Kara
Quote: Marpl
how much does 2l MV (10t.r) cost
Why 10 thousand? On the first page:
Price 279 yu + delivery in China 25 yu
Size: 27x24.6x24.6 cm
Volume: 2 l
Power: 600 W
Pressure: 70 kPA
Temperature: 60-80 deg.

And there
Quote: tsetse fly
Product prices are in yuan, multiply by 10 to convert to rubles (roughly)

Total 304 yuan approximately = 3040 rubles. Will delivery from China to Elena and from Elena to me cost 7,000 rubles? Or do I think something wrong?
OgneLo
Quote: Loksa
For some reason, the kids are all decent!
Yes
Quote: Kara
Why 10 thousand?
This is from the series "I heard the ringing, but did not understand where it came from" you can buy it on jd for 7.5, but why?
Sedne wrote:
Quote: Sedne
My baby arrived for 2 liters
Quote: Sedne
about a thousand 4 - 4.5, it's difficult to say for sure, since I bought not only her

Quote: Kara
Total 304 yuan approximately = 3040 rubles
...
Or do I think something wrong?
Initially we pay: (А + В) х10 + 30%, i.e. 4,295.44 ₽
Lena will then take these 30% into account in C + D + E, and if something remains, then in F

For a preliminary estimate of the values ​​of D and F, according to data on the Internet:
Quote: var. A
Packaging
Measurement unit: piece
Package Weight: 4.0kg (8.82lb.)
Package Size: 40cm x 30cm x 30cm (15.75in x 11.81in x 11.81in)
and
Quote: var. B
Package Weight : 4.24 kg
Net weight : 4.24kg
Package Size : 33.0cm x 31.5cm x 30.5cm
What's in the box : multicooker x 1, measuring cup x 1, rice spoon x 1, instructions x 1
you can estimate the approximate cost of delivery from Lena to each of us.
+ if you wish, you can buy her your own multicooker cord with our plug, better with a switch, or use a cord from an existing technique.
Marpl
OgneLo, I will answer you, I took the price not from the ceiling, but from messages on 3 pages, wrote Win-tan. I like this MV, but for God's sake, buy at any price. It's just that everyone here can express their personal opinion. Personally, I will never buy this MV for this money, there are decent options for a lower price, with a guarantee and Russian program designations. If I wanted to experiment, I would buy a Xiaomi induction MV for 3 liters, here in Russia and with a guarantee. But that's just my opinion.
Kara
Quote: OgneLo
you can buy on jd for 7.5, but why
Marina, I gave an example of cost and ordering on a specific TaoBao website through our forum
Quote: OgneLo
+30%
Quote: OgneLo
Initially we pay: (А + В) х10 + 30%, i.e. 4,295.44 ₽
Quote: OgneLo
you can estimate the approximate cost of delivery from Lena to each of us.
Can
I estimated the amounts for the items indicated by Elena
Quote: tsetse fly
To the amount of the goods (taking into account the work of the intermediary), add:
1) the cost of delivery in China, if it is indicated by the seller (when buying the same product from one seller, it is divided by all participants in the purchase)
2) Packaging of cargo from 350 rubles (the cost depends on the volume), is divided into all participants in the purchase
3) 270r / 1kg delivery to the border (you pay after I receive and weigh each order separately).
4) Delivery of a common box to me is divided into all participants in the purchase according to the weight of each specific order
Point 3 and 4 you pay only after I receive the entire current ransom !!!
5) Labor Code in the Russian Federation (you pay on your own upon receipt).
1.304 yuan - approximately 3040
2. there are already at least four of us in Moscow, well, let it be 200 rubles from each
3.1100 RUB
5.750 rub. Business lines
The total is 5090 without taking into account point 4, but I somehow doubt that it can be 5000 rubles.

5,000 rubles is still not 10,000 rubles.

