Electric grills contact Steba

Yes, I agree that oil is better.
But the grill was bought precisely in order to cook without oil. In my case, this did not work out without consequences.
Probably, if I lubricated with oil, there would not be such a sad result.
And although the bottom plate has not peeled off, it is still no longer possible to cook on it.

I added one more point to my previous post. Try to wash the old solid fat off the plates. Just do it in several approaches, trying to soften and remove polymerized plaque by soaking the plates in a soda paste, for example. And cook with butter now. Maybe the grill will also serve you.

[panterabagira]

panterabagira, and what do they write in the instructions about the oil? I watched all the available videos on Steba's grills - nowhere are the plates preliminarily oiled, everything is put on a dry surface. In any case, expertise is needed, perhaps you came across a Chinese copy (they wrote here that this happens)

The grill plates have a non-stick coating, good, high quality, but it can also be killed quickly.
The grill is more stressful than any non-stick pan. There are general rules for using cookware with such a coating.

And cook with butter now. Maybe the grill will also serve you.

That's just how I don't want it. My main goal is to cook without oil. And if it’s impossible without it, then I don’t need such a grill.
This is how it turns out.

I have not tried washing soda yet. Thanks for the advice. I'll try it today.

Added Monday 28 Mar 2016 09:04 AM

and what do they write in the instructions about the oil? I watched all the available videos on Steba's grills - nowhere are the plates preliminarily oiled, everything is put on a dry surface. In any case, you need an examination, perhaps you came across a Chinese copy (here they wrote that this happens) More: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=304428.0

The instructions say to lubricate with oil before first use, then wipe with a dry cloth.

[panterabagira]

panterabagira, where did you buy the grill? On Ozone?
So give it under warranty and get a new one, why torture yourself and the grill)

[panterabagira]

panterabagira, what is not a warranty case if the declared non-stick properties do not correspond to reality and the product cannot perform its direct functions. This is the main definition of a low-quality product in the Consumer Protection Law.

I specially photographed the plates of my grill. Model FG95, I have a grill since September or October.
I don't use it every day, but it doesn't stand idle either.
Fried meat today. I never grease the panels with oil. Only at the first start it lubricated and calcined.
The bottom panel

Top panel


The photo clearly shows that the coating is like new.

My grill was used absolutely every day, 3-5 times a day. We washed after each preparation.
Probably such loads are too much for him.

By the way, Marina has had such a grill 4.4 for a long time, about the same as mine in time. So she didn't complain about the coverage.
The grill 4.4 has the most resistant coating.

[Hot salad]

Hot salad
Red pepper
Eggplant
Small tomatoes
Hard cheese
Prshut (can be substituted with bacon)
Crackers
Refueling
Cut vegetables and grill. Fry the prosciutto too.
Grate the cheese or cut into small pieces.
I made crackers from my own bread, grilled it and cut it into pieces.
We do the filling:
Olive oil
A mixture of peppers, salt, lemon juice. Mix everything and pour into a bowl with vegetables.
Cut vegetables after grilling into small pieces.
We get a very tasty dish)

Masha, I agree about Yulmart, I also had an experience with a return, I respect this company.

Grilled vegetables are delicious, and don't need to be sprinkled before frying, don't they stick?

I sprinkled them lightly with olive oil. I have it in a spray bottle.
But if you do not spray, they will not stick. Checked)

For a non-stick coating on the grill to last longer, you need:
- cook on oiled plates. Why is the top plate damaged more? On the bottom plate, dripping fat remains, which prevents burning food particles from coking on the surface. You can grease the panels with a silicone brush, or you can put the product on the grill already in oil;
- if food is burnt, remove it as soon as possible, even if the grill is still hot. At this point, the roasts are usually not very sticky yet. You can do this with a paper towel in several layers so as not to burn yourself. You can use a silicone spatula. If more than one product is made, then before each batch, clean off the burnt particles and refresh the oil film. Or you can put food already doused with oil;
- do not cook for a long time at the maximum temperature, this is especially important for 4.4, because it has a maximum 250C;

My opinion is.
The main enemies to cover are (if not scraped with a knife):
1. A sharp temperature drop (put the product on a hot surface from the freezer (and the refrigerator) or wash a plate that is still slightly cooled down after cooking)
2. Rinse off burnt food without presoaking. Many Foods will stick a little after cooking anyway.
I always cook everything without oil in the 70th model and heat it up solidly for cooking. except for the above points, I do not stand on ceremony and the surface is like new after 1 \ 2 years.
There were no such complaints, which means that it is not a single marriage (after all, more than one plate suffered), but improper operation, maybe even a one-time oversight. There is a single jamb, the consequences of which do not emerge immediately after it, but after time, when they have already forgotten everything about this jamb. I myself have come across this more than once.

