Washing machine: which one to buy

[Prus - 2]

Prus - 2, Lyuba, I have an Electrolux PerfectCare 700 EW7WR468W tumble dryer. I bought it six months ago, while I'm happy with everything. I use drying all the time. I washed my down-padded coat, I was very pleased with the quality of washing and drying, took out the coat like new, the fluff did not stray into a lump. I really like the non-stop program and the freshness of the steam. The first program lasts only 1 hour - washing and drying, but things should be no more than 1 kg. The second - a maximum of 25 minutes, steam treatment of not very dirty clothes, removes odors well.

[Cvetaal]

Cvetaal, Svetochka, Thank you! It turns out that the pairs function is good! Do you have 2 separate cars? Or all in one? I studied the topic for a long time on the Trunk - I came to the conclusion that I needed two. Moreover, we have made a separate room for the laundry.

[Lyuba]

Lyuba, this is one car. 2 in 1 ))

[Dunyaz]

Dunyaz, Thank you.
I bought myself such an assistant
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[Alyona]

Alyona, I have such Erases well. Don't be intimidated by the length of the wash. If there is not enough laundry, the machine will adjust the time downward.

Good day. Happy Holidays everyone
someone can share info about my choice 🔗 such diverse reviews ...

[Anchic]

Anchic, I just can't get used to this car. The synthetics program lasts at least 1.5 hours, I thought it was gentle; I don't like the outerwear program either ((I have to dodge). The persistent feeling that the former Zanussi washing machine, which at the time of the breakdown was 14 years old, is an ideal machine both in terms of the quality of programs and the quality of washing
What program do you wash jackets, tulle?

[Lenusya]

Lenusya, on synthetics. Why don't you like 1.5 hours? I don’t like shorter programs, what can be removed there in 20 minutes? Well, out of 1.5 hours, almost an hour is rinsing. I also usually add rinses, so I get a 2 hour cycle. And the gentle program is wool / hand wash.

So I say that I can't get used to it. In my previous machine, the gentle and wool were separately and washed in different ways. And, of course, I use the wool and delicate wash programs. I like the drum cleaning program. Conveniently, the main Cotton adjusts to the weight of the laundry. I almost forgot about my favorite “easy ironing” function

Do you have 2 separate cars? Or all in one?

Lyuba, this is one car. As always happens, my washing machine suddenly broke down, without hesitation, I bought this one, although I always believed that there should be two cars, and there is a place. I read the topic, reviews of Lena-Tim, my son had a similar car and ordered

Quote: Zakharovna from Yesterday at 13:19
ews 1046, they probably don't do it anymore

And mine. I hope that it will serve us for a long time.

I, too, 14 years old, wash every day, "wipe" three children, on my hands - not a single thing, I can't. But it looks like it will soon have to be changed, so I'm looking closely.

[Leila]

Leila, I also look closely. I have an older car, Cap. repair was. I was looking for a replacement just in case, but the result is not happy.

someone can share info about my choice

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A month ago, I replaced my Electrolux ews 1046 car, which has faithfully served 15 years on the LG F1096ND3. The reason for the replacement was the noise of the bearing, the replacement cost of which was indicated to me at a third of the new LG car. Therefore, I did not dare to repair: when disassembling and replacing the bearing, it turns out that something else will have to be changed and the cost of repairs will increase to half the cost of a new machine.I suspect that in terms of the quality of performance, such machines that serve for 15 years are no longer made. I will say right away that the new machine washes with less noise. But this is in comparison with the noise that the electrolux has been making lately. What was the noise level of the new electrolux, I cannot say. What was unusual about the new LG car was the intake of water - a series of short injections that create water hammer in the pipeline. After installing the dampers, water hammer when filling the tank with water ceased to bother my hearing. In general, my wife and I are happy with our new car.

[book555]

book555, why did you choose this particular car? What was important for you when choosing?

For me, the cost and the number of years that manufacturers make the same model were important. I don't believe in the quality of the new models. Naturally, buying any thing is a lottery - lucky / unlucky. Today, after a month of operating a new car, I am quite happy with my choice. Of course, there will also be such a person, or maybe more than one, who will say that the model of the car that I am satisfied with is complete rubbish and such a car is by no means worth buying. All markers are different in taste and color

We changed the sink for a special flat "above the washing machine" (Sink above the washing machine), and below it a standard front loading washer.
For the child, Ikeev's plastic stool is used, since the sink is fixed a little high. It is convenient to use.

