Tabletop ovens, stoves ...

Well huch some good. :-)

Added Sunday 02 Oct 2016 15:03

We will now be trampled out of here for discussions not on a direct topic.

Oh, that's it, I shut up. Thanks for communication.

[Ludmila]

Ludmila, Thank you ! I have 1 cm on the sides, 25 on top, so I want another shelf

[Mila56]

Mila56,

I think that for the best Meringue result, you need to experiment with lowering the baking temperature or with decreasing the time.

I'm an experimental fan but really don't like it. I bake-sushu at the minimum salary. and a decrease in time gives a damp cake inside - not at all.

I'm an experimental fan

Respect

Added on Monday 03 Oct 2016 07:01 AM

I bake-sushu at the minimum salary.

Do you put them in a preheated oven or not? I read in one place that they should be put in a cold oven at a temperature of 100 degrees. and bake-dry for 1.5-2 hours. Although another recipe indicates a baking temperature of 150 degrees. and where is the truth. Besides, if it should be all the same, it should be 100 degrees, but personally my stove overestimates by 30 degrees. , then we conclude. But I'm in baking Meringue, a layman

Added on Monday 03 Oct 2016 07:07 AM

I have 1 cm on the sides, 25 on top, so I want another shelf

So what's the matter, the sides are still less than the norm. But from above with a large margin. If you really want to, then you can

... If you really want to, then you can

So it seems to me that it's okay if it's not 25, cm 17)
And I rarely cook in the oven.

Tell me, does the rommelsbacher 1550 have an enamelled surface inside? Which oven models from rommelsbacher and steba have an enamelled surface?

I have a Rommelsbacher BG-1600 mini-oven, the inner surface is enameled, the oven is wonderful, I recommend it! I've been baking in it for about a year now and I can't get enough of it!

I have a Rommelsbacher BG-1600 mini-oven enamelled inner surface,

Yes, I just looked at this stove, very nice. True, its price from 15,000 to 17,000 rubles bites and not everyone can handle it. But the inner surface is enameled, and its weight is 13 kg. very much even inspires confidence in her. If finances allow, then of course a good and very good choice. Of course, in terms of the quality of the metal and the method of its internal processing, it cannot be compared with budget stoves, whose weight is about 8 kg.

Good day. Has anyone heard something about the Gemlux convection oven? They give it on the subway at a discount, I'm sitting thinking about taking it or it is better to order it for the staff ...

about the Gemlux convection oven?

What is the volume of the stove? I scored in a search engine to look at them. Their volume is 24,25,26,38 liters. And their temperature range is in 4 versions: from 100 to 250; from 150 to 450 (do they really exist?); from 30 to 230; from 40 to 230 degrees I would be interested in the third temperature regime, and the displacement is at least 26, but more is better. It is necessary to look at the functions of a particular model. Something on the forum did not hear about such a stove from anyone else. And what is the price for these models? And vice versa, their weight is not clear, which means that it is not known how strong the structure itself is. Budget stoves weigh about 8 kg. We must consider them according to the principle of an adequate price with good quality and functionality. And as for the brand of the stove, there is a marriage in the famous and expensive. There is a warranty period for this. Now I looked at the stove with a temperature regime of up to 450 degrees. , so its weight is 6.57 kg. (unless, of course, it is indicated correctly). And so, outwardly interesting stoves. It is not known that this brand is, but there are planetary mixers of this brand and much more. Only how the technique of this brand works

[Ludmila]

Ludmila, the fourth temperature option, 26 liters. Costs 8 tons. So I think it's worth it or not.

[Anita]

Anita, for comparison, my Rolsen 3026 stove now costs 5700-5800 rubles in a store in our city. But maybe this brand is more reliable, and therefore more expensive, but on the contrary, it has an LCD display, which increases the cost. I looked, it seems like you can cook in it without convection (meringue or biscuit). If so, then that's good. And you also need to pay attention to the internal dimensions of the camera. For example, the height between the upper and lower shades is desirable 20-22 cm, otherwise the bread in the forms can burn on top or a large cake can be sealed on top to the upper shades (as well as bread in a bakery form). It is necessary to pay attention to the depth of the inner chamber of the stove. In my oven, the depth is only 26 cm, or if it is close to the glass, then 27 cm, that is, I cannot bake a biscuit of a larger diameter in it. It is necessary to measure the internal dimensions, which are important, with a meter (tape measure) in the store.

