LadyMary
Dear forum users! I just can't decide which cartoon is better to take: Brand 37501 or Polaris PMC 0517AD? Help, pliiizzzzz! I don't sleep at night, I choose, I read forums, the more I read, the more I dig myself into my thoughts ...
Zima
Well, if the choice is between these two models, I can probably express my subjective opinion, since I had a 37501 and I have Polaris.
The only thing that Brand I had was the release of the end of 2011, and the company is constantly making improvements to the work of the programs, so perhaps now they are already selling more advanced models.
I'll try to compare, if I don't write about something, ask
1. Design:
A matter of taste. There is no more white equipment in my kitchen, but I still bought a brand in due time, as it made me very happy with its functionality.
But still I want to note that Polaris (in my opinion) looks much more modern, more beautiful and, even, somehow smaller.
2. Saucepan. Polaris with handles is a plus, but Brand's pan is much thicker - Polaris is a minus. Polaris has a ceramic coating (everything starts to stick in 2-3 months), Brand has a regular non-stick coating (nothing sticks, but scratches - you need to be very careful, especially when cooking dishes with bones - in my experience, they are the ones that most harm the coating )
You can buy a spare one for both cartoons (you can buy a spare one for Polaris with a regular anti-stick, but already without handles), but as far as I understand, Brand does not have them now (just the other day I finished reading the topic on pressure cookers - therefore, in the subject), a batch spare parts are expected by the summer, and perhaps it will be the last (or maybe not). The fact is that the plant where Brand makes the 37501 is now owned by Phillips, who forbade the plant from further cooperation with Brand. In general, if you choose Brand, buy a "spare tire" in the summer, just for every fireman.
3. Functionality.
The programs are similar. Polaris has much more programs (I don't even use half of them), but Brand's programs are better configured, without the jambs that Polaris has.
Both have a Multipovar - which is a huge plus, only Brand has a maximum T180C - well, this is not for everybody, in my opinion, when frying and at 160C, you don't have to yawn, although it may come in handy for someone. The minimum for both 40C
What was a little bit enough for me in Brand was the Pasta program (although in 0517 you need to adapt to this program, because in Polaris it works a little clumsily)
Otherwise, Brand’s work completely suited me and pleased me, so at this point Brand, perhaps Little wins comparison
4. Service. Well here Brand is ahead of the rest. Usually sellers do not like to solve such issues, but here they are ready to provide maximum assistance to any retail buyer (even if you purchased the product not from them, but from their dealer). Well done!
5. There are a lot of users on our site, including those who tested Brand, as a result there are a lot of recipes adapted for the brand. Although any recipe can be adapted to any multicooker, it is easier for beginners - no need to bother with it.

And finally, my sad experience with Brand. Either I was so unlucky, or the voltage of my network is contraindicated for this multi (although other devices "do not complain"), or she was offended at me for the fact that I was very depressed by her color (but she really seemed completely inappropriate for my kitchen) but my first 37501 broke down after 5 months of operation, the service could not fix it and I received a new one, but the second one also broke down, after 3 months, I returned it to the seller and decided to pick up another model.

