Margit
Quote: Tinka_tinka

Equalization of temperatures is necessary, especially when half of the food is from the refrigerator .. and this leveling is by no means unnerving ...
I always put all the food in the bakery warm, but the alignment is still maximum. If I pre-cool the chamber of the bread maker with frozen products, then the vyvnivanie takes place from 30 to 1 hour. This is already acceptable. Recently, with the onset of warm days, the bread-baking machine was taken out on the veranda, there is a temperature of 18 *, but the oven still levels out for more than 2 hours. Well, what are you going to do with her! The whole family really likes bread baked in cotton, so I get out as best I can.
Rina
Quote: Margit

I always put all the food in the bakery warm, but the alignment is still maximum.
Leveling - = this is not so much bringing the products to the same temperature (although this is also an important point), as calculating the optimal proofing time for the dough under specific conditions (the warmer, the shorter this time) and the precisely known end time of the program (not after 2.5-3 hours , but exactly after 4 hours).
Cubic
I used to reduce the leveling time very simply (this is if there is no heat outside ..) before starting work, I just opened the window in the kitchen, for 10 minutes ... now I don’t do this, somehow it stopped worrying me
Margit
Quote: Cubic

I used to reduce the leveling time very simply (this is if there is no heat outside ..) before starting work, I just opened the window in the kitchen, for 10 minutes ... now I don’t do this, somehow it stopped worrying me
The fact is that I bake bread with one sourdough, and from prolonged leveling, I noticed that the bread turns out sour than usual. Although I try to put the leaven fresh, not fermented, literally an hour after feeding. If you bake bread with yeast, then you really shouldn't worry.
agata116
Quote: lana7386

They are silent and Lenok_cn and agata116

Girls, I am not silent, I just, I have nothing to say, my Panasik returned from repair, but there is no sense in this, the breakdown, as it was and remained, it works every other time, the impressions of the service "I'm in shock", it says little, I don't like to cry, that's why I didn't write.
I am very glad and satisfied that I bought the second HP Moulinex 5004, I am very pleased with it, and as my family is happy, the baguettes cannot be conveyed in words.

How to say "One head is good, but two are even better" so, in "1 HP is a class, and 2 is a super-duper class" (although one works every other time), but still on Easter I made 2 batches 0.5 kg each. flour, in both HPs at once, but, according to different recipes, the result is simply excellent, I have never been able to get such deliciousness, THANK YOU huge for the recipes.
Now I recommend everyone to buy two HP. ...
Judi
Guys, please tell me how this oven bakes sweet? Something I can't make friends with her, I recently baked Butter Kulich - all according to the recipe, delicious, but the crust is specifically tanned .. In LG I have a yellowish, soft crust .. It is the same with French bread (according to the recipe where there are 3 tablespoons of sugar) - burnt: ((
Margit
Quote: Judi

Guys, please tell me how this oven bakes sweet? Something I can't make friends with her, I recently baked Butter Kulich - all according to the recipe, delicious, but the crust is specifically tanned .. In LG I have a yellowish, soft crust .. It is the same with French bread (according to the recipe where there are 3 tablespoons of sugar) - burnt: ((
When turning on the Keks program, set the crust color Light coloured
Use less sugar with French bread (1.5 tablespoons). In French, the crust color is not regulated.
sazalexter
Judi The crust is light, and set the size small with the amount of flour 500g, everything will work out
Cubic
Panasonic has a native French recipe without sugar at all, on this program it seems to me that it bakes at a higher temperature, so for sweet pastries you probably need to choose a different mode ..
Zigor
I like to cook Easter cake in French, but it really fries a lot, and if you set it to a small size, it doesn't bake, there is a lot of baking. It seems to me that when manually setting baking, the temperature is lower, it seemed to me. Can someone tell me the temperature regime for the cake, so that the heavy dough is baked and not burned?
maya2
Maybe you have some other recipe for a French loaf, but according to the recipe in the book that comes with the oven, sugar is not included in the composition.
sazalexter
Zigor It's strange to do sweet pastries in French.
The heating is high, the proofing is very long. I bake on the main one, setting a smaller size and a lighter crust, everything bakes great!
Zigor
sazalexter.
I just liked that the proofing is long. I have a lot of butter and cream in my kulich (according to Pokhlebkin with changes in the direction of increasing fat content). The dough is heavy. Mostly it is not baked. Time is short. It is necessary to switch to manual mode, but I could not keep up with the time of presence, and therefore the car.
anneta21
Hello! I recently purchased a Panasonic 255 bread maker. I have been sitting on this forum for the third day, and I just can't figure out how to put the yeast so that later water does not leak through the flour to them? I have already read the topic in which it is advised to put flour in water, and not vice versa, but since I always believe the instructions, I first want to try to do it as it is written in the manual for Panasonic. Take the recipe straight from the instructions and try it. The only catch is how to keep the yeast safe from water.
Quote: Rina

anneta21, do everything according to the instructions. Water will not soak through the flour, they have the wrong properties.
Quote: Admin

