Scarecrow
My toad also died, I guess. I don't want a dumpling machine. I don't want anything at all. I want to sleep. We were also going to have a drink with Irka. Yes.
IRR
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b. We were also going to have a drink with Irka. Yes.
I’m here, by the way, I’m reading about a goat and hopelessness ... I’ll finish reading it ...: girl_in_dreams: then it will be clear what to drink for - for health or quite the opposite

shl. how I missed it, reported. do not come, the forum sleeps with scarecrow
sazalexter
I tried to make 500 flour, 260 water, a tablespoon of sunflower oil, salt from the dough according to the recipe from the machine. Minced meat twice on a fine grid of a Panasonic meat grinder. The result is I'm shocked. The wife intervened, mixed flour into the dough, it turned out to be 3+.
Until I realized what was needed, this is the correct clamping of the dumpling shaper, it is selected empirically
Black_cat
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I tried to make 500 flour, 260 water, a tablespoon of sunflower oil, salt from the dough according to the recipe from the machine.
There is a lot of water in the dough .. too
musyanya
I couldn't wait for the full amount of minced meat and tried to make dumplings. Apart from fish and 300 grams of cottage cheese, nothing was found in the house. I kneaded the dough in Panasonic (450g of flour, 250 water, 1 tbsp of butter and 0.5 tsp of salt), and chopped the curd a little together with a small amount of baked milk, so that it looked like a "pate". Since the time before my hungry husband came home from work was only half an hour, I didn't have time to take a picture. As soon as my pate cottage cheese penetrated into the tube, almost normal dumplings immediately climbed. All the previous dumplings without cottage cheese were also not very scary - even with an air bubble inside. There were few torn pieces, they went straight to processing and rework. As a result of the experiment, I and the eldest (the youngest slept) got 25 pieces of normal dumplings with cottage cheese that were cooked right there in lacucine and eaten by me and my hungry husband. There was not enough minced meat for more dumplings. The machine disassembles quite well, I was even smart enough to put it back together as it was (as a child, I dismantled alarm clocks, but assemble it ...). A light bulb immediately lit up in my head - where could I get more minced meat, I even want dumplings from chicken meat ... Earlier, they made fish from pink salmon .... I got a cool, useful toy !!!!
Pakat
sazalexter, Sasha, I made the dough, just like that, just added a couple of tablespoons of panifarin, a pinch of salt, no butter.
We took a little more water ~ 300 ml, we need less. The correct consistency will only work out empirically, because everyone has different flours and conditions.
The filling should be slightly liquid and airy.
Round, ayuu, you were the first to start, get some experience ...
Pakat
musyanya, Luda, so that fewer empty ones come out, you need to form a dough tube, with an empty filling dispenser, get 1-2 empty ones, then put a couple of tablespoons of the filling in the dispenser and gently push them into the dispenser pipe, to the top of the pipe, add all the filling, install the lid with pre-pressing , close the brace and go full finished ...
Yutan
musyanya Lyudmila, congratulations on the purchase and successful start of operation of the dumpling machine. I also dream of making cottage cheese, but all hands do not reach.
musyanya
Thank you all for your congratulations !!!
I already sent my husband to the store for meat, he happily ran (after yesterday's dumplings with cottage cheese, he was very pleased). So we are waiting, sir. If you get something track, I'll take a picture. : girl_dough: Just in case, I already have a kilogram of cottage cheese ....
musyanya
Hard work is to pull the hippo out of the swamp ...
Today I didn’t figure out how to do everything so that there would be less marriage. Yesterday somehow it worked out with cottage cheese. And the dough and filling, and a little marriage. Today I tormented the dumpling machine all day. The dough is the same. Minced meat, onion, garlic. I turned it in a meat grinder 2 times, the third time with a blender I chopped a little brown, so that it looked like a pate, as they wrote. I did it without oil, and added oil to the minced meat. And often mixed the minced meat. And it's useless. And the dummy dough molds well, but with minced meat, dumplings with cracks, holes are obtained. I took everything apart several times, cleaned it, made the dough from different flour. And the result is almost always the same --- after the dummies there are about 20 pieces of almost normal dumplings without holes, cracks, and very quickly, and then, bang and cracked, equal ones fall out. I looked at everything, changed something in the dough with more flour, then on the contrary the dough is softer and still pacifiers, then good ones, then again marriage. I made a lot of good ones, about 7 times to weld on our crowd, and I will also weld defective ones. If you cook carefully, the filling does not fall out from the cracked, you can eat. experiments.). There were probably 50 defective pieces, no less. There is no more space in the freezer and refrigerator. Absolutely not! I'll try the next time again with cottage cheese or potatoes. I poured gluten into the dough, and did not pour it, it was the same, by the way. I would not have made so many dumplings with my hands, definitely (those that turned out). But how to deal with marriage?
Pakat
musyanya, Luda, the marriage is due to the fact that the pressing works too hard, a lot of filling goes, tears and twists the dough pipe.
As soon as the defective ones start to go, open the lid of the filling dispenser, mix the filling in the dispenser, beat it and adjust the lower pressure of the pre-pressing. Should help ...
musyanya
Pakat, I'm going very similar to what you are describing !!!
And also, how much minced meat should look like a pate. Straight pate? Or is it three times through a meat grinder?
Adjusting a smaller pressing mode --- how is it? ... There is also a piece of iron. : - \ By beating the minced meat and raising the top disk up the thread?

