Kneading machines

Ira, I realized that you were writing about speed, not about sound. I probably did not write it correctly. The head does not understand at all, after the night it could not fall asleep, and even the throat even begins to ache, I feel ill.
My husband just came to dinner. They argued with him about speed. He says that they are different, and I prove that the speeds are the same in all positions. I just don't know how it should work at 1 speed, at MIN and how to rotate at MAX. But yes, yesterday I scattered flour around me at 1 speed, I forgot to put the lid on right away.
The husband says that he can take it to our master, so that at least visually he can check it with instruments

I think the speeds should be different Who has planetary mixers, they will say Mixers have many speeds, dough mixers have few of them, or 4 or 6



on and then the switch that would turn with different speeds

[nila]

nila, There is no video of such metering machines on the net. search through Google .. to have an idea of ​​how it works. at first speed slowly. as the speed increases quickly. like all kneaders. he cannot work at the same speed at all positions .. I wrote to you. what if there is a good special. then take it. let him listen. look ..

Gala, for sure, did not think at all to look at YouTube. I already forgot that I myself gave you a link to how this machine works.
Although it is not very strong here and it is clear how it is played with speeds, mine is clearly too fast.
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[Nelya]

Nelya, too many problems for one kneader. I would send it back and let the seller bring it to his mind

[Nelya]

Nelya, do not even think to repair it yourself (the elimination of one symptom will pull a new one with it), send it and the sooner the better. Report the result, we are worried.

Well, the girls ... done!
I already packed it to send it back, and my husband came and said that I’ll take it all the same to our master. He called an hour later and said that he would take it ready-made!
There the traffic wire came off, if I understood correctly. The master said that it was done reliably inside, but this particular wire is very short, and it is a stretch. He barely pulled it into a socket and inserted it, glued something there. Now everything is working, the speeds are all switching from low to high. Now I will test on Air Sneakers. And then I took out an old mixer a long time ago, and there was no mood for the cake at all. I already thought that my husband would be left without a cake for his DR!
Thank you all for your experiences, advice and tips! A little later I will distribute thanks, now we urgently need to bake at least some cakes.

the motion wire came off,

Well, you see .. I told you everything correctly, that maybe this is how the contact ended. wiring .. Smart I am horrible alone .. One word, the wife of an electrician-electronics engineer .. gee-gee.
In general, all is well that ends well! With new clothes you Nel. let it serve for a long time and please!

Uraaaaa !!!!

[Nelechka]

Oh, well, how good!
I have something too brains too on one side from such experiences.
NelechkaLet the hero serve now and don't know wear and tear!
There was a pretzel.
How good it is, since everyone is good!

Well, the girls ... done!

Yes, you're my good
Anyway, I was a little right, well, not counting the rest of the crazy thoughts about the fuse, lids and empty bowls

Damn, the thought that the point is in some trifle does not leave me.

That's nice, there-pam-pam!

[Nelya]

Well, the girls ... did

Nelya, Hurrah!
We will be with

Air sneaker

[Nelya]

Nelya, Hurrah!!! Straight off your shoulders! I am very, very happy for you!

[Nelechka]

Nelechka, that's good that it ended so well! I am very glad that all the excitement ended well. Congratulations on your wonderful helper!
gawala, techie!

gawala, techie!

Whoa, me? Not. well .. in some places ..

[nila]

nila, Nelechka, I am very happy for you, this is how perfectly everything was decided, my husband gave the right advice and the master turned out to be intelligent, and most importantly - nothing serious broke ... now let the kneader bring only the most positive emotions and help you cook all sorts of goodies for a long time long!

Girls, and I, too, with dough, did not boast
I have this:


I am very glad to him, wonderful assistant, now I think how I used to do without him

dough, did not boast

Squeezed ... gee-gee ..

Yes, I didn’t pinch it, Galya, bragged in the Gazebo, but I was too lazy to go into the topic. Although I chose when, I read it. I chose it for my daughter, but she cheated and bought it for me, or rather like, for my dad at DR.

bragged in the Gazebo,

Where have I been? I haven't seen ..

Traveled, probably.

Traveled, probably.

I suppose she was running somewhere ..

Now everything is working, the speeds are all switching from low to high.

Hurrah!
One contact is not scary. The main thing is that the motor, and that everything is reliable according to the master.

Let the handsome man please with good work and long life!

[Nelya]

NelyaOh, how wonderful it all ended !!! Congratulations!!!!! And then I, too, was worried, he looks so nice ((((I even got into the Internet for information about him ... although my throes of choice ended almost a year ago. Let it work and no more quirks).

