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Yuri K
Nadyushich, I do not presume to argue, but I noticed this myself. The more veins there are in the sheet, the more likely it is to clog the auger, or rather the gap between the auger and the knife. From this plug, the auger itself clogs (ascendingly). Therefore, I try to at least cut the petioles from the leaf plates, which is still an infection.
Mandraik Ludmila
Podmosvichka, Helen, well, I would, like any flowers, in the dryer at the minimum temperature, if there is a possibility in the dryer without heating, but I have at least +35, nothing less
sweet_blondy
congratulate me! I, after a 2 or 3 week break, are back in service) I unloaded the freezer a little. composed 2 mixes. and everything would be fine, but an old cast-iron meat grinder with small holes in the grate ... after 10 minutes of working with this unit, my hand took off, the champion of manual meat grinders took over, that is, my husband got off twenty sweats from him, I looked at it all and I ran to lunch for repairs with an electric meat grinder. diagnosis - replace the knife and gear in the gearbox. it was necessary to see the face of the repairman when I explained why I twisted the leaves on it
In general, I'm waiting for a call, preparing money.
and I still scold myself for not picking up black alder leaves on the trip. I thought - well, what a black alder, it's probably gray. looked - the leaves are different.
Radushka
sweet_blondy, and dial, and then find out? Oh you ... a defective caterpillar)))
sweet_blondy
Radushka, in general, there was such an idea I will not hide, but I was distracted by water mint - I tore it up like an abnormal)) and then my brother began to whine that it was time to go home.
in general, my husband and I realized that we would not take him with us on trips anymore. on the mountain I collected thyme, my husband caught blacksmiths fishing, and on the river I collected mint, and my husband fished. but my brother had nothing to do. but I warned you - take the book with you just in case. in general, he slightly spoiled our weekend.
Nadyushich
Quote: Radushka
Oh you ... a defective caterpillar)))

Yuri K
Quote: Radushka
Oh you ... a defective caterpillar)))
This is a young stage, the first stage is I am grunting in a row, the second - I wonder, is it worth it ?, the third - I am so all refined - I take it only selectively. And then pupation is already underway - these are already old-timers!
Radushka
Yuri K,
Linadoc
Quote: Podmoskvichka
dry simply on a cloth or in a dryer
It is possible in the dryer, at T below 40 *, but then only for decoration, because the aroma leaves. And if you need to preserve the aroma, then in the breeze in a basket or in a mosquito net.
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Quote: Radushka
Oh you ... a defective caterpillar)))

Radushka, I also.
This year is without tea.
And I look at the leaves.
What's my stage, huh?
Radushka
Light, hungry stage)))
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hungry stage))
Radushka, about! How interesting
Yuri K
Light, pupa stages, they are
Likar Nadiya
And what is the stage when you put bags in your pockets when you leave the house? And it doesn't matter where you go.
Yuri K
Likar Nadiya, so this, itself, that neither is the primary stage When packages are in your pockets, and the look of a hungry caterpillar on any tops!
Radushka
Likar Nadiya, I went for two years with large bags in my bag. Collected on the way from work bottle. If it was a wearable size. I picked them out of the bugs. She wiped her hands with a special rag. And applied to an excellent rockery (rather big)
sweet_blondy
Yuri K,

Radushka, well, this is aerobatics

and closer to autumn I will begin to stare at the old discarded fences - I have long dreamed of building a photophone so that I can photograph my handicrafts. so - old worn fences are in trend now
Radushka
sweet_blondy, and what kind of work?
sweet_blondy
Radushka, I embroider with a cross and knit) and also on little things - I make boxes, I sew textiles for the house, nice little things - such as cosmetic bags, covers for notebooks. in general, everything is a little bit but embroidery and knitting are number one)
used to do all this all year round, now from November to May




a moment of humor - I leaf through the news feed and come across a photo ...
my thoughts - well, even this cow has a photo with Ivan-tea, but I have neither a photo nor the grass itself
Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class)
Likar Nadiya
Radushka, about rubble stone - this is familiar
Yuri K
Quote: sweet_blondy
even this cow has a photo with Ivan-tea, but I don't
How does this concern me
Likar Nadiya
Yuri K, I had a primary stage last year, collecting everything, everywhere and more)))) and this year - the stage of "whatWeSoCollect kusno "and naturally more))))