If you are cooking right now, then yeast can be laid in any way - on flour / under flour, etc.
This will not affect kneading and baking, since the kneading of the dough begins immediately after placing the products, everything immediately starts to move, mixes from top to bottom and back. And it doesn't matter where the yeast was at the time of laying.
Baking will be of high quality, subject to the requirements of baking and kneading.

Yeast should be put on flour only with a delayed start, then it is necessary that the yeast does not come into contact with water (liquid) and does not start working prematurely, which can spoil the food.

I hope I answered your question
Quote: lga

Admin, You said everything correctly, except for one. This is Panasonic and the temperature equalization goes on different programs from 25 minutes to 2 hours 5 minutes. Therefore, the yeast and liquid must be separated with flour.
anneta21, try to sprinkle yeast on the bottom of the bucket away from the paddle and away from the sides. Liquid leakage (slight), very unlikely, but only possible in these areas. If the flour is not evenly poured or the spatula has moved when placing the bucket in the bread maker. Do not be afraid!!! You will succeed !!!
Quote: Admin

Sorry, missed the alignment
That's why I don't like Panasonic
Verra
Hello everyone!!!
Take a new baker into your ranks, with a huge amount of improvisation, with a blond understanding of what has been written, that is, everything is the other way around, who is eager to lose weight, and therefore - they bought HP !!! Already made 2 loaves !!!! And, essno. ate 2 huge chunks !! But I didn't dream of losing weight from this!
True, it turned out that I did everything the other way around, although I tried very hard to stick to the recipe in the book. And therefore, baked on a gluten-free setting. And in this mode, it turns out that you have to do the opposite, but I mixed all the ingredients as in the main mode, and did not figure out where to press the buttons.
But everything worked out !!! The loaves are great !!!
And what is more interesting - the first loaf was an egg from the recipe, however, on the contrary, it was baked for 2 hours - and great! And the second is a cake - but without whipping and stirring. In the scrap I separately beat the eggs. Also - the class turned out! The current threw a little sugar.) I can't trust the recipes, I had to throw it more !!)
I already put the third one !! But, of course, with improvisation !!!
I threw everything there on a whim, at 2 am there will be something, I don't know what, but with raisins, pumpkin seeds, in milk, instead of water, and olive oil instead of butter !!!
Scary. but interesting!!!

I still have a question after 3 loaves and the first day - and the main mode bakes only 4 hours. Can't you put less?
And then I still bake a cupcake, I don't want to beat the eggs separately. I immediately threw everything into the bucket.
But I wanted to put it on 3 hours. Is this real on our stove?
Aunt Besya
Our person!!!!
Welcome,Verra !!!
You wrote about yourself so humorously that it's a pity if it gets lost in the topic where they write about the stove as such.
Come HERE, there is where to tell about yourself. meet, introduce yourself and make friends !!!!
Anastasia
Quote: Verra


I still have a question after 3 loaves and the first day - and the main mode bakes only 4 hours. Can't you put less?
And then I still bake a cupcake, I don't want to beat the eggs separately. I immediately threw everything into the bucket.
But I wanted to put it at 3. Is it real on our stove?

yes, quite real! There is a program for baking quick bread Bake Rapid - it takes 2 hours.
Anastasia
Quote: Aunt Besya

Our person!!!!
Welcome,Verra !!!
You wrote about yourself so humorously that it's a pity if it gets lost in the topic where they write about the stove as such.
Come HERE, there is where to tell about yourself. meet, introduce yourself and make friends !!!!

Lena! Don't be afraid, it won't get lost! This is our man-already got a personal blog
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=61711.0 and introduced himself there!
Verra
Duc good people are everywhere. sent.

And now questions, but for the blonde. That is, respond slowly and 2 times.
The problem is to figure out the buttons.
I won all the first buttons, which I am incredibly proud of, and began to think well of myself!
But the last button remained - well, I just can't understand!
Timer. I can't understand anything. I read the instructions. I didn't understand, eessno.
So, how to deal with this time there?
If the main mode - then the stove itself gives out time?
And in rye she showed me 1.55. And it doesn't change? Does she know herself?
What about delayed time?
I put 9 o'clock, and she will bake for 9 o'clock?
And what is the leveling temperature?
And why does the stove write the tempo - after starting? What does it mean?
Anastasia
With Tamer you set the time AFTER HOW MUCH you want to get bread. If it is 11 in the morning, and you need bread at 18 00, then you count how many hours in this interval (there are 7 of them) and set 7 hours on the timer, and the bread maker knows when to start stirring and baking in the program you have chosen with this chosen period of time. With a timer, that's it, no difficulties.