Summary - purely feminine advice: take the one that you like more externally
Zima
I will also add a plus to Polaris - the heating of the dish is more delicate - about 60C, in Brand 70-80 (and as far as I know, everyone has it).
LadyMary
Of course, I like the design of Polaris more, Brenda looks like a picnic basket. But I like the two-level steamer in it, this is in the last issue, the people on the forum admire this cartoon. The main thing for me is that it is tasty and convenient to cook. do not walk around her and do not watch. Now, if you remove the moment of external beauty and do not take into account your bad experience in connection with breakdowns, which one would you choose? Where is it tastier? Which of them bakes better, in which soup is rich, pilaf is brighter, and porridge without lumps?
Zima
Is a two-level steamer a separate upper and a lower one? well, buy it in addition, as an option in the brand is sold, but I do not use it at the same time - I tried to cook manti, both tiers do not boil normally, I did not try anything else, I steam only whole vegetables - they will not fit on the lower level (since the distance between the upper and the lower tier is small) - or a two-level steamer is something else, I don't follow that topic, so I'm not entirely aware of what changes the model has now.
Tasty and convenient - in both, you cook, and the multicooker is just a saucepan, yes, it is electric, it maintains a given level of T and time, which is why it is convenient, nothing more. The quality of the plastic is approximately the same, these multi new both smell about the same, the smell is not very strong and disappears very quickly, it can be much stronger, just recently in Eldorado I felt and had to smell the Vitesse pressure cooker at the same time, it is new, it was just put on the window - so I will tell you the smell
I don't bake in the cartoon - since I love baking from the oven much more, in the oven baking is drier and has a tasty top crust, and in general, even with a bread maker, I bake bread only in the oven (fortunately, I am on maternity leave and can afford it by time) - since it is heaven and earth to taste. Do not believe me - try to bake bread there yourself at least once!
The soup is the same. And the soup is richer on the stove or in a pressure cooker (according to people's reviews), we have a girl on the forum who has several multicooker, so she doesn't cook soup in any of them - she doesn't like it, only on the stove. Taste preferences are individual. By the way, I also like the soup that my mother cooked on the stove more, but I cook it myself in a slow cooker - I'm too lazy to do it on the stove, the soup is good, but my mother's tastes better!
The porridge will also be about the same. Oatmeal Field Mode = Milk Porridge Mode in Brand
Porridge without lumps will be in any multicooker, even for 2,000 rubles, since the multicooker was originally a cooker - "sharpened" specifically for this function, if, of course, it is not cereal, which must be constantly mixed, such as semolina
I don't recognize pilaf on the machine. Pilaf is, first of all, the observance of technology (however, they also say that pilaf is a philosophy, but we are not talking about that), therefore, when cooking pilaf, I can only entrust the multi on the machine with the final stage - after laying the rice.
But I liked the rice itself and the side dishes (cereals) in Brand in general.
But this is normal, there are no ideal multicooker, one copes with rice better, the other with a casserole, because it's not for nothing that girls have 5 pieces and use everyone, use different ones for different dishes.
I am specifically trying to describe everything for you in detail, without emotion. Although I have not lived without a multicooker since they appeared in Russia about 6 years ago (maybe this is why there is no such euphoria - I got used to it, as, for example, to a washing machine) and I cannot imagine a kitchen without a multicooker, since a multicooker very good helper for cooking simple everyday meals and I have already lost the habit of watching the milk so that it does not run away and so on. But, understand, there is no tastier pilaf cooked on an open fire in a cauldron and barbecue cooked on the grill. In a slow cooker, pilaf can also be cooked deliciously, but still not so.

As for the development of the multicooker, it is easier to adapt to Brand.
This does not mean that Paul is very difficult, just Brand slightly take it easy.

In general, both have pros and cons, a more ideal saucepan would be with Brand's brains and in Poli's case, but since this is impossible, I would buy Polya.

Also, using the reviews, one should not forget that communication on sites for some is a business. And it is not always possible to calculate these people ..
There is also a category that, having bought something, will agitate everyone, even if it is absolutely G (I speak in general terms, without touching upon the models we are discussing).
In general, something like this, the decision is in any case for you,
I wish you a successful and correct choice, just for you!
SvetaGdeTo
SOS Help, develop doubts! Redmond wanted it (4502), BUT! The price has become, it turns out, ogogo! Well, then 4500 .... And how my husband heard about Redmond - not in any! He was gored by Redmond's constant TV ads! And that's all, rested. I ordered Polaris 517. And I read a bunch of bad reviews on various sites of online stores and I almost cry! Cooking for me! Apparently I'm fixated on Redmond. Seems to be the best cartoon .....
Zima
You've probably read a lot on the Multicooker? So Redmond is the sponsor of that site, negative reviews for this company from the very beginning "cleaned up" robust. And their prices are too high. And the lid close key breaks. What else can I say to cheer you up?
0791
Quote: SVETAGDETO

SOS Help, develop doubts! Redmond wanted it (4502), BUT! The price has become, it turns out, ogogo! Well, then 4500 .... And how my husband heard about Redmond - not in any! He was gored by Redmond's constant TV ads! And that's all, rested. I ordered Polaris 517. And I read a bunch of bad reviews on various sites of online stores and I almost cry! Cooking for me! Apparently I'm fixated on Redmond. Seems to be the best cartoon .....
I too can speak about Redik not flattering. I have SO MUCH !!!! I revised, touched, poured last year (and now I go - I look out of habit). True, I was aiming at the 70th like the most-most
So my subjective IMHO Fields are many times cooler when I saw her - I just fell in love first outwardly and then, when she 100% got into our family diet, it became True Love
I studied field 517 up and down. I caught ALL of her joints and flaws. I found an application for them, and of course, an explanation (on the mulvark, Alexander - the technical specialist of Polaris advises).
ONLY DO NOT BEGIN WITH MILK Porridge !!!!!!! this is a strange mode, despite the fact that by default (10 minutes) it works "as it should" - approx. 25 minutes and if you set, for example, 15 or 20 (or 25/30) minutes, then the MV cooks porridge for 25-30 minutes, and then turns off without going into autoheating, while the countdown timer does not count to 0, turns off when on it the numbers are still different (depending on the displayed one).
There are many explanatory words for this mode on Mulvarka. I only cook rice porridge on it. And you can stew for 30 minutes on it, it is just very good. actively boils at the beginning, and then simmer for about 90C.
For the rest of the cereals, use Oatmeal! or multi-cook (100C and time - as needed) with a delayed start - if relevant. Or on Dessert, I cooked wonderful porridge, too, with a delayed start.
Ask us here, we will always advise
0791
Redmond -4502 I will immediately describe its DISADVANTAGES! in my opinion, very good. essential.

