for 8 years, and problems with the drum began .. it was not bearings, but some kind of welding-welding .. once they did it and after 3 years it flew again .. there it was thoroughly necessary to cook, my father said that it was too long, dreary and some kind of alloy is needed .. so we bought a new one.
We wanted the same one, but we didn’t find any more ... there is not even such a brand on our market anymore ..
Albina
On Sunday we bought some kind of Chinese Haier typewriter on the recommendation of the seller. Our Boshik served faithfully for about 18 years And I went with confidence to buy Boshik. But they said that now we have Bosches of our Russian assembly.
mowgli
and I bought an LV - everyone praises it very much, all our friends have LV
Matilda_81
Quote: Albina
But they said that now we have Bosches of our Russian assembly.
and what is bad about our Russian assembly? do not make an ax
bought the father-in-law and mother-in-law of LV, collected in the suburbs, in Dorokhovo, works like a clock, nothing falls off anywhere, performs all the declared functions.
Albina
They said it breaks in a year
Matilda_81
Quote: Albina
They said it breaks in a year
I stopped listening to consultants a long time ago
vatruska
My aunt has a lie, she is happy, but when she came to visit us and looked at WHAT I was washing on Siemens, she said that she would not take it either, and also said that she rinses the laundry by hand, and then throws it back into the machine for spinning - she does not rinse it ... Well, I have a narrow one and I rinse with 2 more cycles.
mowgli
Quote: Albina

They said it breaks in a year
lie
mowgli
Quote: vatruska

My aunt has a lie, she is happy, but when she came to visit us and looked at WHAT I was washing on Siemens, she said that she would not take it either, and also said that she rinses the laundry by hand, and then throws it back into the machine for spinning - she does not rinse it ... Well, I have a narrow one and I rinse with 2 more cycles.
Everything is normal with me and everything is rinsed, I even wash blankets
Albina
Natalia, and what kind of blankets do you wash?
mowgli
lorries and sentipon and woolen, I have a load of 6 kg
vatruska
mowgli, so you have a full size ... an idiot's dream ... I won't fit ...
mowgli
in the sense of? And what did Albina ask about the narrow one?
vatruska
Yes, not ... I quietly envy it ... such white envy ... do not pay attention to me ...
Albina
I have a full-size washer. Because of her, my husband had to expose the door to the bathroom, and then insert it again.
I have a question about blankets such as pile can be washed in a washing machine? Or just take them to dry cleaning?
mowgli
Albina, I don’t understand what kind of nap it is?
Matilda_81
I here once wrote about my incident, we have Hans's car, it was going to Slovakia, my cattle gnawed the sealing rubber of the tank, we were waiting for the STE ring from Slovakia for three months. Therefore, let the factory with spare parts be your own dear and closer.
Albina
It is most likely called a blanket with different patterns. At first they are very soft, and then they somehow become coarse. So I think, can I wash it?
mowgli
Albina, it's okay for a lorry, but the 2-bed does not pull, I have old blankets, they are still soft
Anchic
Quote: Albina
On Sunday we bought some kind of Chinese Haier typewriter on the recommendation of the seller. Our Boshik served faithfully for about 18 years And I went with confidence to buy Boshik. But they said that now we have Bosches of our Russian assembly.
We did it right. Now Boshi is made with a non-separable drum. We bought Bosik in 2010. Served 4 years and the bearing flew. To replace it, you need to disassemble the drum. And he is ... unworkable. Accordingly, either change the drum (they found out the price, they said from 9t. R.), or change the whole machine. Moreover, the drum still has to wait a month until it is delivered to order. We chose to replace the typewriter. We took Samsung.When the husband received the typewriter, the first thing he did was to see if the drum could understand. He then read a lot on typewriters, came to the conclusion that now it is better to take Koreans. Indesite is generally not worth taking - they are completely fucked up in quality.
Tanyusha
Anchic, are you sure that your car is made in Korea?
Anchic
Tanyusha, no, and it makes no difference to me. I myself work in the development of electronic devices. We order the printed circuit boards themselves in China, the soldering is really already with us, in Moscow we have our line. Therefore, I look at the Chinese production normally. I mean Koreans by origin of the brand (LG and Samsung). But the Europeans began to make cars so that in case of any breakdown it could not be repaired. Maybe after a while the Koreans will come to that. But for now, they can still be repaired. Simply replacing the bearing is not an expensive repair. And even my husband himself could change him. If you could get to him.
Bijou
Quote: Anchic
To replace it, you need to disassemble the drum.
Tank.
Bosch has only one model with a non-separable tank. Which was formerly Spanish, and now Turkish. Everyone else seems to understand.
Anna1957
Quote: Bijou

Tank.
Bosch has only one model with a non-separable tank. Which was formerly Spanish, and now Turkish. Everyone else seems to understand.
Which one? So as not to get stuck
Bijou
Anna1957, WAQ. Well, Siemens, accordingly, will have "Q" in the middle of the issue. This is a rather old line, apparently, released on top of vario-soft drums, which too many people did not like for their "thermal-like" - here the surface is also not smooth, but nevertheless more elegant than WAS and WAY. ))

