Zima
The cutting that is obtained on a julienne grater (or in another way a grater for Asian cuisine) can be compared in shape with a match, that is, it has both sides the same width and depth, and it will turn out in length depending on how to lay the carrots, so that turned out longer, you need to cut the carrots to the width of the loading hole and put them as if sideways. Personally, I really like it when I carcass cabbage, then shred carrots on this grater - it turns out very harmoniously and beautifully. Many people prefer a Berner grater because of the limitation of the length of straw in combines, that is, in the opinion of many, the length in the combine is short for this type of cutting, but it suits me.
French fries are not cut large, but let's say medium. But the fact is that the blocks are ugly, they are not straight, but, as it were, in the shape of a crescent. I don't know if it is possible to make a nozzle in a harvester in such a way that even blocks are obtained, but I already had a second harvester and in the previous one it was the same. For soup, it will go if you do not impose increased demands on appearance.
To the question: "which nozzle to use for potato pancakes?" the answer is more difficult. As there are a million variants of this dish, some people like mashed potatoes, like on a grater for raw vegetables MUZ 45 RS1, but some like it a little larger, others very large. In general, here you need to experiment to find it to your taste.
Regular dough (not liquid, as for ciabatta) is still more convenient to make in a bread maker, it can cope with a small volume. In this harvester, I cannot collect the dough into a ball, if the flour is less than 500 grams, the dough is simply smeared on the walls.

quart
oh, thanks, och in detail) I did not put it that way - what is a pancake attachment? is it for raw vegetables? understood what julienne is.
rye adze has not come out yet
lemusik
I knead rye dough on a loaf of 800 grams. But from time to time I remove the dough from the walls with a silicone spatula. How it is kneaded - I like it VERY.
But from wheat flour, yeast dough is perfectly assembled into a ball, even the amount for two tiny ciabbats).

I also love to knead minced meat for cutlets in MUMIK, well, muffins, casseroles - everything is wonderful.

I have 54240. I plan to buy a cube cutter and "julienne" ... For French fries I will buy a disc for 2050 - they work in tandem with Mumik))).
kirch
Quote: lemusik

I knead rye dough on a loaf of 800 grams. But from time to time I remove the dough from the walls with a silicone spatula. How it is kneaded - I like it VERY.
But from wheat flour, yeast dough is perfectly assembled into a ball, even the amount for two tiny ciabbats).

I also love to knead minced meat for cutlets in MUMIK, well, muffins, casseroles - everything is great.

I have 54240. I plan to buy a cube cutter and "julienne" ... For French fries I will buy a disc for 2050 - they work in tandem with Mumik))).

Do you hook the cutlets with a hook? How long? Need to try. And then I'm always too lazy to beat the minced meat for a long time
lemusik
How much time - as soon as it becomes a pity to torment Mumik))) Well, when it is already mixed evenly. But I may not be a "guru" of cutlet business at all ...

Oh, yes, a hook. Generally a great thing).

dandelion
Quote: yaallo4ka

How did you order? I found several sites, I would like a verified one ..... I have mum 54241 ....

Share, pliz, with us where you purchased this MUM model.
Zima
Quote: querta

oh, thanks, och in detail) I did not put it that way - what is a nozzle for potato pancakes? is it for raw vegetables? understood what julienne is.
rye adze has not come out yet
and the grater for raw vegetables, it is prickly, on ordinary graters, oh I forgot, what is it called a flower, sclerosis, in general to make mashed potatoes from vegetables ..rye also does not come out, it is not necessary to knead it for a long time, I knead it by hand, all the same, I have to help the bread maker and the combine ..
Quote: lemusik

But from wheat flour, yeast dough is perfectly assembled into a ball, even the amount for two tiny ciabbats).

no, the ciabatta just shouldn't have a ball as such, it's liquid ... I previously wrote about ordinary dough

the dough at the ciabatta should move away from the walls but be sticky under the hook ...
I just got the right dough for the ciabatta last time, after watching a video on the formation of ciabatta on the network, I realized that my dough was not mixed, so I could not cope with it and I had to add flour,
in general, I put a spatula instead of a hook (I read a lot of thin dough with a mixer) and kneaded the dough first at 3, then at 4 speeds - it does not work - that is, it does not leave the walls, and only when I set the 5th speed did the process start - took 35 minutes in total. Next time I'll try to set the speed higher right away.
lemusik
And my ciabatta dough, oddly enough, did not work out sticky, but it was exactly silk... And nestled in a lump on the hook)))
The ciabatki came out very good - fluffy and with a crispy crust (well, I kept the dough in the refrigerator overnight, as indicated in the recipe).
Lillu
Hello, I read and read and now I am sitting in a stupor, what is the difference between Bosch MUM 54251 and MUM 56340, except that the first has a cube, and the second automatically winds the cord?