Pakat
musyanya, Luda, minced meat, in consistency, should be a little thinner than pate, IMHO ...
The disc that runs along the thread is the pre-pressing. At one end, with a square, the thread rests on the lid, and the disc rests on the surface of the minced meat and the more it is pressed, the greater the pressure of the press ...
musyanya
Then the minced meat I had was thick ... And "thinner pate" it tastes awful ??? Or then it doesn't matter when you eat?
sazalexter
musyanya From my own experience, I will say that the minced meat should be finely ground, but in no case should it be liquid, otherwise the press will begin to "squeeze" and the juice from it will pour onto the tube, while the dumplings are not molded at all
In general, the minced meat should be fine but dry
Only the degree of pressing the dumpling former is regulated in the machine, these are two nuts in front.
Pakat
sazalexter, Sasha, I did not write that the minced meat should be liquid, the consistency is a little thinner than the pate.
The pressure disc is regulated, turned off 1-2 turns, it became less pressed, turned, more.
Adjustable flour dispenser, half holes, can be opened or closed.
And the screws of the knife for molding dumplings simply support the blue rubber, with which the knife is pressed against the shaft, do not allow it to move away.
matroskin_kot
There are such experiments, and I'm not at home.
sazalexter
Pakat Pavel, in my opinion, the clamping force is the same, since the plate moves along a threaded spiral with a constant pitch.
Pakat
That's right, if you do not change the consistency of the filling, after mixing and whipping, the density decreases, the pressure also ...
Pakat
Try it, because we only want our cars to work well ...
IRR
Quote: Pakat

Try it, because we only want our cars to work well ...

Pakat, are you here with sazalexterohm about what cars?
musyanya
She promised photos.:) These are the same dumplings. Naturally, they are not very beautiful, almost shapeless, because they froze them in a thin small pile of film (there is no place for freezing dumplings on the sheet, you have to wrap them in a film and put them on top of each other in a bag. So they can freeze and do not stick together. It is easy to then frozen separate from each other).
Machine for making dumplings, ravioli
Machine for making dumplings, ravioli
Machine for making dumplings, ravioli

Far from ideal, of course worse than manual sculpting, but when you want to eat homemade, and you have little free time - and such weirdos are eaten with great pleasure ...
Gaby
Musyanya, why are you nitpicking - such beautiful dumplings and most importantly, that it would be convenient and quick for you to make them and the family was well fed. In my opinion, these are the main criteria for a hostess, especially with your workload.
Black_cat
musyanya

Indeed, what a picky one ... (I thought there was only one)

Normal dumplings, you would have seen what I blinded the last time, just by rolling them into a tape and cutting them off with a knife
But two or three pieces - and half a day is full
Pakat
Black_catso you got it khanum turned out, not dumplings ...
Black_cat
Quote: Pakat

Black_catso you got it khanum turned out, not dumplings ...