A multi-cook with a 20C step is about nothing
I, for example, often put 50C and 90C. There are no such installations at Redikovsky.
50C - for defrosting large pieces of meat
90C - languor

RUB 8,990 this is his current price
I'm just out. Red price for him is 4-5 tons.

Red4502 does not have yoghurt. It is only the red-lovers who swear that they produce yoghurts, but I have read many negative reviews that the yoghurts are overheated by 40C "multi-cook" red. To eliminate this, it is proposed to pour water, lay rugs, etc.

Red4502 has real automatic programs (if you remove duplicates) - 8 pieces! TOTAL EIGHT! also a multi-cook and a touch program - express cooking. Red lovers consider these programs a model
This is why I named the price 4-5 tons. that there are many such MVs !!! exactly at the prices I have named (4-5 tons)



Our Fields517 has really 16 different ones! automatic modes (according to Redik's account, this is 20, even more, because.Frying is divided into 4 temperature ranges, and molKasha and Pasta differ in settings - but for some reason Pole writes it to the jamb, and reda to its merits). Plus Paul's multi-cook with 10C increments. from 40 to 160, that is, according to Redik's count - the 517th has 13 more manual programs. And also ... they ascribe about manual settings oh-oh ... I'll get lost here at the 517th to count
Nicol
but don't wash
Quote: SVETAGDETO

SOS Help, develop doubts! Redmond wanted it (4502), BUT! The price has become, it turns out, ogogo! Well, then 4500 .... And as my husband heard about Redmond - not in any! He was gored by Redmond's constant TV ads! And that's all, rested. I ordered Polaris 517. And I read a bunch of bad reviews on various sites of online stores and I almost cry! Cooking for me! Apparently I'm fixated on Redmond. Seems to be the best cartoon .....
I subscribe to the above for 100%. And I'll add on my own. I, too, not so long ago suffered a similar choice. Only I was choosing between Redic M90 and our Polya. My selection criteria:
1. On appearance - twins, sisters. It is unclear who is tyrit or just at the same factory they make and different labels are glued.
2. of course the price. Redik's is unrealistically overpriced. M90 12000.
3. Only rave reviews for Redick. It doesn't work that way. (Like Stanislavsky: I DO NOT BELIEVE !!!)
4. Well, if we compare it with 4502, then ours has much more advantages.
I bought a Polaris 517. And I don't even know the quality of the M90, so that I would think the M90 ​​has IT, but mine does not ...
And one more thing: my friend had 4502 since autumn 2012. She bought it in Eldorado for 5200. And she says that she would never have bought it for 8990. And it also has its own "features" - let's call it that.
Cooking, of course, you, but do not rush to hait your husband and our Polka. You will not regret!!!
Some kind of confusion turned out, but it seems clear)))
Nicol
Girls, tell me! The Multipovar has a mechanism: let's say I set the temperature to 90 degrees. Does it bring to a boil and then simmer at 90 degrees? or brings up to 90 degrees and keeps this temperature.
Zima
In theory, it should heat up to 90C, not higher. And if you want to put the dish at 40C, ferment something or proof the dough for an hour, and she will take it and heat up to 100C, what will it be?
this is how I understand the operation of the multicooker:
brings up to 90C and tries to maintain this temperature (or rather, not exactly 90C, but at this level),
when the cartoon is working, you can hear small clicks - this clicks the thermostat (especially on Yoghurt you can hear it, since there is a very low temperature there, the heating element turns on for a very short time, then turns off),
that is, when T drops slightly, the heating element turns on, heats up, say, to 92, turns off again, when cooled, say, to 88, turns on again. The numbers from the ceiling, I don't know the exact (+ -), but the principle is.

But you intrigued me, went to check! I'll play with a new toy - a thermometer

Irina, and temperature probes came to me, as many as 2 - one like yours - digital in a plastic case, and the other metal, so that you can leave it in the oven as I wanted, but you have already tested everything, so it's no longer interesting
0791
Nicol, that's just about what they eaten all my bald head: we have no languor, that is, first we need to boil (on the same MolKash), and then only Multi-Cook.
Or Bread program at Radica90. Yana assures. what och. the taste of bread is different in Baking and Bread. BUT we can try Baking or Crust for bread, for whom it is relevant.

So ours: Oatmeal, Beans, Roasting, Crust - no red90.

