Washing machine: which one to buy

Pipe 50, above the baseboard, but where it comes from, as I will be in that apartment, I will definitely look! I just took the instructions to read the instructions at my leisure, so the question arose .. These strange bourgeois, they will write in instructions like "do not put a pack of powder in the drum", but then the necessary things and not a goog

Oh well ... it seemed to be in my instructions.)
But in my Bosh, protection from the fool was originally laid down - the hose is already coming out from under the lid, so it’s equally where to stick it, just not into a narrow tube.))

Boshiki fellows! That also confused, usually in the instructions there are always a bunch of drawings. and here is the description of the programs and how to clean the filter and that's it

Girls and boys help powder! I bought a washing machine LG F10B8ND, I don't know how to turn off the sound, or does it not turn off at all? There is a shutdown function only after the start of the wash, but while you start the program, all the brains are cut off.

how to turn off the sound,

Manual for washing machine LG F10B8ND page 21

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It can be seen that it's also time to buy a new car.
I choose from Lg, maybe someone has models F12U2HCS2 or F12U2HDS1.

Lots of options, in fact. You can buy a bosch washing machine 🔗 they have proven themselves very well. I have already purchased equipment from this manufacturer. I am very satisfied.

I bought a Miele without drying that year. Classic, delayed. Really like.

Really like.

What about the price?

What about the price?

I am not very rich to buy bad washing machines.

[Electrolux EWW51685WD]

Girls, maybe someone has a washer-dryer Electrolux EWW51685WD ?
I’m thinking about her. There are pros and cons. I would like to hear the reviews of real users of this machine.

Girls and boys! Dear, tell me the direct drive of the electric motor is it good? But how do you know if the tank is disassembled to replace the bearing? Here the girls wrote that it was necessary for the tank to be sorted out. How to find out? Thanks to everyone who responds.

[Esfir]

Esfir, I recommend that you come here.

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Here you can ask any question to practitioners and washing machine owners. I chose myself here.
As for the direct drive (also considered), then it also has its pros and cons. I did not see any particular advantages and weeded out. A collapsible tank is a big plus! This should be clarified with the manufacturer and at the forum indicated by me.
Good luck with your choice!

Vit! Thank you, I'll go read it!

[Wit]

I chose myself here.

Wit, and which one did you choose?
I think that my car will soon bark, it’s already ... I don’t remember exactly, but much more than 15 years old. So I began to think a little, in which direction to tear the claws, if urgently needed.

[Elena Tim]

Elena Tim, and which one is there now? Can you read about the new products of your manufacturer ???

I have an Electrolysis machine with a dryer. But I read that now Electrolux is not at all what it used to be. So I wonder if it's worth overpaying for the brand.

[Lenochek]

Lenochek, I have the same song ... My Ariston is 14 years old and I just don't breathe on him and pray that he will wait until I run out of fin. crisis and I will reach Europe ...
Now everything is going to Russia, so I am also at a dead end / in the throes of choice

in the throes of choice

Well, sho ... Let us torment together - together, then it is always more fun.

together, it is always more fun.

Aha !!!

Having worked for 15 years, Zanussi started off with the drying mind .....: girl_cray1: The machine itself is in perfect condition, but they cannot correct the brain. They say this spare part was made in Donetsk ........and it is not possible to get it now ... So now I have the torment of choice ...

[SinichkaV]

SinichkaV, and not to order in Russia?

Well, sho ... Let's torment together - together, then it is always more fun.

and can I torment with you? And I need, and a washing machine, and a refrigerator, and an oven, etc., and still a good one and cheaper

[Svetlana]

Svetlana, In the service center, we were told that they could not order such a part ..... they probably broke their channels ... and immediately offered to give it to recycling. Good guys, damn it ..... everything else in the car is perfect. I can imagine how much they would have cooked. In general, now you need to buy a new one. And the Zanussi are not at all like they used to be. We are trying, of course, to find a part through our channels, but for now, alas .... Maybe you will get lucky? Or maybe not..

