Kestrel
So, I look, and no one comes here ...
And I looked at one more pizsepichka, also cadre, "industrial", but compact, "baby", so to speak. As someone has already written here, it will stand quite under the microwave, I think; but the characteristics were of direct interest:
Temperatures up to 500 g are VERY interesting! and, supposedly - from 0 (well, at least from 50 * and that would be great)! Chamber height - 11cm! Under "from a fire-resistant material" - a stone, that is. And the external dimensions are normal and the connection is 220 ... the price ... well, the price is cheaper than Thermomix, for example (which I also want soooooo)

yes, yes, I now have all the prices for kitchens. I measure devices in Thermomix, it's soooo convenient, you know ...: girl_haha: everything turns out so inexpensively And if you also compare with TM5


mec piccolo 2t
Main characteristics
Connection 220 V
Capacity (pizza) 1
Number of chambers (pods) 1
Number of pizzas in one chamber 1
Internal dimensions of the chamber 410x410x110 mm
Temperature range from 0 to 500 ° С
Power 2.2 kW
Width 555 mm
Depth 460 mm
Height 290 mm
Weight (without packaging) 27 kg
Country of origin Italy
The Mec Piccolo 2T oven has one spacious chamber, the dimensions of which are 410x410x110 mm. Due to the efficient operation of powerful heating elements, it is possible to quickly heat up the air in the chamber and cook pizza in less than five minutes! Heating elements are located in the furnace chamber in groups: in the upper and lower parts. It is because of this that pizza cooks so quickly. Temperature control is carried out thanks to the thermostat knob. The maximum air temperature in the chamber of the Mec Piccolo 2T pizza oven is + 500 ° С. The furnace body and door are made of stainless steel. The main advantage of this model of the pizza oven is the high cooking speed and reliability of operation during daily active use.
gawala
Kestrel, pizza golden comes out ... 800 euros single oven and from 1000 euros double oven ...
Kestrel
gawala, duck we have a ferrari without delivery to NN 16000, if we take it to the Russian Federation. I just thought - from Amazon because of the course it is not much cheaper, thousand 2 difference ...
And yes - I looked now - we have this single Piccolo (and I don't need a double one) from 29,000 rubles to 32,000, they write that we have it. I translated the price into Euro - about 450 at today's exchange rate. But not 16,000 like a Ferrari, of course.

I don't have any anyway now.But dreaming ...

gawala
Quote: Kestrel
about 450 at today's rate turned out
Anyway .. in my opinion it is very expensive ... for a piece of dough with cheese ...


Added Monday 19 Sep 2016 6:23 PM

Quote: Kestrel
I don't have any anyway now.But dreaming ...
Yes, if I had the money, I would definitely not buy one like this ... the bicycle still cannot be invented in terms of frying pizza, and 450 euros are not superfluous at all on the farm. I still have a plane ticket and still have ...
Kestrel
gawala, and Ferrari you like? I, if anything, without a "joke" I ask, just wondering ... Just trying to understand, do you think that this particular model is expensive, or in general pizza makers at such prices, including a Ferrari?
Pchela maja
Quote: Kestrel
I translated the price into Euro - about 450 at today's exchange rate. But not 16,000 like a Ferrari, of course.
IMHO, for homemade pizza the Ferrari is more than time-tested. 450 euros for a pizza oven ... you can probably find a more interesting use for money, go to Italy, as an example
gawala
Quote: Kestrel
How about Ferrari?
No, I don't have it, although the idea was to buy a long time ago, when they just started to appear on the market .. Now they cost 100 euros .. how much they were three years ago, I don't even remember, but probably more expensive. a new brand is always expensive at first, and after a couple of years the price drops dramatically ...
We generally eat pizza very rarely, it's good if once a year .. or even less often .. Yes, and I have a baking stone .. in the oven if I do anything .. well, either in an electric frying pan, there are a lot of them everywhere .. family loves thin pizza and crispy bottom, that's just in such a pan it turns out the bottom is crispy, and the top is with melted cheese ..
Alex100
for home cooking, ferrari without a doubt
and industrial ovens at home are useless, just go broke on electricity alone
Belka13
Girls, I won't find a Bestron stove on the CU. Has it disappeared from sale, or something, or am I somehow not looking like that?
Zhanik
Ladies, hasn't anyone compared the Ariete 905 with the Ferrari?
win-tat
Natalia, Ferrari is beyond competition, the one who has it will not buy Ariete in order to compare, as they say, they are not looking for good. Max t ° is 230 ° C, Ferrari is 400 ° C, I think the difference is noticeable. On Ozone, they write in a review that when the bottom is fried, the top does not redden.
Zhanik
Quote: win-tat
Ferrari out of competition

Thank you!