And although Zima writes that the side dishes are better with another MV, my family appreciated these side dishes on Krupa, and I appreciated the cooking speed of 25 minutes

Zima, and what for the oven, can you measure the crust inside the bowl on the Baking?
Zima
Well, of course, Irina, I love the crust that forms from the top from hot air, and not the one from below, I just don't like it ...
but what Yana writes should be divided not even by 100, but by 1000 - sorry I could not resist
Zima
about the mode of languor, for example, in Brand - this mode
because Simmering is first to bring to a boil, and then simmer at a low temperature.
And how the Branda languor works, an excerpt from the instructions:

"In the first hour of operation, the content of the multicooker reaches and is maintained at
temperature 45 °. In the second hour of operation, the temperature reaches and
supported by 65 °. In the third hour - the temperature is maintained around 85 °.
The last 2 hours of operation of the mode, the contents of the multicooker reach and
maintained at 97 "
SvetaGdeTo
Thank you very much - everyone for the answers!
No, I have not read enough bad reviews on the Multicooker, but on the sites of the online store. from buyers. The sensor is swearing. management and that you need to stand near it, as if near a stove - but you want the opposite ... well, and much more. Somehow there are more bad reviews from people than good ones. And also that bad incomprehensible instruction (and I'm kind of stupid in technical matters) and that "managing" this cartoon is tricky, but I would like it to be simpler and clearer to figure out what you are dealing with. Before this I had Kromax 31 - everything is simple and clear: what and on what and how to cook.
Another question, will milk porridges not work out at all or just not start with them?
Zima
I meant that you read a lot of praises on the Multicooker ..
if this is not the first slow cooker, then there are no problems at all, master it very quickly!
Milk porridge should be cooked on the Oatmeal mode. he works
SvetaGdeTo
Quote: Zima

I meant that you read a lot of praises on the Multicooker ..
if this is not the first slow cooker, then there are no problems at all, master it very quickly!
Milk porridge should be cooked on the Oatmeal mode. he works

What about standing next to her like a stove? I would like to: throw it on, leave, come - it's done! With Kromax and BulO
Zima
Since you are so used to cooking, well, you don’t do, for example, pre-frying, then it will be exactly the same in that one, write what and in what modes you cooked, we can, together with the girls, carry out analogs with this multicooker.

Well, that's how, for example, with milk porridge.
If you need porridge without a delay, then the Oatmeal mode,
if you need porridge in the morning, but put it in the evening, then the Multipovar 100C mode
(not all modes can be delayed)
cereals for a side dish - Groats, it lasts 25 minutes after boiling

and so on
0791
milk porridge will not work at all or just not start with them?
obtained and very good. tasty
just about MolKash-mode, there are many questions at once how it works
all other modes work very well. simple, as described in the instructions
The instruction, of course, cannot be compared with Redik's (I studied it from the 90th). BUT you can understand everything
especially when there is a multicooker experience

Yes, touch control is a bit unusual. I also read on various Internet-selling sites a lot (sorry) of stupid angry raids - that the buttons are not pressed so they do not need to be pressed just Start and Cancel should hold for 2-3 seconds.
All other settings are easy and effortless from a light touch.
It happens that a person's finger (for various physiological reasons) is not sensitive to the sensor. Just then you have to put another finger
Zima
It's just that some people like to pre-fry everything, in which case, of course, turn on the Fry and don't go far, since the temperature is high, the saucepan heats up quickly - you can burn everything.

And if, on the contrary, do not fry, but only stew, they threw everything and are free (this is what I love most of all)
Quote: 0791

Yes, touch control is a bit unusual. I also read on various Internet-selling sites a lot (sorry) of stupid angry raids - that the buttons are not pressed so they do not need to be pressed just Start and Cancel should hold for 2-3 seconds.
yes, yes - hold for a couple of seconds, at first I didn't get it - I thought I got a defective
and now I don't even remember about it, everything is on the machine, well done Irina, that she remembered and warned
0791
Quote: SVETAGDETO

What about standing next to her like a stove? I would like to: throw it on, leave, come - it's done! With Kromax and BulO
yes, easily
I easily reproduced any recipes in 517 because it has all the traditional modes
SvetaGdeTo
I don't have much experience. Kromax was 5 months old, then I gave it to my mother.But, of course, I have already got used to it (but I have not managed to cook everything and have not mastered all the functions).

Please, a couple more questions (this is when I buy it - I will fill it with them)
But a bowl with a ceramic coating ... they also say after 3 months everything sticks to it? And is it possible to purchase an extra non-stick bowl for the 517 toi box?
Is a multi-cook really necessary? How useful is this function?

Oh, now my husband has called. that since I'm so upset about Redmond I might already order a Redmond 4500? And I myself do not know what to answer already I want a reliable and accessible-understandable assistant
Zima
I do not like Redmond for their aggressive policy and twice inflated prices, therefore, in order not to pour poison, I will not say anything, especially since I have not read anything about the 4500 at all.

