NatalyaN
The second bucket is not cheap, when I thought to make 5004 out of my 5002, I thought that "the game is not worth the candle." I had to buy a stand for baguettes with two prototypes, a brush, a knife and (if the upper baguettes were not baked, then ask to put an additional ten in the service). So one form with a stand came out in the region of UAH 267 (I already forgot the exact figure), and this is 53-59 dollars (depending on the dollar exchange rate), and the second one for baguettes (for some reason, the stand and two forms do not go together) cost 115 UAH (23-25 ​​dollars), a brush and a knife cost 25 UAH each (this is also 10-11 dollars), for ten and work, I’m already silent ... And the difference in the store between the two models is 10-20 dollars. Not sickly Upgrade is obtained.
Mashenka
Quote: NataliaN

The second bucket is not cheap, when I thought to make 5004 out of my 5002, I thought that "the game is not worth the candle." I had to buy a stand for baguettes with two prototypes, a brush, a knife and (if the upper baguettes were not baked, then ask to put an additional ten in the service). So one form with a stand came out in the region of UAH 267 (I already forgot the exact figure), and this is 53-59 dollars (depending on the dollar exchange rate), and the second one for baguettes (for some reason, the stand and two forms do not go together) cost 115 UAH (23-25 ​​dollars), a brush and a knife cost 25 UAH each (this is also 10-11 dollars), for ten and work I’m already silent ... And the difference in the store between the two models is 10-20 dollars. Not sickly Upgrade is obtained.
and in 5002 mulk one ten?
NatalyaN
Quote: Mashenka

Well, maybe not for myself, but give my mother-in-law.

When I brought Moulinex 5002 home to my mother-in-law (a gift to my husband from friends in the DR, which I really ordered), we drove home through them, and began to show delighted with this wonderful oven, and even talk about the gluten-free regime (they have diabetes) , but I also bought a stove in order to bake them; you can believe, she didn’t even look at me, and she didn’t eat the bread that I brought them, but for her father-in-law she said: "He will not bring him, he will eat everything, but he cannot." Only 5 months later, after once again baking a mountain of different breads for her DR to treat employees to work, and after everyone was praising her daughter-in-law, she told a story.
They were vacationing at sea with two families (they always travel together) and met a man who leads a healthy lifestyle, observes the food culture and bakes different breads in a bread machine himself. He and his girlfriend just looked at each other, then giggled together, they say, why bake bread, because the store is full of any and with additives, and whatever you want.
So, before buying a mother-in-law, think about whether she needs her? I bought myself a second one (DeLonghi 125S) on the sly, they say to my mother (she lives in Crimea, and where she lives is disgusting bread, even my husband admits that with a bread maker I have to go there). This is then I already, if after all my experiments I decide that it is better, then I'll buy myself.
NatalyaN
Quote: Mashenka

and in 5002 mulk one ten?
Yes, one, when I ordered it 5004 has not yet come out.
Moby
I, as I said, will buy a bread maker at the weekend and now a miracle happened! I bought Mulya 5004. I haven't baked anything yet, I just bought flour, I will bake baguettes in the morning! I want to try the lightest from the first pages of the book for now.
Moby
this is the first baguette in my life.
true from above the view of flour spoils and is pale
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tell me what is the main mode on the mule and how to add the time in stages if I see that the bread is pale.
Bunny
in my opinion great baguettes! there is a program - just baking "- there it is added for 10 minutes ...
tenidia
Natalyan! When comparing, which is better?
Mueslik
Quote: tenidia

Natalyan! When comparing, which is better?
tenidia, look at here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=4172.0
TatSU
Quote: Moby

this is the first baguette in my life.
true from above the view of flour spoils and is pale

Bunny, thanks a lot to her, she has already revealed one of her own secret of making baguettes - she adds powdered milk - a couple of tablespoons.

And as far as I remember, here on the forum they wrote that when you add milk (in the form of a liquid, of course you will need to subtract the corresponding amount of added water), the color of the crust becomes darker.

In general, your first two baguettes on the top photo are just very nice
NatalyaN
Quote: tenidia

Natalyan! When comparing, which is better?

