Trishka
Girls, everyone with new clothes, let the devices only please and facilitate our work.

And I also came hvastatsa, I got the First FA-5259-2, so they brought it home, it's warming up ...
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Mila56
Quote: Bijou
Which is over 6800
What is this?
Peter Push
OhiAh and Sister, Bijou, Trishka! With new assistants you! Let them only please and work properly!

OhiAh, looked at the review of Khlebnikova and others, a beautiful mixer, and most importantly the nozzles are of high quality (without knots and pits, even), I especially liked the whisk - the twigs are attached to the metal, it is more reliable than in Klatronic / Boman.

Bijou, and Bosik 4 or 5 series? Write how you work with a meat grinder.

Trishka, we are waiting for reports from the scene.
Trishka
Quote: Peter Push
reports from the scene.
Bijou
Quote: Mila56
What is this?
Like this:

Quote: Peter Push
Write how you work with a meat grinder.
Quote: Bijou
The rest was not checked

This daughter bought herself for trial. The mincer is tiny, even the grill is only one, which is ordinary. My Brown is just a monster next to her.))
Since Boshik is packed back in the box and, most likely, will go to another kitchen, it is far from the fact that I will soon have to check everything myself. People describe the grinder in many different ways - from pleasure to rejection. But maybe you can just sharpen the knives?
Smile
Quote: Trishka
I got First FA-5259-2
Congratulations, Ksyusha, I also recently got one for biscuits and cream, I liked how it beats
Marpl
The Bosch MUM 4855 harvester bought Bijou now at a stock price of 6796 rubles.

OhiAh
Quote: SoNika
Nina, congratulations
Thank you. : drinks_milk: I am very happy with the purchase. And by saving a significant amount of money. Hope the machine will last for a long time. Many, many years. Like my Soviet devices.




Quote: Peter Push
OhiAh and Sister, Bijou, Trishka! With new assistants you! Let them only please and work properly!
Thank you. I really hope for good work.




Quote: Peter Push
OhiAh, I looked at the review of Khlebnikova and others, a beautiful mixer, and most importantly, the nozzles are of high quality (without knots and pits, even), I especially liked the whisk - the twigs are attached to the metal, it is more reliable than in Klatronic / Boman.
Yes, that's right. It is a pity that there is no protective cover. Sometimes drops pop out and sit on the body. There is nothing wrong with that. I wrap it with cling film if that
Svetlana777
Girls, I join in the congratulations, let the assistants only please you. ((And although I no longer need anything, but I follow the Temko ... I look at the First FA-5259-2, I really like the design ... the idea of ​​buying a village,
Quote: OhiAh
It is a pity that there is no protective cover.
the film is understandable, but sometimes it is necessary to add during work ... in short, if apart from the film I come up with something in line for an idea.
(I have a Kitchen classic, I bought it from the Germans for a stock, and also an infection without a lid, sometimes it just infuriates her absence .. (I tried different lids, etc.)
OhiAh
Quote: Svetlana777
the film is understandable, but sometimes it is necessary to add during work ... in short, if apart from the film I come up with something in line for an idea.
Oh, I didn't think about adding something. Yes ... We need to figure out the different options for the lids. But! you need the cover to be transparent. This is the main thing. And somehow arrange the hole for the top-up. And I'll go to the site of the repair company in Krasnoyarsk. I'll take a look there. Maybe there is something in stock. They have all sorts of things. Or you can make an order. Let's go ... I'll unsubscribe later.




I went to different sites. Found in one place for KENWOOD.
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These are the covers for Prospero models.
Manufacturer: KENWOOD
Part code: No. KW706769
Availability: on order
Original: original branded part from the Manufacturer
Price: 1700
Well, I do not. I don't need such a miracle for such money. You still need to try on to the dezhe. I'll try to walk around the households with a bowl. magicians. Maybe some kind of lid is a plate and fit in diameter. And the holes can be cut-cut .₽ You need to focus on solving this problem. Maybe there is a solution.
Beauty Girls. Help with the problem. How to close the bowl when the mixer is running. And in order to make a hole in this device for adding-topping.




