kirch
As far as I know in modern times, with good medicines, the diet is no longer so cruel. Previously, yes, everything is rubbed. Well, of course, not everything is there. At the very ulcer.
sonic-boom
Masha, finally I am with a report. My adult ham, as Tanyulya says, is with nitrite salt. The previous ones were with the usual, such as boiled pork. I found salt on the Mirbir store website (everything for brewing), packaged in 200 gr. costs 60 rubles. I think there are such shops not only in St. Petersburg. Knead in HP, the result pleases, the ham is super.

Pork ham (Steba pressure cooker)
Masinen
sonic-boom, Zhenya, yeah, the ham is excellent! It shines straight! Very cool!
shurpanita
Maria, and set the chicken ham for the same time 3.30?
Masinen
well, yes, the same. This time, taking into account the heating of the water.

here is my chicken ham recipe

Chicken ham (Steba pressure cooker) (Masinen)

Pork ham (Steba pressure cooker)
Jenealis
Masha, how much to cook if I have 1.3 kg of raw material? Pork
Masinen
Evgeniya, so we look by diameter, not by weight)
Are you doing in white-sided?
Jenealis
Maria, yeah, in the box. I've already poured water, I'm waiting for the Central Office
Jenealis
answer me somebody
Svetlana_Ni
Evgeniya, so I found information from the specialists of our forum: 1cm - 10 minutes at 80 degrees plus 30-60 minutes for peace of mind. What do you get, interesting, count.
Masinen
And plus put on heating for 30-40 minutes
gala10
And I did it !!! Nuuu, not quite yet ... standing in the refrigerator ripens, but everything is adult, with nitrite. And, since all the meat did not fit into Teskoy, she packed the remains in a vacuum. So I'll compare how it turns out in a ham maker and in a vacuum. Everything fits into Shtebochka at once, so the experiment will be clean.
francevna
Galina, write in detail what weight was in the package, temperature and time. Cartoon staff or sous-vidnitsa?
gala10
Alla, Shteba DD2 - cartoon. In Teskom 1 kg, in a bag 200 g. The temperature will be set the same (75 degrees), the time for the ham maker is 3.5 hours, and I will take the bag out earlier, but I haven’t decided over time.
francevna
Galina, that's what it means to read diagonally. I figured the ham was getting cold in the fridge. So it will take a long time to wait for it.
I wish you a delicious treat.
shurpanita
Quote: Masinen
well, yes, the same. This time, taking into account the heating of the water.

Thank you!
sonic-boom
Jenealis,
Jenealis
sonic-boom, a? did, the superestic came out! The consistency is right. Only I had cumin in the seasoning, and I did not notice it. So he interrupted all the other herbs and somehow it doesn't taste good to me. although my guests seemed to like it. For myself, I made a conclusion that it is too heavy from pork, I must try it from turkey. Thank you, Masha, for the recipe.
Masinen
Jenealis, Zhen, and you mix chicken bndra with the pork, you know how delicious it is !!
Ham cannot be ham without pork))
Natalia K.
Quote: gala10
And I did it !!!
Gaaaaal ham where?
Business
Girls, what you are smart! In HP, you can knead! And how I was tormented - everything with handles (there is no combine) ... Hurray, now I will knead in HP
Masinen
By the way, yesterday I took the meat out of the freezer, let it stand for a while and cut it into cubes, it was still frozen, but it was already possible to cut it.

I kneaded and it seemed to me that there was more sticky mass, well, such a white one)
I'll see what comes out, better or also)
Now stands ripening in the refrigerator.
Tomorrow morning I'll put her to prepare)
gala10
Quote: natalisha_31
where is the ham?
And here:
Pork ham (Steba pressure cooker)
I did it together, in a ham maker and in a container:
Pork ham (Steba pressure cooker)
As a result, I did not notice the difference ...
I believe that both methods have a right to exist. If there is no ham, then it's okay, make a ham for health!
Masinen
Galina, from teskoma beautiful round !!

And beautiful came out of the container)
Well done!
Natalia K.
gala10, Gal, how does it taste? Did you like the ham? So, what are you sorry you bought a ham maker?
Irgata
Quote: Rituslya
The only difficulty, so it is difficult to get out of Tescoma
After several picking out of the finished sausage, ham from the cooled teskoma, I began to shake it out hot, after taking it out of the slow lye, I immediately pour out the broth from the teskomok, good for buckwheat porridge, and immediately shake it out, wrap it in foil, and in the refrigerator for ripening, like and ordered.
gala10
Quote: natalisha_31
are you sorry you bought a ham maker?
No, I didn’t regret it. It's easier to do in a ham maker. Less body movements.
And the taste - yes, wonderful, the purchased one did not stand next to ... ahh ... there she is - nervously smoking on the sidelines!
Plus, I like to know exactly what it's made of.
gala10
Quote: Irsha
after several picking out of the finished sausage, ham from the cooled tescoma
And I jumped out easily myself.
Masinen
Irsha, Irin, is it okay? The same?
gala10
Quote: Irsha
I will immediately pour out the resulting broth from the bastards, it is good then for buckwheat porridge
But I didn't guess to do this, the broth was wasted. I'll save it next time. Thanks for the tip!
Natalia K.
Quote: gala10
It's easier to do in a ham maker. Less body movements.
Yeah, I'm for that too.
Quote: gala10
And the taste - yes, great, the purchased one did not stand nearby
I really like it too

Quote: gala10
Plus, I like to know exactly what it's made of.
This is probably now everyone prefers to know

Although we do not see what they feed chickens and pigs on farms.