Thank you!

[Anna]

AnnaThank you very much for your feedback! how long have you had it?
P.S. Haven't looked here for a long time. apartment after renovation put in order

A persistent feeling that the former Zanussi washing machine, which at the time of the breakdown was 14 years old, is an ideal machine both in terms of the quality of programs and the quality of washing

This feeling is not only you! All cars made before were better. Therefore, many questions arise when buying a new one. I would like to serve not a year or two for such money, but at least 5-7. Well, I washed it well.

[Alyona]

Alyona, I have it exactly one year. As far as I understand, you should have a machine with a fixed jamb - for me it turns off when you lightly touch the shutdown button. It seems that yours should not turn off like that.
Well, we got ours with her marriage for some reason, the belt stretches very quickly and she starts to whistle. The first time whistled two months after the purchase. Gradually, the whistle became stable and manifested itself when turning the hand. We changed the belt under warranty at the end of May. The whistle went away for several months. In October, it began to whistle again occasionally. And on November 5, the guarantee ended. They called the foreman - the belt had already stretched for several cm. The foreman changed the belt and pulley. Now, if anything, all the repairs are at our expense. But the foreman said that replacing the pulley might help. And there figs knows.

Now, if anything, all repairs are at our expense. But the master said that replacing the pulley might help. And there fig knows

Sadness of course. And did not you look, according to the law, if 2 times repair during the warranty period, you can not return it or change it for another? I have not worked in trade for a long time, I do not know what laws are now. But I know that my son changed 3 !!! times IPHONE just because the camera moved a couple of mm !!!. And then they returned the money for him and he bought himself another model.

And did not you look, according to the law, if 2 times repair during the warranty period, you can not return it or change it for another?

No, I didn't look. Hopefully replacing the pulley will help.

Now, if anything, all repairs are at our expense

Is not a fact. If the defect is manufacturing, the seller is responsible for it for TWO years, if the warranty is less than two years.

5. In cases where the warranty period provided for by the contract is less than two years and the defects of the goods are discovered by the consumer after the expiration of the guarantee period, but within two years, the consumer has the right to present the seller (manufacturer) the requirements provided for in Article 18 of this Law, if he proves that the defects the goods arose before their transfer to the consumer or for reasons that arose up to this moment.

Six months ago, we changed the old Electrolux, which washed just fine and quickly, but the motor flew and the replacement became, as it were, not justified, to Electrolux EW8F3R28S PerfectCare 800 8 kg 1200 rpm 547 mm.The choice was due to an already familiar company, European assembly and, most importantly, the presence of a quick wash for 14 minutes (in all other brands, a short wash was either absent, or some other parameters did not fit).
Now I really regret that I decided to buy a new model and not try to repair the old one.
In short, it just infuriates me that some washing machine knows better than me how long and with what intensity to wash my clothes. A lot of things have been spoiled in six months. Washing for 14 minutes is compensated by the merciless tossing of things in the drum and their wear and tear as a result. If earlier I could wash all my things on a delicate wash for 14 minutes, now I don't have this opportunity. I wash everything on silk for 30 minutes, which is also long enough, in my opinion, for delicate fabrics. Wool lasts 1 hour, fine fabric program 1 hour 20 minutes! And these programs are not shortened in principle. The time manager can only speed up cotton and synthetics from as much as 4 hours. I honestly don't understand that you can wash for 4 hours.
Colored knitwear is peeled off, silk creeps in, blankets on the special blanket mode are thinned and coughing, if you accidentally threw a woolen thing to wash on silk mode - things are kapets, one thing can be squeezed out the third time.
The only thing is that I now wash white cotton without bleach, it washes well, apparently due to aggressive washing. Well, she looks prettier than the old one. But these two pluses are negligible compared to the minuses.

I honestly don't understand that you can wash for 4 hours.

