Rina
magetaThanks for the info on the differences between yogurt makers. And then I am already ripe for a purchase, but I would not like to choose a "pig in a poke" either. In the meantime, I am quite satisfied with a food thermos.
uberipuzo
Quote: klv

I once did it in a large deep plate from a microwave set made of dark 1.5 liter glass, its bottom is not wide, probably, like a can. Everything worked out great.
what brand of your yogurt maker?
tusic
no. I did as it is written here. I think it's even easier than in a yogurt maker and doesn't waste 8 hours of energy. super https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=2389.0
Chantal
if you need a 3-liter jar or 2 or 5 three-liters of yogurt, then you can put in the oven for 40 grams, but where do you put all this wealth then ???
uberipuzo
Quote: fugaska

uberipuzo, don't go to extremes looking for a middle ground!
You can put a three-liter jar in a munieshka, but what's the point? the convenience of a yogurt maker is in jars! but if you want to give your child a jar of yogurt "with you", will you give the whole liter, or do you still put the portion in the very jar, which will then need to be washed in a specially purchased dishwasher?
everyone understands convenience in their own way ...

for example, it is more convenient for me to make (at a time) 5 liters of yogurt in 5 cans or bags
I put different leavens in each jar
and then each family member sets aside what yogurt he needs and how much he needs

5L is a little
and in a yoghurt maker it turns out less than 1l

I alone eat about a liter of yogurt a day
especially now - when I began to add frozen cherries or jam or strawberries with syrup to yogurt, etc.

if there was a yogurt maker on which you could put 5 liter cans ...
uberipuzo
Quote: Chantal

if you need a 3-liter jar or 2 or 5 three-liters of yogurt, then you can put in the oven for 40 grams, but where do you put all this wealth then ???
well ..... now I still have to buy an oven from 40 degrees .....
uberipuzo
Quote: tusic

no. I did as it is written here. I think that it's even easier than in a yogurt maker and doesn't waste 8 hours of energy. super https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=2389.0
I looked at this topic ...
again dancing with tambourines ...
and they write that the multicooker is not suitable for yoghurts

no, you need a device that would hold strictly 40 degrees
Ukka
And this device is a yogurt maker !!!
uberipuzo
Quote: uberipuzo

I looked at this topic ...
again dancing with tambourines ...
and they write that the multicooker is not suitable for yoghurts

no, you need a device that would hold strictly 40 degrees
read about multicooker
they do not have temperatures below 80 degrees at all
what kind of yogurt can you get?
maribraun
dear uberipuzo. You can't choose a village for everyone. There is a technique, we work with it. There is a yogurt maker, we make yogurt in it. Who doesn't have yogurt makers make yogurt in whatever they can. If you want an improved yoghurt maker - modify, patent - and go! At least 10 liters! Or questions to manufacturers.
By the way, our progress is moving because of male laziness. The wife left on a business trip, the husband was left alone with a mountain of dirty linen - there was an automatic washing machine, and then a dishwasher. Etc.
Move progress, dear!
maribraun
Imagine ... 10 liter yoghurt maker
Mams
Well, the volumes, guys ... For me, an ordinary yogurt maker for 7 cans is enough. Days for 2-3. Then I'll make it fresh. And 5 liters is half a bucket of yogurt?
uberipuzo
Quote: Mams

Well, the volumes, guys ... For me, an ordinary yogurt maker for 7 cans is enough. Days for 2-3. Then I'll make it fresh. And 5 liters is half a bucket of yogurt?
yeah nuuu ...
it's only five liter cans ...
Caprice
Directly industrial scale at home I have a yogurt maker for one liter container, but this liter is more than enough for me for a family, enough for a couple of days, and sometimes it stays.
Chantal
maribraun, well, I don’t know about the washing machine, but the dishwasher was actually invented by a woman

Quote: uberipuzo
for example, it is more convenient for me to make (at a time) 5 liters of yogurt in 5 cans or bags
Well, if so, then maybe you really should think about buying an electric oven? I have siemens, the temperature is set from 20 to 300g, 8 heating modes, i.e. in addition to baking itself, you can defrost, defrost the dough, replace the dryer and as it turned out, the yogurt maker also likes the shutdown timer, you can put something on with a delay in cooking (for example, dry without drying, or a pie for the morning), or, for example, I put dinner and went to gather a family around the city - a son from school, a husband from work, we arrived - a hot supper is waiting in the oven, and a hot bread is picking up in a bread maker - crrrasota!