As for the ceramic coating - this is now such a controversial topic, a lot of people who were led to the environmental friendliness of "ceramics" and the harm of "Teflon" have changed more than one frying pan or returned to a conventional nonstick, while others remain ardent adherents of "ceramics" and will not exchange her no matter what. There is a lot of information and debate on this topic on the Internet (including our website on the topic of pans), if you are interested, read it.
The pan can be purchased as an additional one, both with a ceramic and non-stick coating, only without handles. I hope that someday they will appear with handles.
Everyone has their own opinion, but with the advent of Multicooker in multicooker or in other models, the program with manual settings may be called differently, multicooker without this program does not interest me. As for me, it would be better to have three times fewer automatic programs, but if only there was a Multi-cook.
osa4843
Quote: 0791

I too can speak about Redik not flattering. I have SO MUCH !!!! revised, touched, poked last year (and now I go - I look out of habit). True, I was aiming at the 70th like the most-most
So my subjective IMHO Fields are many times cooler when I saw her - I just fell in love first outwardly and then, when she 100% got into our family diet, it became True Love
I studied field 517 up and down. I caught ALL of her joints and flaws. I found an application for them, and of course, an explanation (on the mulvark, Alexander - the technical specialist of Polaris advises).
ONLY DO NOT BEGIN WITH MILK Porridge !!!!!!! this is a strange mode, despite the fact that by default (10 minutes) it works "as it should" - approx. 25 minutes and if you set, for example, 15 or 20 (or 25/30) minutes, then the MV cooks porridge for 25-30 minutes, and then turns off, without going into autoheating, while the countdown timer does not count to 0, turns off when on it the numbers are still different (depending on the displayed one).
There are many explanatory words for this mode on Mulvarka. I only cook rice porridge on it. And you can stew for 30 minutes on it, it is just very good. actively boils at the beginning, and then simmer for about 90C.
For the rest of the cereals, use Oatmeal! or multi-cook (100C and time - as needed) with a delayed start - if relevant. Or on Dessert I cooked wonderful porridge, too, with a delayed start.
Ask us here, we will always advise
Hello everyone!! I haven't written for a long time, but I constantly read our forum !!! Happy holidays to all girls !!! I am about, "you shouldn't start with MolKash ..." That's where you are wrong, my husband bought me a field just for milk porridge in the morning .... I started with them, and I still cook porridge EVERY day in the morning !! I just put on the regime and leave to get ready for work .... The regime works with a bang !!!! Today I tried the Pasta mode, everything worked out !!! I poured cold water at the first risk, turned on the mode, after a while the multicooker began to squeak three times, I fell asleep with macaroons, and the time count began, after 8 minutes it turned off, and went into heating mode ... All pasta are ready !!! The only thing I did additionally was added oil to the water !!! It remains to try the crust and pizza ....
0791

I was trying to say a little bit not about that
I say that our Fields works wonderfully!
However, many users starting to test all buttons!find "oddities" that don't get in the way !!! adequate work in the preset mode!
MolKasha (mode) works for 25-30 minutes by default, while 10 minutes are set. And if a person is very scrupulous (and this is how I started): reading the instructions, where there is not a word about it; begins to doubt the adequacy of the MolKash regime. After all, 10 minutes are set. It seems that "everything should be cooked in 10 minutes", but it is not. And claims begin
Further, the person on the recipe book wants to set 35 minutes, this is not possible, only 30 minutes is the maximum. puts 30 minutes ... and the mode turns off, without switching to auto-heating, and not counting to 0 by the timer ... again claims, and disappointments
Although I repeat that the porridge turns out to be cool in 25-30 minutes and plus 15-20 minutes on auto-heating.
Now, if you take this fact for granted, and rejoice, then everything is fine

also on Paste. At 8 minutes (default) - everything cooks fine, and works as expected, as described in the instructions. However, if you set 15 minutes, then ... everything will also cook perfectly (if you do not pour 2 liters of water into the bowl), but the timer will not count to 0, and the auto-heating will not turn on ...
0791
pages 39-41 of this topic - there about cereals
osa4843 no longer remembers: how it all began
because everything is fine when it is your recipe

