Ivan-tea "Fluffy" (from immature seed bolls)

Well, that tea is brewed


Ivan tea, ratio of leaves and seeds 1: 1, drying without cloth 15 hours, fermentation 10 hours, drying with frying. The taste and smell from the feet is stunning.

Good day everyone! and I am with a report. Yesterday I gained 2.3 kg of seed pods, this wealth was withering overnight. I didn't twist it twice, I took a lattice with an average size of holes. Now the tea has been fermented for about 6 hours. The temperature in the container is 5-6 degrees higher than in the apartment. The color has changed from dirty gray to bright brown. There is no particularly pleasant smell. The husband assures that the whole thing is in the climate, the region where fireweed grows, for example, apples in central Russia are much more aromatic than Siberian apples. I ask the tea-makers of eastern siberia to respond and share their experience.

[Anyuta]

Yes, I don’t mind wherever I can find time, I would not leave you. You understand, a construction site ...

Anyuta, I will do everything, and you will dry it in the oven. But for some reason it turns out black! Although the taste and aroma suit me anyway. Today I walked around the bags all day, the smell is so cool!
Veronica, oh, well, you must! even the Internet was wound up for a photo. that's what it means, Fuzzy! I'm so glad I liked the tea. It means that we did everything right, no matter how Grachev tried to hide the technology.
Girls, I'm afraid I'll be left without Fuzzy myself. I almost gave everything to the guests. They were shocked by the tea. One comrade, a tea gourmet, could not believe that I was making tea myself. And everyone tried to explain to him how I do it. It was so funny to watch from the outside. In general, he drank, he drank ... And he said he wanted this tea. had to give. And the fireweed with terrible force begins to push. I should have time to make at least a couple more games.

[svetn]

Good day everyone! and I am with a report. Yesterday I gained 2.3 kg of seed pods, this wealth was withering overnight. I didn't twist it twice, I took a lattice with an average size of holes. Now the tea has been fermented for about 6 hours. The temperature in the container is 5-6 degrees higher than in the apartment. The color has changed from dirty gray to bright brown. There is no particularly pleasant smell.

svetn, Svetlana, read the recipe where I write that this tea did not delight me either before brewing ... But then ... It will still be there, you'll see!

[Lyudochka]

I just returned from the "hunt", brought two bags of leaves and seeds, put them to dry ...
Lyudochka, I'll come to you ... put the kettle on for tasting)))))

[Anyuta]

Anyuta, and I squeezed your tea ... They drank mine. Eh, I read your message late ... Yes .... well, I'll drink it myself! Girls, what tea Anya has! I can't do that! She's a thousand times better!

[Lyudochka]

Lyudochka, nice, of course, damn it, but don't slander yourself! You have a good smell, taste, and color of tea, only the color of the granules is different. But in our business, the main thing is not the color of the granules, but the soul of tea ... the taste, smell and inspiration that comes during tea drinking

[Ludmila]

Ludmila, I made tea, fragrant, hanging in a bag. Only I have nothing to compare with. This is my first fireweed tea. From the bouquet that I got, I threw out only the bare stems, everything is in business.
I made honey from flowers and here is Fuzzy, I liked it. First, the leaves wilted in the fabric, twisted in a meat grinder, fermented for 8 hours, in the morning I read this recipe and took out branches with boxes. During the night, in an open bag, they wither and I did not wait, scrolled the boxes, and then mixed the whole mass of fermented leaves and boxes, scrolled them together in a meat grinder, the granules turned out to be dense, fermented for 8 hours, it happened, dried in an airfryer. I will wait for it to mature.
I liked the first try.

[lappl1]

lappl1, Luda, thank you for taking the risk of putting the seed pods into action.
I made a mix of garden ones (raspberries, currants, cherries), added fireweed leaves and boxes, it's a pity there weren't many of them. The total raw material was about 1.7 kg.I twisted the granules twice, fermented them from 4.5 to 7 hours, the first ones were weak both in smell and in the color of tea, the others have not yet tried to brew, but the smell is stronger. Crimson was better, maybe because the first one? ..
Doubted about the electric grinder, she did it, but the pellets came out hot. This is not very good, as I understand it?
I watched one frying pan, it turned out straight, like Chinese ... forgot the name, with a smoke
And I left it for one more frying pan in the morning, for the sake of experiment ...