Four hours is not the limit, when I was looking for myself, I came across copies with modes more than five hours per wash cycle. Modern washing machines have some kind of mess with modes, information about the duration and intensity cannot be found, and managers in stores do not know anything. A well-known chain store came across one "special" who did not know where it was in his department and what a top-loading machine looked like ... I showed him where he could look at them, but did not ask any more.
Before buying, I went online for specials. sites, and if not for the information from there, then it would not have occurred to me to pay attention to the duration and intensity of washing modern machines. For some reason, I thought that new ones cannot wash no worse than my ancient BrandT. So I would have bought without looking, and would have received a "surprise".
Therefore, the acquisition was stretched out - first I looked for information about the model on the Internet, then I went to the store to look and touch.

Four hours is not the limit, when I was looking for myself, I came across copies with modes more than five hours per wash cycle. Modern washing machines have some kind of mess with modes, information about the duration and intensity cannot be found, and managers in stores do not know anything.

Exactly! And this is all under the slogan of taking care of things! It seems that engineers have no idea in practice what washing different things is.
Most of the managers are very bad. And not only in the part of washing machines.

So I would have bought without looking, and would have received a "surprise".
Therefore, the acquisition was stretched out - first I looked for information about the model on the Internet, then I went to the store to look and touch.

We also chose for a long time, walked around, phoned a lot of companies, looking for a delicate wash on a short program. According to the characteristics, it was she who best suited us, but in reality we got this here ...

[Yoyo]

Yoyo, it is quite possible that the matter is also in the quality of the linen, therefore such wear and tear. In general, I do not understand this program in 14 minutes, washing there for 3 minutes, rinsing twice in total. If you do not put another rinse on, then maybe the laundry also suffers from the remains of the powder? In terms of the duration of the programs, the new Electrolux does not differ much from the old Ariston, if we take the second values ​​of the Time Manager. For washing colored and black linen, I liked the Denim program, I don't know if your model has it, there is more water at the washing stage and the drum pauses between revolutions, yes, because of this, it washes more, but more gently.

[Yoyo]

Yoyo, it is quite possible that the matter is also in the quality of the linen, therefore such wear and tear. In general, I do not understand this program in 14 minutes, washing there for 3 minutes, rinsing twice in total. If you do not put another rinse on, then maybe the laundry also suffers from the remains of the powder? In terms of the duration of the programs, the new Electrolux does not differ much from the old Ariston, if we take the second values ​​of the Time Manager. For washing colored and black linen, I liked the Denim program, I don't know if your model has it, there is more water at the washing stage and the drum pauses between revolutions, yes, because of this, it washes more, but more gently.

What do you mean by the quality of the laundry? In my clothes, mainly silk, knitwear, wool. Well, men have shirts, trousers, children's clothes. New and not so much, but in an old machine I could wash my things, any, regardless of composition, on one single program - delicate wash for 15 minutes, and everything was fine with them. In the new washing machine, I have already tried everything that fits, more or less - it is still wearing out. She erases more aggressively, I think.
The additional rinse did not really start before, now too. I wash my things with liquid special means. I don't think it's the powder or the things.

For washing colored and black linen, I liked the Denim program, I don't know if your model has it, there is more water at the washing stage and the drum pauses between revolutions, yes, because of this, it washes more, but more gently.

Tomorrow I'll try denim for my husband's clothes. I washed him and the baby on thin fabrics.

What do you mean by the quality of the laundry

I mean the quality of the fabrics from which linen is now sewn, the threads with which they sew. The quality has dropped dramatically.
For silk, wool, delicate knitwear, use the Wool program. Certainly nothing will spoil there: there is a lot of water, the linen flounders below, does not even spin. She, of course, not 15 minutes, but the linen is comfortable.
There are only two rinses on the 15 minute program, how can this be enough for a rinse?

I mean the quality of the fabrics from which linen is now sewn, the threads with which they are sewn. The quality has dropped dramatically.

The same things as with the old washer. No, it's not about things at all.

For silk, wool, delicate knitwear, use the Wool program.

Hour! A whole hour of time versus 15 minutes (((In theory, silk should not differ much from wool, the same hand wash, only a shorter cycle. I wash every evening after work, I will end up with more than three hours for washing. on time she does not help me at all.

There are only two rinses on the 15 minute program, how can this be enough for a rinse?

In a new one, after unsuccessful experiments, I do not use this cycle, so I can not say anything. In the old, for delicate thin fabrics, such rinsing was quite enough.

