Irishka CH
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: o Is it you who were talking to? No, I'm serious. When an oak tree (I only know ON and OFF), such a text reads like a science fiction story
marinastom
Irish, hello! Don't worry, show your son, he will translate.
Irishka CH
Marisha!
I'm not worried, but I'm just kidding. Che to pester my son, I still don’t understand anything, but he’s in tanks now!
Wit
And how many battles?

Irishka CH
Vital, I have no idea! Shcha squealed that he was taken to some stream. But mostly he swears and gets angry! Well, I am the tundra! I don't get into all these toys. I don't even try to understand. The head is busy with the other.
They flooded the topic ...
marinastom
Sometimes you need to, otherwise you see, you know! ..
irman
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: o Is it you who were talking to? No, I'm serious. When an oak tree (I only know ON and OFF), such a text reads like a science fiction story
Irishka, friend, as I understand thee.
entin
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as I understand you

Mdyaya ..., I had to sit down for six months at the computer, but now I have no secrets in the correspondence of my children, even password-protected ... in any networks ... You should have seen their eyes when I told them about their "eccentricities" ...
The question is, how to wash the oven inside? Well, he doesn't take anything. For a year and a half - rub, rub, but fuck it, SIF can, but there are tena, ochchchen tenderly needed ... Where to look? or someone has experience. I read it, but many have not solved this problem. That is why I am asking here. No, of course, beautiful, baked so all, working, but ...
Wit
I join the question!
marinastom
Guys, I washed it with chemicals and a steam generator. The results are great and we are all alive. Vital, you probably remember, I also tortured everyone. As a result, Masha-Wasp she told me how to do it. Now, look for pictures.
Wit
We are waiting, Marinochka!
marinastom
There is no "before" kind, only after.
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Wit
Marinochka, chemistry in the studio!
marinastom
Vital, maybe it was not in vain that he bought a pair of hair for his wife? You look, and it will come in handy ...
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Marinochka, chemistry in the studio!
Damn, some kind of fat. Maybe a "grease remover for non-stick surfaces", yeah, right, this one. In Ashany there is.
Wit
Aaaaaaaa! I'm accustomed to pedantry !!!!! Remember, pzhalstaaaa !!!
marinastom
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I'm accustomed to pedantry !!!!!

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Wit
Woooot!
sazalexter
entin, Do you need to "check or go"? Are we for HP or is it for us? I don't even think about washing my "work horse"
There is something to do and more interesting. Moreover, the manufacturer does not provide for this
marinastom
Well V is not kind, Oleksandr! Maybe the person has woken up perfectionism.
Wit
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Moreover, this is not provided by the manufacturer
By the way, foreseeable. Page 16 Operating instructions!
entin
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entin, do you need to "check or go"?

Do you like to ride in checkered, but smoky, brown ?! And with a layer of fat? In my car, in the kitchen, I love to cook, - always tidy, even when cutting food ... clean ..
Quote: marinastom
the person woke up perfectionism.
Girl-Marinocha ... right! I have a klikuha - a perfectionist ... My clients say: if expensive cars are near the office, then Valentin works ... But Valentin does not work with everyone. The reason, you determined - a perfectionist .. The client lied - "goodbye" for many years ...
So your "joke" turned out to be not a joke at all, but a hit in the top 10. Bravo!
marinastom

Are there really clean men? You need to go to muzEy, Valentine!
Wit
And you are so about muzhikaaah ?!
entin
marinastom
... no in a business, the museum scares me ... And I know enough men who are annoyed by gonorrhea literally and figuratively. Their business, and their house is in order. It amazes me that clean men are rare. Maybe a profession, although no, on the contrary, the essence is probably choosing a profession ... In general, I know a lot of men who keep their everyday life in their hands and don't let their ladies go there.
Marinocha-devovocha, we can not be "brought" there yet ...
entin
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"grease remover for non-stick surfaces", yeah, right, this one. In Auchan there is.