[marina-mm]

marina-mm, YaTatiana, girls, thanks for sharing information about your tea. Well, the experiments have already begun with the boxes. So we will overtake Grachev himself in varieties of tea.

Luda, thank you for taking the risk to put the seed pods into action.

Tanya, thank you for sharing this information with us. Otherwise, no one would even think about them.

Doubted about the electric grinder, she did it, but the pellets came out hot. This is not very good, as I understand it?

Tatyanaon the contrary, it's very good! I am always happy when the pellets come out warm from under the meat grinder. It will ferment more easily.

I watched one frying pan, it turned out straight, like Chinese ... forgot the name, with a smoke

We all have stories like this. you, most importantly, do not throw it away. You will see, the tea will be great.

I liked the first try.

Marina, it is most important. I am very glad that you succeeded.

[Anyuta]

nice, of course, damn it, but don't slander yourself! You have a good smell, taste, and color of tea, only the color of the granules is different.

Anyutauntil I figure out what the matter is, I will not calm down. By the way, the color of the granules also affects the taste and aroma of tea. I noticed that your dry tea is more aromatic than mine. I also want to achieve this. And, most importantly, to understand the essence ... I must know everything about the theory. And here I ran into confusion ... If only there were boxes. otherwise they are already pushing like that.

I wanted this morning (while my husband was in town) to rush into the fields again, but after today's night thunderstorm everything is wet and there is no light ... only frustration. So I don't want to manually get it out after the electric meat grinder. Well at least there is a charge on the laptop.

Yesterday we collected boxes, bought another meat grinder for this occasion, this time Axion 31.01. Today I twisted and set several types of tea to ferment:
1. Just boxes, twisted in a meat grinder 1 time. They waited for me to scroll through the others, so after about 3 hours I set them to dry at 100 degrees for 1 hour and 40 degrees for 1 hour. I immediately brewed the dried tea. The color of the granules is very light. The color of the brewed tea within 5 minutes is yellowish honey. Taste: at the first sip, a clear bitterness is felt, but then the taste and honeyiness inherent in fireweed appears. There is also a slight shade of a bath broom in the aroma and in the taste, but then this shade is somehow leveled and disappears. I do not like any herbal infusions, and I would not drink tea with a herbal taste. It doesn't look like a decoction of herbs here. Quite a pleasant drink to try. I did not notice something unusual and new. True, there is an astringent taste and some astringency, which is minimal in my leafy fireweed tea. It is noticeable that there is mucus in the tea, this is normal, it does not affect the taste, but it gives some "density" to the infusion. The presence of mucus will have a positive effect on the mucous membrane of the gastrointestinal tract, especially those with inflammation, as this infusion will gently envelop and protect the mucous membrane, and tannins will have a local anti-inflammatory effect, "bitterness" will help improve the outflow of bile from the gallbladder, in children it can improve appetite. I made very little of this tea, 20 grams.

The husband said that the tea tasted a little like ordinary green, and it turned out to be quite pleasant when tasting. If you strongly stick your nose into the dried granules, it smells like a broom. The granules are very light, almost weightless. By the way, it was brewed 3 times. Mucus is present in all portions.Especially noticeable is the presence of mucus in the immediate vicinity of the brewing granules (I have a special transparent glass teapot, even a larger mug for steaming herbs, I bought it on iherb, you can see everything).

2. boxes, rolled 1 time + fireweed leaves 1: 1, from the freezer, rolled separately. Then she mixed everything up and played it again. Are still fermented. Of course, the secondary scrolling resulted in denser granules.

3. I scrolled the boxes 1 time. Then she took out the strawberry leaves. Spun it like this: a pinch of already twisted boxes + a pinch of leaves, etc. Fermented. The ratio is approximately 85% bolls, 15% leaves.

4. Some boxes, scrolled 1 time. Fermented.

Live meat grinder. The children are happy, they played, feeding the meat grinder with green food.

