lyuba-s
tell me where to buy a mill for grinding grain with stone millstones, such as a Kenwood attachment, but working separately. I found it on the Amazon, but it says that they do not send to us. Maybe I wasn't looking there
vatruska
Svetlana777, yes, I know ... especially since Kitford also sins with customized reviews ... and we will wait until the next action, especially since the girls will sing it and say what and how ... but it's interesting - someone has this Kitford and how is it at work? It seems that someone asked, but if anyone answered - I don't remember point-blank!
Svetlana777
Svetlana, I also saw a question about him, but there are no answers, the most interesting (although I don't need him already, but curiosity remains
Quote: vatruska
first we'll wait until the next action, especially since the girls will sing it and say what and how ...
let them use it, but thoroughly, (I keep it in wishlist for the type of mom, although I can say for myself, but in the village ... there I have to do everything in the summer, and accordingly I want to make my life easier even in cooking)
Mila56
Quote: vatruska
... but it’s interesting - someone has this kitford and how is it at work? It seems that someone asked, but if anyone answered - I don't remember point-blank!
I felt it in the store (I don't remember the numbers) and estimated it by weight, it was light at all, and it seemed that the bowl was small. I don’t believe that he will knead even yeast dough for more than 0.5 kg of flour without straining
And someone wrote unflattering reviews about him.
mowgli
Quote: Marpl
Today we finally got around to a new typewriter -First FA-5259-2.
show your car. On that I think. How does it work? Happy? How long have you taken it?
Marpl
Good evening Natalia. The machine is like this - First FA-5259-2, and the photo is below.
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I bought it a week ago for 5770 rubles, I really liked the video where the whites are whipped. I also succeeded and I liked how she whips up the whites, interferes with the dough (I interfered with a triple dose of manna, in which the measure was not a glass, but a 350 ml mug). Here is a photo.
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Minced meat has not yet kneaded, but when I make ham, I will post a photo. The plate of operation in different modes is posted by me above.
mowgli
ABOUT! Marina, thank you. In my opinion this is the one that I wanted to take. But I was confused by the low price. And they seemed to write that something was plastic and often broke, and then they finalized it and it seems like now no one is complaining ... Is this the right machine? I'll go on the Internet for another look
Marpl
And her price has now increased. And there are a lot of plastic parts in all models. And this whites beats better than Klatronic (they gave it to me on DR in December).
mowgli
Well, super. So I will take it in the summer.
We look forward to your impressions. I have a dough rolling, too, cheap and works great. Not complaining. What do we need? Minced meat, biscuit, dough for pies ... You don't need much ... right?
Marpl
Yes, I also think so, that for home use is quite enough.
lyuba-s
Hello! Well, I got my Bosch Mum 21N from Germany.Tried while 5 eggs-fzbil 1000v at weighs somewhere 8kg, heavyKneading machinesI wanted with a plastic bowl but took something from an iron Kneading machines




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Marpl
The photo shows the bowl and stirrer as in First FA-5259-2. I wonder what Bosch's price is?
lyuba-s
with a plastic bowl there is such a mum only number 12 and in my opinion it is larger, all the same it was necessary to buy it This one has heavy steel hooks and the pan itself is heavy Kneading machines




The price ranges from 196 to 200 eshek Saucepan liters for 6 probably




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in Euromaid this, only with a meat grinder is 2 times more expensive and plus shipment Yes, and I don’t know the meat grinder for them, it seems to me one torment, it’s better separately




I took it only for bread dough, and I turned the biscuit just a little for interest
Svetlana777
any, Congratulations!!! Let it please!
Peter Push
lyuba-s, congratulations! Let it only please and serve for a long time! Please, do a photo session of kneading bread dough.
Anchic
lyuba-s, Congratulations! Nice car!
lyuba-s
THANKS TO ALL! If it were not for you, dear members of the forum, I would never have figured out a huge number of kitchen machines! Bread a little later, for which it was taken




Kneading machines I don't know how much to lie downKneading machines so much liquid sourdough But in the process it turned out that it was necessary to put in 2 times more, about one and a half or 2 kg of flour, I also added the dough from the previous batch and flour Now it will stand for 30 minutes later again Kneading machinesCool Spun first on the first, then on the second, then on the third 5 minutes probably Pulls the same way - even did not rustle and did not flinch and does not get warm and stands rooted to the spot




900g flour on the scales - not enough in my opinion




In the process, I will, of course, select the rate Well, I showed you everything I studied European forums before ordering it - this is a real dough mixer It also comes with a blender.Powerful does not jump on the table and, despite a seemingly small saucepan, mixes a lot at once




In general, the video does not load. It also kneads 900g of flour and more. The same, I stirred the second time for another five minutes, probably the dough was kneaded. I formed the bread right on the table, without flour and without butter.




