Admin
Zhenya, in the next topic you asked me about the kneader ... It's up to you to choose.

But, I show you kneading dough in a Kenwood combine Kneading bread dough (wheat and wheat-rye) in a combine and manually

Whether to buy individual appliances or on the same basis, this will only show the need.
For example, at Kenwood there is a 2 liter glass mixer (I use it in the summer for preparations) ... but what if you need to prepare a whole glass of juice-smoothie-cocktail? That's right - have a small mixer.
There is a meat grinder on kenwood and strong, but when do you need to grind only 300-500 grams of minced meat? That's right - have a small grinder (I have a Zelmer)

And so on ... you can consider each device and its need
Jennie
Admin, yes, that's the problem))) Decide. Because a meat grinder is also very necessary. In general, I still have an old, manual one))) But my husband gave up, said that it was time to buy an electric one. I have a small glass and a blender separately, now I use them actively. But since I got carried away with bread and pastries, it was time to order something more serious, this one:

Undoubtedly very convenient. How to grind 1 tomato or beat 1 egg, but you definitely cannot do something serious.
I lean towards Kenwood, I watched a funny test drive, someone posted it on the forum here =))) Kenwood reviews are clearly better than Bosch. And, apparently, I will buy a meat grinder separately.




Can't add a photo. choose between a glass and a metal bowl.
glass model Kitchen machine Kenwood Chef Sense KVC5100Y
or is metal better?
SoNika
Evgeniya, oh, I fought in search of email. meat grinder, chose and bought somewhere in the closet lives, after a one-time torture, but I use a chopper or a meat grinder on a Bomann dough mixer, which I will not recommend to friends
Svetlana777
Evgeniya, I also rushed about with the choice of Kenwood or Bosch, in the end I bought a classic at KU Kitchen and now I can not imagine how I lived without it. (the price together with delivery cost 2p cheaper than ours for the promotion at that time)
Of course, our prices are not at all humane, I looked at the Kenwood Chef Sense KVC5100Y,. ((my personal opinion is that metal is more practical, of course 2 different bowls are better, but with one choice metal is more practical)
Quote: SoNika
somewhere in the closet lives, after a one-time torment,
wow, what is this brand? (((I was lucky even here, I did not choose, my husband urgently needed it and probably bought something in the store - Kenwood, and she has been with us for 12 years, has been plowing constantly)
Annutka
Evgeniya, for four years I have had a Bosch XL dough mixer, I'm not overjoyed, it kneads any dough without straining, the bowl is metal, large, and a blender is also with a large bowl for it. I took it in the minimum configuration, because there is a separate meat grinder and a separate small harvester, too, Bosch, which perfectly whips, cuts and chops everything.
SoNika
Svetlana, so my husband chose me as a gift then. There is a topic here, thanks to this device, I decided to register. Reviews about him are good, I like the author of the topic, but Kuh himself. BomannKM 379 dough combine - NO! A meat grinder is better than a powerful Redmont, you don't have to disassemble and clean as often as you work, but it is located high, you need to figure out what to substitute, the city, like in a circus. The results of processing fly in all directions (you have to cover everything with a film, or twist the meat, or hold the film?) lie on it, for fear that it will take off, on a thick dough. Liquid no problem.HP does better and does not wind the dough like it does on a hook. For me, it was an outburst of money, not a gift. But on the site people praise, they like we are all different. Although there is one + - the bowl is metal, comfortable, large. Now I'm thinking where to put it ..., remove it, sell it ...? to free up space.
Jennie
In general, the girls, while we were thinking and discussing, my husband called to see))) In the end, they ordered and bought, because the action - you buy a Kenwood car + 4 nozzles as a gift) Oh, the soul rushed to heaven Bought a kitchen machine, ordered nozzles for free - meat grinder, grater, blender and harvester))) In short, they are the most expensive, the rest was decided, if anything, then we will buy. Of the nozzles I liked the ice cream maker, but it seems to me that it’s to indulge in 2 times. And the chopper is small, but it’s inexpensive, I’ll buy it for bonuses later. I didn't quite understand the difference between a shredder and a grater. The shredder works through discs, and the grater works with round nozzles, like in a meat grinder, but the meaning is the same. In general, before the birthday will come =))) I will write a review and try. I'll tell
Svetlana777
Evgeniya, congratulations, the main thing is the flour of choice was safely and quickly resolved.
Jennie
Svetlana777, I'll tell you how to take it))) But so far the impressions are only positive.
Oh, I would choose another two years. This is my detailed husband - he will study all the reviews, read all the reviews, compare everything, spend a week, but then everyone is happy with the purchase))) I don’t have enough patience for all this = ()))))
SoNika
Evgeniya, Congratulations

My husband is sleeping and sees an ice cream maker.