Quote: OgneLo
This is from the series "I heard the ringing, but did not understand where it came from" you can buy it on jd for 7.5, but why?
I heard the ringing, and I know exactly what I want. I need a multicooker for a small volume, a maximum of 2 liters, instead of my 02 redmond, which I take with me on all trips. I didn't find anything decent in Russia, neither for 5 thousand, nor for 10. The new RMC-03, released instead of 01 and 02, is disgusting in its shape, an oval something that will take me half a suitcase (may its owners forgive me) , and costs from 5 to 6 thousand in Moscow. And "it" is just a slow cooker.Buy for 5, and even for 6 thousand, a neat multicooker-pressure cooker, I consider a profitable investment.
Quote: Marpl
If I wanted to experiment, I would buy a Xiaomi induction MV for 3 liters
Marina, I would also buy, probably. But I need a small multicooker, 3+ liters, I have 3 pieces + a large Shteba
Marpl
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Kara
Quote: Marpl
Now there is a very decent MV-SV for 3L Polaris 1203. In the summer it was 3t. R

Quote: Kara
I need a multicooker on a small volume, maximum 2 l,
OgneLo
Quote: Marpl
here everyone can express their personal opinion
something tells me that in this particular case, your opinion would be more appropriate in the topic Choosing a slow cooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker (2)... Moreover, there your opinion could be relevant and useful for someone. You, for some reason, came to the topic of a specific model of a baby pressure cooker, namely Joyoung pressure cooker JYY-20m3
Quote: Marpl
If I wanted to experiment
it's up to you
Quote: Marpl
then I would buy an induction MB Xiaomi for 3 liters, here in Russia and with a guarantee
and again, for this topic, "finger to the sky"
we need:
- pressure cooker
- up to 2 l
The rice cooker from Xiaomi does not possess any of these qualities. And the ability to "control the iron from a smartphone" is also not relevant for everyone. For me, no.
Quote: Kara
I heard the ringing
It was to this comment Marpl:
Quote: Marpl
And for that kind of money, how much does 2L MV (10t.r) cost and without a guarantee from us, it's generally nonsense
And you write everything correctly.

Quote: Kara
New Redmond RMC-03
has bad reviews from those with previous models. I also worked on this topic and did not find anything better suited to my needs than Joyoung JYY-20m3.
I, in this case, do not understand at all why we need Marpl offers something that doesn't interest us and we don't ask?
Marpl
OgneLo, fight further with your head, as in your emoticon, choosing them from 3 MV to 2L.
Kara
Quote: Marpl
choosing them 3 MV to 2L
Marina, from which three?
Marpl
Redmond 01, Redmond 02 and this one with hieroglyphs. Redmond 03 in terms of volume, though 2L, is bulky as 3L and the price is not adequate.
Kara
Quote: Marpl
Redmond 01, Redmond 02
Marina like Shade wrote in one of the topics: "I am with you" If you find me on sale 01 or 02 Redmond, or Philips HD3060 (new, and not for 10 thousand), I will give you a thousand on top
I found

🔗


19 thousand, Karl! WITH DISCOUNT! Not the fact that they have them in stock, rather, another cheerleader
Marpl
Irina, look here, in any case, MV is put in the basket.

🔗

Kara
Marina, put it down. We'll talk to operators tomorrow If you really manage to buy,
Quote: Kara
i will give you a thousand on top

PS: Tomorrow I didn't wait, I called now, the store turned out to be round the clock
As expected, no Redmond multicooker is available. To the question: "Why do you have them in stock and can be put into the basket, operator Elena answered me that on their website you can put any product in the basket, and the availability must be checked with the operator."
Forum brethren have gone through everything and everywhere (and not only in Russia) more than once. We bought up all Avito, regardless of the prices and the state of the multicooker. They have been gone for about a year, I don’t know what the Redmond company was guided by, removing the most popular multicooker models from sale in November last year.
And once having tried the convenience of the baby, hardly anyone can already be without her. Therefore, we rushed after the Chinese characters, and not at all in pursuit of experiments (at least I)
Marpl
There are several Redmonds on Avito, and they periodically appear in our flea market. At the office. the site must leave a request. On one site I left a request for an order, if it works, I will let you know. (There for 7068r)
OgneLo
It's all "worms for fish" bait...
Quote: Marpl
gramix
at the very bottom of each page we read:
Quote: gramix
We draw your attention to the fact that this website is for informational purposes only and under no circumstances is a public offer determined by the provisions of Article 437 of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation!

