NatalyaN
Quote: lira70


Borodinksiy bread turned out to be low, but heavy, but what do you do?
lira70, what recipe did you use for making Borodinsky? According to the attached recipe from the book, I got a brick - when mixing it it was clear that there was not enough water. Even when brewing malt, there is little boiling water.

lira70
NatalyaN
Yes, I did it according to the recipe from the book, I didn't add water, because the stove is new, I still don't know its intricacies, and the recipe is tricky - you never know how it is necessary))) and the whale for malt --- well, I always make the same amount in rye on Panasonic - and quite normal, most likely it was necessary to just add water in the batch, even my son noticed it, but decided to see the first result ..

And you, too, always have stirrers in the bread ..? as they do not fit snugly to the bucket. in my Panas, it sits more steadily and very rarely remains in bread, even in rye
NatalyaN
Stirrers (knives) almost always remain (one is always exactly like this, though there was one case when both remained in the bucket when removing, but it seems to have been with the bread left over after baking). And so, after the last deboning, I always try to get knives so that the bread looks more aesthetically pleasing.
lira70
NatalyaN
You are right, there is not enough water for malt in Borodinsky, 60 ml, but I do not look 80 - as usual I pour it and I did it))) Yesterday I decided to look through the book with recipes for a dream, well, and take another look about Borodinsky, but I saw that they offer 60 ml there))) now I sit and think, and how much you can believe these recipes from the book ... in Panas I never follow the white bun and sometimes look at the rye, because at the end I spread it on a bucket, so that the roof was beautiful.
Plaksa_vaksa
girls,

A week ago I bought myself a Moulinex5004 bread maker and nothing works for me - I struggle day and night ...

I do everything according to recipes ... I tried 4 different types of yeast ... I tried different flours ...

The problem is that the dough starts to knead and the impression is that it gets very hot and lacks moisture ... as a result, it is simply crushed by the end of the program into small fried crumbs ...
The dough doesn't even have time to rise ...

The birds on the street are already overeating

Bakeries !! I really need your consultation !!! please tell us how it should be correct.
How hot the dough should be after kneading. when I take mine out of the vat, I can't even hold it with my hands.

can you advise me something?

Thank you in advance
Celestine
Quote: Plaksa_vaksa


The problem is that the dough starts to knead and the impression is that it gets very hot and lacks moisture ... as a result, it is simply crushed by the end of the program into small fried crumbs ...
The dough doesn't even have time to rise ...

The birds on the street are already overeating

Bakeries !! I really need your consultation !!! please tell us how it should be correct.
How hot the dough should be after kneading. when I take mine out of the vat, I can't even hold it with my hands.

can you advise me something?

Thank you in advance

The dough should be warm but not hot, and if very dry add water and read the basics of baking.
Plaksa_vaksa
is it possible that this is a HP malfunction? it is not possible to hold a hand while kneading
Elena Bo
Plaksa_vaksa
Don't you knead it for jam (although I don't know if there is such a program in this bread maker)?
Quote: Plaksa_vaksa

The problem is that the dough begins to knead and the impression is that it gets very hot and lacks moisture ... as a result, it is simply crushed by the end of the program into small fried crumbs ...
Is very similar. Or malfunction, since baking starts during kneading
Plaksa_vaksa
no, not for jam, although this program is also there. On the exposed program with strictly measured products
Zest
Plaksa_vaksa In service the stove. The dough should not be hot when kneading. I grease the roof of almost all breads before baking. The dough was NEVER hot. A little warm, but no more.
Plaksa_vaksa
Zest! Thank you. apparently it will have to! My husband told me that I was not a baker, well, I really wanted to bake something! I read it on the forum so beautifully, well, I thought, I can too! I'm not a baker! You should listen to your husband!
Andrei
Yes, Plaksa_vaksa, the nose is higher !!!

My stove, too, broke down the next day, but I do not despair, but I am fighting for my rights, and as soon as I get the money back, I will buy another stove and another manufacturer !!! (there is already sediment from Moulinex ...)

It's not about skill, but about the elementary marriage of the manufacturer

I do not despair at all, but wait in the wings when I can bake delicious bread without any problems!

So there is nothing to blame yourself for, you need to return the stove or return or repair and bake your crispy bread
Plaksa_vaksa
visited the service center! I have the impression that no one likes us (consumers)! neither sellers, nor service providers. Apparently, nothing has changed since the time of Doctor Zhivago!
Tanyusha
Plaksa_vaksa so what did they say in the service with the stove?
Plaksa_vaksa
Will be testing ...
Plaksa_vaksa
WEEK !!!
Plaksa_vaksa
what I told them about the breakdown does not bother them. That the program works, but there is no temperature change in the shadow. Proto there some resistor or thermal sensor does not work. The master took offense at me. very smart --- said
Rustic stove
Quote: Plaksa_vaksa

what I told them about the breakdown does not bother them. That the program works, but there is no temperature change in the shadow. Proto there some resistor or thermal sensor does not work. The master took offense at me. very smart --- said

And what paper did they give you instead of the stove?
You are in Russia? It's just that we don't seem to have such a concept as "testing" in the law.
I think you have the right to demand a normal examination (or warranty repair at your discretion).