No, it's not about things at all.

That's exactly what in things, just recently a shirt could serve faithfully for a couple of years, but now a shirt bought six months ago can break not at the seam, but in unexpected places, moreover, I did not carry sacks of potatoes and did not work in a hot workshop
Threat, I really don't know what can be washed there for 15 minutes, sweat-soaked men's T-shirts and socks, an auto mechanic's work uniform, vague doubts torment me

That's exactly what in things, until recently, a shirt could serve faithfully for a couple of years, but now a shirt bought six months ago can break not at the seam but in unexpected places, moreover, I did not carry sacks of potatoes and did not work in a hot workshop

A week passed between the breakdown of the old machine and the purchase of a new one, so I can quite appreciate the quality of the washing of those things that were bought shortly before the breakdown. These are not worn out things that have worn out and worn out from time to time. And I'm not talking about one unit, but about all things at once.

Threat, I really don't know what can be washed there for 15 minutes, sweat-soaked men's T-shirts and socks, an auto mechanic's work uniform, vague doubts torment me

In addition to auto mechanics, there are other men's, in particular, professions, in which you are all day in a suit and shirt, and in general it is not necessary to cover the same socks until you stand. Therefore, some items of men's wardrobe are quite enough just such a wash.
The purpose of my post was (in addition to pouring out my soul about painful things) to express an opinion about this model of a washing machine, which may be useful for those whose washing requirements are similar to mine - quickly and delicately, for whom the main component of the wardrobe is thin fabrics, wool, silk, knitwear, etc., who wash several loads every night, because the thing is put on once and then washed.
For those whose wardrobe consists mainly of cotton fabrics, dense, not prone to deformation, or a lifestyle, work suggests that things can be heavily soiled, while there is more time for washing than mine, or washing is not done every evening , this machine will fit perfectly.
Again, I repeat, if it went unnoticed, for bed linen, home clothes and other wear-resistant things, I can run it without additional agents such as bleach, because it washes aggressively and, accordingly, for this type of things with high quality! But for me, the priority now is to wash office clothes, rather than any other things.

For washing colored and black linen, I liked the Denim program, I don't know if your model has it, there is more water at the washing stage and the drum pauses between revolutions, yes, because of this, it washes more, but more gently.

Do you also have denim for 4 hours and not a minute less? I have so and this is unrealistic a lot. I can only do one run like this every evening (((

Exactly what is in things, until recently a shirt could serve faithfully for a couple of years, but now a shirt bought six months ago can break not at the seam but in unexpected places,

Not always in things. When a thing felt great in the old car, and there was a hole in the new one, it makes you think. that the machine is to blame.
I had two Brandt washing machines, the modes are convenient, they washed well. There were no questions for the first, but when we bought the second, it started - here a hole, then a puff, I checked the drum, and I could not find where it clings. As a result, I bought nets and washed machines in them for the rest of my life.
Now the third one does not tear, there are no leads. So very often it's just the car ....: girl_pardon
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Threat, I really don't know what can be washed there for 15 minutes, sweat-soaked men's T-shirts and socks, the work uniform of an auto mechanic

! 5 minute wash is not for this, it is used for almost clean things - once put on a shirt in the office or guests ... And for auto mechanics there are other modes ... My car has a 20 minute program, very convenient if you need just to refresh the thing, then why drive the car for an hour and a half.

[Yoyo]

Yoyo, my washing machine has an office wear program, the program lasts 30 minutes.
I understand your desire for a quick wash, I live in a hot climate and often a refreshing quick wash is simply necessary for things.
But I really can't imagine how the car can fit into the program in 15 minutes: pour water, heat it up, wash it so that the washing medium (a capsule, for example) has time to dissolve and activate, rinse it, squeeze it out. At what speed do you need to do everything?

Do you also have denim for 4 hours and not a minute less? I have so and this is unrealistic a lot. I can only do one run like this every evening (((

And there is no way to cut? My car has the longest mode - 1h. 50 minutes, and that is the opportunity to cut it by half an hour. Everything is perfectly washed. What is it there to wash for 4 hours ???

