Kneading machines

The one for 35, this aunt said that she would give for 30. I bought a nozzle from her)
And over 21 is the same as mine
And there is also for 7 thousand

For 7 thousand it's not good)))
And how is yours different from 010?

Why is he not good?)
Liz is different, I have no idea)
I'm happy with my snot, in !!!

Oh, I don't remember exactly, even in winter, when I was very much immersed in the topic, I read that these 250s, or something, fly quickly and have nothing to do with the 010/020 / etc. series (((

Wow, you and I didn't know. I look and think that they sell so cheaply. And there is a catch.

Masha, what does your aunt sell for 35? Will you give me a link?

Liz found how mine differs from 020,010
And mine is 560-08
kmc-02 there is nothing in the kit, except for 3 dough attachments. the kmc-08 comes with a meat grinder and a blender. the comparison table of models on the site will help you to understand 🔗
kmc-560 and kmc-760 differ from km-010 and km-020 only in the absence of a medium-speed socket, on which of all attachments ONLY a combine is placed, the functions of which can be easily replaced by a slicer.
When choosing between low speed slicer and high speed, choose the high speed seven disc slicer.

Masha, what does your aunt sell for 35? Will you give me a link?

Olya, on Avito in the search, type in Latin kenwood and you will be given all the offers.
M. Marina University

I only have shops crawling out ...

It is necessary to choose household appliances and write kenvaya moscow.
By the way, many are exhibited as shops. See the main thing M. University Marina

And here is option 023
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And here is 020
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But the first is more profitable)

I'm not mentally ready to pay 50 thousand for a combine
I would be over 15, well, 20 thousand and with nozzles already, even if something is easier (like 010 or 020). By the way, I still do not understand yet what is the difference between them in numbers?

Liz, he's so good that you forget about the price pretty quickly. Unlike other "our" technology, which has its own shortcomings, more precisely, features, in Kenwood everything is so well thought out, it is like a new page in a book, each time it surprises with new possibilities. A 010 from 020,, differ in the volume of the bowl (the difference is 1, 1 liter) and in the power of 100 W.

hello, let me also have my "5 kopecks" ... yesterday, when comparing combines in Mega stores, they clarified to me that in Kitchen, alas, there is a lot of plastic ... now I think, and what kenwood? (and it all started with cutting into cubes ). By the way, in the Media Markt there is a promotion, when buying 010 for 37,000r they give a harvester attachment and a cube (at a cost price of 10,000r).

hello, let me also have my "5 kopecks" ... yesterday, when comparing combines in Mega stores, they clarified to me that in Kitchen, alas, there is a lot of plastic ... now I think, and what kenwood? (and it all started with cutting into cubes ). By the way, in the Media Markt there is a promotion, when buying 010 for 37,000r they give a harvester attachment and a cube (at a cost price of 10,000r).

Well look how well you answered yourself! The more action, gifts are always pleasant: ded_m: I love my Keshik, well, I love it very much, it stands neatly on the table, and all the attachments are in the closet, it replaces so many other equipment, in fact it is worth every ruble spent for it !!!

Gifts are really good ... Yes, but what to do with KMC57008 (30,000 rubles), KM 353 (11,000 rubles), KMM770 Major Premier (27,000 rubles), KM289 (15,000 rubles), KMC57002, etc.? How to understand this now? Is it enough not to overpay? I haven't felt so stupid in a long time '

Start at the other end, not prices or model numbers, and certainly not the look.
Try to analyze what you cooked in the last couple of months, what you wanted to cook, but did not dare because of unnecessary fuss, which preparations you make in the summer, and which ones you would like, but do not do for the same reason that it is difficult to mess around, etc.
Then put in front of each dish what actions are needed for this dish: peel, cut into strips, cubes, ..., fry, beat, stir, ...
Then, against each action, there is a small device that can do this: a mixer, a meat grinder, a whisk, a juicer ...
Then see what device can combine all this in itself, and what power is needed for each of these devices
Further, everything will be rejected by itself and crystallized.
Through such reflections, Kesha 080 crystallized
And I wonder what you get?

hello, let me also have my "5 kopecks" ... yesterday, when comparing combines in Mega's stores, they clarified to me that, alas, there is a lot of plastic in Kitchen ... now I think, what kind of kenwood? (it all started with cutting ). By the way, in the Media Markt there is a promotion, when buying 010 for 37,000 rubles, they give a harvester attachment and a cube (at a cost price of 10.000 rubles).