There is very little information on the sites, where to look to find fundamental differences?

And another question, I have a Boshik msm5540, are disks for shredding from it suitable for Mum 5 or not?
Ukusilda
Quote: Lillu

What is the difference between Bosch MUM 54251 and MUM 56340, except that the first has a cube, and the second automatically winds the cord?
Nothing, the first one is also difficult to buy, only in the M-video the price is insane
yaallo4ka
Quote: dandelion

Share, pliz, with us where you purchased this MUM model.
I bought in m-vidio, gave me his Santa Claus for))))) then there were no cubes or the harvesters themselves on any site ... by buying Pts. happy !!!!
Lillu
Quote: Ukusilda

Nothing, the first one is also difficult to buy, only in the M-video the price is insane
thanks for the answer) 380 dollars is it not expensive for such a combine?
Zima
MUM54251 in M-Video costs 530 dollars
dandelion
Quote: Lillu

cool, we can still sell them for 380 we will arrange supplies

tell me, pliz, where can you buy for such a price?
dandelion
Quote: yaallo4ka

I bought in m-vidio, gave me his Santa Claus for))))) then there were no cubes or the combines themselves on any site ... by buying Pts. happy !!!!

Many say that this model cannot be on sale in Russia. And in M. video, as well as in other places, counterfeits are sold. What can you say fake China or Slovenia?
sazalexter
Not fakes, but gray supplies, and this is only the absence of an official guarantee and nothing more
Lillu
Quote: dandelion

tell me, pliz, where can you buy for such a price?
This is Ukraine, I found two stores, and I still found a third, the price is even cheaper, I also need to find out about the cost of delivery, I think I need to take it, they say deliveries from Poland. I can clarify for you whether they will be sent to Russia.

And they also wrote to me that shredding discs from mcm to mum do not fit, in any case, I will check how I buy it)

And today they tried to convince me that the combine is an unnecessary acquisition, you will rarely use it, and it takes up a lot of space))) Although I know that I am not comfortable without the combine, due to circumstances I had to give my mother away, I sit as if without hands. Well, if you figure out what to take a meat grinder and a submersible blender with a bowl, then a decent volume comes out. They praised the bourne grater, in general they were not convinced.
yaallo4ka
I have Slovenia, I just looked ... I don't know if it's a fake or not, but it works perfectly, kneads everything, whips everything ...
yaallo4ka
Quote: Lillu

This is Ukraine, I found two stores, and I still found a third, the price is even cheaper, I also need to find out about the cost of delivery, I think I need to take it, they say deliveries from Poland. I can clarify for you whether they will be sent to Russia.

And they also wrote to me that shredding discs from mcm to mum do not fit, in any case, I will check how I buy it)

And today they tried to convince me that the combine is an unnecessary purchase, you will rarely use it, and it takes up a lot of space))) Although I know that I am not comfortable without the combine, due to circumstances I had to give my mother away, I sit as if without hands. Well, if you figure out what to take a meat grinder and a submersible blender with a bowl, then a decent volume comes out. They praised the bourne grater, in general they were not convinced.
Graters will not work from msm, look at the pictures, they have a different central hole
sazalexter
Quote: yaallo4ka

I have Slovenia, I just looked ... I don't know if it's a fake or not, but it works perfectly, kneads everything, whips everything ...
Don't be fake, don't worry, it's okay.
yaallo4ka
Quote: sazalexter

Don't be fake, don't worry, it's okay.
Thank you, otherwise I already managed to get over it that for such a sum it was a fake)))))))
When we were choosing, the price was a little embarrassing at first, but then, seeing that without cubes it costs plus or minus 10,000, and a cube cutter is also up to 5000, we thought that it suits us ... the cubes are excellent))))
lemusik
Quote: yaallo4ka

Graters will not work from msm, look at the pictures, they have a different central hole

In fact, I have the impression that MSM has the same disc, only with a plastic frame in the center. I will not break the frame, of course, but what is not hidden by it fully corresponds to the discs of MUM. (I have MSM 2050 and MUM 54240).
Ukusilda
Owners of "cubes", could you please post pictures of the cut products.
Interested in in particular raw onions and boiled carrots
tyumenochka
And I have this question - as I understand it, it's not easy to buy 54251, if you go the other way and buy 54240 and a cube attachment, then there will be one extra vegetable cutter body, and the native discs from 54240 do not fit the cube cutter body, that is, you have to to store 2 cases in which the disks are inserted, do I understand correctly?
And another question for the owners of 54251: in it, the rest of the graters are really inserted into the cube cutter body (transparent plastic), is it convenient to insert them or are there any adapters there?
Alenky
I have a Bosch micron5529-cutter and mum86 and so the discs are the same, they fit both combines !!! These were the ones with the old microns with plastic in the middle!
yaallo4ka
Quote: tyumenochka