Irgata
Quote: Masinen
The same?
Mash, do you mean that it doesn't get cold? And she still does not eat right away, the current on the second day, it ripens well in foil. She wrapped one roaz in a bakery. paper - nope, it smelled of damp paper, rewrapped it in foil. Since I make 2 pieces - then I cut one in portions, and crumble in pieces - in the freeze, then throw it into a potato or into a frying pan with eggs =
Irgata
Quote: natalisha_31
Although we do not see what they feed chickens and pigs on farms.
Yes TV showed everything, sadists work there, but at least then more, no, no, the current is all by himself, all by himself, all by his own hands
Natalia K.
Quote: Irsha
yes the TV showed everything
Irina, it would be better if he did not show this to the sadiuga
Quote: Irsha
but at least then no more, no, the current is all by himself, all by himself, all by his own hands
from this and soothes that further everything is on my own
gala10
My friend's husband dropped in on business, and naturally I treated him to a freshly made ham. Liked. I asked everything about the cooking technology. They have neither a kneader nor a bread machine. He decided to adapt a drill for mixing minced meat ...
Natalia K.
Quote: gala10
He decided to adapt a drill for mixing minced meat ...
We kindly ask you to record the entire mixing process on video ... And what if someone will come in handy
fomca
The drill is used with a long stirrer for mixing mixtures. My husband made wine in large volumes from grapes, the drill was also used)
gala10
Quote: fomca
the drill went into action too
Our people are invincible !!!
Irgata
Quote: gala10
He decided to adapt a drill for mixing minced meat ...

even if you don’t buy a mixer (? manual, no twists, I don’t see a reason, everyone has laptops-tablets in their kitchens), then for kneading dense dough, you can not insert a whisk nozzle, there is a spiral kneader, here it is for meat and will do, only alone the spiral is not effective, for a man to take a kilogram of meat for 15 minutes = plyulat once
Loksa
I also made such a ham, with strict observance of all regimes, I liked everything. But there is one new thing - in the meat there are such films-toffee, I left them, and then regretted - they are not chewy with me. How to deal with them? Is it better to trim? Or are they just me, I even did the wrong thing?Pork ham (Steba pressure cooker)
Meat-pork ham and a piece of neck.
Masinen
Oksana, apparently a piece of meat was caught with films.
If they can be removed, then remove, otherwise, as it is, when it comes across))
Venera007
Loksa, the beautiful ham came out. I also leave the films, it's too dreary to cut them ...True, I did it from veal and fatty pork .... The films turned out to be a little rubbery in the ham, but it's easy to chew them, I like them, so now I don't throw away the films and trimmings of fat that remain after cooking the meat (more precisely, I don't give them to the dog), but I save for ham so that I can buy less lard, we have this rare product at home :)
sonic-boom
Jenealis, I made ham from 700 gr. Indian drumstick fillet and 500 gr chicken legs fillet. Diet and delicious. Today I will cook from chicken breast according to the Machine recipe, but without vodka, but with nitrite and milk. Unsubscribe.
Masinen
Evgeniya, I advise you to add hips to the breast so that it comes out fatter)
Twig
My chewy films come out, I love them :)) the most delicious
And I drain the broth from the ham, I also had the thought to keep it, but it is very salty, there is just the extract of nitrite salt, so the nafik is gone.
Yesterday I cooked the ham again, for the third time already. For a kg of meat, the formula is 15 g of nitrite salt and a teaspoon of gelatin. I'm just right.
Vkusnyakha
Loksa
And I did not add gelatin, where is it written about gelatin? I have 15 grams of nitrite. Today I will cook again. I did the current kneading in a combine and he was an infection, I smacked the pieces of meat a little, let's see what happens!
Fofochka
And I made ham with pork and turkey. Tasty, but a little dry. Next time I will add more frozen and crushed meat broth.
Girls, tell me, where in Moscow to get nitrite.
Loksa
Irsha, Ira, if you interfere with the mixer nozzles, then how long does it take to interfere?
Aunt Besya
Well, I just put on ripening! Walk so walk !! Since on Saturday I plan to pick up my multicooker in Yulmart, I will just try it !! And another debut: I did everything with Beloboka, tore my hands, and today I'm updating Teskomovskaya - I bought it back in the winter and was never able to get it out of the box
I weighed the meat, it turned out 1038 grams ... these, probably 38 grams did not fit, I had to push the already mixed ones into the freezer until the next sausage. I put 20 grams of salt and spices for sausage No. 1 + allspice, ground in a mortar + 100g. ice + 100gr. water
I sit and wonder at myself - there is no saucepan, what will I cover it with - I have no idea how it works, I can even less imagine ...
Masinen
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