It's funny to say, but each has its own advantages.
Helga_r
Hello everyone!!!!! They brought us a bread maker yesterday! Thank God, we didn't think for a long time when choosing a model, Mulenex made an attractive advertisement for the new HP 5004
And I didn't have to beg my husband at all
We ordered it in Technosila (Moscow), through an online store and it left us 4990 rubles (free delivery). Yesterday they baked simple bread, and it turned out just super !!!!! We thought we would eat a loaf
days 2 ... and in the end, after 20 minutes, a little less than half remained
And this morning my husband and I baked baguettes! They look delicious, but the taste is simply divine!
Glad to join you! So, now I will also share my creations!
Helga_r
Today I have already baked baguettes 2 times .... I did the first with sesame seeds and poppy seeds (sprinkled on top), before sprinkling with seeds, I smeared with water. As I wrote, everything turned out very tasty. But the 2nd batch (also with sesame and poppy seeds) decided to grease with olive oil, not water. In the end, they are just as tasty, but the seeds from the baguettes are crumbling ...
It was decided to grease the baguettes with olive oil only without adding any seeds, since the crust with it still turned out to be very golden
By the way, I also added olive oil (1 tsp) to the dough in both the first and second cases ...
Gordy
Hello dear bakers! So I became the proud owner of Moulinex OW 5004, before it I had the simplest LG, we got along very well, but seduced by baguettes, I bought Moulinex, so far, somehow, the relationship does not add up. The baguettes turned out to be good, though the second time, but with bread they were not lucky. The thing is that I just can't figure out the dosage of flour, in the old HP everything was measured in a glass, and in the new one all the recipes are in grams, there are no weights yet, and the graduation of the glass is not clear to me. Please write how many grams of flour are included in the glass attached to the hp. And yet, all the recipes in the book are given at the rate of 1000g, but if I want to make a loaf of less weight, then the number of products must be recalculated proportionally?
Thank you very much in advance.
Viki
Gordy, Congratulations! Now you will definitely get delicious baguettes! And the answers to your questions are here:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...mf&Itemid=26&topic=4299.0
and here: https: //Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=85.0
But it is better to buy a scale and immediately solve most of the problems. Good luck and delicious bread from the new HP!
miklef
I bought this stove. With a closer study of the build quality of the product, questions arose that did not arise when purchasing the Panasonic 255.
When answering the topic, I earnestly ask you not to describe what wonderful bread turns out, at the moment it is not interesting to me. I hope you will treat my request with understanding!
So, let's begin.
Probably the first and only complaint at the moment is the build quality.
The stove is all kind of a curve, uneven seams, burrs, when you click on individual parts, you can see how they "play". Loose fit of the lid, especially at the location of the hinges, the gap around the perimeter varies from 1 to 3 mm, if you press with your hand, the lid can sit more tightly ...
As you understand when comparing with the build quality of Panasonic earth and sky ...
So the question is, do you have a cover on the stove just as loosely or is it an assembly defect?
I want to understand this for everyone, or I was very lucky and I have to carry it to change
hz31
I have exactly the same stove. Burrs and curvatures are nowhere to be found, but the lid near the hinges also does not fit snugly.
Mueslik
I have another model Mulya5002, I was looking for burrs on purpose, I did not find a single one, everything is smooth, even. The lid also lies flat, does not respond to pressing, as it lay and lies. Normal impression from the assembly, everything is neat. Maybe you got a fake, they say, hardworking Vietnamese collect in basements
Try rubbing the inscriptions with a damp cloth - on fakes, they are erased
Antonova
And I have small burrs at the seams, but nothing walks. The inscriptions are scratched. The lid fits snugly. But in general, if the soul does not lie, change. This did not affect me and the quality of the bread.
Zest
I am now choosing a second bread machine and once again I looked at Moulinex 5004 live. I don't think this is the way it should be, for the build quality to leave much to be desired. However, to our great regret, this is how it is: the lid "walks", the seams are flimsy, the impression is unreliable. Maybe they all come to us from different sources, but the ones that I happened to see looked rather pitiful.
Makhno
A couple of days ago I purchased Moulinex 5004, the quality is normal, everything fits, the plastics are smooth. Bakes fine. baked for the first time 3 loaves. 2 white and 1 rye, all without problems
Helga_r
I have HP Mulenex 5004 for 2.5 weeks and it makes me more and more happy and only happy! ))))
During this time, baguettes were made with wheat flour: with the addition of cheese, olives, poppy seeds and sesame seeds. Also, baguettes were baked more than once with the addition of rye flour: I also added cheese and walnuts. Everything is baked, rises, and browns just super !!!! ))
Also baked from a recipe book: simple bread, traditional bread.
Today I baked Darnitsky bread, the recipe is taken from this wonderful site! I didn't expect such a result ..... REAL DARNITSKY BREAD !!!!! Thanks to Fugasca for the recipe !!!! ))
And yesterday I baked a cake "Kugloff" (recipes from a book for HP) True, according to the recipe, there are raisins and almonds, but I also added dried apricots and hazelnuts (200 g in total), and 1 tsp of cinnamon. Everyone really liked the people in the mortality, the dough is airy, light ...
I didn’t expect that I would like the oven so much, now I even bake in my sleep ... Maybe everyone has such an initial syndrome ... Or is it just me "cuckoo" ?!
Mueslik
What are you? There is a whole forum of such "ku-ku"! Read here:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&Itemid=115&topic=3439.0
Makhno
And the stove pleases because. that not every HP has 2 ten. Moreover, they are located as it should.
And the motor is powerful, it seems to me.
Peck only three times, and all is well.
Especially KEKS. from the book .... it's generally super. True, the oil is too much, but the taste is awesome
selasel
Yesterday I bought a stove, I haven't quite figured it out yet.
Maybe in the course, there is a mode for making unleavened noodle dough? The 5002 OW model seems to be there, the instructions say the 12th mode. And in the 5004th model there is a "baguette" in the 12th mode. But the recipe book says that you can. Does anyone know? Pliz, answer
ZUVS
Hello everyone
Please help, who has a collection of normal recipes under 5004
please share (otherwise this book drops me out, I threw it out, I got some kind of clumsy got it, on 4 pages in the recipes, grams are not indicated at all)
it is written - flour oil, and how many grams (figure it out yourself)

