Peter Push
Bans, yeast dough in a bowl 4.6 l - usual bread total weight 2.18 kg (flour - 1.36 kg); wet dough - 2.5 kg (flour 1.3 kg).
Quote: Bans
Kenwood KM800 - slightly second-hand from the words of the hostess "stood in the closet all the time" judging by the photo - it is. 10000
10,000 for almost no induction? And what to think here?
Ranked 1. Kenwood KM800. 2. Kenwood kvc5000t. 3. Kenwood KM636. ................... Gastrorag QF-EF723.
Miranda
Quote: Peter Push
10,000 for almost no induction? And what to think here?
No, this is not induction. Induction - KM 080

This is a discontinued model



On Kenwoodworld, only the Chinese version is available in other nats. versions are gone.

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Bans
Quote: Miranda
On Kenwoodworld, only the Chinese version has
They have a thoroughbred, the nameplate says that it was made on foggy albion.
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Miranda
Bans, before they are on nat. pages could keep archived versions for years. And now only the current models are on the main pages. But the link was given only to show how the model looks.

And what about the tips in the ads? All naked and only with a hook / whisk / k-shaped?
Bans
Miranda, Standard only.
A piece of hose was attached for some reason There, apparently, the rubber leg was deflated.
Peter Push
Quote: Miranda
No, this is not induction. Induction - KM 080
Bans, oh, misled you, sorry, good thing Miranda, put everything on the shelves, thanks to her. And what is the power of this model and is the case completely made of metal? and, if you are thinking about it, you need to inquire at the service center about the presence of legs for it.
Bans
Peter Push, 800 watts it. We'll kill the legs ourselves. Fluoroplastic + lathe + foam rubber. Metal body.
leostrog
take it and don't think. Will live forever. It would be nice to buy spare parts for it right away.
Bans
Can you determine the year of release by the serial number? From what year to what year they were released, does anyone know?

Z. Y. And how is the KM800 radically different from the KM636?
Svetlana777
Quote: Bans
And how radically KM800 differs from KM636
the second has more power (+ blender, unless of course there is a complete set,) KM 800 power is lower (the equipment is different if everything is on sale)
Peter Push
Quote: Svetlana777
the second has more power (+ blender, unless of course there is a complete set,) KM 800 power is lower (the equipment is different if everything is on sale)
KM 636 has a power of 900W, and KM 800 was originally equipped with a blender + meat grinder + whisk + hook + K-shaped.
Bans, see about KM 636 here
Light
Good day, bakers!
I was puzzled by the purchase of a planetary mixer. Better up to 6 thousand, but I'm ready to lay out up to 10-11 thousand, if a really worthwhile unit!
Needed for whipping creams and light dough. I bake often, constantly. tortured to beat with a hand mixer.
I knead the dough for bread in HP Panasonic. Although the taste comes with eating, most likely I will use the hook for the starter dough for sure.
Mandatory metal. a bowl, it is desirable to protect it, metal hooks-rims and, ideally, metal. body.
I look at Vitek 1433, but the reviews are scanty ...
in Auchan sikdki for the Kenwood Prospero KM242 food processor (11 thousand), the Clatronic KM 3647 food processor (5.3 thousand), the Bomann KM 1393 CB titan food processor (5.6 thousand)
help with the choice, good people! What are YOU using?
(I watched both Gemlux and Simbo - it's just porridge in my head !!!!! I don't know what to rush to)))))
Kenwood is a big question, since the house already has a separate meat grinder, kitchen. harvester, vegetable cutter, that is, except for the bowl, all other bells and whistles will not be in demand.

I read all the branches, reviewed all the photos, went to third-party sites for reviews ... I sat at the computer for almost 10 hours.
And ... tadam!
ordered a Bomann KM 1393 CB titan Food processor for 5600 ... everywhere the price for it is 8999 ....
hope the right choice? it's not too late to cancel the order ...
gala10
Light, Hi! Come here with Bomann KM 1393 CB titan:
Bomann KM food processor-kneaders
Share your impressions, tell us the details. I am very pleased with my Bomosha. For more than three years, I have not been disappointed even once.
Light
gala10, Thank you! I re-read this thread up and down)))
I’ll come! The main thing is to mix everything, I'm worried about it)))




