Kneading machines

I wanted to shoot the whole process, but unfortunately the camera did not turn on during ..., I kneaded the dough beautiful, smooth and homogeneous, kneaded for 3 minutes, first at 2, then at 3 speeds ...

Well, actually the bread itself was baked 🍞 ....)))

Well, thank you

[marlanca]

marlanca, it seemed to me that the mixer was cursing ...

[vatruska]

vatruska,
Svetlan, well, Keshka and I have custard rye dough, too, kneads with mat ...

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Hello everyone! And mine does not swear It costs and does not rustle and does not hum But you cannot knead a little on it Smear on the walls

For those wishing to buy KM - information for thought - at the Kenwood KMM 770 Major Premier ( 🔗) is sold at a 50% discount (though yesterday it was 53%) for 21,000 rubles. Large bowl, full metal, reliable!

please tell me, if you need a unit for kneading heavy wet dough (rye, rye-wheat), then should I choose from kneaders or mixers?

[Katy]

I need a machine for kneading heavy wet dough (rye, rye-wheat), then I should choose from kneaders or mixers

Katy, from kneaders

thanks for the answer! then I will continue to ask in more detail in this thread
Issue price $ 150.
As I already wrote, you need to focus specifically on rye dough. what power should be? Another wish is a protective splash cover with an opening for adding ingredients. And you need to mix well the amount of dough from 500 grams of flour, we no longer bake at a time.



I forgot to add, I sell a bread maker and take a kneader instead of it, because I don't bake in HP, I just knead it. therefore, the new device should at least interfere better than the standard HP



Can you call such units as Clatronic KM 3610 and Eldom WRK1100 dough mixers? for some reason, we call them combines

[Katy]

Katy, now this thread is not often visited by the owners of budget equipment, they come with questions, then they buy and rarely who then tells what and how. Why am I? I do not urge you to read the whole topic, but you need to read at least 10-15 pages, this will help you find what you are looking for. Good luck and good shopping!

[Katy]

Katy, see First FA-5259-2, girls here have it. (On Ozone, there was a good discount on it in the spring, I almost hapanula myself ... In general, any combine that is positioned as a planetary combine can handle a small amount of dough, the hook kneads normally there.

brands of course need to be considered so that both in price and in power, I studied the whole topic, but I needed a mixer, I was looking for a budget one too, for a long time ... I found out that here the girls wrote about the action in German CU, and then Kenwood was the choice or Kitchen, I mean that the choice is difficult ... I bought a Kitchen classic, of course, you budget, the protective cover is not enough. but very happy. Kneading the rye dough, although it is also much thicker than it should be, it turned out very well. But I needed more for creams, etc. my daughter ... if for the test, I would have bought Bosch from the same Germans, in shape it is like First FA-5259-2, but not the budget and the truth is larger in size

I somehow prefer 5259 of the standard type, with a hook, and the blades of 5259-2 do not seem to be metal?

[Katy]

Katy, I don't know about the paddles, look at the speed, the second one is much higher. ((I find it prettier for the test, but this is everyone's business. If you like the standard view, look at the others, you did not write from where, so I don’t know if you have Auchan, there are now discounts, for example, this one, according to reviews, it’s not bad, but again you need to study Temko on them 🔗

thanks for the advice.and where in the characteristics search for information about what speed someone has higher?
I am from Belarus, there are no Auchan

[Katy]

Katy, you open the model you like and read it, if there is not all the info, then there is definitely a full description or characteristics, there is definitely speed tobish power, look at these firsts here, and not only them

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On Ozone, you can simply study the models, read reviews (it is better, of course, to read the opinion here on HP), you will find what is more acceptable for you, before buying, ask here, in any case, they will advise or respond who has such a device (there are separate Temki here on the forum I chose, for example, the model Clatronic KM 3647, Titan mixer, copied it and threw it on the HP in the search (you can erase the model, leave only the brand ... there are separate topics for Clatronic, Bomann, Kenwood, etc.) And this is just general. are also different everywhere, but the main thing is to decide what you want

[Svetlana777]

Svetlana777, Thank you! 🤗 I’ve been sitting in clathronics and boman (Temka) since yesterday, comparing it with the first 5259 (which, unlike everything else, I found many negative reviews), but the overwhelming majority of reviews are written by those who use dough mixers for testing pies or wheat yeast. but so that they write specifically - this model will stir and knead wet heavy rye dough, no ...

this model will stir and knead moist heavy rye dough, no ...

it can be read - find out only on the forum. Open separate forums (I wanted to throw it off, but I’ve already studied the clathronic, and the bomman too ...
How good a kneader is this one

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, but his price is not a budget (delivery is also not small) Here he was discussed, Lyubushka (Lukomorye) bought it.