Anita, did you watch the stove live? Does 30 cm pizza fit?

[severyanka76]

severyanka76, no, I could not get out ... as I see, I will unsubscribe.

Anita, the stove is interesting in terms of functionality. only I did not understand - there, it seems, there is no separate top + bottom. Do you think it affects cooking?

[severyanka76]

severyanka76, I always baked in the oven on the top plus mode, so I can't even imagine.

Good day. Can you please tell the owners of rolsen stoves, did you smell when you first turned on the stove and for how long? I bought a kw 3526 and I can't start baking in it, because when you turn it on, it gives off a strong smell of something burnt. The third time I turn it on, the smell goes on. In total, I worked for 3 hours at 200 degrees. What to do? Can you even bake in it or wait until the smell goes away?

Added Sunday 23 Oct 2016 04:18 PM

Now I have baked an apple, from the outer walls there is still the smell of burned plastic, from the inside - the smell of apples, mixed with some kind of foreign smell

I bought a kw 3526 and I can't start baking in it, because when you turn it on, it gives off a strong smell of something burnt. The third time I turn it on, the smell goes on. In total, I worked for 3 hours at 200 degrees.

I have a Rollsen 3026, the first time I turned it on at 150 170 degrees, but the smell was not strong and not for a long time. I don’t remember how long it was calcined because it was a long time ago (more than 2 years ago), but not for long. Somewhere 15-30 minutes. At the same time, keep the window open. This burns out the transport oils. If, before this procedure, it is not enough to wipe the inside and outside well (I first wiped it with a detergent), then the residual oils will burn out for a long time, giving off a smell and fumes (light smoke). And one more addition, for me personally, this stove overestimates the temperature by 30 degrees. (I tested it with a purchased thermometer for ovens). It turns out that when setting 200 degrees. in real life there is 230 degrees in the cell. We must take this into account, this is important. And in general, table stoves may not give out exactly the temperature that they set. Specifically, each stove can overestimate or underestimate the temperature (and this is not such a rarity) or give out the one that was set. A thermometer is required to test the temperature compliance. So the possible 230 deg. that you have as a result of calcining the stove is a lot. Although they write in the instructions that the first calcination of the stove is done at the maximum temperature, I do not advise doing this because of the possible temperature discrepancy. Do not forget that you are driving the stove for a long time, and the chamber is empty, well, and its heating is too long in time. If it were at 200 degrees. baked meat, that's another matter. When heated to 200 degrees. the chamber was set to bake meat, then the temperature in the chamber at this moment will decrease (cold meat takes the temperature) and only after a while will it again pick up these 200 degrees. It turns out that not all the time of baking something in the chamber is the set temperature. It's just that with prolonged heating of an empty chamber (or almost empty), and even at such a high temperature, the insulation of the el.wires (the lamp in the chamber is powered by an electric wire, etc.) (and the smell is specific and this smell differs from the smell of burning oils). Probably I wrote a lot of unnecessary things.

[Mila56]

Mila56, thanks for the answer). I read on the Internet about the smell of new e-mails. stoves, many complain about hansa stoves, write that the smell goes away in only a few months. Apparently, Rolsen manufacturers changed something in the production of stoves, because my mother had exactly the same stove, bought a year ago, quickly burned and did not smell. I don't even know what to do, but to give a child pastries from such an oven, I'm just afraid ...

Hello! I really want to become the owner of an electric oven. currently selected models ENERGY EN-1004 or Tesler EOG-1800 (2300) Black. I do not need a large volume. there are not many of us
flipped through the topic (all the same, 129 pages quickly do not read carefully) and did not find the owners of these models. there are such? I would like to hear a review about these stoves. not enough on the internet like that

many complain about hansa stoves, write that the smell goes away in just a few months. Apparently, Rolsen manufacturers changed something in the production of stoves, because my mother had exactly the same stove, bought a year ago, quickly burned and did not smell.