This year, there was a darkness of new models, including Turkish ones. Perhaps I won't vouch for them - maybe there is the same trouble there now? ((Russians seem to understand everything. But before buying it is useful to find out more precisely.
I just know that the Elekrolux are all non-collapsible for a long time, even the top ones.
Anna1957
I have to buy a new one not quite in the near future, but in the foreseeable one. I can’t even imagine yet: with vertical loading, with frontal, with the depth I have not yet decided - the repair has not yet begun. But wait, I will listen to experienced users.
Bijou
Anna1957, the models change so often that it is almost impossible to constantly be aware of what is happening. ((Just as soon as you start from the second attempt to understand what kind of car in front of you, like bam - it is no longer there, and it was replaced by almost the same, but different. .. With new advantages and new jambs. Go figure out what to fear.
Aunt Besya
In January, I changed my 20-year-old old lady with a dryer for a German-assembled full-size simmens with an intelligent dosing system. It seems to erase nothing, spin 1600
Matilda_81
Quote: Anchic
Indesite is generally not worth taking - they are completely fucked up in quality.
In the summer we bought Indesit for mom, the control is simple, nothing pops and does not play anywhere, it is done neatly, it washes well. My mom is happy.
Anchic
Matilda_81, well, let it work longer. Just a few months is not a time for a washing machine
Matilda_81
Quote: Anchic
Matilda_81, well, let him work longer. Just a few months is not a time for a washing machine
Well, I hope that it will work, but I bought for my beloved mom and tried to take a simple, unblemished one from reviews and reviews so that it would not break.
Inusya
Quote: Anchic

I myself work in the development of electronic devices. We order the printed circuit boards themselves in China, the soldering is really already with us, in Moscow we have our line.

Anna, would you give any good advice?
About my hope from the master to find new module for Indesit WDS 1040 TX (1998). The "brain" broke down in the 17th year of life, the master promised to find something to bring "from there" (by the way, there was a native Mitsubishi company ...)
And I cannot part with the machine in any way (under two waters, a stainless steel drum 1 mm thick, with drying ...), I’m a baluvan for quality, so I’m waiting, but something with the search does not work out.
Tell me your opinion, is it really possible to wait or not to hope?

Anchic
Inusya, well it is necessary to find the same machine.By the way, I sold my broken Bosch either for a thousand, or for one and a half with self-pickup from my apartment. It was bought by a rugged man who fixes cars for himself and close friends. That is, my car had a living brain. And he acquired it precisely because of the brain. So you can try to pick up brains. But your machine is too old, so it will be hard to search. It's just that new machines are unlikely to be compatible - now there are other operating voltages for microcircuits and other nuances.
Inusya
Anya, thank you ...
.. well, let it probably stand still, wait, ... suddenly I'm lucky ...
Vintage
Quote: Matilda_81

I here once wrote about my incident, we have Hans's car, it was going to Slovakia, my cattle gnawed the sealing rubber of the tank, we were waiting for the STE ring from Slovakia for three months. Therefore, let the factory with spare parts be your own and closer.

It's sad (But at least everything ended well) Pah-pah, our cat has not yet attempted a washing machine. Our Hansa is already 3 years old, she is very happy - she works quietly, washes everything perfectly, very spacious tank)
Matilda_81
Quote: Vintage
Our Hansa is already 3 years old, she is very happy - she works quietly, washes everything perfectly, very spacious tank)
Vintage, Hansa is great, she is also 3 years old with us, I am very happy with her work.
Aunt Besya
Girls, who in the recent past bought cars: now the requirements for connecting to the sewer have not changed? I remember that earlier it was precisely stipulated that the hose and the entrance to the sewer should not be lower than a certain height .. I bought a machine for my son, I haven’t connected it yet due to the incompleteness of the repair, but there is not a word about this in the instructions .. not a picture Took an Electrolux EWS 1477 FDW Italian assemblies
Bijou
Quote: Aunt Besya
Took Electrolux EWS 1477 FDW Italian assembly
Congratulations.

Yes, it seems that there were no such requirements before - my car works quietly if the hose is simply thrown over the floor.

You can check - lower the hose lower and pour water into the machine - if it flows out, draw the appropriate conclusions from this.))
When connecting, it is usually required to make a loop noticeably above the water level in the tank - yes. Well, to ensure the difference in diameters between the hose itself and the pipeline, the so-called "jet gap". So that there is no self-drain.
Aunt Besya
Yes .. the sewerage system has already been prepared, and on the floor, so I started thinking ... what if something is wrong, it can't be changed. True, the bath is nearby, you can throw it on the edge
Albina
And my husband installed a hose from the washer directly into the drain (I don't know the details). I remember my first car, which had a hose in the bathroom. The machine did an excellent job. But it was not convenient. Sometimes you throw the hose on the floor and forget it and turn it on. I had a case, though we lived on the first floor. I started the car and didn't check it. We arrive in a few hours
Aunt Besya
We also poured the first machine into the bathtub, we also poured neighbors once, well, at least only the lower ones (I'm on the third). It was just embarrassing that in January of this year I changed my machine and when the master connected it, he grumbled at the plumber that the drain was too low, in the sense that the place where the machine's hose enters the sewer socket is low from the floor. I later found in the instructions for that machine that it was not important. But in this one there is absolutely no word about connection .. not a word at all!
Bijou
Aunt Besya, and the hose comes out from the bottom or top of the body?
Quote: Aunt Besya
Yes .. the sewers have already been prepared, and on the floor, so I started thinking ...
Looking like on the floor. Is the pipe right under the baseboard? Is it wide or narrow?

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