Yutan
And yet, as a former chemist, I argue that plastic is polycarbonate, and not some kind of polystyrene. It is the least harmful. ... The residual content of impurities is practically zero. Gives off carbon dioxide during combustion. I worked in one of the laboratories dealing with this polymer before the collapse of the country.
Lyi
Quote: Musyanya

The mediators' office is located right in our city. Me: umnik2: at first I wanted to call, find out everything, then I sent a request before the weekend via ICQ and the social network mail (they are still registered on the mail.)
Musyanya, or you can link to their website in Blagoveshchensk. Still, to communicate in Russian, I hope that in their office communication is in Russian, much more pleasant than in this Rutaobaorian language.
By the way, in terms of our rubles, how much does this pasta machine cost?
sazalexter
Quote: Lyi

Musyanya, or you can link to their website in Blagoveshchensk. Still, to communicate in Russian, I hope that in their office communication is in Russian, much more pleasant than in this Rutaobaorian language.
By the way, in terms of our rubles, how much does this pasta machine cost?
See above, he told everything in detail 110 yuan with delivery and an intermediary price of about 3200 rubles
Lyi
Quote: Yutan

Taobao broker
Yutan, Thank you!
The site has opened, the phone is there, but on this site I can not open the page with this automatic dumpling. Suddenly, when I call, they will not understand me and will not send an automatic machine, but with a roll-out.
Are there any peculiarities to tell them that I need an automatic machine?
Sazalexter!
Is your answer about a dumpling machine or a pasta machine?
Yutan
An electric pasta machine costs 258 yuan. To me - expensive delivery. I ordered a village outside Suzdal to my dacha. It was cheaper to go to Moscow. But because of this, I did not want to go to Moscow from my beds and wait there for an unknown amount of time. Delivery by EMS. It cost me a little more than 5000 rubles. In Moscow, it would be 500 rubles cheaper. I compared it with the Italian counterpart (300 euros without delivery), I was satisfied with a more budgetary option. Let's see how she works.
By the way, my son came to Moscow with a plastic dumpling machine, which I ordered through these intermediaries. Trained on mashed potatoes. The flight is normal. So, you still need to lighten the minced meat and make it lighter. We ordered another car for a friend.
sazalexter
Lyi Actually, here is the branch "Machines for making dumplings, ravioli"
Lyi
Musyanya, Yutan, Thanks for the clarification.
We'll have to wait with the pasta machine, I'll sit and see how you will evaluate it. I have KM 020 in Kenwood nozzles, I didn't like the pasta, it's very slow, you'll get tired of waiting for this pasta to hatch. And then it's problematic to clean.
But with a dumpling machine I will order. But my camera is dead and how will I order without a photo?
Yutan, and why such an expensive delivery to Moscow 4500? I hoped that the whole dumpling machine would cost me a little more than 3 thousand rubles, but here only delivery is 4500.
Maybe the Blagoveshchensk intermediaries are so expensive and it is better to take the link Sazalexter? Write, plz, how much the dumpling cost a car through Blagoveshchensk.
Sazalexter, first of all, thanks for the links. : flowers: And secondly, we discussed at once and a dumpling machine and pasta. I will not run from one topic to another and ask similar questions.
And how much did your dumpling machine cost you? I remember you wrote before, but looking for where this business is long
Lyi
Quote: Yutan

Lyi This is the entire cost of the car with delivery.
Hmmm, still overrun (4500).Either I wanted so much, or really someone wrote that the machine cost a dumpling machine 3 thousand rubles with a small tail.
Let's see what Sazalexter writes, maybe it's cheaper?
Of course, Blagoveshchensk tempts, if the marriage can be at least swindle take away your soul and swear. But for now, a more economical option is needed, although all my life I have been telling myself that the avaricious pays twice.
sazalexter
Lyi because the weight turned out to be not 4.5 kg but 5.97 kg total amount with delivery 3,416 rubles
sazalexter
musyanya, Lyi Everything would be fine only the inner packaging is very weak, the parcel usually comes with a broken measuring glass made of polyethylene (the machine is quite heavy), a trifle but not very pleasant. Broken glass turned out to be at me and
kruglii
Lyi
Quote: Pakat