Where does Kitchen have a lot of plastic? In the attachments? In the mixer itself, which weighs 11 kg, solid pieces of iron))). The nozzles have excellent plastic. Everything works, nothing falls apart. Plastic nozzle for pasta, where the dough is tight and squeezes it out through the holes, even the screw is plastic. But this is not the plastic from which flower pots are made))).

Olga VB, thanks for the answer. Well, as always, friends always come for advice, but how they touch themselves - kapets, I was confused. Yes, and I never really delved into this topic, I thought everything, more "helpers" are not needed (this is more so my husband inspires), but no, a long-standing curiosity woke up. By the way, I looked at Kitchen, (I saw it in Video Cookery and at Stalik Khankishiev's) even calculated the shipment from the States. But she succumbed to the "influence of sellers", saw a plastic auger in a meat grinder and doubted, and in contrast to him they praise Kenwood, and on the forum many sing out and praise him. I myself do not even try to judge, what I do not know, that .... So I turned for help in choosing a model. Maybe, based on your experience, tell me .. Of the functional, the mixer, dough mixer, shredder and shredder-cube are more interested in, and you can also blender .... Thank you.

You'd better rely on your experience ...
For example, I first of all wanted to have a good household dough mixer, a dough sheeter, a meat grinder, a cube, a multi-chopper and a few other functions that were not urgently needed, but quite convenient for our family.
Further: for example, for a meat grinder with a capacity of less than 1500 - money down the drain. And this is not enough.
Also, since I often and successfully cook in a multicooker, and sometimes it is not enough for one, the heating function seemed useful to me.
Also, since I actively use recipes from the Internet and try to cook something new every time, it is convenient if you can expand the functions of the CM with additional attachments, and not buy a new device every time. And the kitchen is not dimensionless.
This is all short, in fact, the agony of choice was long and meticulous.
And then, as from marble, everything superfluous was cut off.
Kesha has the largest selection of additional attachments, and you don't have to buy everything at once, but you can expand as needed.
He has good reviews, a lot of metal and little plastic, a well-developed customer service, etc.
The highest power in several models.
Heating - generally at one.
So I came to KM 080 (084.086).
There are, of course, disadvantages: the technique is clearly overvalued due to the promotion of the brand.
But if you can afford it, then for everyday needs the model is quite successful and, today, one of the best for my needs.
IMHO.

Galin, here probably no one will really answer you, everyone will praise their car, and in their own way they will be right. They are actually all wonderful, you better read the whole topic about kitchen machines, and the decision will come by itself, exactly what you need. I had a long way to see her, my husband was against the purchase, considering that she was not worth that much money. : girl_cray: Bought me a bread maker, she says she will help you, she certainly helps, but she doesn't cut salads, a week later I bought a new blender, with cubes, it's also a good thing, but the dream remained, he couldn't stand it, let's go bought it: girl_love : Now any cake, cake in minutes.He cuts cabbage in kilograms in seconds, winds minced meat, peels potatoes, makes ice cream, juices, macaroni, but he makes a lot of things, and everything is fine !!! You are on the right path, it remains only to feel yours

Tan, what kind of machine do you have? So I painted that I already want! and you would also have a bonus, so that it all worked as tasty as you say!

Tan, what kind of machine do you have? So I painted that I already want! and you would also be a bonus, so that it all worked as tasty as you say!

Lizonka,: friends: she will work great without me, in your skillful hands :) I have Kenwood KM010, (dear,) but it's worth its money! By the way, I have enough power and a bowl for our family. I haven’t once wished that I had bought it. It replaces so many devices, while taking up a minimum of space, new attachments periodically come out on it, so that it will be relevant for many years.

Where does Kitchen have a lot of plastic? In the attachments? In the mixer itself, which weighs 11 kg, solid pieces of iron))). The nozzles have excellent plastic. Everything works, nothing falls apart. Plastic nozzle for pasta, where the dough is tight and squeezes it out through the holes, even the screw is plastic. But this is not the plastic from which flower pots are made))).