And still Everything is good - but picking out the dough from there is somehow unusual, the pin sticks out and you need to have a scraper for the dough and wash it too




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Kneading machines in the context of mine said this bread is softer




I have reported everything!




rolls - dough of 900gr and one 700gr and there are still one and a half rolls left, I sent it to the refrigerator I only have 4 rolls in the oven
Peter Push
Oh, what bread !!! You are a master, Lyuba! And the kneader kneads well! Well, here's a confirmation - if you suffer for a long time, something will work out! Lyuba, let me give you some advice - first combine all the ingredients so that they mix and give 20-30 minutes of rest (this pause is called autolysis), and then knead. Well, since you are a fermentor, I will recommend you "Iziumkin's Favorite Bread" and "Whole Grain Shaped Bread from Susli", google it, this is all here, at KhP. Right here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...tion=com_smf&topic=9229.0 and so https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...ion=com_smf&topic=52794.0 Good luck!
lyuba-s
Peter PushAnd I always leave it for 30-40 minutes, and I wrote. And I throw flour on my eyes My hands do not reach the recipes to look I will also write that instead of sugar I throw a spoonful of honey and yeast on hops and get fragrant bread
Mila56
Quote: Marpl
Well, I got my Bosch Mum 21N from Germany
Congratulations on your long-awaited purchase! Let it pleases for a long time.
Quote: lyuba-s
weighs about 8kg
Yes, for equipment with such a weight, a stationary place is definitely needed




Quote: lyuba-s
this bread is from 2 batches
Excellent bread. lyuba-s, and how much did this unit cost in rubles?

lyuba-s
Mila56, Thank you ! Enough space - I live in the house
Marpl
The price has already been written above - about 200 euros.
lyuba-s
and in rubles about 12, because when the euro went up sharply, in general, I was a little unlucky. While the Germans were collecting my parcel, they took another thousand or one and a half because of the more expensive rate




I liked the dough - it didn’t stick to my hands or to the countertop It didn’t work like that without flour and butter In a bread machine
Mila56
Quote: Marpl
The price has already been written above - about 200 euros.
Quote: lyuba-s
and in rubles about 12
Normal, not expensive.





Marpl, Marina, I have not forgotten the First FA-5259-2 you bought. He also sunk into the soul. Only I have nowhere (well, absolutely nowhere) to put my park of kitchen appliances, but I really want to. I look at the equipment displayed here and lick my lips. Have you tried kneading bread dough with the First FA-5259-2? How much flour does it knead well?
Marpl
Lyudmila, I haven't made bread dough in it yet, but I was kneading the dough for manna. I prepared a triple dose, where the measure was not a glass, but a glass transparent French mug for 350 g, it contains 230 g of flour, which means there was 690 g of flour, plus a triple dose of semolina and sugar.Everything was mixed perfectly. And whips whites in general perfectly. Now it stands next to Klatronic (smaller in height, but wider), I really liked the video where he whips the whites, that's why I bought it.
Svetlana777
Quote: Mila56
Normal, not expensive.
well, okay, if it weren't for 40.33 EUR for delivery, yes, plus the transfer of funds (if paypal 5 with a cop, on a card 3 with a cop, and even 4.2 for additional packaging (preferably) in the end, about 15500 comes
Ava11
lyuba-s, any, may the purchase please you and serve for a long time. Lyubochka want to ask metal hooks in the kneader? I liked it straight. I went recently and looked at the mum simple at all, the mixer in the store, well, somehow it did not hook. I am looking for a dough mixer, Kenwoods are good but the price !!! And here the functions seem to be the same and the price is reasonable. I need it for kneading bread and biscuit, muffins. What do you think can replace the planetary mixer?
lyuba-s
Ava11, hooks made of steel, heavy I whipped a biscuit on it. Protein cream on it was also made in YouTube, I have not done it yet. I wrote it out with a sber card without a drink play and not one dough mixer, everything paid off. In St. Petersburg, it costs 25 and plus a thousand 5 shipment to us by three companies, I even found out About 5 But from Germany with this money they sent me 14 kg 10 items a huge box Profitable!
Mila56
Quote: Marpl
Now stands next to Klatronic (smaller in height, but wider)
For me, the key addition is that it takes more space in the plane (in width)
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if it hadn't been for 40.33 EUR for delivery, plus the transfer of funds (if paypal is 5 with a cop, for a card 3 with a cop, and even 4.2 for additional packaging (preferably), in the end, about 15500 comes out
It's not a pity if the technique is cool. Where to go, you want to ... And when you really want to, you can !!!





Quote: Marpl
690g of flour, plus semolina and sugar, a triple dose.
Yes, the volume is good.
j @ ne
Lyuba, I'm really glad for you that the choice ended with a wonderful purchase! And the soul went to the instrument, and the bread came out - a feast for the eyes! And they did well that they chose a metal bowl, it is more reliable with your batch volume. And the order "foreign" mastered - respect!
Fishgor
And this Bosch model is Bosch MUM 6N21?
As I understand it, they took it on Ebei in Germany? If it's not difficult to tell which stores.
lyuba-s
Svetlana777, this is the problem of Sberbank with others passes
Fishgor
After kneading the bread dough on dough kneaders like Bosch N21 or First FA-5259-2 ... did you measure the dough temperature? I wonder what the limits are.
lyuba-s
Fishgor, It would never have occurred to me to measure my dough and bread at a test in warmth I never put It on me that it is colder on the batch, that on the proofer
Clara
Quote: Mila56
Have you tried kneading bread dough with the First FA-5259-2? How much flour does it knead well?