[Ludmila]

Ludmila, congratulations on your assistant. I want to ask everything in which area you live and I forget.

[musyanya]

musyanya, very curious, write your feelings about the fermented boxes and these today. Interested in taste. Well, the color too. For color next time, I will add apple leaves.

Hello everybody! Educate a newbie. I dried the boxes, ran them through a meat grinder, into a saucepan, covered them with a damp cloth. It stood for 15 hours, but I did not notice any changes in the temperature inside. As a result, did the fermentation take place or not? Fruit smell. was not, and some not understandable, but not hay.

[Medunika]

It stood for 15 hours, but I did not notice any changes in temperature inside. As a result, did the fermentation take place or not? Fruit smell. was not, and some not understandable, but not hay.

Medunika.15 hours is a lot for granulated tea. The mass is warmed up in the first 3 - 4 hours, when active fermentation is in progress. Then the fermentation decreases and the temperature of the mass decreases. In principle, this is the signal for its end.
The recipe does not say that there is a fruit smell from the boxes. It appears later only in brewed tea.

[Loksa]

For color next time, I will add apple leaves.

Loksa, Oksanawhy an apple tree? Add fireweed and you will have a dark color.

[musyanya]

musyanya, Luda, thank you very much for sharing your experiments. it was very interesting to read.
I was confused by the presence of mucus in the brewed tea. Neither I nor Anyuta have it. I've already made 2 batches of tea. and Anyuta too. All tea is transparent.
And the light color of the brewed tea also confuses. In my photos you can see what a dark infusion turned out. Moreover, it does not matter whether fermented or not, dried at low temperature or high. The color is always so dark that I myself still cannot understand why such a dark tea is obtained from such light granules.
In general, I am sure that this tea will open from a new side for us in winter. After all, any tea needs time. This - including.

[Medunika]

Medunika15 hours is a lot for granulated tea. The mass is warmed up in the first 3 - 4 hours, when active fermentation is in progress. Then the fermentation decreases and the temperature of the mass decreases. In principle, this is the signal for its end.
The recipe does not say that there is a fruit smell from the boxes. It appears later only in brewed tea.
Thanks for the answer. Somewhere I didn't think something up. And from this 15-hour tea, will it be or all down the drain?

[Medunika]

And from this 15-hour tea, will it be or all down the drain?

Medunika, 15 hours, of course a bit too much, but the quality of tea cannot be judged before drying. Of course there will be tea, but this is the question. In any case, it's too early to talk about it, first you need to dry and brew. And he can fully open up only in a month. Lyudmila correctly said that color and smell (especially before drying) do not always reflect the fullness and beauty of tea.

The second batch of tea is dried, dried for almost 1.5 days, spun two (!) Times, fermented for 6 hours. There is no such stupefying smell as the first time. But it smells great.

There is no such stupefying smell as the first time. But it smells great.

It also seems to me that the first game was simply unforgettable. Although the last two are super. As the son says: "Mom is kryshesnos"

I got a lighter tea, I had to add apple leaves. But I liked the taste itself. Finally there was a taste of tea, not strong tea. Perhaps you need to put more tea leaves. Dried without frying and without fermentation. I'll try to make a fermented one. But if the taste is softer, I will choose this method. A little fermentation is still present while spinning and stacking. Drying was not going well, dryer in two stages.

[Oksana]

Oksana, why apple leaves? Add fireweed. And the color will be, and the taste of the boxes will remain.

Well, I can't stop in time! I went, brought 2 kg of leaves, very good ones were caught on the former arable land, and 1.5 kg of boxes. The next step is the thickets behind the fence near the forest. There is also a fireweed that has not bloomed yet. At the edge of about 15 sq. m of solid fireweed with capsules and good leaves. They are waiting for me. Tomorrow I will pour the finished one. But so far I liked it more with leaves. By the way, he is not as black as Ani's, but darker than Luda's. Maybe, too, put on 200 first?

[Veronica]

Veronica, the main thing is that it is tasty and healthy. When brewed, it is still a dark color.

[Medunika]

And from this 15-hour tea, will it be or all down the drain?