Yes, everything is fine there. Kitchen has two weak points: the plastic gear of the engine - protective (W10112253), which breaks down when the engine suddenly jams and the blender clutch (9704230). Kenwood has a belt, in case of jamming it breaks or jumps on the pulley.
The plus of a plastic meat grinder in Kitchen, in contrast to silumin in Kenwood, is a dishwasher. The kneading organs (whisk, paddle and hook) are much better for the chef and the major. Do not believe me, go to the store, look, touch.

Further: for example, for a meat grinder with a capacity of less than 1500 - money down the drain. And this is not enough.

Yes, it will be very difficult for Kenwood 955. Taking into account the fact that the knives from the factory are blunt for all meat grinders.

Thank you all for your response, I will go "to the shops, I will play" so to speak

Yes, everything is fine there. Kitchen has two weak points: the plastic gear of the engine - protective (W10112253), which breaks down when the engine suddenly jams and the blender clutch (9704230). Kenwood has a belt, in case of jamming it breaks or jumps on the pulley.
The plus of a plastic meat grinder in Kitchen, in contrast to silumin in Kenwood, is a dishwasher. The kneading organs (whisk, paddle and hook) are much better for the chef and the major. Do not believe me, go to the store, look, touch.

If the gear is protective, then I understand correctly that it breaks off when it gets jammed. Or the engine will burn out. The same system in many meat grinders, right? At the Bosch meat grinder, I changed such washers, by the way, 10 pieces. On Kitchen for 4 years so far, never. Pah-pah. The meat grinder and pasta attachment are often used. If the belt in Kenwood jumps over, good. If it breaks, I don’t understand why the horseradish of a radish is sweeter: buy a gear for a kitchen or a belt for a kenwood. I do not determine the kneading organs by touch))). I need to see at work. And reliability. I won't see it by groping in stores. You correctly noticed about the dishwasher. Silumin tips really turn black and smear. Kitchen's whisk, I think, is also a silumin. He also smears after PMM, as far as I remember.

And by the way, I will not praise Kitchen. As a dough mixer, he did not go to me, I use it rather as a combine. And I will not judge Kenwood. I don't have it, I didn't use it. I'm just trying to be objective. I usually give an opinion about what I have a real practical idea. Therefore, I did not even speak in defense of Kitchen, but to refute the opinion of the consultants on a specific issue, which I consider superficial. When choosing, a person should still rely on real facts. Now, if they said that Kitchen's vibration gradually leaves the hairpin holding the folding part - I would confirm. Slowly, not for one use, but leaves))).Or that he does not perceive well a small amount of food in the bowl - yes, he smears it. Or, that when kneading dough, he often winds it up, and it already fits on the heel and the spring of the hook - yes, that's why I dislike him as a kneader for a rather tough dough.

I go to production sites. At bakeries there are often both. In laboratories, naturally, not in workshops. And I see everything with my own eyes. In addition, you can read import forums, there are many interesting things. For example, type "how to repair kitchen aid" or "broken kitchen aid". You will learn a lot.

If the gear is protective, then I understand correctly that it breaks off when it gets jammed. Or the engine will burn out. The same system in many meat grinders, right?

Yes, this should be so .......... in theory and in many meat grinders. In practice, it does not always work and it just rips off the head of the mixer. Yes, yes, where your hairpin leaves. As they say on the American forums at max speed, when the upper part is jammed, it simply flies away. Silumin is a fragile thing. How much did you say he weighs?

If the belt in kenwood jumps over, good. If it breaks, I don’t understand why the horseradish of a radish is sweeter: buy a gear for kitchen or a belt for kenwood.

Easier to change. It costs less. Both are pennies of course.

I won't see it by groping in stores.

Start with weight.

Kitchen's whisk, I think, is also a silumin. He also smears after PMM, as far as I remember.

And Kenwood Jr. with the same nonsense is. It's not serious somehow.

I'm just trying to be objective. I usually give an opinion about what I have a real practical idea. Therefore, I did not even speak in defense of Kitchen, but to refute the opinion of the consultants on a specific issue, which I consider superficial. When choosing, a person must still rely on real facts.

Well .... if you please.
The same gear, new.