Kara
Quote: Marpl
There are several Redmonds on Avito
I have a fad, I do not buy equipment used.
Quote: Marpl
and they periodically appear in our flea market
Has not appeared since December 2017.
At the office. On the site, my application has been hanging for 6 months, as well as on ozone. Fridge. ru rejected the same application a couple of months ago (it also hung there for about six months) and posted an official statement
This product is no longer for sale in our online store. It was discontinued on 11/29/2017.
win-tat
Quote: Marpl
she took the price not from the ceiling, but from messages on 3 pages, wrote Win-tan.
Marina, this is the price on Ali, the girls asked if they saw her there, so I gave links
Quote: Rada-dms
Where did you find her on Ali?
And in the same message I wrote
Quote: win-tat
Lena's will be at times cheaper.
Therefore, we are not talking about any 10 thousand here.

Quote: OgneLo
something tells me that in this particular case, your opinion would be more appropriate in the subject Choosing a slow cooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker (2). Moreover, there your opinion could be relevant and useful for someone. You, for some reason, came to the topic of a specific model of a baby pressure cooker, namely the Joyoung JYY-20m3 pressure cooker
I don't understand either, the topic specific, no one here for advice on choosing a cartoon pressure cooker asks why litter the topic with extraneous cartoons.
Rada-dms
I'll tell you Briefly! We want to buy a small SCOPE COATER of 2 L! If there is a device that is equivalent and identical in volume and functions, then in this topic it will be appropriate just to give a link to it. And in the future, open a topic for comparison. But since there is none and is not foreseen, then .... read above Karu!

By the way, I read the topic about a three-liter one, some problems are being discussed, we have to get used to it, porridge is somehow boiled with the left hand behind the right ear ... This is the first impression of a three-liter ...

Marpl
Means poorly read. Porridge in it is boiled on porridge, time 30 minutes and pressure 3. Pressing one button - porridge.
Rada-dms
Marpl, Your text from that topic about the 3-liter: "I turned on the Milk porridge, and there it took 1.5 hours, I set it to 30 minutes, so during this time everything just warmed up to a boil. started another 30 minutes. In the meantime, the porridge was being prepared, I read the recipes on the official Polaris website, so they cook porridge there for My recipe - first they bring it to a boil, and then they set the cooking time. We must try to cook in different ways. "
Also YOUR text: "I tried to cook buckwheat porridge from the recipe book - 25 minutes at a pressure of 3. To my taste, the porridge is undercooked, I watched when it began to cook under pressure, so it was gaining pressure for 12 minutes, and then cooking under pressure. I started it for another 16 minutes. "
The third alarmed: “Why? Why does the lid flip to the right and the plug is inserted from the left ??? For my hands, everything should be the other way around! Eeeh ... "
I didn't read any further! But I am sincerely glad for those who made friends with her!
Marpl
This was the first try. Then I got up to cook all the porridge on porridge, and not on milk porridge, and everything is fine and fast.
win-tat
Ladies, let's finish talking about Polaris, Redmond, etc.
Marina Marplif you have something to say about the baby Joyoung, we will listen to you carefully, but you really don't need to collect everything in this thread in a row.
Marpl
Yes, I have already left, and let the moderator clean up the topic.
Kara
Girls who already have a "joystick", tell me pliz, porridge, for example, milk, how long does it take to cook from the moment the lid is closed to readiness, including automatic (not forced) pressure release?
Svetlana777
Irina, depending on what kind of porridge, rice 13 min (medium program) +7 set of pressure, and if not forced, then this should be timed (but I think on average 15-20 minutes,) just a porridge 30 program (but positioned as 8 porridge, and here, of course, I think not for oatmeal,) What would be a specific answer for cereals, it is necessary to conduct a test on 4 programs of one type of cereal, then you can certainly say what and how. (I can say that I cooked chickpeas, but not on legumes (because I think that it is not for soaked legumes, the conclusion is after cooking masha), but on the program at random - which time I liked, 12 minutes max pressure and he was ready!
I look here for price disputes, etc.I already wrote above an approximate calculation, 5t is for sure, but having 3 different babies, I bought this one precisely because of the pressure function and I'm sooooo glad that I have it.
Now the guarantees - if we talk about them, the goods are defective, TTT, under the guarantee we hand over in the best case, in the worst repair, but where is the guarantee that it will not fly again, and if the warranty ended yesterday, and it is that .. And?