: wow: and I called them "cheburyats"

I am completely illiterate, you see, in Eastern-global culinary

But fast, clean and satisfying !!!
kruglii
Quote: matroskin_kot

Yeah... . But, the Chinese - they are cunning - they rivet new ones
Since we don't make dumplings ... it's hot, there's nowhere to store
How successes in modeling, liu - di !!!
The seller alone traded them all over China
With dumplings, everything is buzzing, recently they put on a month in advance and a bunch of dumplings with potatoes ... we now have pickles
Pakat
kruglii, early to panic, on the angelic site, still - Total for 1ST payment: $ 24.43, rest forwarding ...
And in Chinese, the same 110 yuan ...
And on the alibab - crooks ...
kruglii
Quote: Pakat

I see 10 pieces there, where is 0
Poke my nose where you saw 10pcs
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kruglii
Quote: Pakat

kruglii, you have to know how to use a translator ...
30 Day Sale: 0 (0 existing comments)
Well, where are 10 pieces written?
kruglii
Quote: Pakat


Answer # 786 - 收藏 该 品 (10 人) look at the translator ...
This phrase 收藏 该 品 (10) Google translates me as a collection of goods (10)
And no more
kruglii
Quote: Pakat

A nice girl wants to make money, the price is higher, the commission is higher ...
It looks like the alibaba is trying to buy cars and sell them for more ...
And yet she was right. This word that you wrote as having 10 items turns out to be 10 customer reviews.
If you click on the question mark marked by me with a red arrow, you will understand why the product is out of stock.
Machine for making dumplings, ravioli
No, you did not understand about her, she asked me about the typewriter and was also going to buy it. But now they are over.
Lyi
Here is my negative experience of making dumplings on a dumpling machine.
At first, we tried it on dumplings with potatoes, everything went without problems, they made about 30.
We loaded the minced meat.
Pieces 5-6 went off with a bang, and then problems, then a gap in the dough, then instead of the usual dumplings, half-size dumplings, especially tired winding the dough onto the connecting shaft over the pallet on which the flour is poured.We have to get it and all this long sausage of dough with meat goes to waste.
It seems like I read earlier that you need to tweak something somewhere. I look forward to advice.
We spent 1 kg of dough, there was still a lot of minced meat, but the son said that it would be enough to scoff at the products. 80% of the so-called dumplings went to waste.
I cooked the remaining 20%, but I didn't really like them either.
The dough in dumplings turns out to be thin in one place and, accordingly, is digested, in another place it is thick and therefore undercooked.
I made the dough according to the recipe in post 385, however, instead of water I made it with milk (we don't like water), but I didn't like even such a dough without eggs.
In general, the son insistently recommends giving this dumpling machine to someone.
Of course, I will try to do something else when my sister arrives (in 4 hands), but who will eat the marriage. Yes, and the toad crushes, the meat zha-a-a-lko.
kruglii
Quote: Lyi

Here is my negative experience of making dumplings on a dumpling machine.
At first we tried it on dumplings with potatoes, everything went without problems, they made about 30.
We loaded the minced meat.
Pieces 5-6 went off with a bang, and then problems, then a gap in the dough, then instead of the usual dumplings, half-size dumplings, especially tired winding the dough onto the connecting shaft over the pallet on which the flour is poured.You have to get it and all this long sausage of dough with meat goes to waste.
It seems like I read earlier that you need to tweak something somewhere. I look forward to advice.
We spent 1 kg of dough, there was still a lot of minced meat, but the son said that it would be enough to scoff at the food. 80% of the so-called dumplings went to waste.
I cooked the remaining 20%, but I didn't really like them either.
The dough in dumplings turns out to be thin in one place and, accordingly, is digested, in another place it is thick and therefore undercooked.
I made the dough according to the recipe in post 385, however, instead of water I made it with milk (we don't like water), but even this dough without eggs was not pleasant.
In general, the son insistently recommends giving this dumpling machine to someone.
Of course, I will try to do something else when my sister arrives (in 4 hands), but who will be the marriage. Yes, and the toad crushes, the meat zha-a-a-lko.
Ready to pick up if you are so upset.
From the first time, not when nothing goes wrong.
It would be high time to understand this truth.
My expert said (that is, my wife) in no case should the dough be made with milk for dumplings. Good luck.
Lyi
Quote: kruglii