Broken gear

No comment



I will not write about the blender clutch, there are a lot of pictures in the net. IMHO every kitchen owner should have it in reserve, as well as gears for meat grinders and bushings for Bosch. (I also had a Bosch and always kept this bushing / plug in stock)

I will also throw a stone in Kenwood, although I have been using it for only half a year. When the flour is loaded, more than 700 g begins to crawl on the tabletop. Everything that should cut - everything was stupid like a felt boot. The meat grinder simply chewed, not a meat grinder. The blender also grinds faster and better after sharpening. With a metal case, there is no ground in the device. All this except the first is of course correctable, but the sediment remained.

[Dr.NO]

Dr.NO As a specialist, why don't Panasonic meat grinders have a "usual knot of breaking" made of plastic? And I didn't even think of sharpening knives on him ...

I go to production sites. Both are often used at bakeries. In laboratories, naturally, not in workshops. And I see everything with my own eyes. In addition, you can read import forums, there are many interesting things. For example, type "how to repair kitchen aid" or "broken kitchen aid".

I typed the same phrases for Kenwood - it gives out polomashki. This is normal. And you also need to consider how much kitsch is produced and how much kenwood is produced. Will there be a statistical problem here simply because kittens have already spread around the world ... a lot in such a history of production. I do not assert, but again I try to be objective))).

Easier to change. It costs less. Both are pennies of course.

If it's worth a penny, then I don't care. I do not know how to change either one.)))

And Kenwood Jr. with the same nonsense is. It's not serious somehow.

I went and looked - I gave the wrong information. From silumin, only a small heel. The rods are shiny (nickel plated?)

Well .... if you please.
The same gear, new.
Broken gear
No comment

Well, it seems logical that a torn off gear would be unaesthetic))). And the photo of the head off is impressive. I don't know how common such a breakdown is, but it looks cool))). I hope at least the owners did not hurt.

[Dr.No]

Dr.No, and what kind of Kenwood you have? And what else are you satisfied with and not?

[Dr.NO]

Dr.NO As a specialist, why don't Panasonic meat grinders have a "usual knot of breaking" made of plastic? And I didn't even think of sharpening knives on him ...

Panas meat grinders are one of the best in the household segment. When I bought it myself 3 years ago, I hesitated for a long time between Kenwood and Panas. One of their saber-shaped knife is worth something. By the way, I now have a chef on kenwood and at 510 (the meat grinder has moved to the dacha now) the meat grinder also has saber knives. Cut better than stock.
Now about the gear. You would need to look for an explosion-diagram for it (this drawing is called in slang in analysis). No, though. Type in Yandex "gear wheel for panasonic meat grinder", buy in reserve. It is very similar to the gear from the Kenwood grinder.
The motor can be protected in two ways: electronic and mechanical. Electronic in the household segment is not used due to its high cost. Otherwise, the device will not be competitive. Therefore, a stall assembly is used. There are also mechanical release couplings, but they are not cheap either.
Yes, and do not listen to managers in stores, read the forums before buying.

I went and looked - I gave the wrong information. From silumin, only a small heel. The rods are shiny (nickel plated?)

This is an unpleasant tendency. You will not believe, even on industrial up to 60 liters, the scapula is very often made of silumin. Break down at times. Kenwood's kMix has a silumin blade. I looked at him in the media market.

Girls, help me choose which Kesha to take? What you need is a good kneader. There is a Kenwood meat grinder with graters and cubes. I am very pleased with her.
In St. Petersburg today the opening of new Media Markets and there will be a holiday of discounts.

[Dr.No]

Dr.No, and what kind of Kenwood you have? And what else are you satisfied with and not?

I have Chef 010. Not happy with the centrifugal juicer yet. The cake could be drier. I haven't tried the berry juicer yet. It has been lying for a long time, like any cube cutter. The knives in the house are good, sharp.
A few more nozzles are coming from Germany. I ordered myself small blender cups, an ice maker (mainly because of the extra bowl), rolling out and a new whisk for macaroon (I often do it at home)

Dr.No, here we are now throwing questions at you, since you called yourself a specialist ...
Many have already written about the fact that for Kenwood it is necessary to sharpen everything that, in principle, sharpens before operation.
How to do it correctly? Is it possible by yourself or is it better to an experienced grinder?
Some people write that a few minutes of idling at high speed is enough for sharpening.
And what kind of "saber knife"?
This is not a regular for Kesha.
And where to get it and how to adapt it? And what attachments is it suitable for? For example, will it go for AT 955? And for the AT 950 A?
And how to sharpen knives in a blender?
And what other things do Kesha need to sharpen?