Natalia K.
Quote: SoNika
My husband is sleeping and sees an ice cream maker.
Virine, 23rd just around the corner. Give your spouse an ice cream present.
Jennie
Natalia K., think?))) Who used it, tell us how this action generally takes place?
Natalia K.
Quote: Jennie
Who used it, tell us how this action generally takes place?
Evgeniya, we have a topic, read
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=66440.0
Svetlana777
Quote: SoNika
My husband is sleeping and sees an ice cream maker.
so Kenwood has an ice cream maker, according to the principle, the bowl must first be kept in the freezer. (do not throw slippers, but I think it is much cheaper to buy a separate

I use it very often, I have Travola at 1.5, I wanted to take one more because by the summer we are not spending here, but for some reason they disappeared. The ice cream is wonderful and very tasty

SoNika
Nataliya, oh, until ... he wants a good one, with a freeze.




Svetlana777, you need to look, while these are gone, in MVideo Borki for 35 thousand
Trishka
Girls, I came for advice and help!
I choose a harvester / dough mixer, I already broke my whole head, I need a device for biscuits / charlottes / yeast pies, and bread / dumplings, and whip cream / proteins ... not on an industrial scale, but for home, for a family of three. ..

I liked the First FA-5259-2, a dough mixer, I read it here in Temka, the girls have it, how did it not disappoint you?
I also liked Kitfort KT-1308-2, White planetary mixer, we don't seem to have anything about it on HP, there are already 89 positive reviews on Ozone, but can we believe them?
I understand that they are different, but which one to choose? ....

I would be glad and grateful for any help and information!
Peter Push
Trishka, look here Khlebnikova shows Kitfort KT-1308. There are messages about First FA-5259-2 on this thread, but only at the initial stage - they bought it, beat the eggs, I like everything, everything is fine.
My opinion about mixers of the middle price group is not a fountain. I have been actively using Clathronic for almost 3 years, it was the simplest one (beat, knead, mix), the trouble is that more than 10 minutes. it is not recommended to work, but I worked, I even kneaded the meat-eating cake (20-25 minutes), whipped the protein-custard cream, but this constant groping of the apparatus (was it overheating?) bothered me a lot, I work for the result, and not for a while , in the end I bought Kenwood 770, and gave Klatronic, he still works there, but very rarely. On it, I did everything that you want, except for dumplings dough (it is made with a combine in 21 seconds - https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=283291.0).And the nozzles are not adjustable and of poor quality. But we all focus on our wallets, it is not necessary to buy a premium Kenwood, it is more than enough Kenwood KVL 4100 S Chef XL (power: 1200 W, bowl capacity: 6.7 liters, number of drives - 3, complete set: K-shaped nozzle , dough hook, whisk, stepless speed control) or Kenwood KVC 3100 S Chef (power: 1000 W, bowl capacity: 4.6 l, number of drives: 3, stepless speed control, complete set: K-shaped nozzle, dough hook , whisk You can buy the necessary nozzles from time to time.
Good luck with your choice !!!
Trishka
Peter Push, Natasha, thank you for the detailed answer, but I'm afraid I won't pull Kenwood, and my husband won't understand, and so, you can still buy equipment ...
So I'm looking for both yours and ours, initially looking for a replacement for a simple, manual mixer, came to our Xn and rushed oblique to heaven, in the end I already wanted a miracle technique, so that everything would knead and beat, and at the same time my hands were free, eh ...

