Washing machine: which one to buy

[Hairpin]

It seems to me that Veko is definitely not necessary, this firm does not inspire confidence.

Hairpin, how much do you need to meet?

Mom's Atlant still works flawlessly. Our ancient Vyatka also works ... If it breaks someday, I would buy an atlant (because of the cost). The eyelid dishwasher also only pleases, and this also automatically transfers a positive image to the washing machine .. And the price is attractive. ... Somehow it seems to me that if a cheap machine breaks down, it won't be too bad ... And if a dear one suddenly ...

[Hairpin]

Hairpin, how much do you need to meet?

Yes, I'm not so much in the amount as in the size ...
I got it like this:
1. The steepest narrow Bosch (40 cm) WLF 24271 (A / A / B), 15 programs - 11460;
2. The steepest narrow eyelid (super slim, 37 cm) WKB 51231 PTMA (A + / A / B), 20 programs - 8920;

Well, the number of programs is not very important for me ...

Somehow it seems to me that if a cheap machine breaks down, it won't be too bad ... And if a dear one suddenly ...

Maybe not too bad, the main thing is that the neighbors do not have to make repairs.
I don’t know, maybe my approach is wrong, but I’m still for good things, albeit more expensive. Better to dig in or take out on credit, but then don't know the problems. Or as an option - look for it at a discount.
For example, this is how we bought our AEG. The discount was 30% only for the fact that the top cover was not fixed, somewhere the fastening bolts were lost. Has been working for 10 years, moved twice, no problem. The mother-in-law also has AEG, only a narrow 45 cm.He has been plowing like a bee every day for 8 years.

I don’t know, maybe my approach is wrong, but I’m still for good things, albeit more expensive. Better to dig in or take out on credit, but then don't know the problems.

I totally agree. Therefore, I took the Bosch dishwasher. And then Veko advised two acquaintances, she looked ... And started to respect ...

Moreover, after I took PM Bosch, there were much more complaints about PM Bosch than on Veko, and PM Veko is half the price ...

So I'm not so much saving here as analyzing ...

Hairpin, when I chose a washing machine last year, my brain was boiling!
I will choose the model I like, read reviews about it on the forums, I will be upset, I will call the SC to clarify the statistics of breakdowns, and I have to part with it with tears. Shoveled a mountain of information, and all in snot (because I wanted completely different models from the beginning) I stopped at BOSH ...
Here's a story

And later they also bought a BOSCH dryer

Hairpin, and 44 cm - a lot? Bosch WLM 20440 OE (14,700 rubles), but with aqua stop

[Sonador]

Hairpin, and 44 cm - a lot? Bosch WLM 20440 OE (14,700 rubles), but with aqua stop

Oh, how interesting ... Why did my aqua-stop work yesterday? !!! I don't have it in the washer? !!! I'll come home, I'll write the stamp to my Zanussi ...

Sonador... um ... but in my models there is no entogo aquastop, right?

1. Bosch has it written - Multi-stage leakage protection system
3D-Aquaspar

2. Veko says - Overfill protection + Optiball system

I have Indesit with drying like a clock, without a single breakdown, plowed for 15 years. Now problems with working at low speeds have begun.
I'm also starting to look for a replacement. The craftsmen said that cars should be taken with a price of at least $ 500, cheaper - shit. It will work for a couple of years and die. I also lean towards Bosch, but I want to take it again with drying. They are more expensive than conventional ones, but they also work better.

I also have Indesit with drying, and it has also been working for 15 years. (t-t-t) I'm happy!

[Hairpin]

Hairpin, Bosch does not, here is his description in Vasco's Internet store:

I don’t know what the Optiball System is and how it differs from the aqua stop, maybe it’s the same thing, they just called it differently.

Optiball system - The Optiball system, hidden from view, excludes the ingress of detergent powder into the drain pipes, where it will still not be used for its intended purpose

Hairpin, and 44 cm - a lot? Bosch WLM 20440 OE (14,700 rubles), but with aqua stop

But she's A / A / C, and mine has A / A / B ...
X / X / X - washing / energy consumption / drying ...

That is, drying is losing ...