Ready to pick up if you are so upset.
From the first time, not when nothing goes wrong.
It would be high time to understand this truth.
My expert said (that is, my wife) in no case should the dough be made with milk for dumplings. Good luck.
Nobody eats the dough on the water (even for me it tastes bad), especially since everything turned out fine in dumplings with potatoes with my dough. Even just on milk without eggs, and then the son turns his nose up and says that it is tasteless.
I will not sell, I have someone to give. Or I'll leave it only for dumplings with potatoes.
You need specific advice, maybe you need to twist something or rotate the handle without stopping, or something else.
Why from time to time the dough is wound up in the interval to the tray, on which flour is poured, after which all the outrageous things begin?
matroskin_kot
Lyi, Lyudochka! OUCH !!! Packat wrote that after 10-20 dumplings, open the minced meat tank, unscrew the nut a couple of turns up, then the minced meat and dough are friends. I just stuck dumplings with potatoes and liver .. I made the dough with eggs, let it lie down, began to sculpt - the dough does not break, but it twists, cheering the filling did not help much - 3 dumplings came out torn, after that my husband took off the silicone insert altogether - and I sprinkled flour with a spoon, like an excavator. Everything is great! The dumplings are wonderful, but the second person, that is, me, catches them at the exit so that they don't stick. The point is probably in the filling - very dense potatoes + liver, but the dough did not break
Lyi, train on cats, on dumplings with potatoes ... Not so sorry - once, even if there is a small hole - it is not so visible - two, well, it's easier to sculpt - three ... And instead of the usual - add milk powder ... And yet - I I kneaded the dough for a long time, and then it lay down, I tried "dough sausage" - to break, pulled, at first - it broke quickly, then, lay down - it became elastic, well, my husband was free - well, I put dinner on myself ...
Pakat
Lyi and all, I will write the features of the machine, in my opinion:
1. The dough needs good flour, with enough gluten, I add it to improve the dough.
2. The dough should be tight, elastic and not sticky.
3. The filling should be slightly fluid and well beaten, pass the meat twice through a fine wire rack. The meat filling is heavily pressed, loses its fluidity and airiness, inflates the dough tube, the dough touches the flour dispenser, twists and breaks. Open the minced meat dispenser, mix the minced meat with a spoon, beat and turn the press back by 2-3 turns.
4.The dough is wound on the cut-off shaft, if the flour dispenser does not work well, the holes are adjusted there, they have opened more, more flour pours and does not stick.
And constantly pour flour into the dispenser so that he sprinkles it on the shaft.
5. To remove the dumplings there is a conveyor, you don't need to catch them, just move the links from front to back.
For now, I'll answer specific questions, if I can ...
Other owners of cars will also connect, maybe they will give more advice ...
Scarecrow
Because of all these "subtleties" of making dumplings in the machine, which you are discussing, I finally got sick of it, although I didn't really want it before.

How my husband and I masterfully play them together on an ordinary Soviet dumpling maker. A lovely sight.
Black_cat
Quote: matroskin_kot

... And yet, I kneaded the dough for a long time, and then it lay down, I tried "dough sausage" - to break, pulled, at first - it broke quickly, then, lay down - it became elastic, well, my husband was free - well, he made dinner for himself ...

