Masinen
vernisag, Irina, yeah, we don't have such standards))

Nastasya, Nastya, well, here I am, too, but someone likes to use a flat plate for vegetables.
gala10
Girls, on a smooth plate, it turns out great resti:
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gala10, Galya, thanks for the reminder !!! Rusty, exactly !!
Natalia K.
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on a smooth plate, the ribs are great:
How long did Gal roast Resti?
gala10
Natasha, about 10 minutes at 3 speeds.
Papa [BO]
Tell me about the choice of grill / sandwich maker please. Stopped like at Steba. These three models are: FG 56, FG 95, PG 4.3. So I understand the last German, the first 2 China. How important is it? And the main question, the quality of the plates? I read in reviews that in a couple of months of intensive use they are stripped, everything sticks, etc. How realistic is it then to order a new plate for, say, the first model, as I understand the most popular is the last one. Maybe someone saw all three, how visible is the difference in the quality of the plates? I read this thread, the author wrote that the first model, they say, does not need to be sprayed with oil, but what is needed in 4.4 only with oil? I thought so there is Teflon everywhere?
I want a high-quality coating, well, let's say, like on woll pans, there tefal did not stand next to its best pans.

P.S. I now have a Tefalevsky grill at home, but it is not clamping, well, so open. You can't make sandwiches in it, it fries for a long time, splashes fly and the main drawback, it is very difficult to wash it after fish and meat, it is covered, as it were, with such a sticky black film, which is very difficult to wash off, for a long time with a rag, etc. Although food can be said to not stick to it during cooking, but to wash it .... By the way, I tried to wash it in the dishwasher, of course, it is partially washed, but these heavy contaminants only with a rag ... Of course it would be easier with such a hard rag clean, but I think the coating will be killed so quickly.
Masinen
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as I understand the last German, the first 2 China. How important is it

Good afternoon, the price depends on the country of production, well, someone is calmer if the equipment is made in Europe)
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that in a couple of months of intensive use they are stripped, everything sticks
It depends how you use it)
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How realistic is it then to order a new plate for, say, the first model, as I understand the most popular is the last
for models 4.4 4.3 plates are on sale.
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For 95 models there are panels on sale.
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There are no plates for the 56, but this is new.
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I read this thread, the author wrote that the first model, they say, does not need to be sprayed with oil, but what is needed in 4.4 only with oil? I thought so there is Teflon everywhere?
56 models and 4.3 / 4.4 have different coverage
You can not oil the panels on the 56 model, or you can oil it if, for example, the fish is white, or you can fry it whole.
On German it is better to grease, of course, although if you fry fatty meat, then you can not grease, too.
it all depends on what you cook.
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it is covered, as it were, with such a sticky black film, which is very difficult to wash off,
So a film of sunflower oil forms on the German.

I had 95, now 4.4 and 56 model.
It could have been welded to 95 and had to be soaked later, but no film formed.
4.4 also needs to be soaked after cooking and the film appears.
for 56 models, but I have it not long ago, there is no film, and everything is washed off easily. Well, for now, what will happen in half a year, I can't say yet))

Yes, the German has waffle panels and a max temperature of 250 g, while 95 and 56 models have a max temperature of up to 230 g.
I didn't seem to forget to write anything)
gala10
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a film is formed from sunflower oil
And if you grease with olive oil, then there is no film. (Mashenka, she taught us herself!) I have 4.4 2.5 years.I am very satisfied, the plates are like new, I use them 2-3 times a week. I don't want to change it for anything.
Masinen
Galina, yes, there is no oil from olive, but it smokes at high temperature.
And then there is Olive specially for frying, refined, so I will buy and try it.
Papa [BO]
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Masinen
Thank you very much for your advice.
Especially with regard to sunflower oil, I would never have thought that there is a difference in the film of sunflower or olive). I really fried with sunflower, for the second day I can not tear off this film, I washed and rubbed three times in the dishwasher).