I found this dumpling machine in angelic ...
Wait, I figure out how much it will cost with the shipment ...
Sazalexter , Thank you!
Yes, 3400 tempts more than 4500, cheaper by almost a thousand rubles.
Hence the questions:
Did you have delivery by EMC or by regular mail?
How long did it go?
To understand this gibberish language is very difficult. Where to poke "buy"
I don’t understand.
Pay with PayPal only? I do not like her, she takes a lot for the transfer. Money is not allowed in Yandex?
Yutan
Well, I'm through taobao. RU. com. 3250 cost to my village. A week to Blagoveshchensk and 4 days to the village beyond Suzdal. Nothing is crushed. Everything is packed well.
Lyi
Quote: Yutan

Well, I'm through taobao. RU. com. 3250 cost to my village. A week to Blagoveshchensk and 4 days to the village beyond Suzdal. Nothing is crushed. Everything is packed well.
Yutan, I understood correctly that 3250 is the cost of a dumpling machine with delivery? And she went by regular mail and not EMC?
I am waiting for an answer and if so, then tonight I will place an order.
Sazalexter, thank you, it's always nice when you have a choice. I am not ready to overpay for the delivery of EMC thousand rubles. I will order by regular mail.
Yutan
3250 is the shipping cost of the dumpling machine. It was sent by EMC. Received from Blagoveshchensk in 4 days. And the pasta cost a little more than 5000 (I don't remember how much), too, EMC-som. I am already confused in these premises. I ordered it for my son, ordered it for my son's friend, ordered a slow cooker for myself Hotter ... Already at the village post office they greeted me with fear. They haven't had this before. I can already hear: "Come in large numbers here" ...
Lyi
The robot sent a letter to this dumpling so that they could calculate the cost.
Tomorrow I will wait for their answer.
Thanks again to all the assistants: Musyan, Yutan, Sazalexter.
What would I do without you? And so all inaccuracies and ambiguities have already settled and, with a clear conscience, ordered a typewriter.
Oh, I forgot. And how to convert yuan into rubles, or rather how many yuan in one ruble, or vice versa?
sazalexter
Lyi Why such difficulties? Click on the link to add to the cart, then everything seems to be clear, choose weight, mail, payment method. If you want the money not to hang on the balance, pay a little less weight, for example 5.5 kg. then a request for an additional payment will come, you will make it and that's it. It happened to me by accident. It will take a little longer, really
musyanya
Lyi, everyone phoned, they found the letter. They will answer today. (They called me at 4.23 days.)
Gin
Machine for making dumplings, ravioli

has it already been discussed here? accidentally saw on the Internet
I was looking for a dough sheeter, but I came across this miracle
under the photo this link was, it is called Raviolivorsatz für Nudelmaschine SP150 von Imperia - probably a Raviolivorsatz
Lyi
Quote: Musyanya

Lyi, everyone phoned, found the letter. They will answer today. (They called me at 4.23 days.)
Musyanya, thank you!
It's good that there is a forum, and there are responsive people. No need to spend money on long distance calls to find out if the letter has arrived.
Tell them to register you for a half job, so I would go to any other intermediary, and so I order through them. Or at least they give you goods with a ba-a-alsha discount for mediation.
Sazalexter, how are we without difficulties? It's in our blood, so to speak, in our genetic memory.
And then, in addition to the machine's dumplings, I asked them to look at a number of other products on Taobao's websites:
thermometer for roasting meat, poultry, etc.
sandwich maker 3 in 1 (grill waffle maker, sandwich maker)
roll-up machine
form for cutlets.
Anyway, with this Google translation, I don’t understand a fig on their sites. And so they will find something in this spirit, well, no, I will not be upset either.
Yutan
Quote: Lyi