oops and then Ostap suffered (s)
uberipuzo
Quote: maribraun

dear uberipuzo. You can't choose a village for everyone. There is a technique, we work with it. There is a yogurt maker, we make yogurt in it. Who doesn't have yogurt makers make yogurt in whatever they can. If you want an improved yoghurt maker - modify, patent - and go! At least 10 liters! Or questions to manufacturers.
By the way, our progress is moving because of male laziness. The wife left on a business trip, the husband was left alone with a mountain of dirty linen - there was an automatic washing machine, and then a dishwasher. Etc.
Move progress, dear!
I thought: can anyone know about other models besides Tefal and Moulinex?
I really liked the Israeli yogurt maker
but they don't sell it
some do in the oven at 40 degrees
some - in a microwave oven in fermentation mode

i don't want to reinvent the wheel
for sure there is already a device that suits me in terms of functions

and to find out, this forum exists, where interested people exchange information.
uberipuzo
Quote: Caprice

Directly industrial scale at home I have a yogurt maker for one liter container, but this liter is more than enough for me for a family, enough for a couple of days, and sometimes it stays.
such a design would suit me
can you tell me the brand?
but they probably don't sell it in Moscow time ...
obgorka_gu
Quote: uberipuzo

but I have a question for everyone:
Is it possible to pile a 1-2L jar on a yogurt maker?
if you remove the small jars, is there a place where the heating element touches the bottom of the jar on the yogurt maker?

if you wish, you can put 3 liter cans in Mulinex, I have no such desire, but when I’m too lazy to pour a lot of jars or need a lot at once, I always use a regular glass salad bowl, I stir yogurt in it and I can make it there (volume more than 1.5 l)
uberipuzo
Quote: Chantal

maribraun, well, I don’t know about the washing machine, but the dishwasher was actually invented by a woman
Well, if so, then maybe you really should think about buying an electric oven? I have siemens, the temperature is set from 20 to 300g, 8 heating modes, i.e. in addition to baking itself, you can defrost, defrost the dough, replace the dryer and as it turned out, the yogurt maker also likes the shutdown timer, you can put something on with a delay in cooking (for example, dry without drying, or a pie for the morning), or, for example, I put dinner and went to gather a family around the city - a son from school, a husband from work, we arrived - a hot supper is waiting in the oven, and a hot bread is picking up in a bread maker - crrrasota!

oops and then Ostap suffered (s)
good thing, but cumbersome

I just wanted to eat yogurt ...

Why do I need all these bells and whistles?

the heating will be turned off soon - how will I make yogurt?

have to buy something ...
Caprice
Quote: uberipuzo

such a design would suit me
can you tell me the brand?
but they probably don't sell it in Moscow time ...
Yogurt makers are not produced or sold in Israel. We Israelis order them through the website, and only yoghurt makers of the same company. In Israel there is only a dealer of this company, the yogurt makers of which we buy. If this helps you - 🔗 - please, I'll be glad.
There are also phone numbers of dealers of this company in different countries.
uberipuzo
Quote: obgorka_gu

if you wish, you can put 3 liter cans in Mulinex, I have no such desire, but when I’m too lazy to pour a lot of jars or need a lot at once, I always use a regular glass salad bowl, I stir yogurt in it and I can make it there (volume more than 1.5 l)
perfectly !
while I will opt for Moulinex

I'll go to Moscow time - I'll look

thank all those who responded
uberipuzo
Quote: Caprice

Yogurt makers are not produced or sold in Israel. We Israelis order them through the website, and only yoghurt makers of the same company. In Israel, there is only a dealer of this company, whose yoghurt makers we buy. If this helps you - 🔗 - please, I'll be glad.
There are also phone numbers of dealers of this company in different countries.
Thank you
gorgeous thing
and costs only $ 30-35

but - not destiny ...
Mams
Pakat still gave a link, it is true in Canada. He has a great yogurt maker. I would not refuse such a thing. You can also make kefir and cottage cheese in it.

Found a link. 🔗
Ukka
Can anyone say something about this yogurt maker?
🔗...
Mams
Scarlett's one-liter yoghurt maker was on sale for a long time ...
Severin is about the same price as Moulinex. Before the crisis in the region of 800-900 rubles. were, now about 1500 r ...
Hairpin
I got my yogurt maker !!!

Yoghurt maker - selection, reviews, questions about operation (1)
With a catalog value of 30 euros, I paid 1,700 rubles.
Plastic jars, volume 150 ml.

Producer - Steba. It looks like German.
Now it remains to read everything that you have written here and go!
Hairpin
And here's another thing. In my German instruction
1. Nothing is said about sterilizing jars. Just rinse with hot water and dry.
2. The recipes are given with the addition of raw fruits right away. First recipe: natural yogurt + chopped kiwi + ground pistachios + sugar;
3. Well, reuse of this culture - 20 times.

I wonder if the Germans really don't know what to add right away is not good ... Tea is Germans, not Chinese ...
Lenusya
Tefal raises the temperature inside the yogurt maker to 50 degrees in an hour, then turns off and cools down. With the purchase of a thermometer, I turn it off myself after 40 minutes - the temperature inside is 45 degrees and it gradually cools down.
If I am not mistaken, the optimum temperature for making yoghurt is from 38 to 45 degrees, depending on the product.