Is it the same for everyone? That is, there is no surface classification? Well, there on the strength of the impact, .. so as not to damage?
sazalexter
Wit, From the instructions.
In order not to damage your bakery ...
 Do not use abrasive substances
(detergents, cleaning pastes, etc.)
 Do not wash parts of your bakery in
dishwasher safe!
Do not use benzene, solvents
or alcohol!

 After washing all washable parts, wipe them dry
kitchen towel. Always keep
bakery clean and well wiped
That is, no aggressive means, the maximum is fairies!
Grease remover composition
Purified water, non-surfactant less than 5%, alkaline (alkaline) components 5 - 15%,
solvents less than 5%,
functional additives less than 5%, dye less than 5%.
In a bottle of 500 ml.
An aggressive environment that you can never really wash, corrosion is further ensured
sazalexter
We have on the topic How and how to clean the stove / bucket whole branch https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=923.0
I ask you to move there on the topic.
marinastom
I will repeat myself here for the last time.
I began to wash my stove inside, because it was all in a spray of baked butter and other liquids. I agree, perhaps this is not useful for the device, but I did everything very carefully, poured liquids to a minimum, immediately wiped everything dry. I used the device no earlier than a day later.
poncik
My bread. HP 2501.
Recipe number 3, L, medium crust.
He made changes to the recipe: first he poured water from the tap, added salt and sugar to the water according to the recipe, 30 gr. sunflower oil (in the recipe 30 gr. butter)
On top, in the water with butter, salt and sugar, added flour, the weight of which is according to the recipe. Sifted flour through Ikeevsky drushlag, Ashanovskaya flour (Our product). Poured SAF yeast on the flour, weight according to the recipe. Raisins 100 gr. put in the dispenser. Ashanovsky raisins, not sticky, prescription weight. I didn’t wash the raisins, I just went over the specks. There is nothing left in the dispenser.
Timer for 6 hours plus 4 hours of cooking.
In the morning I got up, tore my eyes and, in fact, here:
Under the crust on top is a whole crumb, not air.
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Ninelle
poncik, very beautiful bread, why don't you wash the raisins? Not only do I wash it, I also scald it with boiling water ... but in order not to stick: firstly, dry; and secondly, I roll it in a little flour. But maybe you don't need to wash it according to the recipe? As in kvass, for example.
poncik
Raisins did not consciously wash.
1. To avoid stuck in the dispenser.
2. In order not to introduce excess moisture into the dough.
I was looking for raisins for a long time, I chose a dryish top and not sticky. Ashanovsky fit perfectly.
Shl. I also thought to wash the raisins and roll them in flour, but refused that either. The raisins are added to the almost finished dough and the flour from the raisins will enter the finished dough with dissonance.
As my example showed, there were no problems with raisins.
But most importantly, the bread rose and baked perfectly. The top has not fallen off.
All products are available in Auchan, that is, throughout the country.
The recipe is 100% reproducible.
Ninelle
poncik, perhaps, but I bake both sweet bread and kulich and what I call "Bulich" with washed raisins, but I have my own quirks, I wash everything. And my raisins, nuts and other sweets and dry, sometimes in the airfryer, on the drying program. You have a very beautiful bread and I think it is very tasty.
poncik
I'm glad I liked the bread.
I, too, have cleanliness and food safety not in the last place.
But sometimes I take into account the nuances. In this particular case, I can compare it with semolina, which I also do not wash.
The bread really came out, half a loaf for two in half a day.
Ninelle
And I meet my husband with hot carrot and nut bread, according to Tanyul's recipe.
poncik
Lucky for your husband!
At first, my wife did not believe that "this thing" is able to bake normal bread that can be eaten.
She doesn't bake with me. Now my wife's opinion has changed. Wants to make dough and make dumplings.
I have a problem to buy second-grade flour in Moscow. Whole, packed at the factory not from a bag on the market.
The highest grade is sold everywhere.
Just some kind of laughter.
You can't buy flour in Moscow.
Ninelle
poncik, but just a general purpose GOST? And in my opinion, Admin-Tanya has a recipe for making a second grade from the highest grade. But now, in a temperature state, I may not remember exactly, look in the branches.
marinastom
Our first grade flour is often sold in Pyaterochki, maybe you, in the capitals, have it.
Ninelle
marinastom, the second is needed, I also faced this.
Ninelle
poncik, The bread maker advises you to look here: 🔗
poncik
Thank you very much for the tattoo. How to buy, unsubscribe for the result ...
I can tell you that flour appeared in Ashan c. from. with a gluten content of 12% marked "Panasonic".
The cost of 2 kg is 60 rubles. , for comparison, in the store "7th Continent" flour 12% gluten is called "imported" and costs about 350 rubles per 1 kg !!!
poncik
I got 5 kg. flour of the second grade in its original packaging (sewn bag with a tag). The cost is 150 rubles for 5 kg.
Flour is on sale in North Butovo near the metro station in the Kvadrat shopping center.
The price turned out to be almost three times cheaper than on Preobrazhenka, where 1kg. costs 70 rubles.

