mumi
Quote: Wolverine

asked a question, what is a crush, no one answered me ...

Yes, just rising bread the oven mixes (crumples) a couple of times when it rises. Rye dough doesn't like that.
I don't usually do it anyway, because I take out the knife immediately after the end of the "mash", which is the main one and lasts approx. half an hour - then there is no hole from the knife, but only a tiny hole Brand 3801 bread maker - modernized model
Wolverine
Quote: mumi

Yes, just rising bread the oven mixes (crumples) a couple of times when it rises. Rye dough doesn't like that.
So I don't usually do it, because I take out the knife after the end of the "mash", which lasts approx. half an hour
Thank you, we will know!
LyuLyoka
And we have a New Year, that is, I have already ordered a stove for myself for the New Year, today they will deliver
LyuLyoka
They brought my stove - it looks very cool. The measuring spoon pleased me - it is delimited in half, but the glass, on the contrary, upset, has divisions only with a step of 50 ml.
I was hoping to see an adequate recipe for the "Keks" program, but there is a rich yeast cake, the same as for program # 6 (it was also in the instructions for the old model, as I understood).
There is still enough bread in the house, tomorrow or the day after tomorrow I will start operating
mumi
Congratulations! White? Where did you order?
: girl_in_dreams: We are waiting for impressions.
Something rye with yeast and malt, pliz.
Wolverine
Quote: LyuLyoka

And we have a New Year, that is, I have already ordered a stove for myself for the New Year, today they will deliver
What color is your bread maker?
LyuLyoka
No, I don't need white, I took black
I don’t promise about rye, we don’t like it from HP, although ... maybe I didn’t come across a suitable recipe
I wanted to try French. In my Daewoo it did not work, the roof always fell. In general, I have always used only the main one, well, and "Dough" or "Baking" separately.
Girls, to me on "you"
mumi
Quote: LyuLyoka

In my Daewoo it did not work, the roof always fell. In general, I have always used only the main one, well, and "Dough" or "Baking" separately.

My roof drops when there is too much yeast and the dough has risen to the maximum before baking. Well, or stopped. But since the time is already set in the programs, the amount of yeast can be varied.
LyuLyoka
So that's it - it was over. And I have a mode there of only 3.30 compared to this 4.10. Maybe heating also affects, Daewoo heats very much in French, as well as on whole grain. In general, let's see what happens, now I will put it according to the recipe from the instructions.
LyuLyoka
Well, here's some bread Brand 3801 bread maker - modernized model
The roof is in place The recipe from the instructions (ordinary French), but I still added flour up to 500 g, it seemed to me a little thin and the salt took 10 g. The color of the crust is average, but in fact it came out lighter than average, and the top is still a little lighter. In the next. once you can safely put a dark crust. Heating during proofing was weak and very pleasant, not to be compared, of course, with Daewoo.
The stove works quite noisily, and with intensive mixing it also staggers - everything that was on it staggered the table. Well, I have it not in the kitchen, but in a dark room, there is no one to disturb.
While this is all, I'll cut the bread later
And here's another, it does not peep very loudly, again compared to the Daewoo, it is very unpleasant and shrill squeaks.
LaraKeer
The aroma of hot crispy bread comes from the picture, show the middle
LyuLyoka
Cool already, cut it - good came out, thin crunchy crust
LyuLyoka
All the same, I decided to try the "Rye" mode. Took the Village Baton (bread maker + oven) from Ksyushk @ -Plushk @ I baked it more than once in the oven, very good bread. Here's what happened (exposed a dark crust)
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The roof is not so hot, but the crumb is good, the crust is crispy (it becomes soft in the oven when it cools). I think you should put less yeast on this mode. The bread is delicious, but I still like the wheat-rye from the oven more.
I added flax seeds on my own
Nikusya
And here are my beauty!

Brand 3801 bread maker - modernized model

Brand 3801 bread maker - modernized model

Brand 3801 bread maker - modernized model

Milk bread according to MariV recipe
The color of the crust is average, but it seemed a little pale, and I put extra. for baking (10 min.)