I had a free minute, so I immediately ran to the forum!
I would like to thank you again for your complicity, advice, help in my problem. And, of course, congratulations on resolving this problem! I am so glad that I managed to revive my dough mixer and I didn’t have to part with it.
By the way, the seller in the evening did not wait for me to call and report the results and my decision, he called again. Of course, he and his wife were delighted that they managed to cope. I don’t know what they were counting on when they sold it, I don’t believe that they did not know about the problems. But at least they were otherwise honest and did not refuse to take him back. The money that paid for the repair was immediately transferred to my card.
And now the first impressions of work. For me, one of the important conditions was to beat a couple of eggs, because very often I make a charlotte for 3 eggs, biscuits. And beat a few whites on a meringue. Late yesterday evening it was no longer possible to check all this, I thought to put the charlotte today, but my hands had not yet reached.
But yesterday I kneaded the dough on the Air Snickers cakes. I kneaded an excellent dough in 4-5 minutes. Then I just put it in a bowl and put it out in the cold.

Squirrels were next. But then I was stupid, I wanted to start with 2 proteins, but by inertia (and there was no time to play) I immediately mixed 6 proteins.
At first they got lost without sugar just a couple of minutes before lush standing foam. I poured sugar, a couple more minutes and fluffy clouds were ready! I thought that my mixer, with a rotating bowl, was perfect for beating the egg whites .. yeah! Such a fluffy and standing mass, and such an increase in a bowl I have never had before. At least cut with a knife !.

I'll check for 2 squirrels tonight. But what I liked about tea, I don’t know that there is such a thing in all the bowls, it’s a bulge in the center, such a high tubercle, you can see that the corolla of the squirrels will pick up.
Well, the cream ... 200 g of butter, not quite soft yet, spread over a bowl. But when I added condensed milk, the cream instantly whipped.

Well, I will already show the "peaks" on 2 cakes, the third was still in the oven

I don't know with that nozzle, I whipped the cream, and the dough too. I also slow down what speed to turn on, why what nozzle to take. It would be necessary to read the theory, but so far there is no time. In the instructions there are some tables, numbers, weights, but what for what is not clear.
The sound is certainly loud, but not nasty. He does not bother me at all, except that he shouts over the TV. And there are no neighbors behind the wall, and no little children either. So let him growl, if only he did his job!

[Nelya]

Nelya, great report! Full credit for your dough mixer! Let it work sooo long! And with the attachments you yourself will find out which one is best for you. I whipped proteins and dough with the correct attachments, and hooks for dumplings, or for rye, minced meat.

[nila]

nila, Nelya, great result! Now forget all the negative and enjoy the helper!)
We are all very happy for you

[nila]

nila, thanks for the report! Everything works out well.
What and what is better to beat will come with time.

For example, in Kenwood, girls beat squirrels with a K-shaped beater with which you beat butter. And it turns out great. And butter with a whisk, but Kenwood's whisk is very thick, not scary.

The sellers are great. Although they tried to cheat, because I don't believe they didn't know. But money for repairs is still better than a full refund. It's good that everything is fine in the end
Does Olkh have some kind of protection and penalties for sellers? Or are they just like that?

[Miranda]

Miranda, I don’t know about protection and fines for CFM, I was simply not interested. I exhibit very little there, and buy little there. But such an action is now taking place there, until the end of the year inclusive. It's Free Shipping. The seller issues free shipping for his product, and the buyer, when choosing a product, presses this button. Then, through your bank, the amount is transferred to the CFM, the seller will receive it only when the buyer checks the goods at the post office and confirms the purchase. If the product does not fit, then the money is returned instantly back to the buyer's card.
This is how it happened for the first time, when they brought me a music center instead of my dough mixer. I refused and my money was returned immediately.
I would never have thought that whites can be whipped with a beater! And why, if the whisk beats well? But you have to try. But, of course, if you whisk the butter with a whisk, it may not be smeared on a bowl. But my butter was not completely thawed out, I had no strength to wait, and I didn't want to put it in the micra. So I would be afraid with a whisk, although it also looks impressive.

No, girls, there is no protection and fines. Every purchase is like a roulette.

Nowadays such a tape measure is everywhere. Even when buying in a store, it is not a fact that they will take the goods. They will make repairs and thousands of examinations, especially in the curvature

[Nelya]

NelyaWonderful result of the Assistant's work, very oada for you (because she herself cracked into your toy ... today I made dough on my Kitchen, flour in all directions remembered your handsome man ... the lid on the bowl means a lot ... serves for a long time and only pleases with its work

the seller will receive it only when the buyer checks the goods at the post office and confirms the purchase

Taki Aliexpress option.
I think that because of this it is more or less normal, and so is the roulette. And we Avito (flea market) - even that roulette + a lot of scammers.