Added on Tuesday 20 Sep 2016 04:20 PM

Girls, good day!
You will laugh, but hunting is worse than bondage
Found my son Ferrari on some website for 89 euros ... but 60 forwarding (((
I climbed up to look in the night, where for what ... and found it in St. Petersburg. True BU once. but also the price is 5 sput !!! Although I love, of course, everything is new ... but the temptation is great
It has already been brought to me.
I'm glad !!! After all, I have wanted her for several years ... But the thing is not essential. I didn’t come across in Russia. And then the course became simply unrealistic ... But I so wanted to please my deviceaholic soul ...
Yesterday was my day. I'll roll it in in the evening)))
win-tat
Quote: Zhanik
It has already been brought to me.
Nataliahow good it is when a dream comes true! Delicious and quick pizzas for you!
And I also had pizzas from Ferrari yesterday, warming up for 10 minutes at "2.5" and baking for 5 minutes at "3", sounds ordinary, but from Ferrari's speed such euphoria begins!
Pizza oven Pizza oven
Pchela maja
Ferrari is the best, it’s better so far I haven’t met pizza ovens! both the result and the speed at altitude!
Congratulations on your purchase, 5tr for bu is not a pity for such a thing!
Mirabel
Ladies! Has anyone baked a calzone in a Ferrari? Tell me, pliz, the inept proportions of one bookmark. 2 times cooked and 2 times everything was welded to the tenu, But it turned out such a yummyaaaa.
gawala
Quote: Mirabel

Ladies! Has anyone baked a calzone in a Ferrari?
Vic, come in ...
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=395718.0
Mirabel
Checkmark, thank you! How could I not have guessed to check with Tanya.
Zhanik
Quote: win-tat
Natalia, how good it is when a dream comes true! Delicious and quick pizzas for you! And I also had pizzas from Ferrari yesterday, warming up for 10 minutes at "2.5" and baking for 5 minutes at "3", sounds ordinary, but from Ferrari's speed such euphoria begins!

Thank you! What beautiful !!! What kind of dough?
and I broke everything that could be broken ... there were no instructions. In general, the first pancake came out lumpy ... today I'll try again

Quote: Pchela Maja
Ferrari is the best, it’s better so far I haven’t met pizza ovens! both the result and the speed at altitude! Congratulations on your purchase, 5tr for bu is not a pity for such a thing!

Thank you! I will be further than her torment study)
Natusichka
Please, tell us what you can cook in a Ferrari? The dilemma stands: Ferrari or Princess?
Pchela maja
Quote: Natusichka
The dilemma stands: Ferrari or Princess?
Well, the princess is more versatile, suitable for frying cutlets, baking vegetables. Ferrari is a stone oven, good for pizzas, tortillas, croissants and similar products. Ideally, both are needed.
win-tat
NatusichkaFerrari is still a highly specialized oven, it is "sharpened" for pizza, tortillas, croissants. The princess is multifunctional, bake whatever your heart desires - from meat, vegetables to pies, just don't forget about the height of the lid.