Small reports: cut strawberries - now goes to almost all mixes plus mono)
If we are going somewhere, to nature, to bets, then of course with packages and gatherings of raw materials))) we have a good place (though almost on the line of fire, a couple of kilometers to the line of hostilities, whether they are wrong), there you can bathe and you can collect the leaves. And from different sides the rate is different plants. Where we stand, there is a new gathering. Either blackthorn with wild strawberries, or wild pear with sage, it’s like a weed there))), goose with wild hawthorn, and also thyme in one place on the shore. And now I'll take a closer look, suddenly there is alder there)))
Katerinka
Today I decided to clean the freezer :) a lot of different leaves have already gathered, but I have a small one for new parties. It turned out two mixes, the second is still worth drying.
1. Geranium about 5% apple% 20-30 the rest is grapes. Meat grinder, fermentation for 3-4 hours. 1/3 fry at 180 10 min, 100 10 min and dry. Maybe someone did this? As a result? the scent evoked dubious emotions in me, a lot of sourness. I think it will be good to refresh in the heat. But I swore to evaluate the aromas right away, they change a lot even on dryness, but how does heaven and earth stand like that. I wanted to leave the geranium for another tea, but it seemed that this would be very light. It seems that Yuri said that geranium gives a beautiful color, so she decided to try it. But I have a garden geranium, not a wild big difference?




2: This is the most insane mix, option one. I will not even list what is there, a little bit of everything. Apparently there were a lot of flattery in the package, some did not change the color at all, although it froze several times. Therefore, in the morning I divided it into two and again in the freezer. So the tea will have varying degrees of fermentation. Fermentation between twisting 7 hours. In the evening, let's twist and feel the persistent smell of bird cherry, but there is none at all, what else can give such an aroma? The granules turned out to be excellent, dense do not crumble. 1/3 frying also 180; 100 and drying. While drying.
In the first one, by the way, I called it vin-yager, I began to name teas by the first letters of the plant and from larger to smaller, it amused me and stuck. Weak granules crumbled when stirring on the frying. Maybe because the second time I also twisted it on a large grate?




After, probably dogwood, or something else, I began to be afraid to put a small grate. Both times on a large, only the second time I remove the knife. And to change back and forth, in which case, it shook the time, and it is valuable for me. I try to do everything while the children are sleeping.
sweet_blondy
Linadoc, your recipes are like a knife to my heart. an inner voice repeats - here are how many recipes go by you because of a misconduct
Yuri K, but you have at least tea
Katerinka, for the first time on a large steep, the second on a shallow one. granules are much better!
Yuri K
Quote: sweet_blondy
but you have at least tea
So it’s crumbs, so, maybe try (a week). Basically, I put it into the mixes, like a mono half-liter jar




Quote: Katerinka
It seems that Yuri said that geranium gives a beautiful color, so she decided to try it. But I have a garden geranium, not a wild big difference?
Katerinka, this is not only I said, this is an established fact for a long time, and even the recipe exists with photographs
Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class)Fermented Geranium Meadow Leaf Tea (Mullah Herb)
(Zachary)

sweet_blondy
Can I tell you about my trip to the mountains? so want to share! just in case, I will clean it under the spoiler.