And why, if the whisk beats well?

And too lazy to knock out of the whisk, so beat with a bitter. The result is no different.

In more expensive models there is a flexi nozzle - beater with silicone / rubber ends, they pick up like a spatula along the walls. They are convenient for whipping butter.

[Miranda]

Nelya, a wonderful report! Full credit for your dough mixer! Let it work sooo long!

I fully support the speaker!

Does Olkh have some kind of protection and penalties for sellers? Or are they just like that?

Miranda, there is only one protection - a warning from the site, first the product, its inspection, and then pay money, and the fines, how can you figure it out, he only tells the mobile phone number, the name, the city - that's all. I also took my Kesha to OLH, my wife did not like the surprise, but there were no 770 in stores. It's okay for now.I also bought a flexi, a stainless steel cache, a food processor and an ice cream maker at OLH (these two nozzles were from Europe and were sold at democratic prices), all the sellers then called back about a week later and wondered if everything was fine. But I bought a reinforced whisk in a company one in Kiev, they sent me without a second pin (the one with a ringlet), I took the nozzle, a spare pin seemed to be useless, but for the sake of order I called and asked, they answered and were not there.

because I cracked myself into your toy ... today I made dough on my Kitchen, flour in all directions

Svetlana777, start kneading at the lowest speed, stir all the ingredients, and then knead, at the speed recommended by the instructions.

In the instructions there are some tables, numbers, weights, but what for what is not clear.

nilaeven without knowing the language, you will figure it out in a calm state of mind. Most likely there are recommendations on how much flour you can take to the maximum, at what speed and how many minutes to work. I wish you success!!!

still that roulette + a lot of scammers.

We also have enough fraudsters, they think over such machinations. The same free shipping excelled, with all the appearance of safety. But there is more NP to blame. The buyer bought an iPhone for 9 thousand on OLH, and in stores they were 12 thousand. I ordered free delivery, and from Kiev to Kiev, while waiting for a text message about the arrival of the goods in the post office, he received a text message that the goods were received and the money from the card went to the seller. I ran to the post office to sort it out, and they told him that they gave the phone not according to the passport, but according to the client's card. Moreover, according to the barcode from the phone. There is only one video of someone else picking up the phone at the post office. I wrote a claim, and the NP returned the money to him.

too lazy to knock out of the whisk, so beat with a bitter

And it's true! Yesterday, even with a spoon, climb inside, the squirrel got up with a stake and can't get it! We must try to shoot down with a shovel.
Flexy met the nozzle on him. Amazon, I wish I could buy it. But they don't send it to Ukraine. And how to understand whether it will suit my model.
There is a nest in my front of the case, which means you can connect which attachments, but which ones, although I have a meat grinder separately, a dough sheeter and a noodle cutter are also separately available. It seems that more is not necessary. A blender could be bribed, but there is no nest for a blender.

in a calm state of mind you will understand.

Yes, now, with these holidays and my husband's birthday, I didn't really look at the instructions, then on freedom it is possible to translate the main things through online translation. Or even read the instructions for the same Gastrorag.
Charlotte for 3 eggs turned out great Why exactly 3? Because before I used to bake charlotte in a cartoon, but now I bake in Princesk, much faster. Before min 20, the mixer drove that eggs with sugar to white, and today even 3 apples did not have time to cut. The dough is ready in 5 minutes.
Girls, how much dough should you knead for bread? I'm used to kneading in HP for at least half an hour, but here you can't run the test mix. Today I hovered for about 10 minutes and turned it off.

[nila]

How much dough should you knead for bread?

nila, HP kneads with breaks, rests, here it is different. First, the liquid, if the eggs, sugar, yeast are alive in the recipe, then they must be loosened in the liquid, then flour (if the yeast is dry, then put it on top) and make a preliminary kneading at the lowest speed. Its purpose is to mix the ingredients. Then we turn off the kneader and pause for 15 - 30 minutes, and then we make the main batch - 8 - 15 minutes. 1 or a little more speed (this is if a smooth transition or at the one indicated in the instructions) until we get the desired result. Correctly kneaded dough will gather in a ball (bun) around the hook and it will clean the sides of the bowl. It is better to add salt and fat at the end of the batch, and take the liquid from the refrigerator, the kneaders heat the dough a lot, and this is not good for it. Take a look here 🔗, the brand of the kneader does not really matter, the result depends not only on it, but by and large, on our manipulations.
And there is a mound on the bottom of the bowl in every dough mixer.