! 5 minute wash is not for this, it is used for almost clean things - once put on a shirt in the office or guests ... And for auto mechanics there are other modes ... My car has a 20 minute program, very convenient if you need just to refresh the thing, then why drive the car for an hour and a half.

I wanted to kiss you! Exactly!

And there is no way to cut? My car has the longest mode - 1h. 50 minutes, and that is the opportunity to cut it by half an hour. Everything is perfectly washed. What is it there to wash for 4 hours ???

No (((in my time manager is compatible only with cotton and synthetics modes. I don't know, maybe I washed my jeans my whole life ...

Yoyo, my washing machine has an office wear program, the program lasts 30 minutes.

What model?

I understand your desire for a quick wash, I live in a hot climate and often a refreshing quick wash is simply necessary for things.

But I really can't imagine how the car can fit into the program in 15 minutes: pour water, heat it up, wash it so that the washing medium (a capsule, for example) has time to dissolve and activate, rinse it, squeeze it out. At what speed do you need to do everything?

The thing does not have time to get dirty in order to wash it with effort or for a long time, at the same time, I cannot not wash it, because it already turns out, in my opinion, stale, wrinkled in a day. Well, how to wash silk with your hands - chat for a couple of minutes in a basin in cold water, rinse and squeeze lightly. I don't need anything more from the washer, because as it turned out, I need just less from the washer

[Yoyo]

Yoyo,

Do you also have denim for 4 hours and not a minute less? I have so and this is unrealistic a lot. I can only run one run like this every evening (((

No. My Denim lasts 1:50. It cannot be shortened, yes, but not 4 hours! She washes very carefully: a lot of water, turns the drum with pauses, more rinses. As I understand it, this program is designed for washing heavily fading items. I have Electrolux 6 models (the first digit is 6).

But I really can't imagine how the car can fit into the program in 15 minutes: pour water, heat it up, wash it so that the washing medium (a capsule, for example) has time to dissolve and activate, rinse it, squeeze it out. At what speed do you need to do everything?

The water heats up only to 30 degrees, if it has time, I also doubt that it will have time to heat up, except in summer, when it is not initially ice-cold. Use only liquid product. The washing phase lasts 3 minutes. Well, and two rinses, I was afraid that in general there would be only one, but no, two. I must say that such a fast program is very often a mandatory requirement for many who choose washing machines. As far as I read the ixbt forum, I was so surprised at this. When asked what you wash on it, they answer: new things after the store, office things after a day of wearing.

When a thing felt great in the old car, but there was a hole in the new one, then this is suggestive. that the machine is to blame.

Alas, a shirt that breaks within a year, jersey after a week becomes covered with spools, light bulbs dying one after another, thank God I handed over a 2-year guarantee to the store, household appliances dying out on the second day after the end of the warranty, these are all links of one chain And the laundry has nothing to do with

My Denim lasts 1:50. It cannot be shortened, yes, but not 4 hours! She washes very carefully: a lot of water, turns the drum with pauses, more rinses. As I understand it, this program is designed for washing heavily fading items. I have an Electrolux 6 models (the first digit is 6)

Maybe I have some kind of defective washing machine? (((

When asked what do you wash on it, they answer: new things after the store, office things after a day of wearing

And there is.

Alas, a shirt that breaks within a year, jersey after a week becomes covered with spools, light bulbs dying one after another, thank God I handed over a 2-year guarantee to the store, household appliances dying out on the second day after the end of the warranty, these are all links of one chain And the laundry has nothing to do with

In other words, all our clothes, except for cotton, in an organized and massive manner announced a note of protest to us about six months ago, and it just coincided with the change of the washing machine.

[Yoyo]

Yoyo,

Maybe I have some kind of defective washing machine? (((

I do not know. Maybe ask a question on the official Electrolux website.
I have the same arrangement of programs on the panel, only in your UltraWash program, and I have Sport. And what is this program - UltraWash?

I also noticed better washing in comparison with the old Ariston, I began to use even less detergents, but I reduced it due to the fact that the machine whips up the foam strongly, even from just water it manages to form foam.

I do not know. Maybe ask a question on the official Electrolux website.

Yes, I will call.