Quote: Zhanik
What kind of dough?
Natalia, the dough is ordinary, I make in a bread maker on the "pizza" program, enough for 2 pizzas D ~ 30 cm:

300 ml water
500 g flour
2 tbsp / l dry / milk
2 tablespoons olives oil
3/4 tsp salt
0.5 tbsp / l sugar
1.5 h / l yeast

Quote: Zhanik
and I broke everything that could be broken ... there were no instructions.
Nataliaand what did you break? didn’t warm up the stove?
Mirabel
Natalia, Delicious pizzas for you!
Natusichka
Thank you girls, then princess!
Zhanik
Well. The second run is more successful ... The pizza came out quite good. But it’s not 5 minutes for me to prepare it ... and not even 10 (((maybe it’s a defective one? That’s why they sold it? It seems that I did everything right this time
Sedne
Natalia, and put in a preheated pizza?
Zhanik
Quote: Sedne

Natalia, and put in a preheated pizza?
Yes. Everything is as written here. 2.5 reheat and bake for 3


Added Thursday, 22 Sep 2016 10:35 PM

Quote: Mirabel

Natalia, Delicious pizzas for you!
Thank you


Added Thursday, 22 Sep 2016 10:36 PM

Quote: win-tat
Natalya, what have you violated? didn’t warm up the stove?
Tatyana, for the first time I warmed her up for 3 and put the pizza in. Like an oven in general ...
Sedne
Zhanik, then I don't even know, it should be ready in 5 minutes.
Zhanik
Quote: Sedne

Zhanik, then I don't even know, it should be ready in 5 minutes.

eh. Thank you
julia_bb
Zhanik, can I somehow check it? Is it OK or not? Which workshop to show ...
Zhanik
Quote: julia_bb

Zhanik, can I somehow check it? Is it OK or not? Which workshop to show ...

Yulia, Yes, my father is better than any workshop ... Just check? She warms up ... And from below and from above. Only now it seems to me that there is a long cooling period until the next turn on. Maybe a thermostat? but then you need to understand HOW it should work. Considering that they are not taken to Russia, where can one get such information?
win-tat
Quote: Zhanik
Only now it seems to me that there is a long cooling period until the next turn on.
I didn't understand this phrase. That is, it turns off during baking (5 minutes) or what? This should not be, according to the instructions, the light should always be on during baking, that is, the oven should not turn off.
Natalia, I sometimes also warm up to "3" for 5-7 minutes, if you need it faster, although the instructions say 10 minutes for "2.5", then baking for "3" for 5 minutes, somehow I added another 2 minutes, so it is very hard.
After baking the 1st pizza, before laying the 2nd, according to the instructions, keep the lid open for 2 minutes.

Here are the main points.
And of course, if the t ° regulator is at "3", and the pizza is not ready in 5 minutes, then something is wrong.

And when the first 5 minutes pass, do you turn the timer knob for another 5 minutes? And then and again, if you write that it is not ready even after 10 minutes? The set t ° in my opinion is associated with the timer knob.
Zhanik
Quote: win-tat
That is, it turns off during baking (5 minutes) or what? This should not be, according to the instructions during baking, the light should always be on, that is, the oven should not turn off

Tatyana, honestly at this moment I didn’t focus on whether the heating light turns off while the timer is ticking ... But the pizza is not ready exactly after five minutes. And then as if the light goes out and lights up again. But somehow not quickly ...
I will try again. I'll spot right here with a stopwatch ...
win-tat
Natalia, so turn the timer knob again, after the first 5 minutes?
I have somewhere on the 3rd min begins to squirm under the lid.
Zhanik
Tatyana, I twisted and did not twist ... Does not help. It seems to start to squirm. This is so ... But then everything somehow slows down sharply.
I really hope that it’s me armless (((
Next time I'll document everything
win-tat
Then we'll wait for the next time, you need to deal with this misunderstanding
Pchela maja
Try to warm up at 3K before the timer ends. I usually have the stove ready by this time.
Moreover, I often notice that baking in the future at 3k for a full timer already starts to burn a little, so sometimes I take it out even earlier.
I have it really high-speed, just have time to take out and throw the blanks.
Zhanik
Quote: win-tat

Then we'll wait for the next time, you need to deal with this misunderstanding

Tatyana, Yes. Thank you!

Quote: Pchela Maja

Try to warm up at 3K before the timer ends.

I warmed up much longer. True this time by 2.5. And in the past by 3. But the result is about the same ... Mine is definitely not high-speed. And I expected this from her. But if it turns out that she really is making a fool with me ... then I will ask my father to unscrew it and see ... Maybe the thermostat and or the mikra that controls it have welled up ... But first I will try to find out with your girl's help, Is it so.
Masinen
Zhanik, Natasha, mine bakes in 5 minutes.
I warm it up by 2.5 and then throw in the pizza and turn it to 3 and the light comes on, which means that the heating has started.