Quote: Marpl
Combine Bosch MUM 4855 how I bought Bijou now for a promotion for 6796 rubles
Not a store advertisement. I want to help you save money when buying.

And on rbt dot ru today again discounts of 10%, 20%, 30% according to the promotional code. Including KENWOOD KM282 30% discount = 12 593, KENWOOD KM336 10% = 17 990. On the main page there is a link to the promotion. There is a lot to find. Unfortunately, there is no Boshik kneader-beater today.

Peter Push
Quote: Bijou
People describe the grinder in many different ways - from pleasure to rejection. But maybe you can just sharpen the knives?
Bijou, thanks for the answer. I read a lot of praise about the Boshiks of the 4th series, let it serve for a long time and please my daughter! And the discount is good! The Kenwood meat grinder is also praised and scolded, for me personally it is very nra. You can sharpen the lattice knives yourself: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=8100.740




Quote: OhiAh
It is a pity that there is no protective cover. Sometimes drops pop out and sit on the body
OhiAh, I worked with Klatronic for almost three years, it had a cover, but without a hatch, I never used it when working, there was no splash. Now I have Kenwood, a lid with a hatch, I use it only when kneading the dough, and then not from splashes, but letting the dough stand in a bowl, when I beat whites, eggs with sugar, cream - I never wear it, maybe I gradually add speed maybe that's why the spray doesn't fly. And it is probably impossible to pick up a lid from another mixer, because it is necessary that both the seat on the mixer and the lid coincide and the recess on the mixer for fixing the lid was, and the diameters of the bowl and lid were equal. Good luck!
Mila56
Quote: Svetlana777
also an infection without a cover,
Quote: OhiAh
Maybe there is a solution.
And if you measure the upper diameter of the bowl and look in those stores where plastic bowls (bowls) with lids are sold ... Search from soft and transparent plastic. Like this

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.... Or buckets are plastic, made of thin plastic (they sell paint for whitewashing ... sour cream weighed out is brought to small shops in such 5-8 liter buckets ...) So look for some kind of transparent cover made of soft plastic (it is convenient to make a cutout in it ..) from something ...
I have a lid in the kneader, but somehow I don't use it ... I knead the dough for pies, buns with flour weighing no more than 0.5 kg, I don't need a lot of dough. Even though I beat the eggs on a biscuit, then I add everything else to the same place ... Now, when the lid was open, nothing got dusty and spilled ..., but I repeat that I rarely wear the lid.
Trishka
Quote: Peter Push
Trishka, we are waiting for reports from the scene.
Girls, I invite you to a separate Temko .... I report there!

Mixer - kneader First FA-5259-2.
vatruska
Girls, what do you think about this animal? Kitchen machine ENDEVER SIGMA-27

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kirch
vatruska, Light, what an interesting one. Probably compact.
Vredin @
vatruska, Svetlana, here is a very interesting model. I have been looking for a compact inexpensive mixer for a long time. Only I don’t understand, on the right on the lid
- is this a window for adding products or is there no such window? And I did not find other pictures on the Internet ...
vatruska
Anna, the ozone review said "... gradually added sugar (1 cup)", so this is probably a food entry hole.
Very compact - yes ... but here's a glass bowl ...
Marpl
Glass parts in kitchen appliances are a big disadvantage. When my son accidentally broke the glass cover from MV Endever, I could not buy a new one anywhere. It's good that the silicone square cover from Fissman came up.And nobody is insured to break the cup by accident.
Bijou
Nucho .. Just on the topic.

I won't say that "for the first time in my life," but for the first time in recent years, my baguettes have fully opened.
On a dough mixed with a tiny, thoroughly plastic Bosch. Although for the last year and a half I have been kneading only "iron Kenwood" (with an old hook) and I practically forgot about opening, writing it off to flour and crooked handles.

Yes, I loaded a little, only 500 grams of flour (Ken kneads me 500-600 grams daily). But what a smooth and silky dough it was! And such a tiny crust in finished products.


Quote: vatruska
Girls, what do you think about this animal?
I have a bad idea of ​​the process in the event that a denser piece gets under the hook / mixer. Conventional combines have a programmed backlash for such cases - they shake their "head" (and sometimes a bowl). Users are scared, but in vain.))

