Kind me
It's a pity how ... I try to choose a more or less quiet technique or with a mute function.
ksenia_br
Hello! If you need a silent bread maker, then in our service center they can try to turn off the sound for good
Kind me
Thank you very much, but I would not like to try :) I just ordered another one, with a mute function.
mechanic
I fell in love with her at first sight! Right now, as I saw! I was sitting looking for a gift for my brother, a bread maker, and now I saw such a miracle! And right into the subject, since I decided to give them to Stebu DD1 for their wedding anniversary and this stove is just perfect in appearance, and there is nothing to say about functionality !!!! And they will have two cubes!
Matilda_81
mechanic, Maria, a good choice, I have just that and they cost a couple Only, if there is an opportunity, order them Shteba DD2, it is a little updated!
mechanic
Quote: Matilda_81

Only, if possible, order them to Shteba DD2, it is a little updated!

Matilda, this is no longer possible! Because I bought a multi for myself and my brother at the same time. Unfortunately, I have not been on the forum for a long time and did not follow what is happening in the world, and I learned late that there is a new model of the staff! But this did not upset me at all, since the first staff is very functional! And my brother has neither multi nor x at all. stove, so for the first time this kit is "above the roof"!
On my own behalf, I want to say that although Shteba is multifunctional, I adore my Brandik 6050 and subjectively he is no slower in speed than Shteba (who is so praised for her nimbleness), while Brand is more informative, they make up an ideal duet for me!

I have no doubt that this stove will only delight!
Matilda_81
Maria, I wish you and my brother new and good recipes, share with us!
mechanic
I bought a stove in Yulmart today. When checking, I could not find the date of assembly or delivery. But according to the list of programs, the model is modernized. Would you like to clarify about an improved mixer shape? I looked at the photos taken when testing the new stove and there is a photo of a completely different mixer, more similar to Panasonic, the one that I saw inside the stove is quite high (wide) with an edge in the middle (slightly bent). sorry if I didn't quite clearly describe it, but I can't put a photo out. The stove was bought as a gift and everything was packed back after checking. I am worried about the moment whether the complete set of the stove has changed after the restart. And here's another moment the coating in the bucket should be light metallic? Oh sorry for the confusion, I'm worried.
Matilda_81
Maria, I have the same stirrer as in your copy, the coating of the bucket is dark. the set also includes a measuring cup, measuring spoon and hook, instructions.
mechanic
Ie, I have a bucket with an "old" coating? The stove itself was bought in a black version, but in white stoves it is interesting what kind of bucket cover?
Nikusya
Maria, if you look closely at my ave, you can see Brand in black, the bucket is also dark, so in my opinion they put what is. If only someone else could explain the difference between white and black coating.
Matilda_81
Quote: Nikusya
If only someone else could explain the difference between white and black coating.
it seems to me nothing.
Nikusya
And I am of the same opinion! So don't bother!
ksenia_br
Hello!
Quote: mashustik

Would you like to clarify about an improved mixer shape? I am worried about the moment whether the complete set of the stove has changed after the restart. And here's another moment the coating in the bucket should be light metallic?
On the official website of the company you can see a photo of the mixer, just type "3801" in the search bar of the site and at the bottom of the list, this mixer will be the fourth in a row
The equipment in the upgraded model has not changed. The color of the coating does not matter, I mean that these are original buckets in any case and the color of the coating does not affect baking in any way.If memory serves me, then in the first batch there were HP with a dark coating, and in the next batch there was already a light coating ... but again, it doesn't matter
Natabook
Good day! I chose the stove for a long time, chose 3801. I like it very much. But in the process of using, I noticed that all the breads are no higher than 9 cm, in half a bucket. I began to look for the reason. I saw that on the first program, when the dough rises for 1 hour and 30 minutes, the heating elements are cold all the time, and only heat up for the last 20 minutes. It is clear that in 20 minutes the dough does not have time to come up properly. On the program, the main one was fast and rye, and French, too, all the breads were 9 cm each. When I manually set the proofing of the dough at the same time and the temperature of 35 degrees, the dough rose to the edge of the bucket. Therefore, I have a request. Please see if your ten's are heating up when the dough is rising and how long it takes. I am now waiting for a response from the company. I was already going to carry her to the service, but it's a pity to part with her. Is this a marriage in my oven or are they all so set up?
Matilda_81
Natalia, I very often bake on 1 program and it seems to me that it warms up right away on the rise. I saw your message late, I will definitely not bake today, but I will put bread on the week and will turn my attention more precisely, then I will unsubscribe.
Natabook
Matilda_81, I look forward to!
Nikusya
Virgo help, even shout the guard! My stove is broken. Yesterday I galloped home from work, loaded the bucket, turned on the stove, it sounded as usual and the display went out, I'm shocked! Where to run, what to do ?! ... The nearest service centers are 500 km away.
MariV
Write to Brand website.
Nikusya
MariV, Thank you Olenka, come to me for you, okay?
ksenia_br
Quote: Nikusya