I kneaded the dough in mine according to this recipe Khlebushek Borodinsky "Love from the first crumb" (multicooker Redmond RMS-02), given that I got a very thick dough (thicker than necessary), I kneaded it, but again I have Kitchen, I can't say about others because I didn't have it. I think if you are looking at the classic model, then power is important, the dough does not rise along the hook like in a mixer, because the attachments have protection.
Personally, I was considering buying this

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, according to reviews, (in personal correspondence) and the price was quite satisfied, but while I thought the discount was over, and then the colors were different and the price differed significantly, while I was waiting for a discount on other models.

in my own way, I can say that at that time the classic kitchens had discounts up to 40-50% in Russia, but I bought from a German website, also a grinder and a pepper mill, all for the promotion,
I added goods, keeping track of the amount of delivery ... I mean, in the end, all 3 devices with delivery cost almost half the price of one Kitchen with us at that time.

Difficult business choice, I sat for 2-3 months studied, thought, waited ... then worried about how it will come, etc. but mmm everything is fine

I think if you are looking at the classic model, then the power is important, the dough does not rise along the hook like in a mixer, because the attachments have protection

this moment is not clear. As I understand it, both combines (in which a dough attachment) and stationary mixers with a hook belong to dough mixing machines. In general, I do not catch the difference between the two. At the moment I looked after Clatronic KM 3647 (Bomann KM 1393), First FA-5259. My price is limited to $ 150, not higher Therefore, I consider only budget models. In First, the power is 1200 versus 1000 in the Klatronic, but the volume of the bowl is 6.5 liters, and I don't need more than 5. (I think the extra volume will be really superfluous and a small amount of dough in a large bowl will not be as comfortable as in a 5-liter one, am I right?)

In First, the capacity is 1200

'at what? (I specially opened it on Ozone and looked at the First FA-5259-1 with a power of 450, and at the First FA-5259-2 800 (the volume of the bowl, respectively, 4 and 5) it came up, I found another First FA-5259 it turns out they are all different ... Honestly I can't say, for me, if it's classic, then from Bommanov or Klatrosh, and if First, then not classic. Write to Galina in a personal,Kneading machines # 2194 she will tell you about First FA-5259-2 (she is responsive) or Larisa Kneading machines # 2185

(((below under the photo next to the house is a green leaf, click and ask

[Katy]

Therefore, I consider only budget models.

Katy, I will recommend you Klatronic, this is what I had 🔗... Do not be confused by the name Bomann, China produces them for Western Europe under this brand, you are from Belarus, delivery to you will not be prohibitive. My Klatronic was exactly the same, only the power was 1000, and here 1200, which would be better. He worked for me for almost 3 years, on average 2-3 times a week. Kneading wet dough on it, weighing about 1120g, from c / z flour + wheat 1c, weighing about 1300g (I don't remember exactly, into two bricks), kneading and rye-wheat and wheat-rye, weight somewhere 1400g , mixed everything well. I bake with sourdough, the algorithm is this: first, knead min 8, then a pause for 20 minutes. and kneading for 10 minutes. Meat-eating cakes were kneading on it. I often baked biscuits, the dough is many times better than after a hand mixer. Kneading minced meat. Then I bought Kenwood, and gave Klatronic in good hands, and he works there, albeit less. I bought it in Kiev, I also had a choice between First and Klatronic, but the seller advised Klatronic, and took it. Good luck to you!



Katy, and rye dough from 500 g of flour will knead playfully, because rye only needs to be mixed well, you do not need to knead it for a long time, it is harmful for him. And do not be confused by the lack of a hatch in the protective cover, Klatronic does not need it, it is very neat and does not fly out of it, I worked without it, and only put it on the proofer.