[Nataliya]

Nataliya, thanks for the helpful recommendations, I will know. I'll read the link later, now there is no time.
In fact, that's what I did. She only poured salt into the flour, and did not pause. A good advice about pause!
I kneaded right away, in about 4 minutes I picked up all the flour, I chatted it a little more, added oil, then turned it off and put it on.

[nila]

I kneaded right away, in about 4 minutes I picked up all the flour, I chatted it a little more, added oil, then turned it off and put it on.

nila , are you satisfied with the result? For me, this is 4 - 5 minutes. not enough for kneading the dough, the selection of all the flour is just mixing the ingredients, but we need to knead the dough until the gluten develops well, which means to bring the dough to a state where it not only does not "smear", but also becomes smooth and gathers into a lump. Although, if it suited you for 3 hours (with several crunches), then you got the development of gluten without mechanical intervention due to time, gluten developed normally from time to time, not having a kneader at hand is a good way to get the dough you need. Nelya, and what moisture is the dough, for different and kneading speed are different.

[Nataliya]

Nataliya, I was pleased with the result, although I put in a little less yeast, less dose. It was just that there was not enough yeast in the bag, and I forgot to buy new ones. She kneaded the dough with a hook until smooth, it had already gathered into a lump and picked up all the flour.
It just seemed to me that everything happened very quickly.
Not 3 hours came up, but more than 2 hours for sure. But I don't know what to say about humidity. This composition was - water 280 ml, vegetable oil 2.5 tablespoons, wheat flour 450 g, semolina 50 g,
Until she was kneading the bread dough, he had not yet finished eating. But I will take into account all the advice for the future. They were very useful to me!
My husband today offered to remove my HP Kenwood from the windowsill. She says that now I don't need her!

[nila]

But I don't know what to say about humidity.

nila, the moisture content of the dough means the weight of water, expressed as a percentage of the weight of flour. The flour weight is always 100%. For example: flour 500g, water 300g, dough 60%. The moisture content of the dough immediately gives an idea of ​​what kind of dough it is - how it will behave and what kind of bread will turn out from it. It was not by chance that I took the figure of 60% humidity as an example. For wheat bread made from domestic flour, this is the golden mean. The dough made from 500 g of flour and 300 g of water will be easily kneaded and will not be steep or moist, but optimal. Bread from such a dough can be baked not only in the oven, but also in a bread maker, which is much more sensitive to water content.
52-58% moisture is a very tough dough. Common wheat bread has a moisture content of 60-64%. Above 70% is a very moist dough. There will be questions, do not hesitate. Good luck!

[Larssevsk]

Girls, Larssevsk, marlanca, Marpl, Helen, Clara Tell me, how do you like First FA-5259-2 over time? Doesn't regret buying? As before, I am considering it for kneading minced meat for sausages and ham, as well as steep noodle dough. Maybe even for the meringue. Will it cope? Maybe the experience was?

[Irina]

Irina, I'm not an expert, because I only use it as a mixer for all sorts of different casseroles and kneading eggs for them. But regularly. I never even used hooks. He meets my needs 100%

[milka80]

milka80,
Irina, I took a KitchenAid for myself, so I sell Firsta now, but he made the meringue gorgeous ...

[milka80]

milka80,
Irina, I took a KitchenAid for myself, so I sell Firsta now, but he made the meringue gorgeous ...

And what all the same did not suit in the First?

And what all the same did not suit in First?

Techniques of completely different classes and capabilities, it seems to me not entirely correct to compare them ...

Techniques of completely different classes and capabilities, it seems to me not entirely correct to compare them ...

And I'm not asking you to compare))) What prompted the purchase of a more expensive model. I know that they are different. What is Furst not capable of having replaced him with Keechen?

[milka80]

milka80,

Which prompted the purchase of a more expensive model.

My desire to have Kitchen, the ability to use add. nozzles and naturally more possibilities ...)))

My desire to have Kitchen

this is an excellent technique! Congratulations!

Good day. I will appeal to experts and moderators. I ordered a gift in the form of a planetary mixer for my family's birthday))) Puzzled everyone, as they say. As a result, we settled on two brands - Kenwood and Bosch
In Bosch it seemed to me that the bowl was too small - 3.9 liters, for Kenwood it was 4.6.
At first I wanted to take everything together with the meat grinder, but then they decided to buy a separate meat grinder, a separate kitchen machine.
What do you think about the brands? What do you advise? Maybe someone is already using it? Because the reviews are positive on the Internet for both brands