Sorry, not about cartoons, but about a guarantee. I had it like that with Asko's washing machine, reliable, as they wrote, because the cost was ...., after a year it began to leak, the warranty ended and although the website says 2g, it turned out that it was not for the people, another half a year and - skiff failure of programs, we do not even reprogram for a fee, (a new unit costs half of the car) bought another. BUT, my husband still remembers my Wishlist, then you could buy 3 normal wash. cars for that price

If you decide to buy, then you just don't need to think about the guarantee (so as not to jinx it).
It's just that there was another pressure cooker in the purchases, but cheaper, of an unknown brand, yes, it was possible to save money, but China has its own brands of decent quality (not deshman, by the quality of which we try to judge all their products.) And the price for them is not small and this babe is in that category.
selenа
Quote: Marpl
then I would buy an induction MB Xiaomi for 3 liters, here in Russia
from this place in more detail
win-tat
Quote: selenа
in more detail
Hope selenа, we already sort of agreed not to clog the topic, here is a conversation about Joyoung, in more detail about MV Xiaomi to Marpl in a personal
Ilmirushka
Marina, and I am with a digression ... already irrelevant
win-tat
Girls, what is it, there is no moderator here, no one will clean, the last 3 pages are about nothing!
Biryusa
Click on the exclamation mark Joyoung pressure cooker JYY-20m3, and the Chief will demolish the entire offtopic (or transfer it to the topic of choice).
Kara
Quote: Svetlana777
reset, if not forced, then this should be timed
And if you forcefully dump, the porridge will not climb through the valve? I dropped it once in the Shtebe
Quote: Svetlana777
just a porridge program 30
Does that mean no pressure?
If I correctly grasped the essence, then everything that is cooked in a conventional MV for less than an hour, in the joystick, it makes no sense to cook in the pressure cooker mode, because in time will it work out?
And another question, is the valve removable?
Svetlana777
Quote: Kara
And if you forcibly dump, the porridge will not climb through the valve?
I dumped, it did not crawl. (it may also depend on the volume of products, I cooked for 1 st cereal
Quote: Kara
Does that mean no pressure?
no, there are all programs with pressure. This is a clean pressure cooker. (it can be adjusted, damn it, while I am writing myself, I was puzzled, I wonder, but if you remove the pressure completely, it will work, I could not stand it and got it out - no, it does not work at all without pressure (the smallest pressure of 2 strips can be increased, but not reduced (i.e. That is, any program has its own pressure mode, I can either increase or decrease it, but at least 2 divisions (you need to find how much this means in ba).
Quote: Kara
And another question, is the valve removable?
the valve just does not exist (like in a pressure cooker) it needs to be unscrewed. Removable, I repeat, the cover and the seal.
Loksa
Svetlana777, but can I wash the lid in the dishwasher?
Kara
Quote: Svetlana777
and if you remove the pressure completely, it will work, I could not stand it, I got it, - no, without pressure, it does not work at all
Sveta, please forgive me for torturing me, trying to understand, but if the pressure is set to a minimum, and the valve is not closed. Or does it not work as well as in Shteba, turned the valve the other way, and it will not close?
Girls, if you could share what else you did in it, and what a result, please!
Loksa
Kara, ask, I also read! It is important to find out everything!
Svetlana777
Quote: Kara
and do not close the valve. Or does it not work as well as in Shteba, turned the valve the other way, and it will not close?
Irin, I didn't see Shteba in my eyes, but the principle is probably the same as in Redik - the valve for pressure must be set to the closed / open position, if you mean that, then here it is not necessary to turn it at all, (I think this is so in the specified pressure cookers, because they still cook without pressure, so you need to turn the valve, and the baby is just a pressure cooker, so at least spinning here won't change anything.
Quote: Kara
Girls, if you could share what else you did in it, and what a result, please!
so I thought that they would share cooking recipes here, unfortunately I just got it and haven't really cooked anything yet