Thanks in advance to Alexander!
PS. HORROR I wrote to the manufacturer (they answered like they know) Is it really so difficult to write normally ((besides, and more errors in numbers (
Elena Bo
Download from the site #
Elena Bo
ZUVS, no need to write the same thing in different topics. See the answer here
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=2383.0
ZUVS
Attentive)) I will no longer!
But I wanted to ask for recipes who have their own, for example (favorites) and not from the manufacturer of VO
Elena Bo
For your HP (as well as for everyone else) all recipes from this forum are suitable, since they are universal. Choose any you like and bake for health
Makhno
ZUVS I baked Keks from the book, exactly according to the recipe ... it's just a BOMB. what I love.
And also "White bread", but replaced the house instead of water. kvass.
For the first time I heard the smell of delicious bread in my apartment; it was odorless on the water.
Yes, I almost forgot ... I threw 2 pinches of coriander.
Romashka.123
Hello! I am now also a happy owner of this bread machine
I'm interested in this, who tried to knead the dough for dumplings / dumplings / noodles? in what mode ??? I already at home realized that there is no such regime in general, or should I knead it on yeast dough?
there are homemade noodles in the recipe book and it is proposed to knead it on mode 12 (these are baguettes), although the recipe book I have already corrected, there are no typos about which it says here, but with a cool dough such nonsense
so I'm completely confused, please help who has experience.
Makhno
Yeast dough mode 1h20 m
During this time, she will mix it and raise it
On baguettes, this is the case
There are 2 stages ...
Stage 1 dough kneading
Then there is a pause for 1 hour, in order to form the baguettes, while the light blinks and pauses.
When you put the baguettes into the stove, press the button 1 more time, and the process continues. only baked goods