I'll probably start with the fact that all my life I've lived in Orenburg, which is a typical steppe zone. the internet is a great power! brother on some resource saw photographs of the Dolgi Mountains, which are in our region. After seeing them, I was so inspired by the idea of ​​visiting this place that it was decided to definitely go there! and finally this weekend all the cards were folded and we moved out. me, husband and brother. on the way we stopped to swim in the Sakmara river. here the first discovery awaited me - water mint along the coast. Needless to say that I ran to the car for the scissors in order to collect it properly?)
circled near the mountains for a long time. they even managed to wander into some kind of farm - a lonely hut between the hills and two corrals - with sheep and cows. there is no owner, the dog sits quietly and looks kindly in our direction. and the road ends right next to these buildings ... there are a lot of roads on the hills, but how to get on them is not clear, everywhere is a continuous field. it was decided to cross the dangerous mountain river in the form of a stream and look for an entrance to the visible road.
Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class)
driving through the hills in a Chevrolet Spark (something like Matiz), this is not for the faint of heart, I'll tell you)) I just didn't screech with fear. and then only because she is driving - you have to look where I am going. stones from under the wheels flew in all directions! reaching the nearest hollow place, I drowned out the car with the words - I will not go further.
in the meantime, it was already sunset.
Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class)
a pleasant warm breeze encouraged the walk. several hills were overcome. the view from above is simply mesmerizing! who lives in a mountainous area probably giggles, but for me it's all so new! I watched as bewitched as one hill smoothly flows into another. and underfoot, centuries-old rocks protrude and collapse ...
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the fire was made with a lot of precautions - after all, the wind, dead wood everywhere. followed the fire with three pairs of eyes. at dinner we realized that our company does not have enough people who can play the guitar)
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in the morning I realized that an evening walk was the right decision, because as soon as the sun rose from behind the mountains, it was so hot! just as luck would have it - it's cloudy and cool on weekdays, and under 40 on weekends)))
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There is nothing to do - since in the evening I discovered that thyme grows on the slopes, then putting on as much closed clothes as possible, I went to collect the coveted grass. Yuri, you said that it is difficult to collect it in the field? in the mountains it is not easier))) not only is it half-withered, but also the twigs are like wire! but nothing could stop my desire to collect it!
Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class)
I didn't want to leave. only the scorching sun, which was confidently moving towards the zenith, tried with all its might to drive us away. the brother gave up first, then the husband. I also had to agree that it was time to take my feet somewhere in the direction of the river)))
it is a pity that my camera does not convey all the beauty that I have observed during all this time. I would certainly like to go back there again and stay in a slightly different place, from where there will be a better view of the area. I will not guess, but still I really hope. if not to collect herbs, so at least take a walk and take pictures.
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on the way back we stopped at the nearest village and stopped by the river.
Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class)
the husband grabbed the fishing rod, the brother crawled into the shadows. and I ... and I walked along the coast with scissors and collected water mint))) in general there were big plans - to find St. John's wort and oregano, because I read that they grow in that area, but I was glad that there was.if it weren't for my stupidity, I would have returned with a few more bags of black alder ... but why should I scold myself (how much can that?))) but now I will know exactly what it looks like and next time I will not miss my luck)
P.S. The Long Mountains are the beginning of the Ural Mountains


and if on the subject, here is a small photo report on the herbal part of the trip - water mint and thyme. the latter, by the way, came out with a 3-liter jar tightly rammed. I went through right away on the spot, so upon arrival I sent everything to dry at once.
by the way, this thyme is very different in smell from what grows in my country house and what I bought from grandmothers in the market last year. in the mountain there are some lemon notes, a bit like lemon balm. Do I need to clarify that I took one bush with me? I planted it in my country house. know it will grow don't know no, but I had to try)))
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Yuri K
sweet_blondy, awesome, awesome, I envy not kindly!
Podmosvichka
I wonder if alyssum can be dried?
The aroma from the flower bed is awesome honey
Katerinka
sweet_blondy, I understand your feelings and emotions from the trip! It's great when there is an opportunity to travel. Is it far from you? I would put water mint somewhere in the shade, it is desirable that the drain goes out there, for example, or water abundantly, often.
francevna
sweet_blondy, Eugene, thanks for the story and photo report, it's interesting to read.
Linadoc
Quote: sweet_blondy
this thyme is very different in smell from what grows in my country house and what I bought from grandmothers in the market last year. there are some lemon notes in the mountain, a bit like lemon balm
Exactly! I'm not very thyme, but mountain with pleasure. He smells like a mixture of thyme, mint and sage. And it grows well in pots or along paths.
Mint in my dacha is planted in tires, grows well and does not creep.

Katerinka
Tavarizchi how to insert a photo?




My husband saw and scolded me, comrades!
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Katerinka, your own, you need to click the Preview button. Then - Insert the author's photo.
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Katerinka
I don’t remember what topic Yuri wrote about scent that does not change color after freezing. I'll post a photo here. This is a dogwood after 3-5 times freezingFermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class)
Likar Nadiya
Katerinka, yes, dogwood does not change color. Even after drying, greenish granules + dust.
Katerinka
Likar Nadiyaand how is the taste? I wonder if it was worth the effort or not? I haven't tried it yet.