[Nataliya]

Nataliya, Natasha, so this is a link to Bomman, (just about which I wrote above and the link is the same, he is good (she wanted this herself) and what kind of Klatronic? (Although for me this handsome



Katy, Natalia correctly sent you there the site on it, if you have time, you better order from there, you will meet the finances (if you register for the first time, you will still be given 5 euros (and you need to take the code from someone else ... I don't remember the nuances)

[Svetlana777]

Svetlana777, that's exactly what I had a Clathronic 3363, only the power is less. The car is not bad, I worked a lot on it. I saved up for Kenwood 020, but I’ll just collect it, and the price went up again, in 2013 I jumped again and I took Clathronic, one might say out of grief, I didn’t expect anything worthwhile from it, I thought it would quickly fall apart, but no, it still works. But I bought a Kenwood 770 anyway. Ask why? In Klatronic there are time limits, but I worked not for time, but for the result, cake min. I kneaded for 20, was nervous, but kneaded, constantly felt it, warmed myself strongly. It bothered me.
Svetlana777, but they differ only in the inscription Klatronic (Bomann), and both inside and outside are the same. The lower parts come in different colors - red, black (I had black).

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But if it is possible to take with a lid and with a hatch, then why take without?

so take it with a lid,

what you protested (I know who it is, and this is exactly the model that Natasha and I showed,
there is a lid, but without a hatch (I just like the color, bowl, model, price ... and the lid .. mine does not have it at all,

You understand the size of the bowl is one thing, it can be large and small, and not work with a minimum amount of products, it is also important here - the shape of the bowl, whisk, etc. ... I mean that everyone has different requests ((it would seem, why beat 1 protein? but here it was needed when I made a portion of marshmallow ... it turned out that mine beats without problems.
On the protective cover, it seems to me that the second one is more convenient, and its back is also protected, ask the owners of the Bomman

[Svetlana777]

Svetlana777, and uvas on how many liters the bowl?

[Katy]

Katy, 4.8 l (almost all of them have such a volume

[Katy]

Katy , I apologize, Clathronic was Clathronic 3323, look here, here are all my posts about him https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...n=com_smf&topic=173608.60... What you need, I understood and took the liberty of recommending to you what I personally used for almost three years.Neither the lack of handles on the bowl nor the hatch in the protective cover bothered me, I always worked WITHOUT a cover and added everything and as much as I wanted. But I use proven recipes and rarely add anything. The Germans tested different KM and, among other things, they agreed that the dough is kneaded, under all equal conditions, better in a larger bowl.
Once again, I advise you to read pages 10-15 from the end of this topic. And excuse me for my advice, it is not obligatory for execution, this is just advice, and the choice is yours. Good luck!

it has now dawned on me that if the lid is not removed, but rises together with the lever, then this is very inconvenient, because you cannot climb into the bowl manually in the process in order to help with a spatula if necessary ... maybe, well, fig this lid really.
Then I announce a new topic for discussion who really needed a splash cover and in case of working with which test? So far, I only deal with bread, I suppose that I will also make biscuits there, nothing else comes to mind. and if you beat eggs, then you need a lid, probably?

, to help with a spatula if necessary ... maybe, well, fig this cover really.

you think correctly, (therefore, the second version of the cover, if anything is better, you can joke with a spatula.

and if you beat eggs, then you need a lid, probably?

pure eggs? and the lid on the fig? Moreover, the whites are not whipped at a high speed, the yolks are not sprinkled. It splashes, for me personally, when I whip cream and add milk (I make ice cream, or if the cream is liquid, not for whipping. I try to whip it, but at high speed. Then the lid would definitely not hurt me. or brains When idle, it would also not hurt to close it so that dust does not collect. .. Pancakes, liquid teso - no problem, no splashes.

Pancakes, liquid teso - no problem, no splashes.

without cover?



all covers of any type can be removed and work without them?

without cover?

so I don’t have it at all, and I didn’t have it, I wrote that my sho was sold without it at all, and it’s okay, you can do without it,

all covers of any type can be removed and work without them?