[igorechek]

Before the first use, I washed, dried the panels, smeared them with ghee and warmed them up to close the pores.
I heat it up closed; when I turn it off, I open it to cool down.
I do not expose to sudden changes in temperature, mine, when the panels are practically cold.
I never wash in PMM, only a mild dishwashing detergent, including for children. And I'm not trying to degrease to a squeak.
If something sticks, not rub, but soak... Everything goes away easily.

igorechek,
Points 1 and 2 for you coincide with my conclusions.

The maximum heating in the 70th model is somewhat lower, somewhere around 220C, at 4.4-250C. At 4.4 220C at the fourth level out of five possible, in this fourth mode I mainly cook. I use the fifth level for a short time to seal meat.

People are so afraid of oil, although I must say that at high temperatures, oil is practically not absorbed into the product. This is the first thing. Secondly, the grooved surface removes excess fat.

The oil forms a protective film, prevents the product particles from sticking and burning.
Coking of burnt food residues and polymerized unwashed fat are harmful to non-stick coatings. It is also harmful for humans (carcinogens and you, and you py ...)
If the grill was cast-iron, it would be possible to rub it mercilessly and burn it so that the remnants burn out.
Our grills with only high quality Teflon coated.

Judging by the photo, after cooking, the plates were not soaked for a minute or two, but they immediately tried to wipe off the burnt product.
I'm not afraid to cook in oil, it's just on the grill that I like to cook without oil. But potatoes in a frying pan - this is necessarily with butter or lard.
By the way, Shteba has good deep fat fryers. It's strange that no one is paying attention to them. Their device differs from most other deep fat fryers on the market.The heater is not placed under a container with oil, but INSIDE of it, therefore, the fallen product particles do not burn out on a very heated bottom, creating carcinogens, but fall on the slightly heated bottom of the heater. This makes deep-fat cooking much safer.

Today I fried waffles according to this recipe:https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=294806.0 ... 5 minutes for 4. It turned out 36 pieces. If you apply less, they will be crispy, more - soft. First I smeared the panels with a brush with oil, then I forgot. I liked it very much. Fast and hassle-free.

Waffles are valid !! now you will eat for 2 days)
Can't you taste the soda?

Judging by the photo, after cooking, the plates were not soaked for a minute or two, but immediately tried to wipe off the burnt product.

The fact of the matter is that every time they soaked and washed with a dishwashing brush, as written in the instructions. It is straight and peeled off under the brush, like a skin. The bristles of the brush are not stiff.

I never brush. Only with a soft sponge and everything can be removed normally.
You do not need to rub anything, the carbon deposits itself goes away.

Waffles are valid !! now you will eat for 2 days)
Can't you taste the soda?

Oh, that lan 2 days .. Cho is there.

Soda is not felt. In general, baking powder and soda are in the recipe, but today I did it for 1 hour. l. soda, extinguishing it in 1 st. l. sour cream.

Hello! I love the steba technique .. there is a cartoon and a vacuum ... but I wondered which grill to take ... 4.4 or 95 or 70 please write down the main, key differences .. pros and cons .. my brain is no longer able to choose: - )

[Elena]

Elena, I chose the method of elimination. 95 large + a drip tray is used. 70 is compact, but the bottom panel is smooth. Remained 4.4., It has a compact size, additional smooth and waffle panels + German assembly and the most resistant coating. Also read this review: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=304428.0

Elena, I can compare the 70th model and 4.4, because I have the 70th, and bought 4.4 for my daughter. The coating of 4.4 (4.3) is very good, stronger than that of 70. But I'm not complaining about mine, the plates are like new after several months of operation. Plates can be interchanged. 4.4 model is more powerful than the 70th, it fries faster. In the 70th, when buying, I was attracted by a flat plate and a container for collecting fat-juice, it is still possible to install the top plate at different heights, if something voluminous is being fried, only level 5 positions. If I chose now, I would stop at 4.4 models, since a flat plate appeared, and it fries better

Girls, thanks a lot! In 4.4, the waffle iron is embarrassing .. probably not needed .. and the price is certainly not very humane .. but the power is really more .. and I seem to lean more towards it :-) but there is no tray for fat in it? For me, this is important too .. otherwise I always have fat on the grill pans .. I read and did not understand yet a moment .. 4.3 how is it different?

4.3 how is it different?

The difference is only in the color of the case, but the functionality is the same

Q 4.4 ... and there is no grease tray in it?

On the grill plate, the near left corner is made to drain the fat. Any plate of a suitable height is placed on the table at this angle.

Virgo, maybe this has already been discussed, and I missed it, but what is the difference between 4.3 and 4.4 (besides the price)?

Mannochka, only in color)

[Mashun]

Mashun, what color? And what, the color costs 650r?

Well, for what I bought, for which I sold)
Only the color of the case and nothing else. Well, also the temperature controller is also of different colors)

Well, yes, I saw the regulator (yellow and black), but the black 650r regulator is not worth it?