Hairpin, I bought myself a BOSCH WLX 24463OE 2 months ago in Vasco. ru is a great car, it works silently with a depth of 44 cm for 5.5 kg of linen, Boshik is also in the old apartment, but the model by number is different - it plows for a very long time. Look at a new car - you will not regret

Girls, what are you doing, what kind of washing machines Beko ?? Well, dishwashers, okay ... I also have Beko's dishwasher, like nothing, ugh ugh ugh ... but Beko's washing machine was covered after just 2 years of use (the bearing crashed to smithereens), they called the service, they change along with the forecastle, it's worth it , most likely, like PolBeko ... my husband and I spat and borrowed Samsung for 7 kg. In Moscow, the old Samsung has been working for 10 years, only the drain pump of 1 ton was changed. for 10 years ... so draw your own conclusions ... I strongly advise Beko's washing machines as a victim of this company :-))))))

[Hairpin]

Hairpin, there is another option:
!

Well, in general terms, there is not a single stone in the direction of Bosch ... Not that in dishwashers ... Bosch, so Bosch ... Now it remains to analyze the model ...

[Spire]

But she's A / A / C, and mine has A / A / B ...
X / X / X - washing / energy consumption /drying...
That is, drying is losing ...

Spire, drying or spinning?

Sorry, now I only hang on the "bread maker", because from a mobile modem.

I have Indesit with drying like a clock, without a single breakdown, plowed for 15 years. Now problems with working at low speeds have begun.

I also have a very ancient Indesite (without drying). Last year, he began to knock somehow unnaturally on the spin, an uncle came from the service in 40 minutes and changed the bearing for very little money and said that at least another 5 years would be enough, the rest of the insides said in almost perfect condition.

[Spire]

Spire, drying or spinning?

Spin! Sorry ...

"Ardo" has been working for me normally for 12 years now, without breakdowns. The sons of Samsung. The younger one shakes with terrible force during the spin, you have to hold it. They called the master, he said that this is a disease of almost all Samsung (weak shock absorbers), replacement will not work, in a month it will be the same. But "Electrolux" (unfortunately I don’t know the model) I liked very much, I used this car in a holiday home. And the quality of washing is excellent and works silently, and stands rooted to the spot during spinning. "Bosch" watched from her son's neighbor how it washes, I don’t know, but it doesn’t shake during spinning and works silently.

Girls, you only need to compare modern cars. Everything that has been done under any brand before and now is, as they say, two big differences. Most modern devices are not designed for long-term use. It has become unprofitable for manufacturers to make a large durability resource with such meager production costs in China.
And it becomes more and more difficult to buy normal things.

And more information from the craftsmen: It is cheaper to bring a bunch of spare parts into the country and assemble them on the spot without paying excise taxes and so on than to start a finished product. Therefore, even having decided on the model, you need to look for someone worth buying.

Girls, you only need to compare modern cars. Everything that has been done under any brand before and now is, as they say, two big differences. Most modern devices are not designed for long-term use. It has become unprofitable for manufacturers to make a large durability resource with such meager production costs in China.
And it becomes more and more difficult to buy normal things.

So I mean that it may make sense to extend the service life of the old proven technology.
Repair for little money, and buying a new one - again as lucky.

It's good if the repair is cheap, my old car repair cost half the cost of a new one.

It's good if the repair is cheap, my old car repair cost half the cost of a new one.

Yes, indeed, the repair cost more than 5 thousand.

[Hairpin]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All visitors to this topic in the last 24 hours have a great chance to throw Hairpin stones ...

Well, I came home ... It turns out that my Zanussi had a hole in it ... The plumbers cut the hose and connected it for 300 rubles ... The washer has nothing to do with it ...

Well ... Throw it ... I'm READY !!!