Added Wednesday 20 Apr 2016 3:07 PM

Louise, yeah, come in: crazy: We have a lot of places here ... I also need a refrigerator ..... as you come to the store, so the eye drops from the price ..... and not the fact that for this money you will get a good product ...

Now everything is going to Russia

Not everything, I have Electrolux Electrolux EWT1066 TDW Poland, a bunch of laundry are generally made in Italy, France. There is a factory in Ukraine and China. In Russia, in St. Petersburg, the luxury plant was closed, it is not profitable. 🔗

[louisa]

louisa, I asked for a reason - climb on the Internet, because there are a lot of services that make money on the sale of spare parts that they will not send by mail or what? Right now, near the refrigerator, the cover on the freezer box has broken - this model has already been discontinued, production from Denmark has been moved to Turkey (hurt yourself!) - I found a service and on Wednesday (pah-pah) I will have the cover.

Not all

Thank you very much, Alexander, you are our kind Wizard !!!

a bunch of washes are generally made in Italy

but this does not mean at all that they will work reliably in the Russian Federation!

which way to tear the claws ...

LG advised me to be a master repairman whom I have known and trusted for a long time.

advised LG.

Maybe ... and the parts are traditionally easier to find and there are many workshops, they are assembled in Russia

collect them just in Russia

therefore, they are more adapted to the peculiarities of our water and electricity networks.
as he said. but I still turn on the cm through the stabilizer.

For me, an important criterion when choosing a machine was the functionality with a gentle wash, a normal display with a normal countdown of the washing time, a timer and "Time Manager", the country of origin was secondary, any equipment breaks down, even Miele's washing machines https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=68115.700 Before that, there was a clean Italian woman, she did not complain about the network, as did the car from Poland, at 190 volts they at least washed both.

[sazalexter]

therefore, they are more adapted to the peculiarities of our water and electricity networks.

Most of all they - ALL PRESENT - are adapted to squeezing money out of the owners. sazalexter, right: now it is not so important where the CM was assembled and made. The opinion of several service technicians: Machines 10 ... 15 years old must be repaired to the stop. They will serve as many more. The current ones, by agreement of the manufacturers of ALL sophisticated equipment, are sharpened for a short-term operation and expensive repairs. If the equipment works for a long time, there will be overproduction and shutdown of enterprises. So the workers are on the street. Care, however! Capitalism! So do not ask me, unlike Sasha, I am not "our savior"
I then decided to take for myself not an expensive one, with hassle-free spare parts, with a three-year warranty, a collapsible tank, with a timer and a delay, a bunch of programs from which we use 3 ... 4 pieces. I did the same with the refrigerator.
Happy choice everyone!

Machines 10 ... 15 years old must be repaired to the stop

Quite controversial. To repair and further feed servicemen ... there are fewer and fewer parts for old equipment, electronics units are aging, 15 years is a long time. Plus, morally outdated functionality.
Failure rate

The failure rate is the frequency with which failures occur. If the equipment consists of several elements, then its failure rate is equal to the sum of the failure rates of all elements, the failures of which lead to equipment malfunction.
The failure rate versus operating time is shown in the figure below.
At the start of operation (at time t = 0), a large number of elements are put into operation. This collection of elements may initially have a high failure rate due to defective samples. Since the defective elements fail one after the other, the failure rate decreases relatively quickly during the running-in period and becomes approximately constant by the time of normal operation (T norms), when the defective elements have already failed and have been replaced with operable ones.
The set of elements that have passed the running-in period has the lowest failure rate, which remains approximately constant until the beginning of the failure of the elements, due to wear (T wear). From this point on, the failure rate begins to increase.

Mean time between failures
Mean time between failures is the ratio of the total hours worked to the total number of failures. During the period of normal operation, when the failure rate is approximately constant, mean time between failures is the inverse of the failure rate:

Uptime probability.
Probability of uptime is the likely or expected number of devices that will function without failure for a given period of time:

This formula is valid for all devices that have been burned in but are not affected by wear. Therefore, the time t cannot exceed the period of normal operation of the devices.