Girls, I forgot to tell you, the discount on Mulinex QA500 is 11 990. Either until October 31, or until November 4 discount))) I did not figure out which promotion)))
lyuba-s
LenaHello, there is of course a unit for dumplings! Only he is not a kneader or a kitchen machine, but an MSM food processor, and then you substitute either Bosch or another company. I have a kneader and MSM Bosch. YouTube is full of videos. Dough on knives in a few seconds Since we have a national dish of dumplings, of course this is I need to buy for myself I solved this problem for myself, I bought everything separately and the kneader, and msm, and the blender
Tatiana KHS
Good day! I want to buy a dough mixer for kneading dough for dumplings, dumplings, pasties. That would be kg for 2 ready-made dough. Are there such for home use? And which ones do exist? I read the forum, but here the emphasis is on dough for baking bread. There are kneaders on Ali, did anyone buy them?
Tyetyort
Tatiana KHS, so, yesterday I found it, today I ordered it!
Foodatlas HO-2 horizontal tough dough mixer
It costs 12,500, weighs 18 kg, a bowl of 5 liters. The size is almost pocket-sized, 405x275x400 mm, it will definitely fit on the kitchen table.
Svetlenki
Quote: Tyetyort
Foodatlas HO-2

Tyetyort, Elena, got acquainted with great interest !!! Looks like a decent unit. Please, if you have time, write your impressions!
Tyetyort
Sveta, I expect the car at the beginning of December. I will definitely unsubscribe! According to the description and characteristics, there should be an impressive unit




Today I talked with Chelyabinsk, where these units are obtained from China. The specialist filled the bowl with water. It turned out 5 liters! You can knead any dough, but at the same speed. The bowl is not removable, only tilts, sealed
vdv
Hello everyone!
I choose a planetary. While the eye fell on the model
- Mixer First FA-5259
However, on the Internet, I also found this:
- Mixer STARWIND SPM5184
Moreover, it is noticeably cheaper.
Does anyone have such devices? Please give some practical feedback.
lyuba-s
Aunt
vatruska
any, yeah ... and the sight is just like the dough being torn out of the bowl ...
Niarma
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Quote: vdv
However, on the Internet, I also found this:
- Mixer STARWIND SPM5184
lyuba-s
vatruska, All combines have a rough surface inside the bowl, plastic ones even have ribs, no, it seems to me that something is wrong here, nevertheless, famous brands think over all the little things
vdv
Quote: Niarma
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Thank you! I studied reviews, but this one did not get caught.
The review is detailed, good. True, sellers surveyed, and these are people interested.
That's why I'm asking who really has such ...
And then in stores, almost all reviews sound like this:
"I finally bought it, the product is excellent, beautiful, a dream come true, 5 stars! Has not included it yet."
At least stand, at least fall ... For what five stars, if not included ???
vatruska
Dmitriy, for beauty!
Svetlenki
Quote: vdv
That's why I'm asking who really has such ...

vdv, Dmitriy, be sure to study the question about warranty services, the availability of parts for the order or in the service. Before the purchase.

Good luck!
leostrog
Look, here is a wonderful baker Sergey Kirillov talking about his new kneader - ELIANI ES10 VAR.

Svetlenki
Quote: leostrog
new kneader - ELIANI ES10 VAR.

OOOOO! Familiar kneader. A very similar design of the kneader in the video of Oleg Vozny's pizza dough. There was only a "top view", but the outlines - the hook and wand in the middle - are the same. Great car. But not for home. Vozny was kneading for 4 kg of flour ...

leostrog, Are you ripe for him? In the sense of looking closely?
leostrog
No. not ripening. but I admire objectively. It's so rare for me to "reach out" to bread. that it makes no sense to buy such a unit, and even with a small kitchen.
Svetlenki
Quote: leostrog
It is so rare for me to "reach for bread"

So for now, I also have for delicious long bread ... I bake a lot in the bread maker, of course. And the kneader is idle.
leostrog
I bake in a regular oven, but usually in a dutch oven,. and mixing Kenwood Major. But just for a long time. such, you know, three-day bread, or bread on a brew, physically, there is simply no strength or time left.
mmv
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I have a gastroragum with a volume of 6.3 liters, a meat grinder (dream) is inserted into my head and a glass blender with huge knives on top. It makes noise no louder than a hand mixer. it is more powerful than 4.5 liters. I'm soooooooo happy. And stuffs the sausage at once. All the bells and whistles included.
what model?




Hello girls, tell me which planetary mixer or together with a meat grinder to choose, is needed for marshmallows, meringue, biscuits, so that 20 proteins are whipped and 2 liters of animal cream, so that the continuous working time is large, so that you can whip a large amount, powerful, not expensive and enough for a long time, I read a mess in my head (help
lyuba-s
Why all together? A separate meat grinder should be powerful so that the bones and veins grind All biscuits and meringues can be whipped with a simple powerful mixer, and what is spent on these devices
Svetlenki
Quote: mmv
is needed for marshmallows, meringues, biscuits, so that 20 proteins are whipped and 2 liters of animal cream, so that the continuous working time is large, so that you can whip a large amount, powerful, not expensive and lasts for a long time

mmv, Marishka, judging by your specification, you already need a professional device. Search by search, Tyetyort Elena somewhere in this thread she showed a photo of her planetary kneader, gave the name. It is precisely for large volumes and long operating time.
vatruska
Sorry girls, but I could not resist .... only now my mother called me to look at a cheap PLANETARY mixer in the TV shop, the price is 3 thousand with a tail ... horror ... Gemlux took the body of the mixer itself from the planetary electrolux strip along the body), the base for the bowl and the bowl itself whistled at the manual Boshik with a swivel bowl and attachments for the cheapest hand mixer