And yours is similar in reaction to my Bestron, but he also bakes for 5-6 minutes, acting on the same principle as with Ferrari.
Zhanik
Quote: Masinen
And yours is similar in reaction to my Bestron

Masha, but I have a Ferrari. Delicia
Pizza oven
Masinen
Zhanik, and I have a Ferrari and Bestron.
I have 2 different stoves, so I wrote and compared.
Zhanik
Quote: Masinen

Zhanik, and I have a Ferrari and Bestron.
I have 2 different stoves, so I wrote and compared.

a. got it ...
Something my elder got sick ... If I don't go to the dacha. I'll try again today-tomorrow to try happiness again
Pchela maja
And there is no thermometer to measure the temperature? I ordered an electronic one with Ali, it measures up to 400 like. With this probe, I would check right after heating ...
win-tat
Natalia, I am haunted by this timer knob. When the stove warms up, I turn the knob of the t ° sensor to "2.5" and timer knob for 5 minutes, when he tinks to "0", I again I turn the timer to 5 and at the end of this second 5 minutes, I open the lid, so the heating element is already red. I throw in the pizza, turn the temperature to 3 and turn the timer again for 5 min. Do you do the same? I just broke my whole head, why doesn't it heat up.
Zhanik
Quote: Pchela Maja

Is there no thermometer to measure the temperature? I ordered an electronic one with Ali, it measures up to 400 like. With this probe, I would check right after heating ...
Quote: win-tat
so the heating element is already red

Girls, wooooot, but I have no red! I do not feel insane heat from her. When I was studying the topic, I watched the video where the uncle bakes pizza in it. He has foil on the lid. And when he opens the stove, the foil also glows red, it seemed to me ...

I'll go and turn it on.
it is not necessary to bake ... just look again

and now the ten is red ... I wonder ... but maybe there is not enough tension for her in the evening, for example? Although our house is not old ... but in the evening everyone is at home. And we ourselves have everything inclusive that you can ..
or the fact that it has been in operation for only the fourth time (although this is unlikely to affect the heating, probably)
well, or I'm still a cross-handed ... It remains only to shove pizza ... no dough (

In general, 2.5 after the first heating after 5 minutes, the ten is red. The light is on.
On the second timer, after about a minute, the light went out.
I put the timer on 3 and again. The light came on and turned off in the middle of the timer. Ten is red. But the light is no longer on
I waited a couple of minutes with the lid open. I closed it again. the light is off. Time runs. Off ... I turned the timer again. Zero reaction. From which I draw the same conclusion that the timer lives separately from the thermostat.
On the fifth time the timer was turned on, the light came on again and turned off after 4 minutes, judging by the timer. Ten is already scarlet. I have not seen him like this before ...
win-tat
Of course, it is not necessary to bake, just turn it on for warming up as I wrote
Zhanik
Quote: win-tat

Of course, it is not necessary to bake, just turn it on for warming up as I wrote

edited above
win-tat
Quote: Zhanik
Ten is already scarlet. I haven't seen him like this before ...
Ufff, you can breathe out, it works!
Probably it really reaches the desired t and turns off, and when the cold pizza is thrown off on the stone and the t rises to "3", it turns on and the light comes on. Now it remains only to test with the test.
Zhanik
Quote: win-tat
Ufff, you can breathe out, it works

looks like Tatiana
schaz, the children will wake up, I will solve the problem with the dacha and put the dough ... I'll have to sacrifice the figure (which does not exist) for the purity of the experiment. What is there to do
win-tat
Quote: Zhanik
We'll have to sacrifice a figure (which does not exist) for the sake of the purity of the experiment.
Yes, this is not an easy thing, to check gravitational machines for professional suitability
Zhanik
Quote: win-tat
Yes, this is not an easy matter

Yes Yes. Libra is very hard then

One girl stepped on the scales and they fell apart. It's a pity, because she never knew if she was thin or fat.

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