In the end, for a heavy dough I have a bread maker, but for liquid / biscuit and creams I have to look for something ...
Larssevsk
Quote: Trishka
for liquid / biscuit and creams
First is perfect. Even one egg beats very quickly. And it is convenient to use (for my taste). Anyway, it's not stressful to use it, and I'm still a lazy person. But I can also only compare with a hand mixer. I can't compare it with the planetary one, since I have never used it
For a tough test, I don't know, I haven't tried it. According to rumors, no ice
Trishka
Quote: Larssevsk
First is perfect. Even one egg beats very quickly
But this is great, it means small volumes, well, you can knead a charlotte for three eggs?
And yet, and the minced meat was not kneaded into cutlets, how is it coping?
Larssevsk
Ksyusha, I never even used hooks. I don't even know where they are. I have such a cool Bosch meat grinder, which turns a bowl of minced meat in 5 minutes that I didn't even think about it. Then I mix everything with my hands and do not worry, because the amount that we chop in one sitting will not fit into the bowl. And we don't eat pastries.
I often use the mixer, because I regularly make cheese cakes, casseroles and other cottage cheese pleasures.
Trishka
Yeah, of course, well, maybe from the girls who have it, they kneaded the minced meat, they will answer ...
although I now handle it too
Marpl
First 2 for my house works fine for me. Kneading the dough, posted a photo on the forum. For creams, charlottes, manniks, cakes, kneads minced meat. just need to look at the table how much time to knead. For 20 minutes, as here they boast of Kitchens and the like, he will not knead. But, for the time that is indicated, it copes. And he whips the eggs into a standing mass (Klatronic does not whip like that). In the meleon, it is for 4150 rubles.Kneading machines
Trishka
Marpl, Marish, thanks, so you are happy with it? Does he perform his functions?




And yes, if, for example, 500 grams of minced meat plus eggs, bread, onions (for cutlets) will knead, or do you need more?
Marpl
It performs its functions normally. Minced meat kneading for ham, about 1kg.
Kneading machines
For a home, a completely normal device.
Trishka
2-38 eggs, that's the scale, cool!

I am interested in the minimum volume that can be kneaded, we do not need much for three, if only dumplings / pies, yes, I cook a lot at once, but everything is small ...

Or, who cooked the cheesecakes, will they knead two packs of 200 grams each, or will they smear them on the walls?
Andreevna
Quote: Trishka
I liked the First FA-5259-2, a dough mixer, I read it here in Temka, the girls have it, how did it not disappoint you?
Ksyusha, I have one. I'm very happy so far. Sponge cake, meringue, dumplings dough (so far only Helen Tim) has been tested. Everything turned out just super. But most often I make a biscuit roll from ang-kay Angela. I have already grown so accustomed to this kneader that I carry it with me from the dacha to the dacha. : Anzhelochkin biscuit for 3 kneaded eggs, the flight is normal. Minced meat for about 700g is easy, but I haven't tried less
Trishka
Andreevna, thanks for the tip, collecting information and!
Larssevsk
Quote: Trishka
two packs of 200 grams will knead, or smear on the walls
and one will mix.And on the walls there, rubber spatulas will not smear
Trishka
Quote: Larssevsk
one will mix
Wonderful, thank you !
SoNika
Girls, I'm also now with a fest (THANK YOU, Galina!) I want to warn you that there is a skewed casting, look carefully when buying. Parts do not fit into one another. I had to undermine how they would behave when whipping, I don't know yet.
Kneading the dough for pizza and bread with rye bread, everything is perfect. Not hastily evenly. It is important for me that I can open the lid and add a touch, without putting it on or through the top hole. Flour does not fly around the house, it works smoothly without jumps like Bomann - now thick, now empty. The dough does not wrap, unless it is watery. The suction cups are strong. While I'm happy, I'm really afraid to rejoice, but I put the combine on the shelf.

Maybe I'll sell it later. Well, he is not for me, although the people here praise.

Trishka
Well, here's what you didn't like?
Immediately and on the shelf ...




Quote: SoNika
casting skew, watch carefully
Is it at the stirrers?
SoNika
Ksyusha, but they did not insert, or rather they did not snap into place, the spouse said that there was a distortion, maybe it was stored somewhere not there ... This is the only negative so far.
Marpl
And everything was fine with me. You just need to take your time, insert everything neatly, since plastic. And every time I do not pull out the rims with scrapers, without disassembling my everything, it is washed normally.
Svetlana777
Quote: Trishka
Well, here's what you didn't like?
Directly and on the shelf
Why are you worried, she put Boman on the shelf, not Fest
Trishka
Quote: Svetlana777
Boman put it on the shelf
, but it is written
Quote: SoNika
she put the combine on the shelf.
Or is it about Bomann?
SoNika
Bomann is a harvester, Fest is a test mixer ... Here, to whip to try ... a lot of sour cream, already with the deadlines and cottage cheese ... I can't eat something I can think of something ...
Larissa, what are you doing casseroles, there is no description of what for what.
Larssevsk
Nikusha, I am making this bandura from corollas and rubber blades. First, I beat the eggs at high speed, and then gradually add the rest of the ingredients at medium speed. I don't disassemble the bandura, just like that, and mine is assembled under the tap
Svetlana777
Quote: Trishka
Or is it about Bomann
, he is the most, the hostess below confirmed
Trishka
Quote: SoNika
harvester, Fest -testomes-mixer.
Now it is clear that I am the Chukchi ...
SoNika
Ksyusha, maybe I am, some are scolding me here for not being able to understand
Larissa, thanks to her I kneaded the casserole (withstood, did not fall apart!) - perfect, in my opinion
Trishka
Girls, and whoever whipped cake cream from one pack of butter and a can of condensed milk, eh?
Well, a classic so to speak