[Manna]

Manna,

The 4.3 has a black switch, the grill color is chrome, the 4.4 has a champagne metallic and a yellow switch, the coating is slightly rough to the touch.

I chose 4.4 because there are absolutely no fingerprints and smudges on the metal, although the yellowish tint is striking if the grill is placed next to the usual silver equipment.
For comparison, a photo with a combine, its bowl is chrome, the body is silver paint.



Any touch on a polished bowl leaves a mark. And occasional scratches are visible. And the grill is constantly in contact with grease and splashes, but it is easily wiped off without streaks. The body gets dirty slightly, you have to wipe the black plastic hinges, the handle with the regulator, and the wire in a metal spring corrugation more carefully.

[Zinfandel]

Zinfandel, thanks for the explanations and the photo
I don't understand why 4.3 is 650r more expensive, if the difference is only in color. Maybe then the difference is in the material of the case?

Yes, our price, it seems to me, is jumping because of the euro-ruble rate, old-new supplies. A month ago, when I was buying, 4.3 could be bought for less than seven thousand.
German search engine (like our Market on Yandex).
4.4
32 offers at 84.95-139.99Е:
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4.3
10 offers with prices 92.86-122.51Е:
🔗

The difference in minimum prices is somewhere around 8E. The chrome finish is slightly more expensive. The case material seems to be the same.

Good afternoon girls !! Omela a question for you, are the waffles thick?

Good afternoon girls !! Omela a question for you, are the waffles thick?

No, not thick, rather like cookies.

By the way, I have 4.4 written on the box, but the switch is black.

Omela thanks, I ordered such a miracle! Now I will wait.

Why then 4.3 is 2 kg heavier ?? There is such infa on ozone .....

Cheers cheers!! Girls take Stebochka lovers into their ranks, today they received a Steba 4.4 grill. At first I ordered on ozone, but there delivery is only for May 13-16, and then I called comfort-maximum and received it today, the price is the same 7250, and there is also an additional plate. Already washed, calcined., Now I will make cutlets, and then chicken. Outrageously happy, like a child of a new toy !!!!!

[pljshik]

pljshik, congratulations on your purchase !! Let it only please!

Thank you, I hope that my family members will also appreciate the device! Made burgers for hamburgers, great. Now I will marinate the chicken.

Girls, does anyone have such a baby ??
Steba FG 29


Contact grill Steba FG 29
Fast cooking with double-sided frying
Grill plates 31.0 x 20.0 cm with non-stick coating
Drip tray for collecting grease dripping from the grill plates
Fast cooking with double-sided frying
Grill plates 31.0 x 20.0 cm with non-stick coating
Drip tray for collecting grease dripping from the grill plates
Power supply: 220-240 V, 50 Hz. Power consumption: 1400 W

What kind of infection we have on the forum .. after all, in the morning nothing was needed, but already bought a ham maker and now again in one place itching !!!! good people, turn off my internet !!!!!

You are the temptresses! I ordered 4.4 (I wonder if it is still sold with a smooth plate in the kit on ozone?) I put off two paychecks, tossed between the Le Crezier frying pan and the grill. Now we need to make a plan for begging for a frying pan while there is a discount on it.

[Irina]

Irina, congratulations, write when you get it, with or without a smooth plate.
I use it all the time, but I haven't made waffles yet. The fish turns out amazingly, I have never tried this before. Vegetables: potatoes, eggplants, zucchini, and bell peppers - this is generally something ... And the vegetable season is ahead ... So I did the right thing that decided on this purchase.

Galina, because of the vegetables, she decided, because we practically don't eat meat. I will definitely unsubscribe. A frying pan would still be, it is cast-iron with an enamel coating, from such a (smaller diameter) everything jumps off, like an expensive infection from Teflon. They would make grills like this, I would not have to think harmful, not harmful

[Irina]

Oh, and here I decided to fry the wings in it ... I don't want to ... I barely washed it. Vegetables, fish - that's for him. I also make apples for a child. it turns out quickly.

Irina, Congratulations!

[Omela]

Girls, and I tried to grill turkey meat - I didn't like it, it turned out to be oak or overexposed, I don't know. And everything else is just wonderful!

Added Monday 28 Mar 2016 09:10 AM

Omela, and apples are like? How many minutes are you holding? Do you cut small or large? In general - give the details!

[Galina]

Galina, I cut apples into plates not thinly, I didn't measure exactly. For 4 - 3 minutes.

Received, washed, smeared on all sides, warm. Smooth plate included. On the wafer side on the cones, there is an extra non-stick coating with such ruffles, tell me what to do with it.

[panterabagira]

panterabagira, as Masha wrote, the grill has long been! Covering without damage. I wash it: if something burns, I will first soak it with detergent, and then I rub it with a soft sponge (with the coarse reverse side) or with a brush (toothbrush) - I adjusted it. But the only detergent I have is Amway (zoom and oven cleaner). And so while cooking properly!