Medunika, of course it will be! Any of our tea in a month or two becomes much better. It's just that your tea will be slightly different. Dry it in a bag, pour it into a jar, put it in a dark place. By the fall you will not recognize your own tea ...
In general, any tea has 3 levels of fermentation - light, medium and deep. I do different things. And I still don't understand which one I love more. You must decide for yourself which tea is best for you. In the traditional Ivan tea recipe, I described these degrees of fermentation. you can read it if you haven't seen it yet.

[Lenusik]

The second batch of tea is dried, dried for almost 1.5 days, spun two (!) Times, fermented for 6 hours. There is no such stupefying smell as the first time. But it smells great.

Lenusik, but you know that tea will still show itself. And there will be aroma and taste! Or maybe some unforeseen circumstances intervened like rain or, conversely, heat. So the smell has changed.

I got a lighter tea, I had to add apple leaves.

Loksa, Oksana, yes, you have something light ... Don't add an apple. add fireweed. In general, you need to figure out why you made such a light tea.

Well, I can't stop in time!

Veronicek, yes, it is very difficult! Today a thunderstorm drove me out of the meadow. I barely managed to run to the house when the end of the world began in the literal sense of the word - rain, hail, wind, thunder, lightning, darkness ..... But I managed to pick up a kilogram of boxes ..

[lappl1]

lappl1, dry fluffy. The smell is not very, one might say not pleasant. The smell was very strong during fermentation ... but I can't describe it either. Fermented for 20 hours. Failed less, there was a lot of raw materials, twisted until 2 am, and there were guests. In general, at the wrong time, I started making tea. I don't know, maybe it looks like the smell of delight. The mass in the buckets is still warm. Most likely I ruined the tea. And the raw material was 7 kg. Probably have to throw everything away Now it came to mind, it may look like the smell of rye sourdough, in general, something is not right.

[Tata]

Tata, all that !!! Dry tea from boxes has the smell of exactly something bread. You have chosen the right word. So you don't need to throw anything away. I also did not like the smell of dried tea, but in the brewed form it turned out great - both the smell and the taste.
And the rotten smell of tea comes from over-fermentation. 20 hours is a lot for this tea. Well, you yourself understand everything. But don't get upset ahead of time. Dry, ventilate, and store. Tea will still show itself

raw material was 7 kg.

Yes ... This amount of raw materials is a lot! How many times have all the girls convinced that a lot of raw materials is not very good. Tea is obtained in different fermentation. can't find a better one.Now I have set it to dry for 5 hours. and before that, it dried in the first run for 3 hours. And now at 5 o'clock I already feel the charm. But I have no choice. I have a mini oven. You can't dry much in it. So you have to sacrifice quality.
Tata, it would be better if you kept the boxes in the refrigerator and made them gradually over the course of a week.
In general, do not be discouraged, It will still fix on dry fermentation.

[Veronica]

Maybe, too, put on 200 first?

Veronica, put ... It did not help!

[Ludmila]

Ludmila, Yes Yes. Smells like brown bread baked. But I have not yet dried a lot, that there will be fermentation for 36 hours. Probably I will dry some, and throw away some. Maybe the weather will still be dry, I'll dial.

[Tata]

Tata, don't throw anything away! It happens that they ferment for 3 days. You can always throw it away.

[Anyuta73]

Anyuta73, the taste is rather strange, I have to give someone a try, it's hard for me to determine alone. Honey rather. There is little tea in the cup, and the color is like that of medium strength tea. I'll brew it again, and this cake from the grill grill and sides, etc., brewed it still warm.
I chose the apple tree for its neutral aroma and reddish color. But I will think about it later. Luda, yours is not fermented, too, without frying (as I remember), and my color is straw? Everything is simple for me: withering - 20 hours, then twisting and drying: 2 hours for maxi, then 1 hour for min. tempera. But it was wet, and in order not to sour, I dried it for an hour in the morning and went to work. Dried at an average temperature for 2 hours + ~ -. And brewing in a thermos is different from brewing in a mug.

[Oksana]

Luda, yours is not fermented, too, without frying (as I remember), and my color is straw?