I counted on porridge in the morning, quickly various, and not just oatmeal, but then, as luck would have it, my husband began to use yogurt instead of porridge, now I cook it.

As the test progresses, I will share my impressions




Quote: Loksa
Can I wash the lid in the dishwasher?
the instructions do not. but I would not do this, it's a pity, for me it's happiness that she is removed and there is no problem to wash
OgneLo
There is some misunderstanding here.

In fact, programs, in Russian, should sound something like this:
米饭 - 11 /13/ 15 - Rice - [rice - rice]
五谷 ​​饭 - 12 /15/ 18 - Groats / porridge - [grain rice - cereal rice]
八QL - 25 /30/ 35 - Pudding / casserole / baking - [eight treasure porridge - porridge eight treasures] (look in the network for recipes and cooking technology of this "porridge")
宝 - 33 /38/ 40 - Stewing - [baby porridge - baby porridge]
煲汤 - 18 /20/ 25 - Soup - [soup - soup]
排骨 - 10 /12/ 15 - Meat - [sparerib - spare parts] (literally - pork ribs)
鸡 / 鸭肉 - 09 /12/ 15 - Bird - [chicken / duck - chicken / duck]
豆 / 蹄筋 - 30 /35/ 40 - Beans / aspic - [beans / tendons - beans / tendons] (蹄 - literally - hoof; 筋 - literally - tendons)

The general rules for filling the bowl when cooking in electric pressure cookers are simple:
1. The total volume of food and liquid must not exceed 80% of the volume [⅘] of the removable bowl (20% of the free volume [⅕] is required to build up pressure during cooking).
2. When cooking legumes, rice and cereals, the total volume should not exceed 60% of the volume [⅗] of the bowl.
3. Always use at least one measuring cup of liquid if pressure cooking.
4. Water and food should occupy more than 20% of the volume [⅕] of the removable bowl.

Cleaning and maintenance
1. Unplug the pressure cooker before cleaning.
2. Use a damp cloth to clean the body of the pressure cooker.
3. Remove the condensation water tank and clean it with a damp cloth.
4. Rinse the cover and all of its parts, then dry well with a dry towel.
5. Rinse the inner container using a sponge or non-metallic brush and wipe the container dry with a towel.
WARNING: Pressure cooker parts not dishwasher safe.