And one more thing: when describing faults, do not write down the possible causes of faults, just describe the fault in your own words.
Plaksa_vaksa
yes, the paper was given,

but in faults indicated that it does not work
Andrei
They didn't rude to me in the service, but I felt that I just got into a consumer for a long time ... And now I have been suffering with my 5004 for a month now. Tomorrow I'll read a letter from the store.
Andrei
Quote: Julay

Something I'm looking at mine, maybe a fake?

Yes, it is unlikely, I saw different color versions of the 5004s, just plastic of a different color, that's all
Julai
What can I tell you! Here I am! novice baker with Moulinexa 5004! something is being baked, but I will tell you how it will be ready!
Bulkin
Several years ago I was treated to bread baked in a bread maker. I have not tasted any more delicious bread. Since then, I have cherished the dream of acquiring this miracle of technology. And now, it finally happened !!! I am a happy owner of HP.
I immediately bought the scales. And today, hands trembling with impatience, began to fall asleep "ingredients". Just in case, I decided to start with the simplest.
And now, after only three hours, the first bun was born. Hurrah!!! The most delicious bread. I swept half a loaf with milk in a few minutes. What a tasty treat ... and it's just simple bread, and if you fantasize there ... What will it turn out, huh?

Moulinex OW 5004 Home Bread Baguette

This is my first bread.
Viki
Here's a new one, and with what a handsome bread!
Congratulations! Dreams Come True! Now you are a baker too!
I understand that you have a model 5004 ?! Now is the turn for baguettes? We will wait for pictures of baguettes! GOOD LUCK!
Bee
Congratulations on your successful purchase and delicious bread! You do not get carried away with hot bread - it will not bring any benefit, you will quickly find out where the pancreas is. And you will not take endurance: I cannot wait a couple of weeks for the stove, but you have been waiting for it for several years.
Bulkin
Quote: Viki

Now is the turn for baguettes? Let's wait for pictures of baguettes! GOOD LUCK!
... I could not help trying to make baguettes. Well, and not just like that, some of them stuffed cheese. It turned out a little harsh. What's wrong with the test?
Moulinex OW 5004 Home Bread Baguette
Moulinex OW 5004 Home Bread Baguette
bowt
Good time!
I choose HP.

I want to know if someone kneaded pasta dough in proportions and volume exactly according to the instructions for Moulinex OW 5004. Does OW 5004 knead this really? Oh-very steep dough should be obtained.
Thank you. Happy girls!
lira70
I will repeat my photos:
1.Baguettes.
smeared with an egg on top, added olive oil -2 tbsp. l and sugar as advised in the instructions.
Moulinex OW 5004 Home Bread Baguette
2.it plain white bread, from the instructions: as I was told: it is clear that the bread is made of 2 koloboks (there are two mixers)
Moulinex OW 5004 Home Bread Baguette

3.it is bread with a name LACTIC, but it is very sweet and very suitable for tea, the soup will not go with it))) It turned out to be crooked, it was necessary to straighten it at the end of the batch ... All the same, 2 stirrers .. not very ... everything is crooked .. why- then .. In the next oraz I will follow and armpit

Moulinex OW 5004 Home Bread Baguette

4.Cake from book. It was done by my son when we were at work. came home, and there were such smells ... just like near a confectioner's bakery ... very tasty ...
From the recipe, he did not add: Rum, because we do not have it, rubbed the zest from the lemon, and took the concentrated juice, that is, he did not squeeze it out of the lemon.

Moulinex OW 5004 Home Bread Baguette

but he is sideways, for some reason the cupcakes do not come out high, that in the Panas he gets me short. whats up..
Moulinex OW 5004 Home Bread Baguette
lira70
bowt
I only put pizza dough there. there was a bucket full of dough. we got 18 pizzas with a diameter of 18 cm, 2 large pizzas, 1 medium.
In Panasonic, the tetso for dumplings and noodles is kneaded perfectly, but here I haven't had time to check it yet.
bowt
Quote: lira70

bowt
..., but I haven't had time to check it yet.