And then how will it turn out with mulberry. At first, nothing at all, but there was an unpleasant taste, I gave both options to my mother-in-law, she liked it. But he infused and the tasty dust does not scare me, I still brew in a thermos, and there the granules disintegrate.




Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class)Raspberries mono, dried in jars for a day, once frozen, fermentation from 2-6 hours, without frying. Yes there are no granules, but the taste
Olga VB
Brothers, I just crossed the threshold a little alive, but with packets of leaves
I don't ask about Ivanushka, everything seems to be clear and tested there.
But rustic ....
There are leaves of apple, currant, raspberry and cherry.
Unfortunately, I didn't find the answers to my question in the table of contents, but something urgently needs to be addressed.
I’ll use a meat grinder, but now they are either dying or dying in a polyet. packages.
Questions.
Do we have tested proportions of these particular leaves? Or is it better to do all 4 separately?
The leaves of the apple tree were collected the most beautiful days ago, they were kept all this time in an open plastic bag in the heat (like others). All the leaves are beautiful, and the apple leaves in places have become brownish, like rusty. Apparently, they got infected and others infected. Throw away all the apple trees now, or sort out and throw away only the brown ones, and will others still fit for tea?
Will it be of any use if I recycle them tomorrow (2 days after collection it will turn out in bags - I will break them, but there is nowhere to decompose them), or lie down with bones now?
I scrolled through the topic diagonally, but either I don't understand anything, or there are no such answers. I didn't find it in the table of contents.
Shl. In the refrigerator, incl.in the freezer, even nowhere to blow, let alone put something
elena88
Quote: Linadoc
It is necessary to climb the mountains, to mountain monasteries, to the Grand Canyon and generally around Bakhchisarai. And to look for alder along the rivers, and lavender, sage, oregano, thyme and mint in mountain meadows and fields
Thanks for the answer. Apparently, it's not my destiny to acquire exotic perfumes.

And I decided to start directly with tea making. Made raspberry + rose 1: 1. I kept the rose petals in the freezer, but did not temper. And she defrosted raspberries 3 times. Granules can be called with a very big stretch. When it was drying there was a funky smell of a rose. Raspberry did not catch. It doesn't smell like anything now. I'll hang it on the street tomorrow. Let it come to a condition.
And also apple + cherry + garden strawberry + red currant - 2: 2: 2: 1. When dried, the apple tree smelled insanely good, and the strawberries were not bad either. The currant, of course, did not smell of anything. But I picked it up before I clarified what kind of currants we are talking about on the forum. It was a pity to throw it away, I added for mass. I defrosted everything three times. Grinding on a coarse mesh with great difficulty. Granules are purely symbolic. The second time to grind and did not work at all: the mass became like plasticine and completely clogged the auger. I had to leave it as it is. Dry with frying. Both during grinding and during drying, the mass simply smelled of grass. Now it smells like hay. Fermentation did not improve the aroma. So far disappointed. Let's try it in winter.
Radushka
Olga VB, In the warmth? you just started fermentation a long time ago. There is no infection there. It was necessary at least to swaddle in sheets. Two days in the warmth is a lot. I've never had this, so I have no experience
ANY proportions for mixed teas. Except for one rule - I have no more than 5% cherries. And then ... I can hear it even in the amount of 1%