And here, how are such vertical or lateral loads compensated?
Svetlenki
Quote: Bijou
On a dough, kneaded by a tiny, thoroughly plastic Bosch.

Bijou, Lena, and I believe you! Because Luda Mariana-Aga constantly weighed out big compliments to kneading dough in bosha! She has just such a "through and through plastic"

Congratulations! Let it serve for a long time!
Vredin @
Quote: vatruska
Anna, the ozone review says "... gradually added sugar (1 cup)", so this is probably a food entry hole.
Svetlana, I also want to believe that there is a hole for the introduction of products, otherwise you will suffer more with such an assistant.
Although in another review it was written: "A distinctive feature will also be the fact that this mixer has very smooth and soft speed switching, even with a strong desire it will not be possible to get dirty." So I wonder how, in principle, you can get dirty with this design?
Quote: vatruska
but here's a glass bowl ...
And I'm just delighted with the glass bowl! I have a transparent plastic bowl on my combine, so it is very convenient to watch what is happening, and here it is not even plastic, but glass, doubly good, in my inexperienced eye.
Quote: Marpl
And nobody is insured to break the cup by accident.
Agree. But somehow I imagined quite an impressive solid bowl. I have a glass salad bowl PYREX, made of impact-resistant glass, which I use just to work with the mixer. I confess, I fell several times, while still intact. I have already imagined this cup to be just as reliable.
Bijou
Svetlenki, urrraaa !!!

Again, Bijou rushed about "how to bring Kenwood to mind", because spending several thousand for a new (and self-made at the same time) hook from Ibei will not let me - I will not allow myself! (((
But I got tired of looking at the lumpy rough dough. It's just that I almost forgot what it used to be like when I mixed it by hand.
Svetlenki
Quote: Wredin @
Agree. But somehow I imagined quite an impressive solid bowl. I have a glass salad bowl PYREX, made of impact-resistant glass, which I use just to work with the mixer. I confess, I fell several times, while still intact. I have already imagined this cup to be just as reliable.

Girls!!! I also dreamed that I would be with a cool durable glass bowl for my kitchen (I was sure it would be Pyrex). A water bath and ... goodbye bowl! Very cool but NOT heat resistant. The maximum is a microwave.

Otherwise, yes, cool, light in the bowl, you can see what is happening, it is wider around the top ...
Peter Push
Quote: vatruska
Girls, what do you think about this animal? Kitchen machine ENDEVER SIGMA-27
There is a hatch in the lid. Compact. The cost is almost 7000 rubles. I would consider
Quote: Marpl
The Bosch MUM 4855 harvester bought Bijou now at a stock price of 6796 rubles.
OhiAh
In what I came up with for a protective cover. Girls, do not hit with slippers. The covers are NOT dirty. Old, not washed. I have not used them for a long time. And to throw it away, the hand does not rise. So they lie in the closet.
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Maybe someone will need it. The plastic for the microwave protective covers is soft, for the 3rd cover (from a plastic microwave saucepan) - too.But Sister and I thought and thought ... And we figured out that we could do without a cover.




Quote: Peter Push
when I beat whites, eggs with sugar, cream - I never wear it, maybe I gradually add speed, maybe that's why the spray doesn't fly. And it is probably impossible to pick up a lid from another mixer, because it is necessary that both the seat on the mixer and the lid coincide and the recess on the mixer for fixing the lid was, and the diameters of the bowl and lid were equal. Good luck!
Our summary with Sister: "You don't need any protective cover. You get tired of attaching and removing several times to add products, there are alternate additions 3 - 5 times. Scraping off the sides, and observing the whole process, the cover will interfere. Yes, and is it worth it In addition, a drop or two SUDDENLY for no reason, no reason, pop up during the kneading process. The weather is probably flying every time I turn on the mixer. Girls, thank you all for your participation and advice on the lid.
Mila56
Met an interesting crash test of dough mixers

Svetlenki
Mila56, interesting video. Thank you

Or you can upload a video from YouTube without a spoiler, through the icon in the top line (in front of Mona Lisa it is located).