I cannot state this, because I do not know (but I think that you can

Maybe someone compared the work of Bosches with their 600 W power and clathronics / Bomans with their 1000-1200? Are they really more powerful, or does Bosch with its 600 knead heavy dough just as well? it seems that, in theory, the higher the power, the steeper, but for some reason I intuitively guess that the Boshevsk 600s are worth this thousand Bomans.

[Katy]

Katy, go to the Boshe theme. Read it and ask this question there. Perhaps someone will answer you and your questions.

[Katy]

Katy, go to the Boshe theme. Read it and ask this question there. Perhaps someone will answer you and your questions.

Katy, look on YouTube, there are many videos about Bosch 4 series, and also visit the same German site there are many offers of this series, there is a choice in the configuration, in color, and in the materials of the bowls, there are also reviews. Good luck!

Good evening!
Help from the audience is urgently needed !!!
Who knows such a dough mixer? What good can you say about him? Take? Better than him or Travola?
This one has a power of 700W, 12 speeds, a bowl of 5L

Help me make a choice !!!

There is a similar Clathronic 3647, but 1000 watts.

[Guzel62]

Guzel62, 700W - a little for a kneader

Well, professional for five kilos of test in general for 300 watts.)) Or 350?

[Guzel62]

Guzel62, consider the Clatronic KM 3323, it worked for me for almost 3 years (now it also works, but for others), the car is good for this price group. I wish you success!

Hello everybody! I will write in terms of speeds My Bosch has only 4 speeds Kneading is good, you can have 2 kg of flour, you can less But for 1 portion it will not work The only thing that strains him to wash Remove all these hooks Any dough makes Biscuits too I generally like it Made soundly, weighs 8 kg Steel on a pot and hooks are real stainless steel But we do not have them on sale for some reason To whom there is a little dough, you can take a combine with knives I make dough on it on dumplings, for me it is easier to wash it, and I like the cutter on it

Thank you all very much! I bought Travola. It was just that the purchase was for Privilege points (that is, it cost me free !!!), and there is a small selection of models. I had to take from what was. Well, I think that's enough for me!

Well, success! Then let's report



I looked, in my opinion it is a mixer

Hello! The selection is good and the reviews about Travola are good. We all live as we can, and such an assistant is just a gift.

Hello everybody! I will write in terms of speeds My Bosch has only 4 speeds Kneading is good, you can have 2 kg of flour, you can less But for 1 portion it will not work The only thing that strains him to wash Remove all these hooks Any dough makes Biscuits too I generally like it Made soundly, weighs 8 kg Steel on a pot and hooks are real stainless steel But we do not have them on sale for some reason To whom there is a little dough, you can take a combine with knives I make dough on it on dumplings, for me it is easier to wash it, and I like the cutter on it

I didn't understand something about washing!
I have Bosch mum86, red, hook one (why "all these hooks"?). What's there to wash: one hook and a bowl.
My second Bosch is msm64 (this is probably a combine with knives), so there you have to wash the bowl itself, the knife stand and the knife. And it takes longer than 86 to assemble and disassemble
Seems to have guessed: perhaps you just have a Bosch mixer, not mum?

mum 21 or 6 I don't even remember, somewhere near here is my report on this pot He is a little unusual, but good

I got interested and found a video on the Internet with his work (Mum6N21) on kneading yeast dough. I haven’t seen such a model before, it’s not a planetary one, but resembles the combines of the msm series: different nozzles are sequentially put on the axle, first 2 whisks for beating, then they are removed, they put on a plastic knife (such in msm just for kneading dough), then to it add a nozzle with metal blades and spirals. In the course of the whole case, the components of the test are sequentially added. Really worn out.
There is no such thing in planetary ones: one hook, a familiar kolobok is formed around it.

NO, I don't do that Collect it completely, pour flour and pour in the leaven and turn it on Collect and disassemble just to show that it is good



I watched how the bun was kneading with a hook and I did not like that he was crawling up the hook



by the way, I only beat the eggs with whisk, for bread these hooks

Girls, I have a sadness, my dough mixer Bork probably broke, at the lowest speed there is an impulse and the hook starts spinning faster, I don’t know whether to fix it or not, but I thought about buying a new one, I’m thinking about the dough mixer Ankarsrum combine, the main thing for me is to knead dumplings dough , of course bread and baked goods. Tell the owners how he works