And what is this program - UltraWash

From the instructions: "Cotton items. The intensive program provides a good washing result in a short time." During washing, it turns the drum very quickly and for a long time, a lot of foam is whipped, due to this it knocks out dirt well. And all, the infection, lasts 1 hour Reduced time where it was possible and not to reduce))) Convenient just for heavily contaminated, but resistant to deformation things.
Washed on blankets and jackets in yours? My blankets don't like their program, now I'm afraid to wash jackets on jackets)))
And have you ever noticed that if there is one thing in the drum, then the spinning does not happen? In mine, it often happens, you have to additionally squeeze.

[Yoyo]

Yoyo
I haven't washed my Jackets yet. On Blankets I washed a blanket, a blanket on a sofa and soft toys. It seemed a little water, you need to either top up or use another program. My favorite programs are Synthetics, Denim and Delicates.
Once it happened that the machine refused to wring out one sweater. The time just stalled for 4 minutes before the end of the program and was spinning, trying to get out for the spin. I unplugged, added a dry towel and set the spin again. These machines have protection against imbalance, if they cannot properly lay out the laundry, so as not to damage themselves, they will not squeeze.

On Blankets I washed a blanket, a blanket on a sofa and soft toys. It seemed a little water, you need to either top up or use another program.

I do not see water at all in this mode. I have quilted double quilts, with dense cotton at the top and a layer of padding polyester, one takes up the whole drum, just spinning wet.

These machines have protection against imbalance, if they cannot properly lay out the laundry, so as not to damage themselves, they will not squeeze.

Phew, how many dances and tambourines with her, it turns out. She needs to save up laundry so that she can squeeze it out normally, because one towel cannot be squeezed out.

[Yoyo]

Yoyo, I was thinking ... the more water, the less aggressive the wash. So maybe you need to manually add water on the Quick 14 minute program? Only pour when the machine fills in water, because if you pour it in when loading the laundry before turning it on, the machine will drain this water, because each program starts with the operation of the pump.

[Dunyaz]

Dunyaz, Thank you.
I bought myself such an assistant
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Alyona!
How is the assistant?
What can you say about work?

So maybe you need to manually add water on the Quick 14 minute program? Only pour when the machine is pouring water

I mean, open the tray and pour? Nothing will spill there? I have little idea of ​​the mechanics of the process, it seems to me that water also enters the tray when pouring water. Or not?

[Yoyo]

Yoyo, Yes exactly. Nothing will be spilled. Some convenient container with a spout. Pour in hot water, because in three minutes the machine itself will not heat up, especially a large volume of water.

YoyoWhy don't you wash your clothes, your baby clothes, and your husband's? Because of the color? If so, now there are magnetic napkins, they allow you to wash multi-colored laundry together without painting over. Solve the problem of imbalance during spinning, and you will save time, which was spent on several washes per evening. The Thin fabrics program is quite suitable for your delicate items, and not very dirty others.

Nothing will be spilled. Some convenient container with a spout. Pour in hot water, because in three minutes the machine itself will not heat up, especially a large volume of water.

Thank you! I will experiment.

Why don't you wash your clothes, your baby clothes, and your husband's? Is it because of the color?

Not because of the color. Your things are only on silk, because everything is delicate, even cotton. I wash my husband and child on thin fabrics, but separately, because I don't want to wash baby socks with adult socks))) Somewhere I understand, of course, that all this settles on the drum and the door, and there is no special sense in my separation, but there is a psychological barrier does not allow it to be done.

the psychological barrier prevents you from doing this

I just understand this, I myself first stretch the socks in the basin.

Nothing will be spilled. Some convenient container with a spout

In my old washing machine, Indesit, the temperature controller broke down, water was poured in, carried out a full wash cycle, but the water did not heat up.
I washed in it for a long time, pouring hot water from the tap through the hose. The tap for the water intake was closed, she tried to get water, and at that time I forcibly poured water into the powder compartment with a hose. She didn't have much brains (but washed well), so the washer calmly "digested" such a substitution and did its job. After she started washing, I turned on the tap so she could draw water for rinsing.

P.S. I didn't feel sorry for her, the plans were to buy a new one, so I treated her so unceremoniously.

[Zebra]

Zebra, in the same way I washed in the old Ariston, when the ten refused, while choosing a new one. Turned off the heating completely, poured hot water manually. I didn't get a hose, the thing I needed is still ...