Mila56
Svetlenki, Sveta, but I honestly did not read the rules of the forum. Something can be inserted, but something is not yay. We do not read the instructions painfully to our technique ... And where is the Mona Lisa icon? At the top of the page or at the bottom?
And according to the crash test ... they cut the speed there, probably at the maximum, but this is impossible. But the crash test is still indicative. Whipping one protein is also a fun video
Peter Push
Quote: Mila56
But the crash test is still indicative. Whipping one protein is also a fun video
Make a fool pray to God, he will hurt his forehead. We put cars of different class, turned on all the power and watched, laughing and cursing, knowing in advance that many for promising to get a car for free, will give likes and "smoke incense." Some kind of perversion, it's like burning food in hungry years ... And, without following the instructions, you can ditch any km - Kitchen Aid, Ankarsrum, Kenwood, Bosch, Bork, Klatronic, etc.




Quote: OhiAh
My and Sister's summary: "You don't need any protective cover. You get tired of attaching and removing several times to add products, there are alternate additions 3-5 times.
OhiAh, a wise decision. But cover # 3 is not bad in terms of proofing the dough. Let us know what and how you are doing with the mixer, your impressions. Good luck to you!
Trishka
Quote: Peter Push
without following the instructions, you can ditch any km - Kitchen Aid, Ankarsrum, Kenwu
That's right, when I told my husband about this test, he twisted it at his temple and said that it is not necessary to scoff at the technique like that, and the comparison is absolutely incorrect.
Well, maybe besides whipping the protein, it is clear that not everything is whipped, of course, but it's true, rarely when you need to whisk one protein, you can use a regular mixer, and for the sake of one, it's a pity to even get dirty!
OhiAh
Quote: Peter Push
OhiAh, a wise decision. But lid # 3 is not bad in terms of proofing the dough. Let us know what and how you are doing with the mixer, your impressions. Good luck to you!
Thank you. That is why I do not throw away the covers. You look and come in handy for something.
Yesterday I beat 507 g (9 pcs) eggs with 253 g of sugar for 2 biscuits - 24 cm and 16 cm. To bake at a time. My sister claimed that she would overflow. I was sure that it would not splash out. It was whipped for 8 minutes. The sugar has dissolved. I painted with a whisk. The drawing holds. For every fireman she scraped off the walls with a spatula. And whipped for another 1 minute. 1.5 cm left to the edge. It did not spill over the edge It is difficult to mix flour into such a quantity of egg-sugar mass. The depth is great and the upper area is small. I was very much afraid that there would be impurities. Added flour. Stirred. poured into molds. I put the molds back to back in the oven. Baked for 40 minutes. She took it out of the oven. In a small form, one side is almost 2 cm higher than the other. Here, too, I saved electricity. Written by Robert Kengis in his book "Home-made cakes, pastries ..." (I often refer to her):
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Anchic
Duc they also beat the protein there, but the whisk was not enough to adjust the mind. After all, in expensive cars (Kenwood, Bosch, Kitchen), the whisk can be adjusted to whip one protein. But at Beaumont, it seems, the girls wrote that the instructions say that protein is needed at least 200 g (ml?) For whipping. So this test is about nothing. In the Kenwood topic, it was literally discussed recently.
Barberry38
Girls, hello everyone. I fired up to have a planetary mixer dough mixer. I chose, I chose. As a result, I came to Gastrorag QF-EF723. Again, I read it here, the girls do not speak badly about BOMANN KM 398 CB. Budget up to 15 tons. Honestly, the brain is already boiling. Help who knows what.
Ahtuba
Julia, I have Gastrorag, I am very happy with it! And the cream perfectly beats, the dough is wonderfully kneaded, the minced meat, 1 egg beats, I'm just in love with this machine! At first, I plugged my ears with cotton swabs out of habit, now it’s not too loud. More horror stories about the sound of a working kneader have been written than there actually are.
vatruska
Girls, there is an action in Ashan now - Klatronic 3647 and Bomann 1393 SV at 5599 = go ...
Barberry38
Marina, here's thanks for the answer. And that loud is not scary, I am at work for 12 hours in noise, I'm used to it. My family, it doesn't matter at all, they said, if only you were happy and made us happy
Irina F
Friends, who will advise what for yeast dough? So that you can safely knead it into 2kg of flour? Something I'm just toil and don't even know which way to look
Svetta
Irina F, IRINAWell, for 2 kg of flour, what is the total weight of the dough? Somewhere under 5 kg? The same huge bowl is needed, the kneader is no longer a household one, but a production one.
Svetlenki
Irina F, only Ankarsrum Assistent Original comes to my mind. The maximum dough weight is 5 kg - from blogs. I didn't knead that much, to be honest. We have a topic for it