Personally interesting is your experience of comparing these devices, which one do you often use, which one is more convenient to use? Thank you.
Masinen
Papa [BO], 95 grill I don't have already.
I love my 4.4 very much, for its thoroughness, seriousness, and I like that waffles can be baked, well, as a nice bonus. I don't use a flat plate, I have it, but I need to get it out and use it, for Resty)
And I have 56 quite recently, so while I'm just researching it, I liked that it is light and compact, the price is not too high, The coating seems to be good.
At the moment, while I'm cooking on it, and I write all my impressions here in the topic.

In the choice of the device, the price also plays an important role, someone can afford a grill for 15, then it is worth taking 4.4 / 4.3, and if there is no way you do not want to spend a lot of money on the purchase, that is, budget options, like the 95 model or 56, I haven't seen 70)

Yes. 95 grill is big, I'll tell you right away, so you need a place for it))
A 4.4 / 4.3 is very compact and can be stored vertically, as there is a latch that keeps it closed.

I'll take a picture of them now for comparison)
Masinen
Comparative photos of two grills

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Masinen
I suggest you try rainbow trout today))

Rainbow Trout in Parchment (Grilled Steba FG56) (Masinen)

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I add a video to the recipe, as they say, better late than never

added to the recipe itself)
Masinen
Back to the grill test a bit)

Already managed to fry a lot of things on it, here are my photo notes.
Chicken thighs

fits 4 large
salt, season with seasonings.
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Warm up mode 4 and then put the chicken.
cook for about 20 minutes
At the end, I transfer to mode 3.
Fried without oil.
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Masinen
Chicken legs and thighs

I cook everything without butter, it became interesting to check how the legs will get fried, because I don't like the result everywhere.

Just salt and sprinkle with seasonings. Grill preheated on setting 4
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as you can see from the photo that fit a lot)
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well it turns out very tasty !!!
The plates are washed perfectly, which is very, very happy!
ir
As much as fit! And it seems to be compact.


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And does his plate change?
Helen
Masinen, Masha, stop teasing with hams ... !!!
ir
Helen, well, at six in the evening they could be ...
Masinen
ir, yeah, it fits a lot, but you can't tell by sight)

Quote: ir
And does his plate change?
They are filming, yes.
In the video review I showed in detail how to shoot, how to put in place)))



Helen3097, Flax, drooling flowed, ahh .....
This is fat, you don’t know)))

By the way, I also fried chicken fillet, only there is no photo, I seem to photograph everything.
Next time, you need to take a picture again))
Helen
ir, well, in the evening you can, only without the skin ... and until 18 ...
mamusi
Masinen, Masha, girls! Hello everyone!
I received by mail, finally, new grill plates ... Two came - but different from the back side - one with a waffle side, and the other with a smooth one (I don't know what calculation they had)))
But it doesn't matter, the main thing is that both have a grooved side of the grill, as it should be ...
What I want to say, they are somehow LIGHT - when I picked it up at the post office I noticed ... I expected that it would be hard for me to carry the package (with my sore right hand), but it turned out to be almost weightless .. I reported it without any problems .. I compared them at home - indeed, the new plates are lighter in weight than the old ones ...
They are more brilliant, some even "with a spark" seems to me ...I haven't cooked the meat yet - I haven't checked it, but today I "updated" them for breakfast - I prepared two hot buffets with cheese inside ... The surface is shiny, clean, where a little cheese has leaked - everything was removed easily - you don't even need to wash it ... I'll try vegetables - zucchini - potatoes.
Well ... I'm not planning meat today ... no!
Maybe tomorrow! And the most interesting. How they will lead themselves further ... And I want to try the fish ...
celfh
Girls, I have no grill, and absolutely no time to read everything. I beg you, in three words, about the advantage of grilling over a conventional frying pan. I really want to buy something, but I absolutely don't know what)))
gala10
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about the advantage of grilling over a conventional frying pan
It is fried on both sides at once, very quickly and practically without oil.
celfh
gala10,
Masinen
mamusi, Margaritahow good !! The main thing is that these serve for a long time and without problems.

You write how and what, and I wonder how the fish will be fried.

Kara
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Masinen, Masha, girls! Hello everyone!
I received in the mail, finally, new grill plates ...

Margarita, was it sent to you instead of the defective ones?