I kneaded 1 kg of flour, the process was described above. I think this is the limit
Mila56
Quote: Clara
I kneaded 1 kg of flour, the process was described above. I think this is the limit
For 1 kg of flour, this is more than enough for me.
Ava11
lyuba-s, thanks for the answer! I like this machine!
Girls please tell me there are owners of Profi Cook PC-KM 1096?
It's actually big, it says 10 liters in a bowl. Interestingly, for 500-700 grams of yeast dough, will it knead well? Or is it still for a large volume? And will he beat 4-5 eggs or just smear them on the walls ?? I am attracted by a powerful motor, still 1500 W.
There is another smaller model, but there is a lot of everything and a blender and a meat grinder, I don't need them, everything is there separately. I see no point in duplicating. I like this brand, I have been using PC-MKM 1074 for a year, I am satisfied. Of course, you can knead the dough there as well as in the thermomix, but this, as they say, is a completely different song.
vatruska
Girls who are going to take first - there is a special offer for ozone - a 20% discount, it is included in the list. Promotion for status workers!

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Svetlana777
Quote: vatruska
20% discount, it is included in the list. Promotion for status workers!
Thank you, but somehow 20% is not enough, for something they do not appreciate Statusnikov (before that the offer was cheaper ... I will wait,
lyuba-s
And I still rummaged in a box from under a Bosch and found a silicone spatula. Well at least I looked It must have been included in the kit
Svetlana777
Quote: lyuba-s
And I still rummaged in a box from under the Bosch and found a silicone spatula
Well, the Germans took care of you ... look for something else you can find interesting. ((I also had a spatula with Kitchen, though not silicone, but made of soft plastic ...
lyuba-s
Alas, nothing else seems to be




for this Bosch mill with millstones at number 7 is suitable, but in the store only 4.5 and 8 I would like to take it separately and I don't know where




just a free-standing grain and cereal mill
Peter Push
Quote: lyuba-s
just a free-standing grain and cereal mill
lyuba-s, Google "Messerschmitt hand mills" (very similar to the Kenwood mill attachment), and the electric ones are Original Salzburger. The pleasure is not cheap. Still, this is my opinion, you should have taken Kenwood and + the mill nozzle, it would have been cheaper ((((
Svetlana777
any, look at Ali, this one (I was also looking for a mill, I dug everything, but either the prices go off scale, or really doesn’t grind it. Tobish it into flour, look at the link, but ask your son to bring it, there they are much cheaper (there are up to 3 tons, only delivery dear, read the reviews

tuskarora
Girls, hello. I came to consult.
The installation is as follows: My friend - our thrush broke her arm. She asks me to tell her the kneader to knock the butter down until the hand heals, and for the test too. In addition to the kneader, she does not need anything in it. But he wants something good. What do you advise? For the price, something average.





Girls, and who can compare, what is the fundamental difference between Clathronic 3636 and 3630? I can't understand, everything seems to be similar.
Mila56
Quote: tuskarora
What is the fundamental difference between the Clathronic 3636 and the 3630?
In the first one, there is a 1.5 liter blender in the package, which is placed at the top during operation. But in the photo I saw that he has a rim, the part that is put on a plastic pin, which can lead to breakage of this part of the rim. The plastic part of the whisk can crack if it is used incorrectly. For example, if you knead a dough for a cake with a whisk, but it can be of different thicknesses, but according to the instructions, such a dough must be kneaded with a K-shaped nozzle, only not everyone follows the instructions
In the second (3630) there is no blender, but the part of the whisk about which I wrote is made of metal (pictured), which is good.
tuskarora
Thank you. I've figured it out too. Another 3636 has 8 speeds, and 3630 has 6 speeds.
lyuba-s
Hello everyone I went to the Germans now They took 50 euros and just threw 50 euros on my dough-kneading saucepan More in the course I have of course msm 64085 there dough on the dumplings But it is very feverish on the fries grater I decided not to use this grater Some imbalance appears One the side is heavier and the central forces do not work. However, maybe I have something wrong. The kneader is good. This time I played the biscuits on it properly. But for small quantities it is not suitable
lala2
Girls, who are interested, I recently bought a First FA-5259-2 kneader, made a biscuit dough, mixed about 2 kg of minced meat for cutlets 2 times, the impressions are positive, if he copes well with minced meat, then he will cope with the dough, but there is , the mounts for the corollas are plastic, it looks very unreliable.
lyuba-s
And my Bosch dough of 2 kg calmly twists and the whisks and hooks are all made of steel I am happy with my Bosch I advise everyone




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