I wrote this for SVETAGDETO
and I will answer the questions.
a bowl with a ceramic coating ... they also say after 3 months everything sticks to it? And is it possible to purchase an extra non-stick bowl for the 517 toi box?
Is a multi-cook really necessary? How useful is this function?
when it began to stick with me (just about 3 months later), I immediately bought an ordinary teflon saucepan (750 rubles in MetroCashCarry), and now I have ceramics for baking and yoghurts; and everything else is in Teflon. Both bowls are in excellent condition
A multi-cook is needed with a normal temperature range (after 10C).
The function is very useful.
Nicol
Quote: SVETAGDETO

you have to stand next to it, like near a stove
If this is not the first time you cook in principle, then there is nothing complicated and incomprehensible in the Field. I cook almost everything as before on the stove. except that you really don't have to stand next to it. This clever saucepan will heat itself up, boil as much as necessary, extinguish it properly and turn off when necessary. This delights me. a lot of time was freed. If you need to fry something, he fried it like that, again threw in the rest of the products, closed it and left. You probably got this impression when the girls studied it and described it in detail. So I'm so happy that someone did it for me, and shared the results. I just have to use, so to speak, research. The instruction is short, but everything you need is there. What you are reading in this thread is generally unique material !!! not a single instruction (not even the vaunted Redik) can boast of this. Summary of my post: no need to stand! The first two days I ran - looked in - checked! And ... began to trust her))). And she reciprocates me)))
Petrovna
Hello! For two weeks now I have been the owner of such a multi. I tried to cook a lot of things. I like it very much, everything worked out. Today I decided to cook carp, and I ask for advice on which mode to do it. Can you tell me where to see the recipes?
Harisma

I want to tell you a terrible secret - the weak point of our multicooker is the button for opening the lid!
Handle it with care!
In it, the side pins with a diameter of 2 mm break off in a swing with a sharp press !!!
femina_alba
My milk sour during the night on a delayed start. The dogs had to eat porridge. I was upset
Lёlka
I think the dogs were happy. I was also curdling milk (making rice porridge). At first I wanted to throw it out. Then the toad strangled him, and there was no time to cook anything else). She remembered that there is a recipe for corn porridge with sour cream, and she also tasted slightly sour. So I mixed it thoroughly so that there were no lumps from yogurt, I still cooked it. And mine cracked her for a sweet soul. After all, the milk did not go rancid, but only curdled, and this is not a harmful product
Ksyushik555
Good morning girls! My saucepan is completely fucked up in two places, it sticks and burns terribly, even after boiling "Steam" after washing, yellow traces remain. It either burned out, or this "magic" layer came off. When I run my finger in these places, it is all so rough and terribly unpleasant to the touch, and no matter how much oil does not help, it still sticks and immediately burns to buy a new one until there is no way. In the city where I live, saucepans are not sold at all, and there is no time or opportunity to go to the regional center. and we are so used to cooking in our cartoon. These pans are of course terrible, their service life is no more than 3-5 months, no matter how carefully you handle it, and I blew dust particles off it. She worked for me for 3.5 months, but Panasonic's daughter-in-law does not have this demolition more often, they have had it for 6 years and they have not changed anything, so it's a shame! served at least a year, otherwise ...
vernisag
It's a shame ... I saw spare tires in our stores and Teflon and ceramics for Polaris, twisted it ... light flimsy, disposable ... I don't even need to buy my own bowl, it's better to order NOT native and better quality. Look here from NECK You can order by mail, they don't seem to have bad bowls. 1050 rubles + delivery by mail 300 rubles
Irishka CH
Quote: vernisag


I think you don’t even need to buy your own bowl, it’s better to order NOT your own and better one. Look here from NECK You can order by mail, they don't seem to have bad bowls. 1050 rubles + delivery by mail 300 rubles
🔗
Ira, is it in Nizhny? I have the opportunity to ask my friends to see, buy, send. And not native - what do you mean?
vernisag
No Irish is in Tomsk, this company makes bowls for many multicooker. I gave a link to this site, go there and see everything yourself. Or can't you activate the link?
Irishka CH
Thank you, "went" by the link. immediately. I just didn't understand where by the city code ... On your ave I saw NN and thought that it was with you, as if not far off ...
Zima
I bought a replacement bowl today, with a non-stick coating. "Native".
There are, of course, bowls and thicker than for our multi, there are also thinner.
For example, Panas has a thinner bowl, it does not stick to it, but it scratches quickly. Let's see how long this will last.
I also have experience in operating the NEC coating.
The fact is that before there were no options to buy an additional bowl from other manufacturers, only a native one in the SC, and it cost more than 2 thousand + delivery. Considering that the multicooker cost me about 3200, the toad choked to pay such a price for a spare tire.
On the Multicooker website, NEC representatives opened a Temka and invited everyone to send them a saucepan to restore the coating.
Work + round-trip shipping cost about 1,500 rubles, also not cheap, but the reviews about the new coating were excellent, so I decided.
In general, I received an updated saucepan, but I was very, very unhappy with the quality of the coating. For a month and a half, the condition of the coating of my bowl became worse than it was before the departure. There were many shallow scratches, and now there are several, but very deep ones. Of great importance in a non-stick coating is the substrate, that is, not the top layer of "Teflon" - it is very thin, almost transparent, but those layers (their hardness and quantity) that are under the "Teflon". So they put a very soft substrate in NEC, I understood this by the fact that the scratches immediately appeared and were very deep.
I will not argue, perhaps now they are making their bowls thick and with a very good coating, but I still have a negative.
0791
Quote: Zima

I bought a replacement bowl today, with a non-stick coating. "Native".
There are, of course, bowls and thicker than for our multi, there are also thinner.
For example, Panas has a thinner bowl, it does not stick to it, but it scratches quickly. Let's see how long this will last.
Thank you very much for the information.
I only suspected about NEC, and ... as always ... premonitions do not deceive me ...