A graph showing the likelihood of no-failure versus normal operating time is shown below:

Probability of failure-free operation depending on the operating time

LG advised me to be a master repairman whom I have known and trusted for a long time.

Thank you! I, too, on a tip from the masters began to glance towards LG.

My washing machine was 20 years old in February. The master also advises Lg. I read on the forums of repairmen-servicemen that Lg puts the know-how on the direct drive motor on some of its machines, that is, there will be no belt drive and the machine will seem to be much quieter and less jumping, but at the same time the masters say that this is fortunate only at first and not for long, and then the machine may fail faster, because even with a 10-year warranty for the motor, if the bearing breaks down and water gets into the engine, then this is not a warranty case. And with direct drive, the bearings are the fastest and crumble. All in thought. To take a typewriter with or without direct drive?
I also found out that now all washing machines have a plastic tank! There are collapsible and non-collapsible tanks. The collapsible tank is repairable. A non-collapsible tank must be ordered with all the filling at the price of 30-40-50% of the cost of a new car. From poverty, they saw plastic tanks, change the broken part inside, then glue it together and process it with a sealant. And I also found out that they no longer produce washing machines with old simple and reliable mechanics, all machines have exclusively electronic brains that are buggy. Every second breakdown is a failure of the "brains". Repairers also say that all cars of any brand now live 3-5-7 years. Three years - and what, the warranty period the car served, and no one else promised!
5 years is already very good. 7 years old - you are very lucky! Therefore, they urge not to take expensive cars, because they live no longer than others, but spare parts for them are much more expensive and you have to wait from the manufacturer for more than one week. Here's how to choose a typewriter ?!

I have had a direct-drive ski for 8 years, after 3 years, exactly after the end of the warranty, my brain broke, the board was replaced ... and it makes noise and jumps more abruptly than my mother's Samsung. So that

[m0use]

m0use, Ksyusha, thanks for the tip, I'm more inclined to take without a direct drive, even if in cars with a direct drive, with the same machine dimensions, the tank capacity is larger, that is, the tank is already 6 liters with a direct drive, and 5 liters without direct drive, because the belt pulley takes up space. In my old 5-liter machine, I successfully washed a variety of quilted and quilted blankets that I had sewn and quilted.

[sazalexter]

sazalexter, Sasha, what breaks with miele?

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There is an active promotion of votes for lg cars on the Yandex market, a couple of months ago this was not. I have been choosing for a long time, so it caught my eye. Before that, the kandy was wound. This is suspicious ...... a ski was not even listed on my list of choices for cars a month ago, but now, according to reviews, I would run straight and buy without hesitation. So for sure she will not settle with me ..... I look at Atlanta, who took, tell me, pliz.

[Valentine]

I look at Atlanta, who took, tell me, pliz.

Valentine, I have Atlant now, before that there was AEG - my age, served faithfully and when the master said that it could not be repaired, I had to urgently take what I had money for. In the store, they were actively stuck in lg, and I immediately rejected active advertising. In general, they took Atlant from the last line for 6 kg. What can I say - it erases no worse than AEG, but! for me there is a significant "but" - in it, unlike the previous machine, I cannot wash a blanket, for example, it simply does not fit into it, and there is no half wash in my machine - it is very annoying, and when I bought it, I did not pay attention - I thought that all cars have it

[Tina]

Tina, Thank you! Here, too, with finances strained, so I look at the Atlant. You need a 6 or 7 kg machine to wash blankets and rugs. But half load is also needed. Another wash of down jackets and a quick wash. Boom to look by the way about skiing, they also wrote that it seems like a 6 kg drum, but it turned out to be the same as a 5 kg in another brand ... so you can guess the fig ... if you just go to the store with a blanket