I don't know, but it seems like a masterpiece to me.
LyuLyoka
Yes, the crust comes out light. It seems to me that you can always put on a dark one and not bathe. Well, unless it's a muffin with a lot of sugar, then medium.
MariV
Brand 3801 bread maker - modernized model
Rye whole grain, as it were, Riga. Kneading and proofing - in a bread maker, baked goods in a mold in the oven.
Kneads perfectly!
LyuLyoka
Yes, it kneads the animals
MariV Olga, have you accidentally tried the recipe for "Whole-grain" bread from the instructions (program 3-4), is it not a mistake there, about rye flour? That is, exactly rye is needed or is it all the same?
LyuLyoka
I baked a bun, it turned out great Brand 3801 bread maker - modernized model

I put it in a separate recipe
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=311358.0
Wolverine
Quote: LyuLyoka

I baked a bun, it turned out great
How delicious!
Elven
I also have a New Year soon! My charm is already on its way to me
MariV
Quote: LyuLyoka

Yes, he kneads the animals
MariV Olga, have you accidentally tried the recipe for "Whole-grain" bread from the instructions (program 3-4), is it not a mistake there, about rye flour? That is, exactly rye is needed or is it all the same?
By chance, Julia, have not tried .
What confused you? The composition of the recipe or the name? If the second, then this is a typo or a mistake due to inattention of the compilers - without looking, rewritten from the instructions from the first bread machine, there was the program "Whole Grain" instead of the current "Rye".
MariV
I wrote down a program on "Manual" to myself - the maximum batch and two proofings without baking. I liked it very much! From the most ordinary flour, water and yeast, without any improvers, a silky dough for homemade bread such as ciabatta was obtained.
LyuLyoka
MariV , I wonder, is it possible in more detail - the recipe and baking method? And the settings on the manual, after all, are reset to zero after disconnecting from the network, if I understood correctly?
MariV
Quote: LyuLyoka

MariV , I wonder, is it possible in more detail - the recipe and baking method? And the settings on the manual, after all, are reset to zero after disconnecting from the network, if I understood correctly?
When you unplug the breadmaker from the network - the auto program settings are not reset? Also 4 manuals are not reset.
Nikusya
Quote: MariV

When you unplug the breadmaker from the network - the auto program settings are not reset? Also 4 manuals are not reset.

Olenka, another question, can you change the already configured manual program?

And I'm also bragging! I made yogurt according to the standard program, it turned out great.
MariV
Quote: Nikusya

Olenka, another question, can you change the already configured manual program?

And I'm also bragging! I made yogurt according to the standard program, it turned out great.
Congratulations sincerely! I am planning to use the program "yogurt" for proving the dough.
All four manual programs can be changed to suit your needs. For example, write down a long kneaded dough with proofing, in another - sourdough bread, and so on. In order not to forget, at the end of the instruction book there are tables with empty graphs, and write down your algorithms for each program there. Interesting!
Tired of - easy to change.
LyuLyoka
Quote: MariV

When you unplug the breadmaker from the network - the auto program settings are not reset? Also 4 manuals are not reset.
Got it, thanks MariV... Today I also tried programming, it turned out to be quite simple, but I thought I would not succeed.

Quote: MariV

I wrote down a program on "Manual" to myself - the maximum batch and two proofings without baking. I liked it very much! From the most ordinary flour, water and yeast, without any improvers, a silky dough for homemade bread such as ciabatta was obtained.
And yet Olga, can the recipe be very interesting, what kind of bread is this?
MariV
The usual ciabatta, on the recipe forum for this simple dough - do not count! Users wrote, posted photos with step-by-step execution. Such work! you just have to read the relevant sections.
LaraKeer
Quote: Vadim Solynin

I am glad to announce the arrival of the Brand 3801 bread machine in black, as well as spare bowls for it.

Everyone who waited for this model, you are welcome:
🔗

P.S. We expect this model to arrive in white in late November - early December.
For some reason your managers said that white HP will go on sale in January
And we are waiting for them for the New Year, as a gift
Nikusya
Quote: MariV

Congratulations sincerely! I am planning to use the program "yogurt" for proving the dough.
All four manual programs can be changed to suit your needs. For example, write down a long kneaded dough with proofing, in another - sourdough bread, and so on. In order not to forget, at the end of the instruction book there are tables with empty graphs, and write down your algorithms for each program there. Interesting!
Tired of - easy to change.