And I often heard negative reviews about Panasov coatings.

Itself many saucepans in stores spit - looked (did not weigh, of course), but our anti-stick "dear" (Teflon "Polarisovsky"), to my mind, much better than many.
Moreover, I noted that in stores (512th each), pots in MV are worse than those that we saw "spare wheels" (that is, they are sold separately in a box).
I have a teflon bowl och. shows itself well. For the second month, I have it plowing in harsh conditions and even the outer coating has not been erased, although it turns when stirring.

and about thicker / thinner
it is clear that no one measures BUT with a micrometer (IMHO) too thick is also bad - it will take longer to wait for food
Zima
Here the girls compare the bowls by weight, we weighed ours yesterday, it weighs 560 grams
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=147299.200

judging by the sticker, the WHITFORD spare wheel cover is Xylan +
here is the first link that the search engine gave me, here about different types of coatings, maybe someone will come in handy

🔗

Quote: 0791

it is clear that no one measures BUT with a micrometer (IMHO) too thick is also bad - it will take longer to wait for food

I understand that this is a joke, but in general, the thicker the pan (pan), the more evenly it warms up and the less chances that the coating will overheat and deteriorate. Very thin stamping can generally deform. In thin pans, but the bottom warms up quickly, but the product does not have time to fry, it burns on top, and inside it is raw - in such a dish it is recommended only to heat or fry eggs and thick-walled dishes are better for stewing, food to languish - of course, all this primarily concerns ordinary utensils.
In multicooker, more uniform heating, but still a plump saucepan is aluminum has high thermal conductivity and heats up very quickly, it's not cast iron

Irishka CH, Ksyushik555,
Do you have Eldorado nearby? I ordered my saucepan in the Eldorado online store, but I did not order home delivery, but in order not to overpay for pickup from the store, I have it just next to my house. They brought it to me from Moscow to Korolev in 2 days - in general, quickly and without hassle! And when I took it, the girls-sellers complained that they had already ordered many times for sale in the store (people are interested), but they were not sent.
0791
our ceramic weighs about 650g (647g)

Multicooker Polaris PMC 0517AD (reviews)


and teflon is 40g lighter, BUT not 90g.


I confirm the accuracy of the scales with a pack of oil

Multicooker Polaris PMC 0517AD (reviews)

Multicooker Polaris PMC 0517AD (reviews)

Zima
Irina, ceramic weighs 640 grams on my scales - I think the difference is just the weight of the handles, and the "Teflon" one is exactly 560. It seems to me that you have a platform for the scales that is less than the area of ​​the bowl, so you get an inaccurate result. It happens to me when I try to weigh something voluminous. Try to take a stand with a smaller area, weigh it, zero the weight (if you have this function), and place a bowl on the stand. I'm sure you'll get different numbers. I guarantee you my scales don't lie. I have a Beurer KS65.
0791
Quote: Zima

Irina, the ceramic weighs 640 grams on my scales - I think the difference is just the weight of the handles, and the "Teflon" one is exactly 560. It seems to me that your weighing platform is smaller than the bowl area, so you get an inaccurate result. It happens to me when I try to weigh something voluminous. Try to take a stand with a smaller area, weigh it, zero the weight (if you have this function), and place a bowl on the stand. I'm sure you'll get different numbers.
always please
I am for the accuracy of measurements

Multicooker Polaris PMC 0517AD (reviews)

Multicooker Polaris PMC 0517AD (reviews)