You need a 6 or 7 kg machine to wash blankets and rugs. But half load is also needed. Another wash of down jackets and a quick wash.

a double woolen blanket just doesn't fit into mine - a dead room, there is a quick wash - 15 minutes, there is also a wash of outerwear, it washes normally - I wash my husband's down jackets. Next time, when I have to choose a car, I will shrink wherever possible, but I will take AEG or Zanussi, Electrolux, there is still more comfort

Zanussi now also seem to be not very expensive. Up to 30 thousand. What's the catch? I watched them, but there are very few reviews, somehow scary ...

there is no half wash in my machine

Many modern machines have an automatic water dispensing function. If there is not enough laundry, then the machine pours less water than in a full cycle. And the half wash is meaningless.

Zanussi now also seem to be not very expensive. Up to 30 thousand. What's the catch?

in the country of production - washing machines not only in Italy (and do they make them there at all), but also in Poland and Ukraine, I was looking for clean Italians for a dishwasher, oven and hob

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Here's what I found:
PRODUCING COUNTRIES ZANUSSI
The country of assembly depends on the type of product:
Ukraine - front loading washing machines
Poland - washing machines, dishwashers, electric ovens
China - dishwashers, toasters, kettles, coffee makers, water heaters, vacuum cleaners, built-in microwave ovens
Turkey - hoods
Italy - built-in refrigerators and washing machines, hoods, gas hobs, gas and electric ovens
Romania - gas and electric stoves
UK - built-in microwave ovens

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there is a function of automatic dispensing of water. If there is not enough laundry, then the machine pours less water than in a full cycle. And the half wash is meaningless.

when I wash my son's windbreaker in Atlanta, water is the floor of the tank, I don't know how much less water it takes, but you can't compare it with AEG

I have an old lie without a direct drive, about 12 years old. New with direct 2 years. The new one is jumping in the same way, maybe more in the last months 3. It is jumping, already pulling out the hose from the drain hole. Although the floor is flat and there are silicone pads. I have both size 45.Maybe the full-size ones are quieter, I don't know. I took a direct drive because of a larger tank, and I also had a drying there. I'm very happy with the drying. Only it seems that at the very beginning, all the clothes were drier. But still glad to have it. True, there were no other dryers, I cannot compare. I have small children, plus a bad relationship with dust. The machine works on some days for 2-3 cycles - I have nowhere to dry so much bed linen and diapers. Hope it will last

I do not want to offend the domestic manufacturer, but Atlant would not even consider it. My sister suffers so much with this typewriter, as with that suitcase it is hard to carry and throw it away. The thing is that she does not wash her at all, things, especially old, light, that "before" washing, that "after", you will not see much difference. Plus, breakdowns also happen, and the car is only 2 years old. My Samsung is soon 12 years old, there were breakdowns three times, but the repair was penny, the master changed the rubber pipes, this is a sore spot for the Samsung, according to the master. He said that I was lucky with the machine, and if a breakdown happens, then it should be repaired further, it is not worth changing to a new one. Something like this, maybe I was just lucky and my sister was unlucky.

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Read it, it may be useful. For myself, at least I decided on the brands. However, we can say and confirmed their thoughts. Here are the reviews of the master about different brands of cars.

[SinichkaV]

SinichkaV, Valentina, very useful and informative information on washing machines. It's time for me to change the car too, I have Hotpoin-Ariston, I wanted Lg, but after the master's recall I will probably stop at my model.

exclusively electronic brains that are buggy

That's right, but the masters are old, not used to dealing with electronics, they don't want to retrain Everything the old fashioned way ... that's why it is advised to repair to the last. This reminds me of the story of changing tube TVs to semiconductor ones and then switching to TV computers. Then the masters also shouted that there is nothing better than TV "KVN" and "Leningrad"

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but I'll take AEG or Zanussi, Electrolux, there is still great comfort

Much more, in comparison it is like Maybach and Zhiguli "penny" I can compare ARDO and Lux