elena88, I have a cherry, almost like a cherry, clogs everything with its aroma. Maybe something was wrong during the fermentation process? Temperature, layer thickness, how long has elapsed from the beginning of twisting to the beginning / end of drying?
Yuri K
Quote: Olga VB
and now they are either dying or dying in the polyethics. packages. Will there be any sense if I recycle them tomorrow (2 days after collection it will turn out in packages - I will break them, but there is nowhere to decompose)
It is unfortunate .... Firstly, the withering stage was excluded from the general process. Secondly, your leaves will simply be cooked in bags, there is no fermentation there as such when the bags are open and when oxygen is available.
elena88
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elena88, I have a cherry, almost like a cherry, clogs everything with its aroma. Maybe something was wrong during the fermentation process? Temperature, layer thickness, how long has elapsed from the beginning of twisting to the beginning / end of drying?
I don't know, I seem to have followed everything. The twisting began as soon as the raw material was thawed. I twisted it for a long time, because the meat grinder was manual. About an hour, probably. It was hot in the kitchen - about +31. Then I stood in the bedroom under the air conditioner for two hours. Temperature +23. But the smell did not change for the better or for the worse. The layer thickness is about 10 cm. This is how it began to smell like grass during twisting, and it remained unchanged all the time. By the way, raspberry + rose is also interesting. I read here about a wonderful raspberry smell. I asked a neighbor for leaves. She has three varieties of raspberries. Well, I think there will be a smell! And she's not. When wilted, she did not surprise me with anything: the smell of grafted foliage. And when scrolling, fermentation, drying the same thing. The rose smelled all the time, but the raspberries did not.
Yuri K
Quote: elena88
I read here about a wonderful raspberry smell. I asked a neighbor for leaves. She has three varieties of raspberries. Well, I think there will be a smell! And she's not. When wilted, she did not surprise me with anything: the smell of grafted foliage.
Exactly the same sensations were, which surprised me greatly, despite the fact that I generally had wild raspberries. Fortunately, in prefabricated mixes, raspberries do not stand out, they do not smell a bit like any jam, I am disappointed.
Radushka
elena88, I have all the raspberries smell strong and tasty even when withering in a twist. And mine, and from the village, and neighbors, and forest. WITHOUT EXCEPTION
However, like cherry and cherry. Not a single garden mix ever had the smell of hay-bath-broom-grass and the like ...
In my first season, something was wrong with strawberries-mono. I washed and dried it, but, probably, all the necessary bacteria were washed off and the tea had a fishy smell. Then, however, he corrected himself. I also didn’t like the white plum. But, since the other variety turned out great, most likely it's the variety
elena88
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Exactly the same sensations were, which surprised me greatly, despite the fact that I generally had wild raspberries. Fortunately, in prefabricated mixes, raspberries do not stand out, they do not smell a bit like any jam, I am disappointed.
Oh, I'm not the only one. And then I really think I have something with my hands, or with my nose?
Linadoc
Quote: Yuri K
does not smell of any kind of jam, disappointed.
How strange! In my stewed raspberry-alder tea, raspberries even hammered alder, despite the fact that it was half as much. Maybe it depends on the leaves? I just try to take young, light green. Dark green, old, do not take. I do not wither for long, maybe 3-4 hours. And then I almost always do it according to Zakhar. And the aroma is immediately felt even in mixes.
Yuri K
Linadoc, I honestly don't know what to say. Collected wild, in the forest, in a sunny meadow, quite far from the settlements. Also, the apical leaves were mostly tore. Even when collected, it did not have a particularly different aroma. I even thought, how can that be ??? I pass absolutely everything through hardening, even mint herbs. By the way, I didn't see the huge ovaries in these bushes at all, the tops are beautiful and that's all. Sadovaya and that smells fragrant, it is immediately clear that raspberries, but here it is ... Well, put it together, is it a joke to go to distant lands and not take the opportunity (this is when there was a sortie for fireweed)? The second time I wouldn't collect it for sure.

P.S \ noticed that those who beautifully describe raspberries are tormenting them. I did it according to the usual scenario: withering, hardening, twisting, fermentation, drying.
elena88
And my three varieties of raspberry leaves did not give any aroma. The rose is heard, but the raspberry is not
Olga VB
Thanks to everyone who responded!
Unfortunately, I can’t follow any advice like "should have been", and I could not have done it before.
Quote: Linadoc
raspberries even hammered alder, despite the fact that it was half as much. Maybe it depends on the leaves? I just try to take young, light green. Dark green, old, do not take. I do not wither for long, maybe 3-4 hours. And then I almost always do it in Zakhar's way
Linochka, what about Zakhar?
I have been soaring raspberries for 10 hours in MV at 60 * C, - the smell from there is very pleasant, but not sharply crimson, but as if floral with a raspberry tint. I’ll do it soon. Or something else needs to be done?
Radushka
Olga VB, according to Zachariah, they are prepared for normal fermentation (frozen-thawed, frozen-thawed, and so on several times). And for steamed tea you don't need to cook like that

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