I found 🔗
General rules for the preparation (fermentation) of fermented milk products at home.

High temperatures are harmful to bacteria - do not heat the starter culture or milk mixture to temperatures above 45-50 degrees. To dissolve the starter culture in the ampoule, use boiled but chilled water (milk).
Always use clean dishes only. All dishes into which milk or sourdough is poured must be thoroughly washed and scalded with boiling water (including spoons). The thermometer must be wiped with alcohol.
You can adjust the consistency of the product to your taste by changing the fermentation time. The longer the product is fermented, the thicker its consistency will be.

Muzuk
Yesterday my husband and I disassembled the yogurt maker, it became very interesting what was inside. It turned out that there was only a 13-watt teng attached to the bottom of the yogurt maker and that's it. This means the higher the ambient temperature, the higher the temperature in the yogurt maker. (I now have a temperature in a jar of yogurt above 48 grams. It seems that the whey is coming out from here). This is not good. So it was decided to modernize this device, install a temperature sensor and a control device, on which it will be possible to set the required temperature. If anyone is interested, I will post pictures of how we will do it.
Yoghurt maker severin.

Has anyone tasted the "Evitalia" leaven?
Chantal
Quote: ahialeks

or expensive and unpredictable or cheap and "eclectic" (but guaranteed) - the box can stand in the closet and in the nightstand and in the pantry, the balcony and so on everywhere

ahialeks, a thousand rubles in my opinion is not at all expensive, in general, I would have bought this yoghurt maker even for the sake of jars with lids on which the date is displayed - with my sclerosis, an irreplaceable weight
ahialeks
Quote: Chantal

ahialeks, a thousand rubles in my opinion is not at all expensive, in general, I would have bought this yoghurt maker even for the sake of jars with lids on which the date is displayed - with my sclerosis, an irreplaceable weight
Why set the date if you make 1 liter of yogurt - that's 4-5 jars of 200-250g each. they are consumed within the terms of use, and in the store you can buy jars of the most different shapes + for the same 1000 a headache (it warms, then it does not heat)
mageta
Quote: uberipuzo

many on this forum came across yogurt makers that are actually not suitable for making yoghurt - with a temperature of 50-55 and above
I don't know - is it considered a marriage? but it is impossible to use such devices
You can just be stunned! Is there really so much marriage? It's just strange to me ... I bought three Tefal yogurt makers for my family. One for me, one for my mother-in-law, and one for my sister. All three plow like cute with lovely yogurt. I don’t remember at all when it was so that we didn’t get yogurt! And I use milk in different ways. Recently we were at the dacha with my mother-in-law, where they brought long-playing milk to the store. And nothing, they made the yogurt just gorgeous. And Belarusian milk, and Saransk, and generally xs knows where. The result is always excellent, and so that the leaven does not work, I also don’t remember that.
uberipuzo
Quote: mageta

You can just be stunned! Is there really so much marriage? It's just strange to me ... I bought three Tefal yogurt makers for my family. One for me, one for my mother-in-law, and one for my sister. All three plow like cute with lovely yogurt. I don’t remember when it was so that our yoghurt didn’t work! And I use milk in different ways. Recently we were at the dacha with my mother-in-law, where they brought long-playing milk to the store. And nothing, they made the yogurt just gorgeous. And Belarusian milk, and Saransk, and generally xs knows where. The result is always excellent, and so that the leaven does not work, I also don’t remember that.
I do not think that everything is so terrible with yogurt makers
simply, of the many owners of yogurt makers on the forum, they write exactly those who have had problems with them, they are looking for advice, etc.
and those who have not had problems enjoy yoghurts and do not visit forums

but the problem with the yogurt maker may be: after all, this is a primitive electrical device: it does not have a temperature regulator and an increase in the voltage in the network or a deviation from the norm of the parameters of the heating element can raise the temperature in the yogurt maker above 45 degrees
then yogurt won't work
Muzuk
Evitalia is not there. Now I'm scratching my turnips, where can I find it? Tell someone in Moscow where you can buy this sourdough?
I recently bought an evitalia at the IFC pharmacy (there are several of them in Moscow) It turns out very tasty

but the problem with the yogurt maker may be: after all, this is a primitive electrical device: it does not have a temperature regulator and an increase in the voltage in the network or a deviation from the normal parameters of the heating element can increase the temperature in the yogurt maker above 45 degrees
then yogurt won't work
I completely agree with this. Since we faced this, we measured the temperature of the heating elements, as much as 60 degrees. No wonder the serum was at the bottom.
Had to reinvent this:
Yoghurt maker - selection, reviews, questions about operation (1)
A sensor (resistance thermometer) was glued to the heating element, and the sensor was glued to the instrument. Now you can set any temperature, it also shows the current temperature. Among the disadvantages, the price of the device = the price of a yogurt maker
Chantal
Quote: uberipuzo

voltage increase in the network or a deviation from the norm of the parameters of the heating element may increase the temperature in the yogurt maker above 45 degrees
Apparently, I just had this, because after that I already fermented yogurt and everything worked out fine, besides, it was noticed that not all starter cultures are so critical the correct temperature regime as for narine, the theme always turns out excellent yogurt from baby yogurt
by the way, inulin, yogulact and evitalia in any pharmacy (at least in the Vita pharmacy chain)