Sucks. And what to do is not clear. Doesn't she raise the temperature? If it overestimates too much (be sure to check), by 50 degrees or something like that, then just set the temperature less when baking. And if, after checking with a thermometer, it turns out that it does not overestimate much or does not overestimate at all and at the same time emits such a smell, then you will have to take it to the service. The sellers themselves cannot check whether it smells or not, although it is likely that it can be turned on in the store for verification, but alas, the sellers are not experts, they will say that the oven heats up, which means it works. So you can give up the stove in different ways. Sadness however

ENERGY EN-1004

the EN-1005 also came under the choice. she has a little more displacement. but here's the question: there is a grill / convection button on the case. there you can separately on / off it is obtained at will for any mode (top, bottom, top / bottom) ?? Or am I not understanding something? Shapoklyak, I found, had such a stove for 20 liters,

[Mariyka858]

Mariyka858, Maria, I can’t see the front control panel close up. Often there are modes - only the lower ten, only the upper ten (grill), the upper and lower ten simultaneously. Convection in some stoves is switched on separately in any mode, and in some convection is linked by one button to any mode. It is difficult to say anything about this stove without seeing the control panel, there is little information about it on the Internet, as a rule one photo, and even at a certain angle, that the inscriptions at the control knobs are not visible, very small. You can find and insert a photo with clearly visible inscriptions at the pens. it will be possible to understand about its regimes.

it is impossible to insert a photo of something, and links cannot be given to me according to the rules. the same button is on the 1004 model. but the photos on the Internet are about the same (not much closer). I also found instructions for 1004. They differ from 1005 only in volume. it says that this is "convection / grill mode regulator"

[Maria]

Now I looked at model 1002, it has 3 control knobs on the panel and a separate button for on and off convection. Maria, if you have the same, then the convection is switched on separately. And so, they write that it has 3 independent modes - top, bottom, top + bottom. Whether the airflow will be connected to all three modes or only to the up + down mode or other options is unknown.

[Mila56]

Mila56, Lyudmila, I'm just going to buy. more and more inclined towards the ENERGY EN-1005 model (all the same the volume is larger). her panel is just the same. 3 handles and a separate button for convection. the instructions do not really say anything. it turns out that only experiments ..
rummaged through the posts "Shapoklyak", but did not fully understand.

3 handles and a separate button for convection.

In terms of functions, it is absolutely normal, even if convection is not connected to all 3 modes, well, it makes no difference. I cook without convection, although it is there, unnecessarily like that. But I can't say anything about the quality of the stove you chose. The usual budget option, which many have, but I don't remember about this one, so that there was information here. And vice versa, I would not buy an unknown stove over the Internet, because I need to know, for example, what is the distance between the upper and lower shadows. Here is to feel it in the store, try on the required internal dimensions and if everything suits you, then order it through the online store. Or if this is a well-known stove on the forum, where everything will be told about it, then you can through the online store.

All that I could find on this forum is a few posts "Shapoklyak". but she has a model 1002, it is 20 liters. Even somewhere the distance between the shadows is indicated and the size of the shape that fits. Judging by the reviews, she is satisfied with almost everything. cupcakes just do not turn out model 1004 is also for 20 liters, only there is a grill function. model 1005 is the same: 3 modes, convection, grill. but now the volume is already 28 liters. not much, but more. there are not many reviews on the Internet, but they are normal. I have not found anywhere else. All that is "known" is a little expensive for me. not ready now. and as I understood, many have more serious stoves in volume. I definitely do not plan to be a hero. there are only three of us and everything is prepared in small portions. and for "liquid" and even more so a multicooker is used. it is a pity that we could not find reviews promptly.

PS ^ I will pukapat self-pickup. there is a chance to touch her (if all the same 1005 is agreed with her husband)

model 1005 is the same:

And what is it worth? On the Internet, prices are from 3000 to 5000 rubles.

yes, I found it for 3400 in stock. but after carefully reviewing the technical characteristics, I realized that it was only 2 cm higher than the model 1004. which means that it does not make sense to overpay. the distance between the shadows will practically not change (for a 20 liter 21 cm). I looked at a larger volume only for this. + it is deeper and wider than 1004, and my place is very limited in these parameters. with the same success you can buy 1004. power 1380, 20L, convection, grill.

1002 has a capacity of 1380, 20 liters, convection 45 x 34.7 x 32.7 cm (1004 is the same)
1005 power 1500, 28 HP, convection, grill 49.5 x 36.5 x 42 cm
now I am breaking through the price and availability. maybe I'll go take it on Saturday. but look first.

the distance between the shadows will practically not change (for a 20 liter 21 cm).

Normal distance.

with the same success you can buy 1004. power 1380, 20 liters, convection, grill.