Oksana, not fermented, dried in a dryer at 50 *.

drying: 2 hours at maxi, then 1 hour min. tempera. But it was wet, and in order not to sour, I dried it for an hour in the morning and went to work. Dried at an average temperature for 2 hours + ~ -.

Oksan, in my dryer the tea dries very quickly - in 1.5 hours on 4 trays. Does it take a long time for you to dry? And why is it wet after 3 hours of drying? Have you dried the boxes?

And brewing in a thermos is different from brewing in a mug.

By the way, the fermented tea in my recipe in the photo was also brewed in a mug for 20 minutes (under the lid). But also dark ...

[Lyudochka,]

Lyudochka, I wilted: I picked it on Saturday evening, and twisted it on Sunday evening, it turned out 20 hours of drying. I noticed that everything is "more vigorous" in our country, in order to wither a leaf normally, it takes more than a day (2-3 cm layer), if not spread out on a leaf. Once, as I already wrote, it dried out for more than 30 hours, and only then did it become like "rags" and in some places it began to dry out. In some places, this is less than 10 percent, somewhere along the contour of the leaf, drying began, and this is only along the edge of a layer of leaves. Also with the pods, they lost moisture, but perhaps they had to be held for 30 hours, keep in mind that it will rain in a day or two. You know, like a tomato in the South and in the North.
At the expense of withering, you can deduce the formula: weigh the raw materials before and after withering, I did not weigh, to be honest. The recipe contains all this, the percentage loss of moisture during withering and during drying, I did not think of it, I had to take one handful and weigh it before and after drying. Next time I will. Lyudochka, I liked the tea! And very. Let's see what others write.
And also about drying: my pallets are lined with parchment so that the dust does not fall. And I noticed that the two trays dried out faster, I will change the parchment. I dried basil tonight, using the recommended mode for herb, did not dry out in 6 hours! That is why I asked earlier if it is possible to dry on a minimum salary at night, as if it was windy weather outside. It dries out in this mode: 1 hour at max and 5 hours at 30 degrees. Layer 1cm, maybe 1.5cm.

Today I've been drying tea boxes all night. And I continue to dry the rest ..
The one that boxes + leaves (1 batch with strawberry leaves, the second only boxes + fireweed leaves) - smells the best.The smell is average between honey, sweets, tutifruti (such caramels were in the 90s, right now, I don’t know if there are such and whether they smell like that), gingerbread and caramel. When you enter a room where tea is being dried, the smell of sweets and caramel immediately rushes into your nose. And then it seems like honey and gingerbread. Which are just fermented boxes, without anything, they smell very pale, some kind of sweetness, maybe even remotely honey. We tasted boxes + strawberry leaves. There is no taste and smell of a bath broom, it is somewhat reminiscent of white tea, but with a honey tint. Probably I'm a fan of leaf tea, it seems to me the best, especially since out of 13 kg it is all leaf tea and is made by hand and only 400g is ground in a meat grinder. When the boxes were fermented, they got very hot, at first this was not noticeable at all, they lay like inanimate. And then it started. Therefore, I began to dry the tea at night, so as not to overstay too much.
I would like to try boxes + currant leaves or berries and boxes + gooseberries. I made a little leafy one with berries (I chopped the berries and mixed them with green mass - everything was fermented together) - the smell is very pleasant and the taste is noticeably different.

[lappl1]

lappl1, Lyudochka. Wanted to ask. Yesterday I collected leaves and boxes for "fluffy". Everything is dry. Some boxes opened. There is fluff (a little). Do I need to choose it all or can I twist it with it? We got started very quickly. The day before yesterday I read the recipe, there were normal boxes (I collected the leaves the day before), and yesterday I went for a new batch, and there are not enough boxes. I collected it, but even then, while I drove it, while it is dried, some started running. Can?

[Oksanchik]

Lyudochka, I liked the tea! And very. Let's see what others write.

Oksanchik, with this it was necessary to start! It is most important. otherwise I was upset for you ...

At the expense of withering, you can deduce the formula: weigh the raw materials before and after withering, I did not weigh, to be honest. The recipe contains all this, the percentage loss of moisture during withering and during drying, I did not think of it, I had to take one handful and weigh it before and after drying. Next time I will.