Dear girls.
saw Temka and decided to share my experience. I had an Ardo typewriter the same age as my son in 1997. birth. The cheapest at 500 rpm and 5 kg larger. She made a noise, trembled, jumped on a not very even floor, but washed. And I was happy with the wash. At the 13th year of life, the bearings flowed and completely worn out. The repair was very expensive and I bought a new SM.
I know that the less electricians, the better (there is nothing to break), once a clever man taught me. I bought SM Gorenya. The most simple, primitive. Large, 1000 rev., Declared 6-7 kg, class A. Do not take. Bad car. Jumps, rattles, makes noise, knocks, crawls away. Less roomy than my Ardo by 5 kg. Does not wash laundry well. Tears things up. Nothing good. I've always thought my Old Ardo was a bad car, but this one is much worse. Here in Temko they asked how it washes so badly, but like that. I wash the same things, the washing ones are also the same, I put the same amount of laundry in terms of volume and color compatibility, but wash worse. It is noticeable not immediately, but after several washes. And I can't do anything. And the powders have already begun to be changed to more expensive ones and the bleach does not help. And how many things she tore for me ..... In general, I have a great desire to change her. But it is very expensive. So you have to live with this.
By the way, Mom's Bosch is 40 cm. Excellent machine. Quiet (almost silent), washes well. And she is already 8 years old, and she is like new. But the assembly was native there - Germany. I wanted to raise money and buy a big Bosch, but I was told that the big ones in Germany do not collect and they differ in quality from the narrow ones for the worse. So I decided to buy my Gorenya budget option.

And here I was complaining that my 15-year-old woman started to junk, so I called the master, he looked. He says he needs to change the engine (800-1200 UAH), took 50 UAH and left to wait for our decision (buy a new one or repair this one). My husband came home from work and began to swear: "The master did not really look at anything, did not understand, took the money for the call and I want to work like that. I came, got smart, did nothing, but cut down the money." In general, a scandal.
I calmed down, had dinner and decided to figure it out myself. As a result, a couple of copper wires in the control box were broken in the machine, they were cut out, soldered, and the machine continues to operate (t-t-t).

Conclusion. Do not rush to change old cars, they were assembled much better than today's new ones. Look for a good master.

Exactly, exactly! They changed the bearings in my old lady for very little money, and the master said everything else that it was still in very good condition.

Dear girls.
saw Temka and decided to share my experience. I had an Ardo typewriter the same age as my son in 1997. birth. The cheapest at 500 rpm and 5 kg larger. She made a noise, trembled, jumped on a not very even floor, but washed. And I was happy with the wash. At the 13th year of life, the bearings flowed and completely worn out. The repair was very expensive and I bought a new SM.

I read, my heart is trembling and my lips are whispering a "washing prayer" about my typewriter, also Ardo, also born in 1997 ..
Recently, a case brought me together with a disinterested person repairing washing machines. And I asked him what, they say, this is the situation - the washing machine is years old, you never know .. To which he answered me: even if the repair costs 5 thousand, repair it. It's worth it. And he named many reasons that I will learn if I disassemble this machine myself
Sobsno, somehow he reassured me that it would not be necessary to make a choice again .. And we celebrate the arrival of washing machines every year - crazy .. And I was also very surprised: what happens that washing machines tear clothes ?? No, not so .. RIP THE CLOTHES ???

And I was also very surprised: does it happen that washing machines tear clothes? No, no ...RIP THE CLOTHES ???
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Yes Yes. It happens. That is, knitted items (T-shirts, nighties, etc.) become, as it were, moth-eaten. At first, a little bit in one or two places, and then more and more small holes become and they become larger. I've had this before with an old washer. There are favorite things that are worn to the holes. But not at once! After all, not only old, worn-out things disappear like that, but also quite new and even a six-month-old set of good cotton linen already noticed a hole on the sheet. So far one, while sewn up, but this is not the case!

I’m a blouse that I have been wearing for 12 years periodically washing .. Not a single hole ..
* fell on her face in front of the centrifuge, reads the "washing" prayer.