Muzuk, except for the price, I see another drawback - aesthetic, I thought it would be something small and neat

ahialeks, I don’t know what your consumption periods are in our family, except for 3 adult yogurt eaters, there is another very small one - here it’s only yogurt for 1-2 days.and if we take into account that our production is in-line, then there can be several jars in the refrigerator and all with different dates of manufacture on sale containers with the ability to set the date I saw only plastic ones, they do not suit me for reasons of hygiene
Muzuk
Muzuk, besides the price, I see another drawback - aesthetic, I thought it would be something small and neat
What was done, the device is industrial (my husband is professionally engaged in the automation of technological processes and everything else that can be automated), most likely something small happens.
Can you find out the full names and brands of the additional devices used?
I’ll ask my husband. Perhaps there are many types of devices, in my case, what was at hand was put.
uberipuzo
Quote: fairy tale

thanks for the answer, but the temperature is very confusing, it was clearly more than 40 degrees
and in general, how much is it in moulinex? I read about 37
a thermometer will help you ...
Wanderer
And now, without a yogurt maker, in a slow cooker, activia ripens in 8.5 hours. I don’t know what the temperature is in the kitchen, but it’s been outside for several days + 24 degrees on an average day.
story
Quote: uberipuzo

a thermometer will help you ...
tell me what to determine the temperature over 40, the usual I understand will not work
Wanderer
Lenusya, I didn't understand the trick with napkins.
Today I'm going to buy Moulinex too, I want to know all the tricks in advance.
Lenusya
Quote: fairy tale

tell me what to determine the temperature over 40, the usual I understand will not work
I have this
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=8469.0
Wanderer
Fairy tale, there are special thermometers, I bought at the pharmacy, it shows from minus 30 degrees to +100 degrees.
uberipuzo
Quote: fairy tale

tell me what to determine the temperature over 40, the usual I understand will not work
I have something like this
🔗
note: at the bottom of the photo there is a wire, at the end of the wire there is a metal sensor
this sensor is designed to measure the temperature outside - it is located outside the window
I attach this sensor to the surface on which the temperature is to be measured
there is a thermometer 300r

still there are - like this:
🔗
cost 100-150r
story
about we have a children's electronic one, will it fit ??
Wanderer
Here I am already with a yogurt maker - Mulinex!
Fairy tale, as far as I managed to find out, the temperature is allowed up to 45 degrees, so everything is fine with you, I think.
Wanderer
Quote: Lenusya

If you are worried that the temperature is higher than recommended, you can rest on the bottom with a couple of napkins or a paper towel.

When I began to put napkins in my Tefal, the yogurt stopped flaking, probably the bottom of the jar does not heat up so much.

Lenusya, the most interesting thing is that I already have two napkins in the set of the yogurt maker, one thinner, the other thicker. Probably they read you, they managed to plant me in time.
Now, if it were not for your advice about napkins, I would have thrown them out, honestly, I would have thought that these are purely packing gadgets, thanks, you posted the advice in time. I have already put a plus sign in gratitude to you.
fugaska
I use baby food jars (there are even more of them, 8 at once!), honey, jam (purchased, of course). in fact, any suitable in height and diameter
vorona
I also have jars of baby food "Hame", they have a "screw" lid and 8 pieces of them fit into the Mule
Alexander Svet1
Dear yoghurt lovers, let me put your nickle in the fight against overheating of the Moulinex DJC141 yoghurt maker. The heating element of the yogurt maker was heated to 74.9 C. While it was cool, a sandwich pad - paper towel - cork panel - paper towel saved. But summer came and began ...
And on the radio market I bought a BETA TP2.5 thermostat. And since the thermal sensor comes with it in an impressive protective case, I additionally bought a DS18B20 thermal sensor. I set the temperature control range of the contact surface within 41C-42.5C and EVERYTHING was adjusted.

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PC. For Donetsk people I took everything at the motodrome - thermostat BETA TP2.5-
place 789-price-110gr, temperature sensor DS18B20 –place 778 –price - 10 gr.
Wanderer
Alexander, I'm far from electricity, explain to the kettle, but how does it regulate? Only in the direction of decreasing (like yours) or in any direction? And is it easy to connect with a thermal sensor? Can you understand this issue without technical skills?

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