All this, so far theoretically, is based on the experience of using 5-liter fast mullet, including repeated reading of their instructions ... [from mnu: ViTESSE VS-526 & VS-512]

Kara
Quote: OgneLo
Beans / tendons
I think it's about jellied meat. Both beans and jellied meat are cooked for a long time, apparently, this is the longest program
Quote: OgneLo
Always use at least one measuring cup of liquid when pressure cooking.
4. Water and food should occupy more than 20% of the volume [⅕] of the removable bowl.
This point confuses me. In the stew, I always stew meat without liquid at all, pour only 1 tbsp. l. olive oil to the bottom, meat, spices, onions. At the exit, the released juice almost covers the meat
Sedne
Quote: Svetlana777
so I thought that they would share cooking recipes here, unfortunately I just got it and haven't really cooked anything yet
So you can cook in the same way as in pressure cookers with a mechanical valve. It is no different, except for the size, and that the time cannot be set by yourself. All of these programs work almost the same way, you just choose the right time and set the pressure. I made soup and porridge and meatballs and meat, everything was very tasty, I didn’t do anything original, I didn’t bake pastries, the rest did everything that I did in my other assistants. I always make porridge for 3-4 pressure, soups, meatballs, meat max pressure.




Quote: Kara
Sveta, please forgive me for torturing me, trying to understand, but if the pressure is set to a minimum, and the valve is not closed.
0 pressure is there, it's like no pressure.
OgneLo
Quote: Kara
I am always in the staff
I described my experience in whitesk. But we don't fry in them. "Filling Rules" and about "Cleaning and Maintenance" quoted instructions. And we follow them.
For reference:
Admin Time taken to cook different foods in a pressure cooker
Svetlana777
Quote: Sedne
0 pressure is there, it's like no pressure.
where is it? I watched all the programs, tried to reduce the pressure at all, but it does not go below 2 strips
Rada-dms
Svetlana777, and the shortest program, how long does it take?
Svetlana777
Quote: Rada-dms
and how long does the shortest program work?
10 min
Loksa
Quote: Kara

This point confuses me. In the stew, I always stew meat without liquid at all, pour only 1 tbsp. l. olive oil to the bottom, meat, spices, onions. At the exit, the released juice almost covers the meat
But such a preparation must be tested! And this is a very curious moment. If there is no water, there will be no pressure, but the staff cooks, because it starts the program even without pressure (with the valve open). But how this one will behave is interesting. If you start cooking, then logically it is without pressure. I'm afraid it may freeze and not turn on.
Although the pressure appears after boiling, then the cooking mode should start! really curious! And how quickly will it open after such cooking?




I wonder if baking means only batter? or bread too? If bread is also baked, you can also try such meat ?!
Rada-dms
Svetlana777, thank you dear! super time!
OgneLo
Quote: Rada-dms
and how long does the shortest program work?
Quote: Svetlana777
10 min
shortest - 09 minutes - on the "fast" version of the Bird program
the longest - 40 minutes - on the "slow" versions of the programs Braising - [baby porridge - baby porridge] and Beans / tendons
the longest, among the "standard" time variant - 38 minutes - on the program Braising - [baby porridge - baby porridge]
Quote: Loksa
If there is no water
the product will come out dry and the device will take longer to reach the "starting" pressure. Tested on the shank in VS-526 using the Braising program, the shank weight was approx. 1 kg.
Quote: Loksa
And how quickly will it open after such cooking?
the baby has a pressure release button on the lid handle.
Loksa
OgneLo, Marina, a little dry? logical!
About pressure relief, it's clear. I thought, if she doesn't gain pressure, then it should open immediately: girl-th: or faster
Rada-dms
If there is a mode without pressure, then you can start on it before the juice is released, and then switch.
Loksa
No, no pressure, girls wrote
OgneLo
Quote: Loksa
if it does not gain pressure, then it should open immediately
of course, but pushing a button "to avoid" is a matter of seconds. I don't see any problem in this.
Quote: Loksa
No pressure
value "0" is without pressure (0kPa)

I ask the owners of Joyoung JYY-20m3 to clarify if I understand correctly the principles of controlling the baby:
Joyoung pressure cooker JYY-20m3
and how the selection of the cooking program is carried out: by repeatedly pressing the "Select" button or, after pressing the "Select" button, by turning the "Start" button, in the same way as the selection of the delayed start time for the selected cooking program?
And, if possible, share a scan of the instructions

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