Then of course

so I thought so. waiting for confirmation of delivery. it’s too painful to go to Korolev from Zelenograd .. but I really want to try some bread as soon as possible

[plain]

take in the ranks of the owners
energy en-1004 was bought on Saturday. first impression: the stove is small, the distance between the shades is 21 cm. There is no backlight. I can measure the full dimensions of the oven if necessary. 3 levels of setting the pan, convection is switched on separately with a button. Includes: handle for baking tray and skewer, skewer, baking tray, grill rack.
In work: the temperature has not yet been checked for compliance, since there is no thermometer yet. The heating is very fast, the side walls and the top are noticeably heated (but also cool down quickly). glass and metal parts on it, too. but the handle is acceptable. The grill, during operation, seems to "stick" a little (3 turns and a click. And the "groove" itself is displaced. The guide inside the oven is probably crookedly installed. Not critical)

I tried to bake wheat bread (American) according to the recipe from the site and grilled chicken (I found a kilo of chicken). everything worked out great.
I will select a recipe plain rye bread. most likely this will be the first thing that the husband will now ask for.

[Maria]

energy en-1004 was bought on saturday

MariaCongratulations on your purchase !!! We will be looking forward to the results of testing and baking. Moreover, there is little practical information about the stove.

Thank you Lyudmila. As soon as possible, I will remove the dimensions from the usable volume of the oven and the forms that I had and fit perfectly (silicone).that's just while I'm getting used to the forum, I need to understand where and what to write (the results of baking, for example)

[Maria]

(baking results for example)

Mariawhat is baked and cooked in a tabletop oven and write about it in this thread (how they did it, from what products, etc.). And photos of ready-made dishes can be shown here. You can draw up a separate recipe, but others will tell you about this (I do not draw up a separate recipe)

many thanks!

Mastering the technique continues. Unfortunately, half of what was cooked had already been eaten and did not even have time to photograph. Prepared: grilled chicken. fits a chicken weighing 1300. but I will not risk a larger one, too close to the upper shadow. 230 gr. about 1.5 hours with convection. Everything is baked. did not fry too much.

Experiments with wheat wallpaper and peeled rye flour. exhausted not a little before finding its proportions. tastes like rustic gray. a little sweetness, because it is baked with honey. 45 minutes of baking for 190 gr.



there were also sausages in dough and focaccia from the ready-made mixture of "Focaccia with herbs" "S. Pudov "is very tasty. but ate very quickly

[Mariyka858]

Mariyka858, it is very good that your friendship with the stove has worked out. Culinary masterpieces were also successful, bread is especially good. No wonder they say that bread is the head of everything, I love it in any form. But I am kinder from bread, so I try to limit myself, although I do not succeed very much

[Mila56]

Mila56, thanks Lyudmila. friendship began with a heap of burns, the height of the stove is not great. I will continue to experiment with different breads and types of flour, and later with doughs and sourdough. next in line is one more idea, if today I can bake, I will show. also did not measure the physical dimensions of the oven. I'll post it too.

friendship started with a bunch of burns

You need to get used to any technique, master it, this is a must. Have you tested the temperature compliance? I wonder if the set temperature corresponds to the real one, which is in the oven chamber for 15-20 minutes. before the end of baking. Although it is easy to adapt to temperature inconsistencies. Which is what I had until I bought a thermometer for the ovens.

This question also torments me, but unfortunately I have not bought a thermometer yet. planned to search this weekend.

planned to search this weekend.

I bought a thermometer in my usual but not a small city store, where everything for the kitchen, from spoons and utensils to goods for hiking in nature. It's called the oven thermometer. It is small in size and can be overlooked in store heaps, it is better to ask the sellers.

understood. Thank you

My agony of choice continues. Shteba 41 flaunts in the kitchen awaiting the decision of his fate. The upper ten is located on both sides at different levels. On the left, it is located lower than on the right. Officials assure that this is -
.....

Bottom up messages

If everything works, there is nothing to fix in the service, and even more so, you should not get upset over such trifles. In the copy of my first reply, the addresses of the representatives of the distributor company in Russia. They can ask Steba engineers a question about "How so."

good day

Thanks for the quick response. But how can it be. The smaller Shteba has everything in order with the shadows. And why is it so here? Can it be possible to fix it in the service center?
I want the oven to please, not upset
Tuesday, 8 November 2016, 9:24 +03: 00 from "Sale / Comfort-MAX" <sale @ comfort-

The oven is fine. The slightly uneven position of the heating element is a feature of the layout and assembly. The "defect" is purely cosmetic and does not affect the operation of the oven. If you are categorically not satisfied with this state of affairs, you can return the device to the seller (do not change, but return it, because when you replace it, you will receive exactly the same oven).