Girls, I see I'm not the only one with this problem.
My Indesite is 14 years old this year. Everything is mechanics.
Repaired 3 or 4 times. Twice I had to clean the board (120 UAH each) - the contacts on the board are oxidized from dampness and it "goes crazy", starts to do whatever it wants (but it is being treated), then, on the advice of the master, removed it away from dampness in the kitchen, now this is no problem.
Once a bearing burst, they also cured it for 300 UAH.
So, since the master is his own person, checked, he said, repair until it is being repaired, and not because this is my earnings, but because the newer the car is now, the less it will work. Recently, they have been produced in general with cast, non-replaceable units that are not repaired. Some knot flew, everything went to the dump. Is it necessary?
Well, this is from the series that great-grandmother's Soviet irons are still ironed, and modern ones - a maximum of a year or two.
Boski, of course, is a good office, I don’t argue, but we must not forget that the company's logo does not guarantee that its production will be of the same quality in China as in the country where this company has its homeland.
Therefore, I support that there is no need to rush to part with the old ladies, although sometimes the "young" look tempting.
But for the future, I was interested in the same master, on which model to choose, if suddenly ... - he said that today, relatively high-quality, both in service and in repair, "Electrolux" (though - expensive padlyuks).
And as for the fact that the cars tear, yes, - it happens - I've chewed two or three handkerchiefs so that I thought, some kind of rag hit the drum - I barely recognized it. This is not because the machine is to blame, but because the insolent mistress can do it with handles ... that ... a handkerchief and something. And small details - it is necessary to wash in a bag. And, if possible, do not overload the machine with linen. Then they are not pushed where it is not necessary, because their drum breaks when the fabric gets between it and the body.
And one more trick happens when in the drum - the holes on it are not perfectly polished in some places, and a tiny burr can do mean things on your favorite blouse.
Of course, I'm also already preparing, I'm looking for, (all the same, my already a pensioner, whatever one may say), but so far nothing has fallen on my soul ...
Well, I'm also spoiled by the fact that I have it under two waters (cold and cold), but you will find such hell! ..

his master, a proven person, said, repair until it is being repaired, and not because this is my earnings, but because the newer the car is now, the less it will work. Recently, they have been produced in general with cast, non-replaceable units that are not repaired. Some knot flew, everything went to the dump. Is it necessary?

We have one master

Girls, now it's my turn to cry ... my Indesit machine broke down at the age of 20. The foreman said that of course he would repair it, but it would cost half the cost of a new car. But since she had already completed her two terms, we decided that we needed to buy another one. I realized that I had to look in the direction of Bosch-Germany. Or Electrolux (I saw only Poland). So I get it? Oh, how I feel sorry for my girl. I'm waiting for advice.

I was strongly advised not to look in the direction of cars cheaper than 400-450 dollars. These are disposable units for a maximum of a couple of years. Go shopping, take a look - and at home google all the models you like for reviews - everything will be clear.

We have here a topic about HP "Is it worth overpaying for the brand", somehow so called. I have a similar story about the washing machine. After the cap. renovation in the kitchen-bath-toilet complex, the urgent question arose about replacing the washing machine, although the plans were not included. You understand, with tugriks strained, credit on the neck, plans to replace the refrigerator still born in the USSR, air conditioners in the rooms .... In general, "everything is like people have"
I ran through the shops, on the Internet ... my fell fucking an eye on the Atlant washer. As soon as they were not called names on the internet. And their price and characteristics are acceptable, and the promotion was at that time "Full warranty 3 years +2". I asked a representative of the plant through the Internet - "Is it a full guarantee?" We're smart. She also got him to deliver the model she wanted to the city. They looked at me in the store as an alien - how could I communicate with the plant. In general, I took it. I decided to work for 5 years with a full guarantee, and then I will change it. But nothing lasts so long as a temporary hut Erases my Atlas for the sixth year. There are no complaints about the quality of the wash or the work yet. Well, then - life will show how it will be.

[Ksusha]

Ksusha, just about, exactly. After many years of friendship with refrigerators of this brand, I also think about the same CM. While mine works, but if anything ...

When choosing a refrigerator, I also seriously considered Atlas. Since only they had the configuration I was interested in. And the layout is sharpened for our my Soviet habits of storage in pots, bottles ... The rest, in my opinion, are sharpened under boxes with store semi-finished products
At the last moment, I found on the internet what I wanted, though more of a name, and a local company, a cat. she brought it to me.There, as they say - how the stars will rise

Regarding the Atlanteans. (though not CM, but refrigerators)
I have the sixth year of my Atlant refrigerator, I am very satisfied. But my sister's on December 31, 2011. the refrigerator has broken. And all the holidays she chose her refrigerator. I went shopping, felt them, smelled and examined them. Her verdict is that the Atlant refrigerator is now completely different from what it was several years ago. Bad plastic, thin and already lagging rubber bands, etc. I can't say anything about CM Atlant. I don't know, but there is reason to think. Sorry to write about the CM topic, but I wrote about the Atlanta topic discussed above. If not there, then delete or transfer.