And then, in addition to the machine's dumplings, I asked them to look at a number of other products on Taobao's websites:
roll-up machine
form for cutlets.
Can you tell us more about these devices later? Is this rolls for sushi? And the cutlet mold is like crushing hamburgers?
Yutan
sazalexter How are you with dumplings? My son made dumplings with potatoes. True, I have not tried to do it lately, since we have incredible dryness. Not a single rain since early May. All the time my husband and I water something. Not for dumplings. How are you doing?
Lyi
Quote: sazalexter

Lyi Aaa, it is clear it was ordered, the one in Blagoveshchensk st. Tchaikovsky 7, office 204
And I, through an intermediary in Moscow
Yeah, Moscow is a big crowd of people walking there, and Blagoveshchensk is small and across the Amur this very China is clearly visible. I was there once and my son studied at the institute there. They said that a ferry from Blagoveshchensk would go to China.
So it will be easier to see and send the defective goods back to China.
Well, I think so, but God disposes, and that no one knows better.
Yutan, I will definitely unsubscribe if they find something. Yes, the rolls are for sushi, and the forms are for hamburger patties.
Actually, if they spent money and translated into a normal, not machine translation, Taobao catalog, they would have a lot of additional orders.
sazalexter
Quote: Yutan

sazalexter How are you with dumplings?
Unfortunately, too bad with time, I tried it only once and even then it was not successful.
Yutan
Lyi Thanks for the answer. Well they are expanding. Recruit people with knowledge of the language. On the whole, I agree with you. You look at these hieroglyphs like a ram at a new gate ... Thanks Google ...
sazalexter
Lyi Here is dug, the cost of delivery from Blagoveshchensk to Krasnodar will cost about 843 rubles. So the machine is 474.35+ the percentage of the intermediary is 20% 94.87 + EMS delivery in China 2340 rubles + delivery "ZhelDorExpedition" to Krasnodar 843 rubles, and that 3752.22 rubles
Lyi
🔗
Quote: sazalexter

Lyi Here is dug, the cost of delivery from Blagoveshchensk to Krasnodar will cost about 843 rubles. So the machine is 474.35+ the percentage of the intermediary is 20% 94.87 + EMS delivery in China 2340 rubles + delivery "ZheldorExpedition" to Krasnodar 843 rubles, and that 3752.22 rubles
I hope it will be cheaper. The site says that the cost of shipping within China is from 300 rubles per kg, that is, 300x6 = 1800 rubles, but EMC can cost a pretty penny. God forbid to invest in 1000 rubles.
But I can also replay, and if it is very expensive, I will ask you to recount everything by regular mail. And ZheldorEkspedition definitely does not suit me, I like that they bring everything home to me (you can send me to the post office), but I don’t agree to go somewhere for the parcel.
Now I asked for a shortcut and send it to me for payment
sazalexter
Lyi We read: In Russia
In China
We only use EMS (within China), these are the conditions for working with us)
All goods are assembled in China within 1-2 weeks. Considering the receipt of the order, processing and collection in China of all parcels in one.
(And this is 600 rubles / kg)
Yutan
I looked at my account. 300 rubles per kg. I myself chose EMC. They can also mail. And they are in no hurry to answer, it was the same for me. They order and wait for the goods to arrive across China to their warehouse. It's about a week. Then events unfold faster. We are again waiting for a dumplings for a friend of our son.
Black_cat
Quote: Gin

Machine for making dumplings, ravioli

has it already been discussed here? accidentally saw on the Internet
I was looking for a dough sheeter, but I came across this miracle
under the photo this link was, it is called Raviolivorsatz für Nudelmaschine SP150 von Imperia - probably a Raviolivorsatz

This is a terribly inconvenient invention, you can watch on YouTube how they suffer with this garbage. I have such a device, I am far from delighted - to contrive minced meat to puff into each raviolka - I do this with a pastry bag with a long nozzle-tube, and turn it half a turn, and all over again;
and they are the size of a Soviet postage stamp for 3 kopecks.

SO, as drawn in the picture, this garbage does not work, by the way, the raviolnik attachment for KitchenAid and Kenwood is made according to the same principle.

