Yulia Antipova
Irsha, Irina, no offense! You wrote, but I haven't read! I only graze in 10 topics, there is not enough vision for more)

And vapshche: fools (to me, that is) the law is not written, if written, then not read, if read, then not so
Quote: natalisha_31
Julia, I think it will work. I knead in a dough mixer at second speed for 15 minutes.
Quote: Irsha
already everywhere I wrote 100 - with mixing nozzles for dough - any minced meat is perfectly kneaded with spirals, even mulberry

Devulechki, thanks! If it works out, then I'll have to buy a ham maker)))
Natalia K.
Quote: Yulia Antipova
If it works out, I'll have to buy a ham maker
Yulia, I will definitely succeed. I resisted for two years. She said that I can do without a ham and I don't need it.
But the Ham Machine finished me off completely. And now I can't stop. Already cooked the second ham: girl_manikur: Vkuuusno
Svetlana_Ni
Masinen, Masha and I was honored for the ham. I sat dreaming about ham and here Masha with a recipe, a telepath directly Well, I did a business: 1) it turned out to be a bit fat 2) the package apparently broke, I did it in Belobok, when I opened the lid of the Shteba, there was a "broth" - no jelly inclusions 3) nitrite put 10 g of the rest of simple salt, read about European norms on nitrite, and I myself worry, you never know, pork after all. Today I'm testing myself, I ate 2 pieces, I'm waiting for what will happen. Ladies, congratulations, you have such a cool ham, I don’t show it yet, we need to redo it. Mashenka, thanks for the recipe. Here it is not clear to me from nitrite what is the optimal amount, so as not to harm health and protect against infection. Who knows what, please share.
Jenealis
I’ll sit and hear about nitrite. Can children have such a ham or not risk it better? And we don't want to be overloaded ourselves, because that's why we don't buy any sausage for the fifth year at all ...
Masinen
Girls, I also wrote on nitrite in the recipe itself!
We look at the sodium nitrite content in our salt. In mine it is 0.6 percent, the rest is ordinary table salt.
The higher the percentage, the less it should be put on 1 kg of meat!
All)
We look at the instructions for your salt !!!
Svetlana_Ni
Quote: Masinen
We look at the instructions for your salt !!!
Masha , yes, I understand that there is an instruction, but there probably indicate the maximum possible number. I bought 100 g by weight and it says the dosage is similar to ordinary salt when salting meat, I have 0.6%. In general, I'm talking about the generally accepted practice of using nitrite, about the minimum possible amount of this salt, and not about the instructions.
Jenealis, I found a discussion of nitrite on our forum https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...=com_smf&topic=390202.100 Read it if you're interested.
gala10
I'm also very interested in nitrite salt.
Natalia K.
Quote: gala10
I'm also very interested in nitrite salt.
Me too
Masinen
Svetlana, it is necessary to put the norm, and not more or less.
If less, what is the point? the process will not happen. And if you put more, it is already harmful.
Here for 0.6 we put 20 grams (but generally up to 30 grams is needed)
BUT FOR MYSELF I WITHDRAWED EXACTLY 20 GR)
kolobok123
Mashenka, I'm reporting, I'm doing the third run of ham, 4 kg of 4 Teskomovsky forms.
the one that was kneaded for an hour (remember, I wrote)))))) it turned out super-duper, it was cut thinly and was dense. That's what you need.
Now I made 2 kg with sweet paprika with cardamom and two with I don’t know what else. Kesha is kneading now I don't know what to add.
can you advise?
The only thing I do not take pictures from the word at all.
Masinen
Natasha, can I put pistachios? they also sound great in ham)
Svetlana62
Quote: Irsha

already everywhere I 100 wrote - with mixing nozzles for dough - spirals any minced meat is perfectly mixed, even mulberries
Girls, Irina, Masha, both of you have mixers with a capacity of 450 watts, they will procrastinate. And if 350 watts, it won't burn? I want to buy to knead when I have a day off and my husband is at work. But 450 watts per 1000 rubles. more expensive than 350 watts. I don't want to overpay.
Svetlana62
Girls, I have no nitrite salt. I put 1 tbsp. spoon without a slide of coarse salt and immediately cook after kneading, only set the temperature to 80 degrees. The ham was kept in the refrigerator for 5 days, then it ended. The color is not as pink as that of the Machine, but the taste is wonderful. And with the unpoured broth we liked it more, it turned out more tender.
Irgata
Quote: Svetlana62
But 450 watts per 1000 rubles. more expensive than 350 watts. I don't want to overpay.
this is not an overpayment, but a severe need for 300-350, I think it will also work, not 10 kg should be mixed, but our kilogram will interfere, well, with stops, if it heats up, here the Boshik does not heat up
Masinen
Quote: Irsha
here Boshik is not heated