Now about TEMP, you use your HP too often, not letting it cool down between preparations. As soon as it cools down and is ready for use again, the inscription will go out.
Verra
Well, cool, I immediately understood !! True the first part of the answer.
And on the second, I still have a question (I’m refusing) - if the pace is on = you need to turn off the stove and let it cool down and rest from my appetite, or it will cool down, rest and turn on, and you don’t need to turn off anything. Let the light flash?
Anastasia
Quote: Verra

Let the light flash?

Come on, it blinks, as soon as the stove is ready for work, it will go out and you will see it and you will be able to program it again for work! The oven is very smart and this lamp goes out when it cools down below 40 degrees, so that the yeast will no longer cook, it will not deteriorate and the baking result will not suffer.
sazalexter
Verra "Leveling" is such a "trick" from Panasonic, which allows, for example, to use milk directly from the refrigerator without heating, without melting the butter. At the same time, you always get consistently excellent results
For example, I take out the bread, open the lid of the HP, the bucket cools on a stand, then it is washed and dried. By this time, the HP has already cooled down to the desired state and you can put the bread again.This is about 30-45 minutes for cooling
Verra
Oh, well, thank you for your answers !!
I’ll go and see what’s there at my nurse’s.
Verra
Quote: Anastasia

The stove is very smart and this lamp goes out when it cools
Smart then she is smart, but capricious.
Already cooled down, but does not want to turn it on for baking.
You see, I threw a new experiment there - I wanted black bread sharply.
And she didn't bake it. Well, I think right now, I'll fix the matter with baking.
But it was not there. It has been blinking for an hour, and has not invited me to the table. And even refuses to include the program.
Roofing felts take care of my figure, roofing felts are blonde, like me. She's a little white girl.
Verra
Quote: sazalexter

Verra "Leveling" is such a "trick" from Panasonic, which allows, for example, to use milk directly from the refrigerator without heating, without melting the butter.
That's for me. to warm up and melt to me in scrap.
And the household in front of her husband looks like a hotz after all.
sazalexter
Verra I really hope you will quickly make friends with the bread maker, and the husband will be happy
To reset the program, press and hold the start-stop for more than 2 seconds, the HP will make a beep and turn off, then select the program again.
Verra
Quote: Anastasia

With Tamer you set the time AFTER HOW MUCH you want to get bread. If it is 11 am, and you need bread at 6 pm, then you count how many hours in this interval (there are 7 of them) and set 7 hours on the timer, and the bread maker herself knows when to start stirring and baking in the program you have chosen with this chosen period of time. With a timer, that's it, no difficulties.
It turned out that not everything is with the timer.
And difficulties arose.
In short, I needed the oven to give me bread in 8 hours.
I, as a helluva lot clever, read everything, understood everything. And from 8 hours I took 4 hours to bake bread, set the timer to 4.
I was very pleased with myself that I understood everything so cool and quickly.
In the evening we arrived, well, I think to myself, right now hot bread will meet us.
Oxtis !! The bread has long been baked and cooled down. It turned out well, of course, but without the crispy crust. Moreover, as an experiment, instead of water, I plopped a strong tea leaves, the bread turned out to be not white. But nothing. We, not spoiled guys - everything will go!
Anastasia
Why did you take something in time? I wrote that in how many hours do you need to get bread - such a figure on the timer and expose !!! Do you need bread in 8 hours, so you write on the display 8. Why did you take 4 hours? Naturally, the stove, following your instructions, baked everything in 4 hours, as it was shown on the display.
Verra
Why why..
I am smart, or I wanted to be.
Yes nicho, figured it out.
Today I tried to make the dough. It turned out a little liquid, I had to dominate it manually, but the cheesecakes turned out to be delicious !!!
So what? My husband is a Spartan, not spoiled, he likes everything.
And I also like this stove, and finally everything!
I'm so glad we bought it!
Now we imagine in the shops - we don't look at bread.
We go by, we do not notice him.
Still, homemade bread cannot be compared with purchased bread.
Even with my crooked handles and a late and long understanding.
Guys, is the dough liquid, that there is a lot of water? I kind of put everything according to the recipe for Moscow buns.
She didn't even act willfully, for once.
And I was also afraid to open the lid, look at the dough, I think I will bring down the temperature it needs.
Svetlana2010
Good evening everyone. So she became the proud owner of HP. The first 2 days, except for pies, the family did not allow anything to be done, and now it has already baked bread 2 times. Very tasty, everything is excellent, but there is a question. Maybe someone can answer it, thanks in advance. When the bread is being cooked, a very strong yeast smell is felt. Is that how it should be? I laid everything strictly according to the recipe. She made French and regular bread. And another question, tell me he shook. how to view all new topics on the forum? They are on my right in the column lined up, you just need to go into each one, or can you see them somehow differently?
Aunt Besya
Quote: Verra