Money thrown away, IMHO
Lyi
Here is the first Be-e-e from the intermediaries from Blagoveshchensk, they said that they were accepting an order, issued strictly according to the established form.In this case, a sample of filling is given for clothes and there should be a photo. Like this;
Shop no. * Link name of goods color of goods your size - girths chest-waist-hips availability of goods at the seller's photo of the selected item notes price, yuan * quantity
In general, I do not like this, I have to puzzle over looking for where this store and all other data.
Is this the case everywhere or are these intermediaries very sophisticated?
In my order, I gave a link to the site where this dumpling machine is displayed
and said that I want just such, that this is not enough for them? There is a photo and a seller and everything else. Or they are too lazy to open this site themselves and fill out that form if they really need it.
Yutan, please give me a sample of filling your order.
If not, then I will send them, perhaps, by the forest and turn to another company.
Yutan
Yes, on the second page I just indicated the link and the cost and my data and that's it. Drop me your mail in PM and I will send you my form in Excel.
They then send you this form with the calculation back. There is nothing complicated there. On the first page is a sample. Fill out the second.
Lyi
In addition to the previous post.
Regarding the goods that I would like to order, but did not find myself on these Taobaohs, they answered me that "since there is an official catalog on our site or the Chinese site itself," then look for everything yourself.
Although they write on their website ... I quote ... If you cannot find what you were looking for, our managers will definitely find an option that fully satisfies all your wishes.
Hmmm, the service is purely Russian and obviously old times. Only advertising tells what wonderful employees they are, and everything else ...
And I am tempted to write reviews about them both in their blog and in contact.
Yutan, I went to personalize my e-mail. Thank you.
Yutan
To be honest, I'm surprised. Everything was correct and polite with me. Even at 12 at night, Masha is in touch on Skype. I corresponded with her, as the audibility is poor. But if they continue like this, of course, we will make them a pen. There are plenty of competitors.
Black_cat
Virgin!
Taobao is the rottenest store. This is the first thing.
Second, the East is a delicate matter. And their logic defies understanding.
Yutan
Black_cat We're talking about our Russians. Spun a little and already lifted up their nose. I have been working at the bank recently, so we were told that not only is the client always right, even if he is wrong. You can at least scratch the entire tabletop under the table out of anger, but you must smile at the client and clearly explain and help.
Pakat
Wait, he sent 25 bucks for a typewriter, they will buy it out, send it and finally rip me off for sending it ...
They grabbed some money, they even sent a receipt ...
Black_cat
Quote: Yutan

Black_cat but you have to smile at the client and explain and help clearly.

Here. We are talking about the Russians. but remember the Russians, workers of the housing department

And the client, yes, he is always right .. only you forget that the client's rights do not apply to the online store. You have not yet faced the withdrawal of your money from there .. ask matroskina - she encountered this interesting service.

In our family and among my friends, Chinese shops are blacklisted.
kruglii
Quote: Pakat

Wait, he sent 25 bucks for a typewriter, they will buy it out, send it and finally rip me off for sending it ...
They grabbed some money, they even sent a receipt ...
And the site from which you ordered, I understand, too, intermediaries, but where do they explain.
Pakat
From China, resellers work through PayPal, those with a money back guarantee, if something goes wrong ...
kruglii
Quote: Pakat

From China, resellers work through PayPal, those with a money back guarantee, if something goes wrong ...
Paypal is a good thing, there is always a refund option.
I am interested in one more office that is not in some way not connected with Aliexpress.com, otherwise Paypal stops working on this site from August 3, which is very regrettable, since there are a lot of delicious goods at a very reasonable price, I myself have already purchased there several times, don’t know
Pakat
kruglii, I think they are not connected, Aliexpress works through Alibaba.com, and I do not contact them ...
The fact that they are leaving PayPal is not a good sign, they are getting out of control, there seem to have been precedents ...
I went through the site looking for a typewriter, they don't have it ...
Black_cat
Quote: Pakat