Great idea for yoghurt moderation, Thank you. I'll take it on board.
MariV
Made today on a programmed manual dough for Pizza Panzarotto.

I'm very happy!

🔗
Nikusya
Quote: MariV

Made today on a programmed manual dough for Pizza Panzarotto.

I'm very happy!

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Wow, how delicious !! it seems like the smell of pizza is already in the office (I'm sitting at work). Can I have a delicious recipe?
Nikusya
Thank you! I took it to the bookmarks, I will definitely have to try it.
MariV
To your health! I love pizza at home - so closed - calzone - I liked it more!
Elven
My stove came to me

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🔗

I put in yogurt for now, we will bake bread tomorrow
Elven
Today is the first test on bread. This bread is my firstborn. I'm very worried about what will happen. It remains to wait 50 minutes, the dough rose to the top of the bucket, looked behind the bun - everything seemed to be fine. Plain white bread from the instructions.
Rituslya
We are looking forward to your white bread!
What a beauty your bread maker is!
Elven
Ritaplease come to me
I'm looking forward to it too, there is not much left. The smell is on the whole apartment! I'm already walking in circles around the stove
Elven
I posted it on a separate topic, as I did yesterday yogurt
Yoghurt Mode (Bread Maker Brand 3801 (2013))
Maybe someone will be interested in reading
Elven
Bake my first bread !!!
Baking Plain white bread according to the recipe from the instructions. I only took fresh yeast, 9 gr. Weight 750, dark crust

Brand 3801 bread maker - modernized model

Brand 3801 bread maker - modernized model

Weighed a loaf, 655 gr. This is normal?!
And another stupid question: when and how to get the mixer so that it does not bake into bread ?!
Admin
Quote: Elven


Weighed a loaf, 655 gr. This is normal?!
And another stupid question: when and how to get the mixer so that it does not bake into bread ?!

Well, when baking, moisture evaporates from the dough, so the crumb becomes dry, and not like in raw dough This is called "batter"
Take out the spatula while the bread is still hot, immediately after baking - pry it off with something sharp and suitable for this. The stirrer quickly flies out of hot bread
Elven
Tatyana, Thank you!
As for the mixer, I did just that - I pulled it out of the hot bread with a crochet hook. I mean, before baking, how do you get it? On the last climb?
Admin
Quote: Elven

Tatyana, Thank you!
As for the mixer, I did just that - I pulled it out of the hot bread with a crochet hook. I mean, before baking, how do you get it? On the last climb?

If before baking - then after kneading, before leaving for the last proofing, take out the dough quickly, take out the mixer and carefully place the dough on the bottom. At this time, you can also touch up the dough, put it in the center of the bottom so that the bread does not turn out to be one-sided
Elven
Yeah, thanks for the help. Let's learn

Tatyana, I'll get a little more 9 gr. fresh yeast ok? I couldn't figure out 8 or 10, I took it in the middle
Admin
Quote: Elven

Yeah, thanks for the help. Let's learn

Tatyana, I'll get a little more 9 gr. fresh yeast ok? I couldn't figure out 8 or 10, I took it in the middle

Calculation of fresh yeast: 2 grams of fresh yeast is taken per 100 grams of wheat flour.
When adding heavy flour to the rise, rye, whole grain and other types of flour, we increase the yeast laying rate by 20-30%, depending on the amount of heavy flour
risha n
here is my bread https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/gallery/albums/userpics/104487/Foto2522~0.jpg
baked rye bread on setting 3

set the weight to 1000, the crust is dark
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Wolverine
Quote: risha n

here is my bread
IrinaZ
Quote: MariV

By chance, Julia, have not tried .
What confused you? The composition of the recipe or the name? If the second, then this is a typo or a mistake due to inattention of the compilers - without looking, rewritten from the instructions from the first bread machine, there was the program "Whole Grain" instead of the current "Rye".

We renamed this program From Whole Grain to Rye, at the request of buyers. The recipes were left the same for this function, because this function can be used to bake both rye and whole grains, and with bran.
We did not change the recipes in the bread makers, because the book included only basic recipes for bread.
Nikasa
Irina, tell me, will you have a white stove on sale before December 25? Or not to wait for a gift under the tree?

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