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Even chicken breasts stick, you open the grill, and they hang on the top panel))

Fish, it seems to me, is the most accurate indicator. But with the first, and even with the second use, everything is fine. And then ...
Masinen
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Fish, it seems to me, is the most accurate indicator

Better a white fish, if it doesn't stick, it means good))

There has already been a replacement of panels under warranty from our forum member from France, and she does not complain about them. And the time has passed decently.
Kara
Man, come on them! We will not start this organ again
Masinen
IrinThe main thing is that they have already started to change, a good sign: girl_win:
Well, when they change you, then sign off for you.
Natusya
Good morning everyone, everyone, everyone!
I finally got to my Steba FG 70 grill husband drove off to the dacha
I washed it, heated it, greased greased with oil, washed with coffee alcohol in the morning is prohibited!
I put sausages in it, lightly fried, then 2! testicles out of greed broke overkill for me
Karoch, I really liked the grill, the only thing missing is one more corrugated panel, and in comfort they only go as a set
Maybe I'll mature, but a little later limit reached Here is such a delicious thing I have.
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nnv200569, Natasha, I'm glad for you, some positive emotions !!
Samopal
Natusya, The beauty! I also want))) And for a sous-vid, this is suitable (fry quickly?).
RepeShock
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And for a sous-vide, this is suitable (quick fry?).

For this, any
Natusya
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nnv200569, Natasha, I'm glad for you, some positive emotions !!
Mashul, I am so grateful to you !!! for the seduction with suvid and grills Thank you very much!
Oleg, I took it for sous-vide, and I started experiments with sausages


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People! Maybe someone has an unnecessary corrugated plate for fg 70 lying around ?! I would take or buy inexpensively.


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My girl did a great job
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MY BEAUTY !!!
After frying the meat, I just wiped it with a rag and everything is clean. Behold
The plate coverage is good!
Masinen
nnv200569, Natasha, I'm glad for you !!! technique should only be fun !!

shurpanita
Maria, watch my find
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shurpanita, Marina, yes I said about it, where I bought it, prick !!
shurpanita
I bought it at a crossroads, I don’t know how much it costs in other stores, for an action of 240 like 500 ml. I'm getting ready: girl_in_dreams: dreams come true!
Natusya
Came to brag
Prepared pork steak or roast beef with a small bone and vegetables. Yummy! ..
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Lili-ill
nnv200569, Vkusnotischaaaa !!! Looks very appetizing! Class!
Natusya
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nnv200569, Vkusnotischaaaa !!! Looks very appetizing! Class!
Thank you. I tried to
Masinen
nnv200569Natasha, look the meat turned out?
Natusya
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nnv200569Natasha, look the meat turned out?
Yes, Mash the pork is cool! I just want to torture the beef now.
The previous one will be seen now.
Mirabel
nnv200569, Natasha, did you marinate pork in advance?
Natusya
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nnv200569, Natasha, did you marinate pork in advance?
Vika, marinated in olive oil + salt, pepper and 1/4 of a small lemon juice. In the refrigerator for at least 30 minutes (I stood for about 1.5 hours). Now the salmon steak has been marinated with the addition of soy sauce. I will fry myself for lunch in the morning.
I forgot to write, maybe someone will come in handy, I warmed up the grill at max 220 * C (Steba fg 70). Fried the steak for 1 minute, reduced it to 180 * and another 5-7 minutes. I stuck a temperature probe into the steak. The temperature reached almost 90 * missed a little... But it turned out all the same tasty and juicy!
Mirabel
Thank you Natasha! I'm also waiting for beef stacks, I didn't succeed in my time after sous-vid .. probably the meat was from an old animal
Natusya
Vic, my beef was juicy right away, but there was no grill. I fed my husband so, he said very tasty. I am silent about the grill, otherwise he will soon have it like that
Mirabel
Ah, well, then I'll ask about beef. And how did you see her?
Natusya
She wiped the beef with napkins, sprinkled with salt, pepper and vacuumized it. I poured hot water from the tap into the pressure cooker (I have dd2), folded a bag of meat, t 63 * for 3 hours (Masha advised to get it out and put it in ice water, only I fell asleep and she lay in the pan until morning).
I almost forgot, I capitalized it with a tender.

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