[Andreevna]

Girls, now it's my turn to cry ... my Indesit machine broke down at the age of 20. The foreman said that of course he would repair it, but it would cost half the cost of a new car. But since she had already completed her two terms, we decided that we needed to buy another one. I realized that I had to look in the direction of Bosch-Germany. Or Electrolux (I saw only Poland). So I get it? Oh, how I feel sorry for my girl. I'm waiting for advice.

Andreevna, I was also recommended by the master to pay attention to Electrolux. He said that they are the least of all under repair. Well, in the sense that there are rarely serious defects and the quality of the assembly itself is better than in well-promoted brands of a similar price category.

I was probably, as always, late. But still I will answer. I have Samsung for about 8 years. It has numbers 1015J, in front of which SENSOR COMPACT is written (it is 45 cm deep). I don’t know which shoulder to spit over, but we have never encountered the service. And with a problem - once: the machine stopped draining water. I immediately panic. While I was screaming and worried, my husband looked at the instructions, took off the decorative panel below, substituted some kind of flat container, turned something slightly and carefully poured the water in several steps. Then he put his hand in there, pulled out the sock that got there, it was not known how, put the panel in place and said: turn on the car. AND EVERYTHING. The car pours water quite noisily, jumps at times during push-ups, but otherwise. It's hard for me to judge the quality of the wash.It suits me, there is nothing to compare with - the first machine.

And, the spinning from it is 1000 rpm (max.). At max. I almost don't squeeze the speed, I mainly use 600 rpm.

Hey. I'm new here. Just last week, my 9-year-old Samsugn stopped draining the water. To choose a new one, I started reading this topic and came across Lydia's message. I told my husband that people cope with the problem of "water" "at once"! He read the instructions, unscrewed the filter, took out a handful of coins and a bunch of cat hair (fortunately, we have 2 cats) and the washer is working again!

My dreams of a new car, of course, went to pieces, but the family budget did not suffer. Thank you girls, thank you Lydia.

On the subject: I have a model S 821 compact 9 years old (bought for the birth of an older child). Broke down 1 time and that is our fault. She began to make a wild noise when she washes, it turned out that a "bone" from the top of the leotard fell between the drum and the body. You know, such an iron arc. The master came, took it out, everything began to work normally. And the second breakdown a week ago, which we dealt with on our own.

From complaints, it makes a lot of noise during spinning and jumps, BUT she survived 3 moves!

P.S. How many more will work, we'll see!

Who knows Samsung advertising about bubbles - is it advertising or is it a worthwhile feature?

Anh, and this is what, about bubbles, I have not heard - like a jacuzzi and washing, two in one?

[Eco Bubble technology transforms water and detergent into a gentle foam before washing, which then penetrates the fabric and literally absorbs all dirt.]

Yes, now there is a sea of ​​them, so I opened any one in our MVideo

"Washing machine Standard Samsung WF1124ZAC is economical, as evidenced by all the main parameters. Eco Bubble technology transforms water and detergent into a gentle foam before washing, which then penetrates the fabric and literally absorbs all dirt.

After rinsing, the laundry does not contain any dirt or detergent residues. This method allows you to wash even in cold water (15 degrees) and saves up to 70% of electricity. In addition, a drum with a capacity of up to 12 kg of linen makes it possible to wash at once all accumulated items or bulky blankets, covers from upholstered furniture, etc.

An inverter motor and drum rotation control system make the Samsung WF1124ZAC virtually silent. Thanks to the ceramic coating, no scale builds up on the heating element of the machine. "

I thought maybe someone already has this function

It seems to me this is just another publicity stunt, they no longer know what to think of. (Kind of like a Colgate fable. Chemists are mocked and for those who graduated only three grades.) Well, that's my opinion.