And I have this question - as I understand it, it's not easy to buy 54251, if you go the other way and buy 54240 and a cube attachment, then there will be one extra vegetable cutter body, and the native discs from 54240 do not fit the cube cutter body, that is, you have to to store 2 cases in which the disks are inserted, do I understand correctly?
And another question for the owners of 54251: in it, the rest of the graters are really inserted into the cube cutter body (transparent plastic), is it convenient to insert them or are there any adapters there?
Yes, there will be cases 2, I have both the grater and the cube put in one case, but the cube is just put, and the adapter goes on the graters. it's convenient to insert, I'll try to post a photo of the assembly
Lillu
Quote: Scarlet

I have a Bosch micron5529-cutter and mum86 and so the discs are the same, they fit both combines !!! These were the ones with the old microns with plastic in the middle!
great news) yes, there is no plastic in mine either, but as soon as I get my mum, I will check it again and unsubscribe) I still ordered to be brought from Poland, it turns out cheaply, but wait 2 weeks.
tyumenochka
Quote: yaallo4ka

Yes, there will be cases 2, I have both the grater and the cube put in one case, but the cube is just put, and the adapter goes on the graters. it's convenient to insert, I'll try to post a photo of the assembly
Thank you very much for the information, I understand. Is your MUM 54251 correct?
yaallo4ka
Quote: tyumenochka

Thank you very much for the information, I understand. Is your MUM 54251 correct?
yes, I have MUM 54251
robotwerder
Quote: Rina

alexeydaSo you will buy combines of the fourth and fifth series, and tell us about the differences, advantages and disadvantages.

Do you expect that here they will tell you everything, chew, and you will use the finished result? Please note that the majority of members of the forum choose harvesters and master them practically from scratch, on their own.

Describe clearly in the topic I choose a harvester, processor ... Your needs and on which models have so far narrowed the choice, then you will be able to be given more or less qualified advice.

Of course, this is fundamentally correct, since technical characteristics are of course important, but ergonomics and ease of use are also important.
Therefore, to the choice of bread makeror a combine, finally, it is worth approaching responsibly, otherwise the consultants will blunder you in no time , vtyuhayut you such for which they will write a premium and you will have a lot of headaches and problems. pay attention to the guarantee
Better read the tips, there are plenty of them on the internet, for example 🔗
darsolina
Girls, I need your help, this combination is a copy of Bosch, I bought it in Germany, I want to buy a grater for potato pancakes, size the diameter, please, and a photo, so that you can compare the fastening.
Lillu
hurray, hurray, my mumik has arrived, the "cube" nozzle is a poet's dream, the video, although not very good, gives an idea, but nevertheless, I crumbled the vinaigrette in a couple of minutes, I'm in ecstasy)
Shredding discs, etc. in Bosch MUM 54251 are one-on-one like my old BOSCH MCM 5540, one fits the other, in general I am sitting happy and happy) True, I haven’t tried to beat and stir the dough, but I don’t think I’ll be upset)
dandelion
I realized that you ordered in Poland. Friends or anyone can order there? I would also like to buy
tyumenochka
Quote: Lillu

hurray, hurray, my mumik has arrived, the "cube" nozzle is a poet's dream, the video, although not very good, gives an idea, but nevertheless, I crumbled the vinaigrette in a couple of minutes, I'm in ecstasy)
Shredding discs, etc. in Bosch MUM 54251 are one-on-one like my old BOSCH MCM 5540, one fits the other, in general I am sitting happy and happy) True, I haven’t tried to beat and stir the dough, but I don’t think I’ll be upset)
Class! Congratulations on your purchase! Where would I buy such a "dream"? In Tyumen, as it turned out, even 54240 is a problem to buy, but the problem can be solved. For now, I’ll wait for the appearance of 54251 (I’m reluctant to store 2 cases of a vegetable cutter), and when I get tired of waiting, I’ll buy 54240 + a "cube" attachment
Lillu
Quote: dandelion

I realized that you ordered in Poland. Friends or anyone can order there? I would also like to buy
in general, no, the store is located in Lviv, but they are being transported from Poland, I can ask how about delivery to Russia, but then you will not have a guarantee, because sending back and forth is unlikely to be advisable.

And I have a sadness, today I wanted Olivier to dabble, but the potato crumbled unsuccessfully, some of it turned into "snot", I have a suspicion that the reason for the fact that I turned on the highest speed, however, hastened (
Lillu
Quote: tyumenochka

Class! Congratulations on your purchase! Where would I buy such a "dream"? In Tyumen, as it turned out, even 54240 is a problem to buy, but the problem can be solved. For now, I’ll wait for the appearance of 54251 (I’m reluctant to store 2 cases of a vegetable cutter), and when I get tired of waiting, I’ll buy 54240 + a "cube" attachment
Thank you) I will find out about the delivery to you, then I will report) but in general, yes, the combine has so many bells and whistles that I would not want to buy unnecessary parts, it will really take up a lot of space.
dandelion
Quote: Lillu

in general, no, the store is located in Lviv, but they are being transported from Poland, I can ask how about delivery to Russia, but then you will not have a guarantee, because sending back and forth is unlikely to be advisable.