Yes, Boshki is good!
But I knead Kesha)
Irgata
all mixers will break down, boom, think for old age, I will adapt to poop the hands-free
Antonovka
Masinen,
Mash, how big should you cut the pork? I bought a ham, there was no scapula and Frying - it had already been somehow cut into long pieces. Now I don’t know how to chop the ham, and the Fry also needs to be cut in half, perhaps. What do you recommend?
Svetlana62
Quote: Irsha

this is not an overpayment, but a severe need for 300-350, I think it will also work, not 10 kg should be mixed, but our kilogram will interfere, well, with stops, if it heats up, here the Boshik does not heat up
Irish, here is Boshik and choose. Wanted 3532, no, stopped at 3520, but it's 350 watts. And at 450 watts 36440, but I like it less, China versus Slovenia, and 4020 is more expensive by 1000 rubles, and also does not look shiny. Thanks for the help! So, we must still take 3520, since it will mix.
Masinen
Lena, I didn't cut the frying at all. Pieces, well, about three cm side.
Watch the video, you can see it. The main thing is not to be small, otherwise it will not come out.
Antonovka
Masinen,
Thank you, Masha! I missed the video behind the pictures))
Irgata
Quote: Masinen
I didn't cut the roast at all. Pieces, well, about three cm side.
and I also often take ready-made frying - do not cut it at home, everything is already bitten, I quickly mixed and matured, I like frying because there is not a lot of fat, but quite enough.
A-liona
girls, does anyone have Beloboka? how did you do it?
Svetlana_Ni
Quote: A-liona
girls, does anyone have Beloboka? how did you do it?
I have Belobok. All the same, only first in a bag and for maturation.
ksyusha1997
Svetlana62, Svetlana, do you have a bread machine? I am wonderful with her help kneading the second year and in Teskom's ham maker I do it, everything turns out great. And here I have not already described this method, girls also interfere with HP.
Venera007
ksyusha1997, yes, yes, I confirm. I'm stirring in the bread maker, I've done it twice, I'm happy with the result, I will continue to knead in it, and I don't need any extra. to buy devices, the kitchen is already small and there is no extra space for a long time, I have already taken everything)))
Masinen
And I just put another ham

mine demanded again, they said that either ham or life

There was good meat in stock)
True, I also added chicken thighs there. Came out of the three components pork shoulder, roast and thighs)
Andreevna
Quote: Masinen
And I just put another ham
Masha, and mine was just boiled, they also asked for it. And I myself am not against such a ham. I do everything according to your recipe, only cook in a saucepan.
Venera007
Generally, Masinen, all of us and our family got hooked on homemade ham)))) and it's great! The current meat quickly began to run out at home))
Masinen
Quote: Venera007
hooked on homemade ham))))

Well, I tried)

Quote: Venera007
The current meat quickly began to run out at home))
And I have
Svetlana62
ksyusha1997, Oksana
Venera007, Tatyana
Thank you girls! There was no bread maker, yesterday we bought a baby Energy 234 for a test for a loaf of 450 grams. Now I bake the first bread in it.I'll try to knead the ham next time. Probably, you will have to divide it in two steps, since the bucket is small, but that's okay, I think. Thanks for the tip. If it works out, I won't buy a mixer.
gala10
Quote: natalisha_31
this is what Masha called the roast
I'm embarrassed to say, but where is the roast?
Irgata

Pork ham (Steba pressure cooker)

Quote: gala10
and where is the roast there?
roasting - this is what the store calls it, ready-to-roast, cut into 1 * 1 * 3 cubes from beef and pork meat
Lana_65
Checkmark, this is a semi-finished pork meat product, most often already packaged pieces of fatty meat called "Frying" or "Roasting"
Natalia K.
Quote: gala10
and where is the roast there?
Gala roast is sold in the store ready-made. This meat is cut into pieces with fat.
gala10
Irina, Svetlana, now I understand, thanks!
Masinen
gala10, Gal, actually writes about Tea Pot, Roast and Roast in the recipe itself))


Damn, die here over you)

And my computer came up with the infusion
gala10
Quote: Masinen
Damn, die here over you)
That's good! They laughed, the mood became better, the food tastes better, the family is happy !!!
Lana_65
Quote: Masinen
the brew was invented by my computer
What a naughty he is - an entertainer however
Masinen
Galina, yeah))
Svetlana, you need to cut his hands off, otherwise he corrects this for me, which is just ashamed)
I read the post 10 times before sending)
Lana_65
Quote: Masinen
Svetlana, I need to cut his hands off, otherwise she fixes this for me, which is just ashamed)
Just a little straight and immediately tear off your hands ... and kiss? (C)
Masinen
Quote: Lana_65
and kiss? (c)
I love him, I have him good, he only wants to be smarter than me
Vasilica
Quote: Masinen

Svetlana, I need to cut his hands off, otherwise he corrects this for me, which is just ashamed)

So you and him pick up disable this feature
A-liona
girls, well, you can in more detail about white-sided. As long as there is water to pour? I realized that the meat should be in a bag. I bought the meat, there is no nitrite salt. And, if not in the Shteba, but in the oven, then how? There is belobok, but there is no ham)))))))))))
Masinen
Alyona, put it in a bowl and pour it so that Belobok itself is covered with water.
A-liona
Masha, what if in the oven?
about salt. If ordinary, then you don't need to endure?
Masinen
Alyona, hold the night and need more. In the oven also, 75 g and stick a thermometer in it and look, when there is 72 g inside, then the ham is ready)
A-liona
Masha, thank you)
Masinen
Brought you my mix of ham)
Pork ham (Steba pressure cooker)Pork ham (Steba pressure cooker)Pork ham (Steba pressure cooker)

I didn't drain the boll, in the morning it turned out jelly))
francevna
Maria, I would have eaten a piece, it looks very appetizing.
Masinen
Alla, but delicious!
I pulled it out early in the morning, cut the child to school, my husband asked for himself and half is gone)
still have to do

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