Girls, help me choose which Kesha to take? What you need is a good kneader. There is a Kenwood meat grinder with graters and cubes. I am very pleased with her.
In St. Petersburg today the opening of new Media Markets and there will be a holiday of discounts.

They are all good, the main thing is to look at the power you need.
570-08. Good, and 010, 020, well, all great kneaders)
But everyone has a price around 30,000)

Girls, help me choose which Kesha to take? What you need is a good kneader. There is a Kenwood meat grinder with graters and cubes. I am very pleased with her.
In St. Petersburg today the opening of new Media Markets and there will be a holiday of discounts.

If you only need a kneader, then you can generally take something easier, not show off.
For example, a dough mixer BOMANN KM 370 CB or a Profi Cook PC-KM 1004 combine or something else like that, because kneading does not require as much power as for a meat grinder.
Only then you will not need something else? ice maker, blender, juicer? And then at first they bought a meat grinder, and now they are thinking about a dough mixer. Not to think first and then buy

Some people write that a few minutes of idling at high speed is enough for sharpening.

No, this is not entirely true.

How to do it correctly? Is it possible by yourself or is it better to an experienced grinder?

I sharpen everything myself. Women are already used to being cut from kitchen knives.
First, attach the knife to the grate, look at the gap. It shouldn't be. If there are at least small ones, then you must definitely sharpen them.
I use regular sandpaper of different grain size for sharpening. With 300 grit for leveling, then 1000 and 1500. After 1500 the knife edge and grate look like a mirror. Put the skin on a flat surface (I put it on the glass) and drive the knife in a circular motion, and then the grate. The skin can be moistened. I use waterproof skin, bought in an auto parts store, 10 rubles sheet ~ 20x30 cm.
You can look in the net there, too, a bunch of craftsmen. Yandex "sharpening knives for a meat grinder".

And what kind of "saber knife"?
This is not a regular for Kesha.

Saber-shaped, its beam knives are curved like sabers. The meat is as if cut by the slide of a knife.
For Kenwood, this is not a regular one. I have never seen such large knives for 955. I think only the original is direct.

Thank you so much!
It is clear that this knife will not work for the 955. And from some other devices is there a suitable one for her?
And in general, do you think the advantages of 955 over 950 are real?
There is more metal, the diameter is larger, but the power is the same - it does not depend on the nozzle, but on the device itself.
For example, I tuned in to 955. And now I think, m. B. in vain, does it make sense? ...
And another question: You, as I understand it, adjust, modify any technique for yourself.
What interesting things can you do with the machine itself and the attachments for Kesha? For example, for KM080?

And another question: You, as I understand it, adjust, modify any technique for yourself.
What interesting things can you do with the machine itself and the attachments for Kesha? For example, for KM080?

The chief only altered the wire. I put the connector like on a redmond multicooker and a wire from it with a switch and grounding. You don't have to pull it out of the socket every time. On the 80s, there is already grounding, I asked already in their topic. I didn't do anything else.

And how to determine if there is grounding?
I have a boss 560-08

On the third contact on the plug

Well, in general, the device can use a plug. The plug is available with two and three contacts. Another thing is whether it is in the house on the landing. My house has a new three-wire wiring.

Then I also have without it)
But my husband is an electrician and everything was changed in the apartment.
But where there is no grounding, for example, in a village in some other place, it is dangerous.

new whisk for macaroon (I often do it at home)

You can read more here. What is this new whisk?

[Olga VB]

Olga VB So if everything inside is plastic, you can buy a combine cheaper, the same Bosch MUM 5XXX and a kneader and a cube, and a lot of everything, and the price is 4 times less

But my husband is an electrician and everything was changed in the apartment.
But where there is no grounding, for example, in a village in some other place, it is dangerous.

Ask him if an RCD is worth at least in the village.

Yes, I don't have a house in the village)
And everything in the apartment is as it should be)
In general, it is strange what Kenwood is doing without grounding !!!

In general, it is strange what Kenwood is doing without grounding !!!

Here I am about that.

I went and looked at Bosch Mum, also without grounding, but it's plastic.
And Kenwood is iron, but