Best regards, Alexander (495) 223-15-77 🔗
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 11:52 PM
To: sale
Subject: Message from the contact form
Commentary: Hello.
04 11 2016 purchased electric oven Shteba 41 in the online store.When checking the house, it turned out that the upper ten was not located exactly, but with a deviation. I can send a scan of receipts, orders and a photo of the stove. How can I exchange this oven for a quality one?
Regards, Anna
Now, expecting that the representatives of Shteba will not want to spoil the good name of the brand, I look to the side
Simfer M4273
Maybe someone came across them?
Confused that the power is only 1400 versus 2000 at Shteba

The upper ten is located on both sides at different levels. On the left, it is located lower than on the right.

Something I did not understand What does it mean to the left and right? If I am not mistaken, one is located closer to the door, and the other is closer to the back wall. This is mainly the case in stoves, if the shadows are in the form of straight tubes. True, there are also upper and lower shades in the form of the letter "Z", but they are less common in stoves. And how far in height is the difference between the upper shadows? I would like to see the photo, but I'm afraid it is impossible to determine the discrepancy in the height of the upper shadows from the photo. And another important question - what is the distance between the front upper and lower shadows and the back shadows between the upper and lower shadows? Ideally, this and there should be the same distance. Let's say I have it 22 cm between the top and bottom of the front shadows and similarly for the back shadows. If the difference is small, say no more than 1 cm, then this is not critical and will not interfere with successfully using the stove. On this occasion, you can not break your head. But if this difference is much greater, then, for example, bread in some baking forms can burn, bake to a tena that is too low. And the service really will not do anything in this case (if the stove is working), they will not cut technological holes in the side walls of the stove in order to rearrange the underestimated ten. This is a really constructive feature of this stove.

Added Wednesday 09 Nov 2016 09:44 AM

The upper ten is located on both sides at different levels. On the left, it is located lower than on the right.

Oh, damn it got to me. This turns out to be the same ten (one tube) at one side of the wall above, and at the other below. If this is a small deviation, then let it go. Maybe you shouldn't hammer your head.

Added Wednesday 09 Nov 2016 09:52

The upper ten is located on both sides at different levels. On the left, it is located lower than on the right.

This is a flaw, or rather an error of the manufacturer. The level of one technological hole was marked incorrectly on the drawing of the side wall of the stove, and the workers cut this hole according to the drawing. There are many such "blunders".

All DD! I’ve already broken my whole head ... Why is there no place where you could see / touch them all? Scattered one by one all over the city, and even then not all of them ...

What can you say about Avex TY500RСL specifically and this company in general? Solid, do not break? ...
Especially interesting in comparison with LUXELL LX3570 and DELTA DL-0524G black and DELTA D-024 and DELTA D-024B well, and up to a heap of LUXELL KF 3125
What do you advise?
You need a big \ good \ inexpensive

Something I did not understand What does it mean -ten left and right?

That's roughly how

The drawing is upside down. Top shadow in the picture below. And you can see that it is not located exactly

It also seems to me that this is a marriage. I suppose that from such an arrangement of the ten, the near side of the product will fry more. I would replace.

Top shadow in the picture below. And you can see that it is not located exactly

Yes, for some reason it seems to me that the difference in the level of the ten is more than 1 cm. As if not even 2 cm. Yes, one side of the pastry on top may, even more likely, burn. This drawback must be indicated in the claim and must add a photo. I would not want to have such a marriage. Write to them that their lack of understanding forces you to arrange anti-advertising for this product in all mass media, because you do not find understanding on their part. All this in writing, indicating the timing of the release of the first anti-advertising.Such a development of events may be, if there is no option left to return the stove and get money or exchange it for another, but not of this brand, since this marriage can be repeated in these stoves. Maybe there are other exit options and I'm pumping (exaggerating)

Added Wednesday 09 Nov 2016 10:15 PM

Confused that the power is only 1400 versus 2000 at Shteba

For example, my Rolsen 3026 stove (30 liters) has a power of 1500 watts. Quite enough. We need to look at other 42-liter stoves and compare their capacities.