Conclusion:
Theoretically Mona do it there and there.
But on dumplings, I think Baguette mode is better.
Moby
wow, where did you buy that you got such a stove ???
Uliri
Here someone has already talked about such a problem: too strong heating of the elements. Here we have the same garbage - today they baked the second bread in the life of this model with us, got it 4 minutes before the "official" readiness, and that was too ruddy, brown. And how are you? Running in and getting better, or a marriage?
shade
peace be with you bakers
Moulinex 5004 I have recently
I tried a lot of recipes from the book, everything works out !!!!
and it turns out very good !!!!
but with baguettes not very
the taste is excellent, the crumb is porous, straight air
but here's the crust ........ you can kill it
looks like a steering wheel inside which you crumble.
of course there may be someone who has been fighting for several years
to get it that way
but I would have a baguette
if you have any considerations please share
I put it and do everything exactly according to the recipe I hang it on an electric scale
and someone else can tell
if you use crumpet margarine instead of butter
salt must be added by prescription or less
because margarine, unlike butter, contains salt
thanks in advance for the help
Moby
I've baked 6 times already, nothing like this happened! What crust are you betting on? maybe too dark? look at the lcd monitor, my model does not have many arrows indicating the crust is not so exposed.
the stove heats up properly. the only thing when they turned it on once it was burned not a lot, it stank and that's it.
Sooooo happy with my Mulechka !!!!!!!
Makhno
I am personally happy with the stove, but not very much with the recipes yet
Today I made baguettes for the first time, they turned out like great, but ..... very dry, especially the oak crust turns out. While I had eaten them, my mouth already ached.
Here is such a fikhnya little girl, love lads, little girl ...
Uliri
Moby, I put the lightest crust, and it still burns ... And it turns out to be low, apparently the yeast heats up too early. They made baguettes, they were taken out 14 minutes before readiness - absolutely baked and ruddy
I have Moulinex 5002 at home, and they bought them specially with baguettes for work (ours really liked the bread that I carried to work)
I am inclined to think that this is still a marriage, and it is necessary to change ...
Moby
Of course, give it up before it's too late. I ugh ugh was not like that. I don't even follow the bun, the dough is always excellent.
the only thing that bothered me. this is what I got out of the frozen commercial dough, and decided to bake in a bread maker with a filling like mini hot dogs with sausage. put on the mode just cooking. for 20 minutes. and at the end of the program my stove made no sound. I thought maybe not so. but the next day I decided to bake again and there was no sound either. maybe it should, of course, I don't know. it's just that the instructions don't say anything about the signal.
on other programs, at the end of the work, the signal gives and when it is necessary to fill in the ingredients
Of course I understand this is not so important, but still!
Uliri
The Technopark online store refuses to accept the stove for repair or exchange. He says that they are an Internet store and therefore the consumer protection law does not apply to them. They offer to take it yourself to the service center, despite the fact that not even 2 weeks have passed since the date of purchase. I just go nuts from our sellers ...
Moby
this is an excuse, they just don't want to get involved. for all the rights are the same. intimidate them tell wake to sue !!!!!!!
Andrei
These are big words ... It's not so easy to sue and seek the truth. I went through it all
If you want, see the topic "How to behave if the bread maker breaks down"
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&Itemid=99&topic=2671.0

Everything is written there step by step. What to write, where to go
Moby
I say intimidate. and not to sue for real! each service has its own people, you did it differently with your medotode. in any case, we must act.
Uliri
The link is interesting, I will definitely study it thoughtfully.
There is one big problem - the stove was bought by a legal entity, so the only way out is to sue the store. There is no time for this, we have a small, almost family-owned company, and there is a lot of work. My manager is on vacation, will come in 2 weeks and take her by car to the service center. In the meantime, we will "graze" so that the bread does not burn. It is a pity that it is impossible to put on a delay with this particular stove so that we come in the morning - and we were greeted by the aroma of freshly baked bread ...
We already bought equipment for the office, we have a strong department in the city for consumer protection, but they only help individuals.
Moby
how is it impossible? in the 5004 model you can set a delay, and in the morning or in the evening at any time when you need ready-made bread !!!!!!!!
Uliri
We don't always come ... mmm ... on time for work, there are half-hour delays, rarely - but there are also longer delays. And as the bread must be "grazed" and taken out in time - we will receive only the burners at the exit. And it is impossible to put on a later deferral, it turns out 14-15 hours of deferral
nodarievna
Quote: Uliri

The Technopark online store refuses to accept the stove for repair or exchange. He says that they are an Internet store and therefore the consumer protection law does not apply to them. They offer to take it yourself to the service center, despite the fact that not even 2 weeks have passed since the date of purchase. I just go nuts from our sellers ...
we have almost the same situation, and in general a lot of people have problems with the equipment of their techno park, although prices are way more expensive than in other places
Of course, I wrote them an angry letter addressed to the director of the branch and made them sign on receipt and seal, but to be honest, I'm too lazy to get in touch, that's why I just ordered the same one on the techhome website on the same day. bye tfu-tfu-tfu
conclusion: by all accounts it is not worth buying equipment in the technopark
Moby
someone can spit and buy a new one. but not all of them. if the situation touched me, I would achieve my goal. because I hardly found my 6 thousand, and I could not spit and buy a new one.
nodarievna
Quote: Moby

someone can spit and buy a new one. but not all of them. if the situation touched me, I would achieve my goal. because I hardly found my 6 thousand, and I could not spit and buy a new one.

sleepy
we honestly tried to achieve something
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...tion=com_smf&topic=4176.0
but firstly, I really didn’t want to wait either 21 days or 2 weeks, and my husband had to carry her
secondly, but now I have 2 sets of buckets (by the way, it's very convenient if you cook in a row, for example, a cupcake and jam)
and thirdly, if SUDDENLY it will be replaced or repaired, we will gladly take her to the dacha)

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