Oksan, but not necessarily so scrupulous. Although the approach is very correct. So you can't go wrong. By the way, I overwhelmed the last batch of boxes (forcedly - there was no light). So I liked this tea the most. More aromatic.

Once, as I already wrote, it dried out for more than 30 hours, and only then did it become like "rags" and in some places it began to dry out.

Oksan, lately I have dried leaves only in fabric. It is necessary, however, to "change clothes" once more - to change a wet cloth to a dry one. So I like it! The leaves do not dry out, are soft, easier to process. And they are guaranteed to dry up without endless tedding approaches. You wrote that you do that too. We must also try to dry the boxes in the fabric. Although there are no problems with them - I practically do not stir them up, since they lie very loosely and they all wither evenly.

That is why I asked earlier if it is possible to dry on a minimum salary at night, as if it was windy weather outside. It dries out in this mode: 1 hour at max and 5 hours at 30 degrees. Layer 1cm, maybe 1.5cm.

Oksana, I didn't know that you were drying on paper. Then of course you can. I here tried to dry Anyutina's raspberries on paper (she did not bring a dryer from Moscow). Tortured - she does not dry. She removed the paper - it dried immediately. So you can dry it all night in that case.

[Guzel]

Some boxes opened. There is fluff (a little). Do I need to choose it all or can I twist it with it?

Guzel, you don't have to choose. In general, if you still collect, then tear not from the beginning of the peduncle, but higher. I'm tearing like that now. do not push, they have time to wither.

[musyanya]

musyanya, Lyudochka, you are so smart! So you write about tea and the process - it's a pleasure to read you. I am poisoned by your approach to tea - experimental! It should be so. Only in this way will you choose the best tea for yourself!

When the boxes were fermented, they got very hot, at first this was not noticeable at all, they lay like inanimate.

Yes, they have a decent warm-up. I took them to dry yesterday, but inside is almost hot.

averno I'm a fan of leaf tea, it seems to me the best, especially since out of 13 kg it is all leafy and made by hand and only 400g is ground in a meat grinder.

Luda, I've tried to make tea with a device for grinding leaves. I liked it so much !!!! But where is it to be stored? You can't fill up the cans.

[lappl1]

lappl1, Lyudochka, thanks. I got it! Yes, it seemed to tear the tops, but they still fluffed up. The very end of Vanka's season has come with us!

So I was drying my pussies this morning, so I also smelled the smell of freshly baked bread), which means I'm on the right track

[Galina Iv.]

Lyudochka, I also wither in the fabric, I have tails, so you can't just throw your nose in. I have 4 sheets in use, all the time. The taste of the bread, perhaps, seemed sour to me, and the bread smells like it.
Galina Iv., write your opinion later? OK?

[Loksa]

Loksa,

write your opinion later? OK?

yes I can and invite)), but not what to write.

[Galya, Oksana]

Galya, Oksana, brewed tea never smells like bread! By the way, the over-baked boxes gave a much less smell of bread. More honey and fruits. Now hanging in a bag. There is no bread smell at all. intoxicating smell of honey, flowers and fruits.

Today I had a holiday. My son-in-law and my daughter and I went on business and suddenly I saw a meadow of Ivan-tea. It shone in the sun with an extraordinary pink color. “Stop, let me out,” I shout to my son-in-law. He got scared, stopped, and I ran into the forest, to this clearing. And there, um ... Fireweed stood two meters high, clean with bright boxes and already fluffed up here and there. I’m only one and a half meters, so I was almost invisible in it We collected two packages of this wealth, so I’ll also give my Fuzzies a drink Thank you, Lyudmila and Anya, you make us happy

[Natalie]

Today I had a holiday.

Natalie, is that what a person needs for a holiday and happiness? Someone - love, someone - money, others - health. And we need a little - to meet with Ivanushka. And then - make a tea with joy and love. And then give your loved ones this useful tea to drink.
Natasha, such joy comes from your message. And I am sure that it will affect anyone who reads your lines.
Do, Natasha, a tea with joy for the health of your loved ones. I am very glad that you met with Ivanushka today.