From China, resellers work through PayPal, those with a money back guarantee, if something goes wrong ...
All guarantee a refund if it is not a scam site.
But withdrawing money from Taobao is very hemorrhoid - the moderators will forgive me! - procedure, and even with a commission.
Pakat
Black_cat, the return is not guaranteed by the sellers, but by the PayPal payment system through which the payment is made.
I have been working with this system for many years, there were no problems ...
Pakat
Quote: kruglii

Duc, I realized that from this. But where did these guys come from ........ explain if you know.
krugliiWait a glance at the tracking, they are sending from MINHANG, translate it yourself ...
And the seller in Ningbo (Zhejiang), all these are towns, or areas around Shanghai ...
And the parcel is already in Shanghai, on the way from the sorting center ...
sazalexter
Pakat There in Ningbo (Zhejiang) there is a factory for their production, like the manufacturer and sells them
Lyi
Yes, it’s not my destiny to get this dumpling machine.
Yutan, thanks to her, sent me her form, by which she ordered her devices, without a photo, but with an indication of the site where there is a photo of this dumpling machine.
I submitted this form, replacing my personal information with my own. She also suggested that if they need this form, they can fill it out themselves, since there is everything for it, and then they will send it to me for confirmation.
But I got the answer: (quote)
"Our conditions are as follows: you fill out the order form yourself, insert a photo yourself, etc., and then send it to us. After that we review your order, check for availability, calculate, etc."
In general, in the reviews on their website, I sent them hearty greetings, and if they do not normalize the situation, I will send a similar review about this company to other places.
I sincerely don’t understand why they need me to fill out this form by myself, how they didn’t think of checking it out, and suddenly ... this very form I will fill out not myself but my relatives. Nonsense!
and where they are I did not find, I did not find there a catalog for the kitchen.
Perhaps, if it is in Russia, then you can order through it.
And in Blagoveshchensk, besides this company, there are no intermediaries working with Taobao?
Musyanya, did you hear anything there?
I don't want to work directly with the Chinese.
Yutan
Lyudmila, maybe you should heed the advice sazalexter ? There are many intermediaries. There is a choice ... The light did not converge on them ...
I have, by the way, a bummer with a pasta machine. Broke at first use. They (intermediaries) promised to change, because the warranty is 5 years.
And I sit and think: "I need it?" ... I don't know what to do.
sazalexter
Lyi Filling out forms, choosing a product, placing an order, registering in a store, you do it YOURSELF! This is a common practice. Managers don't do this. They can clarify something if there are any misunderstandings or doubts, but nothing more.
Black_cat
Quote: Yutan

bummer with a pasta machine. Broke at first use. They (intermediaries) promised to change, because the warranty is 5 years.
And I sit and think: "I need it?" ... I don't know what to do.

What about the loot? and throw it in the trash with the car?

My son bought a Desire phone, but not on rutaobao, but in a St. Petersburg store. The thing is good and expensive, even though it's China. Something there revealed a marriage - so it was replaced within a week, and the parcel did not come from St. Petersburg, but from China, from the manufacturer. Like this
Lyi
Quote: sazalexter

Lyi Filling out forms, choosing a product, placing an order, registering in a store, you do it YOURSELF!
I cannot agree with you.
In previous years, given the remoteness from the center, I purchased goods at least in 10-15 Internet shops or LLC, OJSC intermediary firms.
And ALWAYS the order was made in the following way: I wrote a letter of ANY form, where I indicated the link on which this product is depicted, wrote my details and indicated how I would ask to deliver it to me.
ALL!!! No mandatory strictly defined forms, no photographs were required from me.
Now about the link that you gave me.
Firstly, I do not like that the goods come directly from China, and do not come to the company's warehouse, de it is checked.
Secondly, this very cheap dumpling machine is only 28 yuan, and not 110, as I tried to order through Blagoveshchensk. Maybe that's why Yutan has a dumpling machine, but the others don't. Although, I think that if I give the company a link for a 110 yuan car, they will send it exactly.
So the first point is rather confusing.
But with all this confusion, I lost my appetite for this very machine.
Sazalexter, how much did your car cost you?
Yutan, of course, if I decide, I will contact another intermediary firm.

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