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And all this was called a PLANETARY MIXER ...
Svetlenki
Quote: vatruska
Sorry girls, but I couldn't resist ...

vatruska, Svetlana, well, why be surprised. I already see a conspiracy theory everywhere - manufacturers really want us to spend money, big or small ... Without a detailed and long research of equipment or goods, reviews, watching videos, I have not bought anything for a long time. And then yes, judging by the description, "planetary" only letters in the name, taken from the ceiling.
Pimander
mmv, model QF-2018AL, I guess

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Rita
mmvmaybe you need one https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=527601.0#? Very cool!!! True, he is more of a kneader.
Svetlenki
RitaYou gave a link to a tapestry or painting
Rita
Sveta, you react too quickly))). Fixed already.
Pimander
Rita, he is from 39,000 !!! Better than QF-2018AL - 2.5 times cheaper, more functions.
Anchic
And he and the other 20 proteins will not be able to beat - the bowl is too small.
Pimander
Anchic, let's estimate:
The QF-2018AL has a 5.5 liter bowl.
One protein 27-30 gr. protein density 1.04, we have 28-31 ml / protein.
Whisking the whites increase in volume up to 7 times.
The addition of sugar (syrup) reduces the volume of proteins by one and a half times (1.5 times.)
20 proteins * 31 ml. = 620 ml. * 7 = 4 340 ml. = 4.34 liters. whipped proteins.
Sugar syrup about 400 ml for 4 proteins = 400 * 5 = 2 liters of syrup for 20 proteins.
When adding syrup, the volume of proteins will decrease by 1.5 times = 4.34 / 1.5 = 2.9 liters.
We have 2.9 l + 2 l = 4.9 l of cream.
4.9 liters <5.5 liters.
Conclusion: must beat. And if you consider that the protein can be less ...
vatruska
Well then, a 10 liter hemlux, isn't it?
Svetlana777
Personally, I am also of the opinion that for 20 proteins, a huge bowl is needed, the theoretical calculation is strange. I have 4 liters, I whip the whites onto a cream 150g and this is the limit, when the syrup is added, the mass becomes very dense and it sometimes tends to jump out of the bowl along the whisk, and never decreased by 1.5 times with correct whipping.Therefore, sometimes you want the bowl to be larger for such a volume of protein, and then there are as many as 20 pieces .... Of course, it will beat the proteins, but with syrup, power is needed. The prices of professional machines are certainly high, but they are also designed for such endurance and, most importantly, for a long time of use, protection from overheating, etc.
AlbinaSha
Good day! I want to share an option for a budget mixer. I bake sourdough bread, some recipes require a thorough kneading of the dough for a long time until smooth. I read a bunch of information, including on this forum. I stumbled upon information about Sinbo, reviews and video reviews are only positive, albeit a little. On black Friday in Mvideo Sinbo 2739 cost only 5500 = (and now also, in other stores 9-10 thousand). Copes with my tasks. Can work for 10 minutes without a break, rest for 30 minutes. The dough for bread has time to smoothness during this time, is not heated. Made soundly, with a timer. Overall I am very happy with the purchase🤩🤩🤩P. S. There has been no experience with other planetary mixers. I tried a minimum batch of 600 g of dough, a maximum of 2000 g, everything is fine)
Pimander
Svetlana777, my gastroragest has a protective cap over the rim and nothing runs above it, and QF-2018AL has a bowl cap. So nothing should run away.
Sugar and syrup make sure the proteins sit down. Especially live sugar. Smaller syrup, but still precipitates too. No other way.
Anchic
Pimander, I have a Bosch with a bowl of 5.5 liters. 3 squirrels in a strong foam (meringue) - half a cup. I never even tried to beat 6 proteins - they will climb out for sure. Therefore, mathematics is mathematics, and practical experience sometimes shows that something was not taken into account or an error crept in somewhere.
Pimander
Anchic, I agree, there can always be deviations. The protein is stronger, fresher - it will fall less, which means the volume will be greater. There are many other factors. And the syrup does not behave like sugar and really precipitates the mixture quite a bit.
But still, no one has yet canceled the breakdown into mixes
If a lot for one batch (whipping) can be done in two!




AlbinaSha, and here I trust my gastro-enemy. I like the way he kneads and whips.

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