In general, if the dough just lies in a film or plastic bag for a couple of hours in the refrigerator, it becomes very elastic
Lyi
Irochka-Kitty, Pakat, thanks for your advice!
Of course I will train on dumplings with potatoes.
Ira, you made me happy that this machine lets the dough and eggs pass.
Pakat, IMHO, it is in point 4 in your list that we have a snag. I went and looked at my machine, I can't figure out how it can be adjusted. For more details, please describe where and how you need to poke or twirl to adjust the holes. :) And then, it turned out that it was impossible to stop the machine as soon as they stopped turning the handle, so then start cleaning everything over again, throwing away everything that was and turning it again.
With minced meat we will try to do everything according to your advice.
The rest of the conditions on your list seem to be met.
Lyi
Quote: matroskin_kot

after that, the husband removed the silicone insert altogether
Irochka poke, pliz, finger what kind of silicone insert we are talking about (preferably in the photo of this machine.
Pakat
Lyi, kote removed the flour dispenser, which is what is mentioned in point 4.
If you turn it over, then there are two plates at the bottom that open and close the holes for flour. There are also arrows drawn, the arrow opens, closes against. The dispenser must be correctly inserted, exactly centered and rotated, otherwise the dough pipe will touch the silicone plates and twist. Flour from the flakes surrounds the outside of the dough tube and prevents it from sticking to the cut shaft.
Yes, before starting work, you need to shape the pipe and carefully fill it with filling, this will exclude empty dumplings at the beginning of work.
I already wrote about this, but a reminder will not hurt ...
matroskin_kot
Not the entire dispenser was removed, but only the middle - a flexible plate ... uyu with petals ...
Machine for making dumplings, ravioli
Pakat
Paavtaryu - The dispenser must be correctly inserted, exactly in the center and rotated, otherwise the dough pipe will touch the silicone plates and twist. Flour from the flakes surrounds the outside of the dough tube and prevents it from sticking to the cut shaft.

Removing the plates allows the flour to wake up down without enveloping the dough pipe, sticking to the cutting knife and the shaft occurs ...
matroskin_kot
So I say that before, I stood with this disc, and yesterday, it began to winkle out, the filling was probably a little taut ... So they took it off ... And so it always stands in place ... but to check the new, you need to empty the freezer ... and sculpt ... Well, yesterday there were only 3 or 4 defective ones ...
Lyi
Pakat, Irochka!
Just about, they seem to have stumbled upon exactly where the dog is buried.
When we started to break and twist the dough, we pulled out and inserted this thing without looking at this dispenser, (less, more) and it is quite possible that this was the reason (and maybe where else?)
Thanks for the tips. I will try again.
matroskin_kot
This is it!!! How much it weighs, I don't remember, but something about 7 kg ... It cost $ 138 with delivery to Russia.
Black_cat
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Girls, I reread the whole Temka from the very beginning, I already choked with saliva
I came to the conclusion that it is better to take not a plastic, but an iron unit. Now the question is: is he ???
Machine for making dumplings, ravioli
Who has such a miracle, how much does it weigh in the package? Someone ordered to Ukraine? How much did the delivery cost?

How much it weighs and how much it cost - I described it all in detail.
In my opinion, this unit is more comfortable than plastic, there is practically no marriage!

(I fell into the category of girls
Lyi
Quote: Pakat

4. The dough is wound on the cut-off shaft, if the flour dispenser does not work well, the holes are adjusted there, they are more open, more flour is poured and does not stick.
And constantly pour flour into the dispenser so that he sprinkles it on the shaft.
For now, I'll answer specific questions, if I can ...
Pakat, but I do not have this flour dispenser, is it not provided by nature, or is it missing as an "extra" part?
This is how it looks like for me
view from above
Machine for making dumplings, ravioli
bottom view
Machine for making dumplings, ravioli
Did they forget to put this insert or I have another modification?
Thank God I didn't have time to throw away the box or the wrapping paper. I reviewed and shook everything, suddenly where it fell, although the whole dumpling machine in my package was assembled, only the sled went separately.
And what should I do now?
Send me, pliz, a photo of this silicone insert and the underside of this entire sleeve (I don't know how to call it correctly) with the dispenser (insert) removed, so that when I send a request to the manager, he will understand what I am asking about.
matroskin_kot
Lyuda, maybe you have a different "style" of this thing ... It is conical, and flour, probably, is pouring along the entire height ... Maybe you don't need that membrane ...

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