Get to the pasta dough recipe from the Moulinex 5004 manual, unsubscribe. It will be interesting - very much 5004 differs in this test from other HPs both in steepness and volume
Your baking results are impressive! Craftsmanship!
Good luck! Happy Holidays!
Bunny
it's probably because of the filling
Bulkin
Quote: Bunny

it's probably because of the filling
Unlikely, since one baguette was without filling, but it also turned out to be harsh.
So nothing to do with the filling. Did something wrong with the test. No, everything is delicious, but I would like to be softer.
Bunny
What recipe do you use? maybe I can help ...
lira70
Hello everyone!
I checked a bunch of recipes from the book, baked (page 40 in the book)
White bread
Warm water: 400 ml
• Salt: 2 tsp.
• Sugar: 1 tbsp. l.
• Wheat flour: 700 gr
• Dry baker's yeast:
1.5 tsp.
but I still add olive oil a little 2 tbsp. l.
It turned out to be delicious with a good crust, with a very tasty crust!
there is a photo, but at home)))

and also baked the night before yesterday, this (p. 72) photo is also later)

Bun
Milk: 80 ml
• Eggs: 4
• Butter: 200 gr
• Salt: 2 tsp.
• Sugar: 70 gr
• Wheat flour: 575 gr
• Dry baker's yeast: 3.5 tsp.

Yesterday I gave my husband half of it to work - I flew away at once .. my husband said that he really liked this bun.
And the son said one thing, "I can't tear myself away")))
But again, I drain instead of oil. I put the Fire Stove margarine in there.
And she did a stupid thing - she put the darkest crust - there was no need to do this, otherwise the walls were already burnt!
(and even put it on 1500 kg. But nevertheless, the weight of him or her (like a loaf of bread, but it looks like bread))) turned out to be 999 grams)))
Moreover, when I cut it (well, I cut half of it), the middle, as it were, was torn, like with buns.
I'll post a photo either tonight or tomorrow.
lira70
Bunny
and help me with the recipe for baguette dough, the meyan ones turned out to be beautiful, though they were devoured by my men, but for me they are also kind of harsh ..

I made it according to the recipe from the instructions and added sugar and olive. oil. eh

P.S.
I don't remember whether I said it or not, but when my son saw your baguettes, he said, "Mom, persuade dad to use this stove, I want those baguettes"))) (this is my second stove)

Bulkin
The first bread beyond all praise! Just perfect!
I don't have such an upper hand in moulinex ...
Celestine
Quote: lira70

Moreover, when I cut it (well, I cut half of it), then the middle, as it were, was torn, like with buns.
I'll post a photo either tonight or tomorrow.

Or they cut it while it was still hot, or a knife without teeth (bread)
Bunny
I have a very small secret - I make a dough according to a simple recipe, add milk powder, and when I already put the molded baguettes into molds, I do not immediately turn on the bread maker, but after 20-30 minutes ... and they still grow during this time ...
Grechka
We bought a new stove !!!
Bakes awesomely with two tens. The baguettes are super!
The bread was tasted according to the "Simple" recipe (only fried onions were added. Very well-risen and delicious
lira70
Bunny
thanks for the secret, and how much dry. milk?
Bunny
that I put on the eye .. about 1-2 teaspoons
Grechka
Good day!
I kneaded the peasant, but what happened? Look!
Everything is according to the recipe from the attached book, only instead of 330g of wheat I put 165g of wheat and 165g of buckwheat (I love her very much!), Well, also dry kvass. The liquid turned out to be not enough, the nerves could not stand it splashed a little more ...
I set the program to 1 kg, and the bread came out 1345! (I now also have scales, it's very convenient with them!)
Tasty!!! (y) Though curly
ZUVS
PLEASE tell me who tried the pilmeni dough very important (we often make dumplings)

How did you interfere if you noticed (strongly puffed up)?

And then, I almost shake my machine, I really like the link to order everything else
ZUVS
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And then, I almost shake my machine, I really like the link to order everything else

Excuse me, with the MOUSE and not (with the mouse)
ZUVS
And another question Who has not tried to make custard bread yet?
lira70
Celestine
I cut the bread cold, and with a knife (I don't remember which one) I cut the bread all the time on a slicer, but you can't cut half of it there)))
but THAT IS A RATED CUT - WELL IT IS LIKE NOT A MINUS, BUT MORE THAN PLUS - IT IS SEVERABLE
GOOD BULK.
here is finally a photo:
specially snapped the second half sideways, you can see what holes the stirrers left)))

Moulinex OW 5004 Home Bread Baguette

Grechka
EXCELLENT BREAD !!!
WILL NEED TO REPEAT ...
Grechka
Thank you!
I also photographed the holes from the stirrers - impressive. probably they should be taken out.

And yesterday we got a great cupcake. I didn't even have time for a fotik

The stove is cool! (y) I'll go get something else
Uncle Sam
Quote: ZUVS

And another question Who has not tried to make custard bread yet?

What's the recipe in your book?
I baked a french custard gag. I really liked it.
Grechka
Uncle Sam, can you tell us more about the "gag"?
Maybe we will succeed
Thank you!
ZUVS
I already asked, but no one answered https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=2446.new;topicseen#new

Tell me PLEASE who tried the pilmen dough ??? very important (we often make dumplings)

How did you interfere if you noticed (strongly puffed up)?
ZUVS
PS. Already ordered waiting))) 5004

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