Kneading dough in Ankarsrum Original
Tyetyort
Irina F, I have a vitek planetary mixer for 8 liters. Kneads 2 kg of flour perfectly. 6 kg of dough somewhere, depending on which dough. Non-everyday, problem-free.




It depends on the purpose for which to buy. If you knead once a week for about 15 minutes, then it is household, there are a lot of them, but the volume is less, if you need a professional, long-lasting device, this is a different technique. Like mine, for example.
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Mila56
Quote: Tyetyort
planetary mixer vitek 8 liters. Kneads 2 kg of flour perfectly.
Tyetyort, Tyetyort, Elena, can you tell me where to read about it? I wanted to see all the technical data and did not find anything interesting about him
Tyetyort
Mila56, on the sites of industrial equipment, at one time I generally bought on Avito ...
Girls, I'm sorry !!! convito




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Tyetyort, Elena, looked ... weight without packaging 27 kg indicate here

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Heavy ....
Tyetyort
Mila56, in reality 23. Heavy and stable, very comfortable! Stands on the windowsill, I don't carry it anywhere.
Mila56
Quote: Tyetyort
in reality 23
Tyetyort, Elena, looked at 5 liters .. Just wondering. I have a kneader, I still have enough of one, I'm just considering other more reliable options ... just in case ...
Tyetyort
Mila56, Ludmila, I have been plowing this mixer for more than 5 years, before the last new year they changed the belt. It can withstand very large loads. I knead Svettin kulich in 2 portions, knead an hour after the previous one, it works almost continuously for many hours.
Mila56
Tyetyort, Elena, yes, I already see that the aggregates are reliable. If I didn’t have a BOMANN 315 mixer, I would have looked more reliable. And then my leg is warming up (not hot, but warm and I'm scared about this) if the dough is heavy, I recently kneaded shortbread into 600-700 grams of flour, so it is thick and heavy if you stir it for a long time.
Katy
Hello! Today I sold my Klatronic, I was unhappy with several points. Now I want to buy a new mixer, choosing between Bosch MUM 4855 and Kenwood KM282. The attachments seem to be similar to them, I see that the Kenwood has more power. Are there any fundamentally important differences and advantages for which he is much more expensive than Bosch? Please help me choose.There is no extra money, I want to pay less and take Bosch, but I'm afraid to exchange an awl for soap. Will he be better than Klatronic? How is the rye dough kneaded in it? The main task is to knead the dough for bread.
Natalia K.
Quote: Katy
How is the rye dough kneaded in it?
No way. Bosch MUM 4855 will not knead rye dough. It has a power of only 600W. And if you often knead only rye dough, then it will not live long.
For Kenwood KM282 I will not say anything. Maybe someone has it. It is necessary to go to the Kenwoods topic and ask questions about it.
Svetlana777
Quote: Katy
The main task is to knead the dough for bread.
I can't say anything about those two listed, I haven't seen them in my eyes, I have a classic Kitchen and knead rye dough (in principle, I make bread only from it, if necessary) If you need a dough, go to Temka for interest https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...=515523.new;topicseen#new , ask the girls, they knead dough in it and on rye too ((I have this kneader, but I bought it for my mother, so I used it 4 times (whips whites, cream on cream is great, dough for cakes (custard and meat-eating)) kneaded in I really liked it,

in principle, if there was an extra space, I would have taken this one for myself, though now there is no such price, they took it in Meleon at a discount cost up to 3.5 tons, then after the HP raid, prices inflated sharply

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