Virgo help, even shout the guard! My stove is broken. Yesterday I galloped home from work, loaded the bucket, turned on the stove, it sounded as usual and the display went out, I'm shocked! Where to run, what to do ?! ... The nearest service centers are 500 km away.
Hello!
I will write you a personal message on the phone of our master for communication, consult remotely. If possible, then film the incorrect operation of the device and send it to the master by mail. But I think that a trip to the service center cannot be avoided ...
MariV
MariV, Thank you Olenka, come to me for you, okay?
Aha!
Matilda_81
Natalia, yesterday I baked on program 1, the heating went, as it seemed to me, from the second batch. during the rise, the heating was from the very first minutes.
Natabook
Gulnara, thanks for your help. Unfortunately, this is not the case for me. So far, I only bake it by hand because of this. Apparently, you will have to carry it to the service.
MariV
What's on "Manual", what's on auto - the algorithm should be the same - rise (proofing) with a temperature of 25 degrees.
Murlykka
Girls, tell me, pliz! I want to buy myself HP. This will be my first HP. It is needed mainly for kneading dough for pies, dumplings. Well, I also like their classic bread. Will this HP suit me? Or look for something else? And what kind of jam does this HP have? makes it easier to cook? More details: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=152895.0
Matilda_81
Svetlana, she kneads well, although noisy. I didn't like cooking jam in it. Raspberries still did not go where, but I cooked apricots in it in pieces, so everything spilled. But as HP, kneading, lifting and baking everything suits me in it!
Murlykka
Quote: Matilda_81

thanks for the answer))) I will terrorize my husband))))
vjymrf
people tell me how to bake rye with sourdough without yeast? a lot of trouble? just as such, there are no such bread recipes, but it's a pity because what kind of bread is obtained in terms of usefulness, except to compare it with yeast bread?
sazalexter
vjymrfWild yeast full of recipes https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=257.0 at the expense of usefulness, I doubt it tastes better, probably yes, but there can be no question of benefit. All the same yeast. We'll have to switch to flat cakes and give up grapes, and breathe every other time
vjymrf
sazalexter, in what I agree, but if health does not allow, then if you want to live, then you will not think so. from shop yeast, a terrible allergy that is removed only in a hospital, but from leaven, at least something ...
MariV
So bake on self-grown wild yeast - sourdough. This bread maker (and others, too, with the right approach) provides endless possibilities for baking bread with wild yeast (sourdough).
all15
I'll leave a review too ... about the modernized one.
Actually, 2 things have changed.
Several manual programs have been added, which is great.
The price increased from 3000 to 5000. And this is very NOT great ... This is a segment change ... For 3000 - it had no analogues ... For 5000 - you already start thinking strongly, even despite the manual modes ...
I would like it cheaper. Is there any hope for this?

And - a technical question: something in my spatula sticks directly to the dough in baked bread, you can't tear it off, you have to soak it.
Earlier, on the previous model, it didn't seem to exist. Who has this effect? Something has changed?
Taisa
Hello. I select HP and became interested in this branch, since this model has good functionality at an affordable price. I don’t understand only one thing - how to distinguish the upgraded model from the previous one? For example, in M-Video it is sold under the designation Brand 3801 BK, elsewhere - Brand 3801 (2013), I also saw just Brand 3801. How to distinguish?
MariV
No way. If you like it - take, most likely, a new model is on sale. She has a well coated bucket.
ksenia_br
Quote: Taisa

Hello. I select HP and became interested in this branch, since this model has good functionality at an affordable price. I don’t understand only one thing - how to distinguish the upgraded model from the previous one? For example, in M-Video it is sold under the designation Brand 3801 BK, elsewhere - Brand 3801 (2013), I also saw just Brand 3801. How to distinguish?

Hello!
Focus on the presence of a four-step manual mode
Taisa
Thank you. I ordered it.
Irina.
Olga, what a handsome!!!
MariV
and even delicious!
Irina.
Olga, I believe, but you have to check it yourself (bake)
li
And I want one too !! 1Where can you buy in Ukraine?
ksenia_br
You can buy a bread maker (and not only) in Ukraine from our partner bigBit
I will send you a link to the store with a personal message
Anna Svetlova
Dear cooks and bakers !!!! I look and salivate - tell me please the green youngster - we are going to buy a bread maker - we will mainly bake with sourdough, as our relatives have garbage from ordinary yeast bread, so I would like a flexible mode, but at the same time I would sometimes bake for myself with ordinary yeast - which is better suited - I want to buy for a long time - so that it is more functional, 2 or 3 is not needed for me. We want to bake mainly rye bread, Borodino, well, Darnitsky too. We hardly eat white. which one do you recommend:
Bread Maker Brand 3801 BK or Bread Maker Philips Daily Collection HD9046 / 90? what else can you advise? I would like the bread to rise on the proofer in the oven, since it can be chilly in the kitchen. thank you waiting for an answer
sazalexter
Quote: Anna Svetlova
we will mainly bake with sourdough, as our relatives have garbage from ordinary yeast bread pops up
The starter culture contains yeast, lactic acid bacteria and many other fauna, and the result is unstable.
Take Brand 3801, and if you are allergic to a doctor, there may be a reaction to wheat.
ZY bakeries bake cheap bread with sourdough, almost without adding yeast, this is a great luxury for them.
Anna Svetlova
sazalexter, thanks for the advice. today we learned that we will not be able to buy it, since the model is either discontinued, and besides, points cannot be spent on it. us points to sell need: crazy: and type is only phillips. and so have become akin to her judging by the reviews))) maybe there is still some kind for starter with manual setting?
MariV
Brand 3801 bread maker - modernized model - white bread on your favorite program "French Bread".

After a day I cut it - airy, very tasty!

Brand 3801 bread maker - modernized model

Taisa
Tell me why the bread crumbles a lot? And this happens, in my opinion, regardless of the recipe.After reading almost everything that is on the forum on this matter, I followed all the advice, changed the amount of ingredients - all the same, too much goes into crumbs when cutting bread. The only thing that hasn't changed is the yeast. Maybe because of them?

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