Guys, is the dough liquid, that there is a lot of water? I kind of put everything according to the recipe for Moscow buns.
She didn't even act willfully, for once.
And I was also afraid to open the lid, look at the dough, I think I will bring it down to the temperature it needs.
well, of course, if there are only two options here: either there is little flour. or there is a lot of liquid, and if there is an egg in the composition, then the eggs may be too large. You can peep into the dough while it is kneading, nothing bad will happen.
Do you use a scale or a measuring glass?
Rina
Quote: Svetlana2010

When the bread is being cooked, a very strong yeast smell is felt. Is that how it should be? I laid everything strictly according to the recipe. She made French and regular bread.
Sveta, if it smells too much, the answer is one - excess yeast. How much and what kind of yeast do you put on how much flour?
Svetlana2010
1 tsp (i.e. small measuring attached -1pc.) 400 g of flour is for ordinary white bread
Svetlana2010
Prompt shook. if the recipe (for example, ordinary bread) contains 2 types of yeast (for regular baking and for accelerated baking), then you need to put only 1 type? that is, if in the usual mode, then the yeast is ordinary, and if it is necessary in the accelerated mode, then we put only accelerated? And what about the SAF-MOMEN fast-acting yeast? (ordinary or still accelerated). Sorry for the stupid questions, I'm just new to this business. Maybe I smell strongly of yeast due to the fact that I use fast-acting as usual on ordinary baked goods?
Aunt Besya
Svetlana2010 , Saf-moment yeast is suitable for any baking, both for the normal mode and for the accelerated one. we are not talking about different types of yeast. but about their different dosage. Fast baking requires more yeast
Svetlana2010
Aunt Besya, thank you very much.
And another question arose - what to do with the dough (cooked for pies) if there is too much left, how to save it until the next. days?
Svetlana2010
People help me how to translate into gr. 1 tbsp. tablespoons of butter (large measuring spoon from HP)? or just warm up and pour into a spoon? Thanks in advance, I'm sitting waiting for the oil to warm up
Aunt Besya
Seal tightly on top with plastic foil and refrigerate, but the quality will suffer, the dough will slightly oxydise, because the fermentation process will be slow, but go .. And if you need to keep it for more than a day, then you can safely freeze it. You will get it at the right time, it breaks, it will fit and you can bake
There are exactly 15 grams of softened butter in a tablespoon
Svetlana2010
Aunt Basia, thank you. In a spoon that comes with 15 gr. did I understand correctly?
Aunt Besya
This spoon is a tablespoon (measuring, which is included), and in any tablespoon -15 grams. But why do you need a measuring spoon, it is inconvenient to put in it, and it is even more disgusting to get it, take the usual
Svetlana2010
So they say that an ordinary dining room is different from a measured one, or am I wrong?
Anastasia
Quote: Svetlana2010

So they say that an ordinary dining room is different from a measured one, or am I wrong?

I measured, they are the same! If you pour water into an ordinary spoon and pour this water into a measuring one from Panasonic, everything works out exactly!
Celestine
What is the problem? Put in more oil - do not spoil the product, less - too, put as much as you want at the moment ... within reason
Verra


I do not know how to insert a picture, but the black bread turned out !!!
Anastasia
Quote: Verra



I do not know how to insert a picture, but the black bread turned out !!!

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Cvetaal
Today I became the proud owner of Panasonic SD 255, baked the first bread !!!! The taste is extraordinary !!! Thanks to all members of the forum.
Bread Maker Panasonic SD 255 (part 3)
saannai
Quote: Cvetaal

Today I became the proud owner of Panasonic SD 255, baked the first bread !!!! The taste is extraordinary !!! Thanks to all members of the forum.
Bread Maker Panasonic SD 255 (part 3)
Who would have doubted ......: :) Forward to master the capabilities of this miracle machine ...
Margit
Congratulations! I represent your enthusiasm and happiness from owning a wonderful stove, I went through it myself. I wish you delicious airy breads and good mood!
Cvetaal
Girls, thank you very much! How I like my bread machine, baked different breads and everything worked out !!! Photo posted here
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=1699.40

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