nika-773
Quote: Ksyushik555

Good morning girls! My saucepan is completely fucked up in two places, it sticks, and burns terribly, even after boiling "Steam" after washing, yellow traces remain. It either burned out, or this is how this "magic" layer came off. When I run my finger in these places, it’s all so rough and terribly unpleasant to the touch and how much oil doesn’t help, it still sticks and immediately burns to buy a new one until there is no way. In the city where I live, saucepans are not sold at all, and there is no time or opportunity to go to the regional center. and we are so used to cooking in our cartoon. These pans are of course terrible, their service life is no more than 3-5 months, no matter how carefully you handle it, and I blew dust particles off it.She worked for me for 3.5 months, but Panasonic's daughter-in-law does not have this demolition more often, they have had it for 6 years and they have not changed anything, so it's a shame! at least a year served, otherwise ... quote] Absolutely the same thing, I just can't wash it, but rubbing is very scary. I think Polaris produces everything that is of poor quality and disposable, even teapots do not recommend buying them in stores, because they break very quickly. When I bought an MV and smelled it, I generally got the smell of paint from a saucepan.
Ksyushik555
Absolutely the same thing, I just can't wash it, but rubbing is very scary. I think Polaris produces everything that is of poor quality and disposable, even teapots do not recommend buying them in stores, because they break very quickly. When I bought an MB and smelled it, I generally got the smell of paint from a saucepan.
[/ quote] Sadly that's all! I was so sorry to spend money on MV (6800), but I bought it, I could not get enough of it, and now it’s again in disarray, because these saucepans are for 3-5 months and throw out 1000-1500 each time ...
Ksyushik555
Quote: nika-773

Absolutely the same thing, I just can't wash it, but rubbing is very scary. I think Polaris produces everything that is of poor quality and disposable, even teapots do not recommend buying them in stores, because they break very quickly. When I bought an MB and smelled it, I generally got the smell of paint from a saucepan.
It's all sad! I was so sorry to spend money on MV (6800), but I bought it, I could not get enough of it, and now it’s again in disarray, because these saucepans are for 3-5 months and throw out 1000-1500 each time ...
Zima
nika-773,
Polaris itself does not produce anything, but only places an order for production under its own brand in Chinese factories, as, incidentally, do other "manufacturers" Brand, Oursson, Supra, etc. And on the other hand, one factory produces multicooker under different brands , so in this case the comparison is not very appropriate, since I am sure that the kettles are made at another plant.
In our minds of the consumer, the Polaris brand is associated as a cheap economy, and in fact it is. But I have a guess that the company wants to enter the more expensive segment, judging by the latest 0517 multicooker models and the new pressure cooker. Whether she succeeds or not, the future will show.
I believe that our multicooker is one of the best in terms of price-quality-design ratio.
Of course, I want the best quality, but are we ready to pay 22,000 rubles for this, how much does a cuckoo cost 1054? And even then, there are also dissatisfied users of even this super-duper sophisticated multicooker-pressure cooker (the valve is clogged, and it can only be cleaned in the SC) and the pots are scratched.
Girls, that's real. I'm picking up a pressure cooker now. I already bought one and handed it back. I CAN NOT FIND!!!! model suitable for the price and quality.
I just "get sick" according to the Ourson 5005 model, but every second user has a cracked lid, and this is for 9,500 rubles !!!! I would like to keep within 7000, okay 10000 - but that's if I consider it ideal. But there are none. Apparently, you will have to spit and buy an economy version, simple in functions and old-fashioned in design.

0791,
Irina, now I'll take off my pictures from the phone - you will see. The only assumption in this regard is different parties (lines or even the manufacturer from whom this accessory is purchased)
Zima
Pack of butter NET 180 grams + a couple of grams wrapper
Multicooker Polaris PMC 0517AD (reviews)

stand and bowl on stand
Multicooker Polaris PMC 0517AD (reviews) Multicooker Polaris PMC 0517AD (reviews)

aaa !!!! I was cheated 45 grams !!!

girls who have Polaris spare wheels with anti-stick, hang up if possible !!!
Ksyushik555
Yes, unfortunately in our time, they do not do it conscientiously as before, but there is a calculation that "the more often they buy, the better"
0791
Quote: Ksyushik555

Yes, unfortunately in our time, they do not do it conscientiously as before, but there is a calculation that "the more often they buy, the better"
this is marketing ... as I was once explained
Quote: Zima
Now I'll take off my pictures from my phone - you'll see. The only guess on this score is different batches (lines or even the manufacturer from which this accessory is purchased)
I just "proved"

I "ran" on Temko ... the weight of the bowls from 400g is not ours, but in general ... and I remember some kind of saucepan: I took it out of the MV and it was weightless.Outside, bare aluminum - not covered with anything! from the inside, the thinnest layer of non-stick. The fineness was determined by a scratch on the bottom. Ie. shallow scratch already "showed" aluminum ...

and according to our teflon tubes on websites they write a weight from 300 g to 790 g.
Quote: yulMart
Packing size
260 x 260 x 170 mm, weight 0.3 kg
Quote: mVideo
Polaris multicooker bowl:PIP 0501
PMC 0512AD, PMC 0508D, PMC 0506AD
Bowl volume: 5 l
Bowl material: aluminum
Internal coating: ceramic
Weight: 790g
underlined - GON !!! 501st Teflon!
ceramics - 502nd

All recipes

New recipe

© Mcooker: best recipes.

map of site

We advise you to read:

Selection and operation of bread makers