And I have a sadness, today I wanted Olivier to dabble, but the potato crumbled unsuccessfully, some of it turned into "snot", I have a suspicion that the reason for the fact that I turned on the highest speed, however, hastened (

Thank you for the trouble. But it also seems to me inappropriate to carry the harvester through two countries. It is easier for Russia to buy poisonous products and disposable junk and equipment than high-quality and adequate prices. IMHO.
lisssa
Guys, please see if someone has a MUM5 on the belly or else where a switch from 220 to 110 volts. Or else there may be such a sticker on which it is said what voltage he needs. I am just raving about this combine, but I live in Canada, and this model is not yet sold in North America. I'm thinking of ordering from Europe, but the voltage in our network is 110. I know that many modern devices can work from 220 and 110, so I cherish hope ...
sazalexter
lisssa These harvesters are made for Europe and they have a motor that is difficult to make for two voltages, so there is no 110 volt switch.
What is the voltage in which countries
lisssa
Sazalexter, thanks.The plate has been studied for a long time, MUM5 is not supplied to any country with a voltage of 110-120v. I will, apparently, buy a transformer and hide it in a locker. In general, we have another 240 in our house for the drying machine, but it will be too expensive to pull a new 240 socket into the kitchen, electricians take unbearable here.
Zima
lisssa, honestly I don't understand you ..
Mum 5, of course, is a good harvester, but not enough to dream of it, living in Canada!
For me personally, this harvester is a compromise between the desire to have a dough mixer, planetary mixer and a limited budget ..
Is there really nothing for sale in Canada and America that makes you want to buy? In Russia, on the contrary, people from America order, Kitchens, for example, at a price of $ 180 + shipping - since in Russia it is many times more expensive, and the machine is very worthy ..
Buying Bosch in Europe, you will not have a guarantee + solve the voltage issue, do you need it?
lisssa
Nope, nothing like that is for sale. Kitchen Aid is just a mixer, no attachments, for $ 250 on sale, yes. But I need more functions in one device. And purely outwardly, he didn’t tell me at all. Like most North American vehicles, though. By the way, I read not very good reviews about Kitchen Aid. And I myself bought a Kitchen Aid processor for $ 400, thinking that it solved the problem, so it sprinkled pancake dough through the hole in the center and from under the lid (I know about the maximum liquid level, yesicho). Returned in disgrace.

I had MUM4 in Russia - 9 years without any complaints. In addition, a bunch of built-in and other Bosch equipment. Never a single problem. So I'm not really afraid of losing the guarantee. With tension, yes, I broke my whole head. But when I saw the new design of the MUM5 I just fell in love.

And by the way, the people who order Kitchens from America how they solve the problem of tension do not know?
sazalexter
lisssa They also decide through a transformer https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=194635.40 These devices do not excite me either technically or aesthetically.
Zima
on various websites, people have repeatedly spoken out on the topic that the technique that was done before is still working well, which cannot be said about the new technique, it breaks down much faster, and in general, the purchase of equipment has now become a lottery ..
but of course it's up to you to decide, just as the owner of mum 56340 (and rather happy with the device than not) I will say: it would even be in my head to take it from Europe if I lived on the other side of the ocean .. naturally IMHO
Happy shopping!
tana77
can you tell me who faced such a problem, my mother was presented with a 5530 combine about 4 years ago, but we couldn't turn it on, it's worth it, neither hands nor feet reach the service. maybe we put something wrong, what are the nuances. and it’s a pity standing idle. there were no instructions, the donor did not report.
Zima
with this question, contact the next topic - a Bosch food processor, which cuts into cubes - they will help you there, a model of a slightly different configuration is discussed here ..
bagirrra
Good day! happy owners of BOSCH MUM 54251, who makes it? on one of the sites I found a terrible word CHINA tried to find SLOVENIA, it didn’t work ..... so who is it?
sazalexter
bagirrra It is produced by BOSCH at a factory in Slovenia. This model is not officially supplied to Russia yet.
Irina22
Quote: bagirrra

Good day! happy owners of BOSCH MUM 54251, who makes it? on one of the sites I found the terrible word CHINA tried to find SLOVENIA, it didn’t work ..... so who?
Yesterday, in the M-video store, I specially stopped to see the nozzle for cubes, there on the box with the BOSCH MUM 54251 food processor it was written: "Made in China"! - I was surprised myself, I have a Slovenian assembly MUM 54240.

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