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For comparison, the cost is 2 kg. flour c. from. bought in Magnet is 32 rubles.
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These are the Moscow paradoxes. 2 kg. in. from. cheaper than 1 kg 2 grade
In search of a second grade, I discovered that church shops are actively selling this flour. It is pasted over with crosses and spas and sold for 150 rubles. kg. ...
Why am I looking for a second grade?
My wife is panicky afraid of getting fat, when she found out about bread made from premium flour, she was immediately worried.
I reassured that I would add a second grade and this will have a positive effect on the figure.
The second reason is the normalization of the density of the bread crumb.

Ekaterina2
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For the first time before baking, I sprinkled sesame seeds on the bread for beauty and interest
poncik
Baked bread with flour mixture c. from. and second grade.
The recipe is based on:
Sliced ​​loaf of wheat flour, premium grade according to GOST 27844 - 88
I made changes to the recipe.
1. Didn't use the dough.
2. Margarine was introduced into the dough by dissolving it in warm water.
Bread recipe:
Flour in. from. 250 gr.
Flour 2c. 250 gr.
Water 330 ml.
Salt 1.5 tsp
Sugar 1.5 tbsp. l.
Margarine 17 gr.
Vegetable oil 3 gr.
SAF yeast 1.5. Art. l.
Flour in. with "Our product" (Auchan), SAF yeast, nouname margarine the cheapest (for baking) for 9.80 a pack. Flour of the second grade, see the photo above
Dissolve margarine, salt, sugar in 150 ml. boiling water, pour it into a bowl, add the remaining water so that the temperature of the entire liquid is 25-30 degrees
I add flour on top. Flour is sifted through a rare sieve.
Pour yeast on top of the flour.
Program number 1, size L, dark crust.
The dough rose above the mold, the loaf was baked and did not fall.
The crumb did not leave the crust,

The weight of the finished bread was 750 grams, the yield was about 145%.
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Leshche
Hello everyone, yesterday my dream came true - I finally bought a Panasonic stove !!! I'll start experimenting tonight ...
* Anyuta *
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Hello everyone, yesterday my dream came true - I finally bought a Panasonic stove !!!
Congratulations! Bake some bread and enjoy homemade cakes now!
Read the topic for beginners right away in order to avoid mistakes and so that the first bread is successful!
irman
Leshche, congratulations on purchasing a good bread maker, I wish you delicious breads!
Ninelle
Donut, where did you get the second grade flour? I also want such goodies.
poncik
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Ekaterina2
Lelische, congratulations! Panasonic is reliable. Especially if you bought 2501, of course
Ninelle
poncik, A HUGE thanks, I just read the recipe from the phone, and now I read the previous posts. Let's try to drive it on the weekend. And then you want to save the remains of the figure.

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