[Eco Bubble technology transforms water and detergent into a gentle foam before washing, which then penetrates the fabric and literally absorbs all dirt.]

yes now there is a sea of ​​them, so I opened any one in our MVideo

"Washing machine Standard Samsung WF1124ZAC is economical, as evidenced by all the main parameters. Eco Bubble technology transforms water and detergent into a gentle foam before washing, which then penetrates the fabric and literally absorbs all dirt.

After rinsing, the laundry does not contain any dirt or detergent residues. This method allows you to wash even in cold water (15 degrees) and saves up to 70% of electricity. In addition, a drum with a capacity of up to 12 kg of linen makes it possible to wash at once all accumulated items or bulky blankets, covers from upholstered furniture, etc.

The inverter motor and drum rotation control system make the Samsung WF1124ZAC virtually silent. Thanks to the ceramic coating, no scale builds up on the heating element of the machine. "

I thought maybe someone already has this function

Has, has !!!!
I have a CM with the same function, Daewoo DWF-7089P, it is 7 kilograms, it is already 15 years old. This technology has existed for a very long time, my first Korean SM was semi-automatic, but also air-bubble (Eco Bubble technology). This technology uses the effect of covetation (cold boiling) - air bubbles saturated with oxygen knock out biological contaminants from the fabric without damaging the fabric itself - the Koreans explained this to us in the early 90s. In such machines, you can wash silk and blankets and suits.My SM also has a dry-cleaning function, and a special dry-cleaning agent came to it (we are now doing it ourselves). Saving electricity, of course, is, and very large, I wash everything only with cold water, since at low temperatures organic pollution dissolves much better, and the fabric is not damaged. The linen does not turn yellow. In hot water, organics are brewed. In Asia - China, Korea, Japan - all SMs with this technology - there it is an ecological norm. So, I know for sure that this is not a publicity stunt.

I would also like to talk about air bubble machines. They have another advantage! They wrinkle the laundry less, precisely because of this technology, (Eco Bubble). I rarely use the iron, I don't iron bed linen and T-shirts at all, I take them out of the car, smooth them out with my palms and hang them on the hangers, and the linen on the rope, already folded, is slightly damp from the machine, and then from the rope straight into the closet. Here's another electricity savings. The laundry looks like ironed. And in general - if you are thinking about buying a washing machine - no matter what kind of company it will be, the main thing is to see that the bubble generator is indicated in the technical description. This is the most important thing in modern washing technology, it allows you to wash with high quality with cold water, wash stains, not spoil the fabric, save electricity and water. My CM consumes 380 watts, and the main wash cycle is 40 minutes, fast 15 minutes, with soaking, 80 minutes. In general, I think that you only need to wash with cold water - you wash, not cook.

I would also like to talk about air bubble machines. They have another advantage! They wrinkle the laundry less, precisely because of this technology, (Eco Bubble). I rarely use the iron, I don’t iron bed linen and T-shirts at all, I take them out of the car, iron them with my palms and hang them on the hangers, and the linen on the rope, already folded, is slightly damp from the machine, and then from the rope straight into the closet. Here's another electricity savings. The laundry looks like ironed.

Even I don’t understand how bubbles affect less creasing of laundry?
After all, linen is mostly wrinkled during the SPIN. Or would you say that it squeezes out using the same technology? .. Well, washing, that's okay, you can believe that the increase in the cost of this innovation is proportional to the improvement in the quality of washing in relation to the usual, but spinning ?! How?
As a matter of fact, I hardly iron the linen after washing, for this I just need to get it out wet and hang it evenly ... I don't think this is news for anyone.

It wrinkles less, it is during washing, spinning - the same centrifuge as everyone else. Why the rise in cost? My SM, oddly enough, was one of the cheapest of its class at that time. It cost $ 268. Now, of course, there are no such prices, but even for cuckoos, you can see what a big boost we have on Korean goods. I even thought that if my CM breaks down, I will order in Korea, because 2-3 years ago we did not have air-bubble machines at all, they were no longer supplied. Our consumer, just like you, did not understand them. Thank God they appeared again, which makes me very happy, but I think I'm not alone.