And he can create a separate Temko for this miracle machine, it seems like there is no such one, otherwise it will be lost in a common Temko ...




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some scold
Come on, we seem to be all peaceful !!!
SoNika
Ksyusha, haven't tried it yet. I need to experiment, I haven't done it for a long time, I only remember that it is necessary to introduce condensed milk into butter in three stages ...
Trishka
But, you didn't whip it in it?
SoNika
Ksyusha, nope ... I made ham, cutlets, pancakes, brownie, casserole, I thought that my son would come soon and take my mother ... but I don’t know when he will come now ...
Trishka
Dap is good, maybe it will not be lost!
SoNika
Ksyushahope ...

the younger eats little now - he is losing weight for the competition, and the older one is starving somewhere ...

OhiAh
Oh, my torment is over.

Sister and I thought, thought ... And we bought a SINBO SMX2743 mixer for a promotion in Okey for 5,640 rubles. Bowl for 4 liters (everywhere they write that 5 liters). We are satisfied with the work of the Beater-kneader. For the family, the most THAT.

The sister was conducting an experiment. Beat 2 protein with powdered sugar at speed 6. The whites were whipped so hard that the Sister barely took them out of the whisk. Got it out. Butter, bread dough, minced meat kneads perfectly. I still wanted to buy a KENWOOD car. But I didn't want to pay for the attachments I didn't need. Either a blender, or a citrus juicer, or even such a pribluda. I have many cuisines. devices from Soviet times, which work like animals. Some are 20-30 years old.(I have a manual mixer "Ros". I bought it in Kiev in 1986. It works great! But ... my hands get tired very quickly. At least give up what you started.)

And the main obstacle to buying KENWOOD was PRICE. When I bought the mixer there were no discounts in stores. Last weekend there were discounts in the RBT network (they have discounts every weekend). The KENWOOD KM282 kitchen machine cost 12,059 rubles. If you need, in addition to a mixer, a vegetable cutter (for blanks), a blender, think about this machine. If you've never owned a stand mixer, you can start with an inexpensive one. Decide whether to buy expensive. Do you need it? Will it not stand idle?

March 8 is coming soon. There will be discounts again. You don't even have to go to the store. Call, name the model. And the dispatcher will say if there is and at what price. SINBO SMX2743 without electronic board, and there is no way to set the operating time. These functions are available on the SMX2739. But I think it's not worth overpaying for the lights on the buttons 4 500 r. I don't see a particular need for a timer either. You still need to monitor the mixed products. My sister turns on her car 3-4 times a week. Either biscuit, or cream, or buns, or bread, or ham and sausage.

I rarely use the machine 1-2 times a week. There is a mixer review on YouTube. It is called "SINBO SMX 2739W Stationary Planetary Mixer ✧ Review". Take a look. Maybe it will help you with a choice ... What am I, that my Sister Very happy. My sister was just kneading the dough on a biscuit with 300 g of eggs. Timed out the time. 6 minutes, and the eggs and sugar are beaten as needed. Ask if anything ...
SoNika
Nina, congratulations
Bijou
And today we tortured our little Boshik.)) Which is over 6800. I strongly suspect that if I had it for a long time, then I might not have bought Kenwood.

To begin with, we kneaded the pizza dough with 300 grams of flour, so as not to overstrain. But it seems to me that he is quite capable of 600, if not very cool. Very nicely kneaded, by the way, much better than Kenwood (Kenwood is "old", with a not very successful hook, which winds the dough on itself, and does not knead). The rest has not been checked, but I see no reason why not to work with a beater, blender, meat grinder and shredder.))

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